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podcast, so good and host of ben ferguson podcast, ben ferguson himself. begin with biden family corruption, becoming increasingly difficult for democrats to ignore what is happening and just yesterday newly released bank record surrounding overseas business dealings that stem from hunter biden time on the board of that ukrainian energy company burisma and joe biden's time as vice president. the details are really shocking. according to the records, hunter biden and his dad and family business associates received more than $20 million from foreign clients, 6.5 million from ukraine and a kazakhstan business man bought hunter a

porsche and millions more. what in the world was that money being spent on. "new york post" thinks access to joe biden was for sale. the biden brand. president biden is offering first reaction to devon archer bombshell testimony from last week, the former bestie and business colleague on the board of hunter biden and the president snapped at peter doocy instead of answering the question and addressing the issue. let's watch. >> peter: there is testimony where your son's former business associate is claim claiming you were on speaker phone talking business. >> i never talked bees with anybody, i knew you would have a lousy question. >> peter: why is that a lousy question? >> because it is not true. >> peter: thank you, mr. president. >> harris: is it really a lousy question? other networks, nbc, is covering

the fact this is upon haing. why didn't he take the question? >> he did take the question and he answered it. >> harris: why insult him? >> jessica: he welcomed him into that exchange, he waved him over. if the president wants say it is a lousy question, that is his perogative, he let peter doocy ask in the first place. the president is right to say he didn't have anything to do with it, that is what devon archer's testimony confirmed. we talked yesterday on "the five." let me speak. >> kayleigh: devon archer said he wasn't on the phone call. >> jessica: devon archer said he wasn't aware of wrongdoing by the president. just -- >> harris: he's not. we don't know all of what happened -- >> jessica: devon archer either

matters or he doesn't. it was billed as bombshell testimony. he said not aware of wrongdoing by the president. that 1023 form, that republicans like james comer love to wave around, it wasn't evidence of a bribe. he knows nothing of the "5 million" the burisma board allegedly gave to joe biden. he talked what happened with viktor shokin. he said viktor shokin was good for burisma, he was investigating corruption there. every piece of so-called evidence republicans have has fallen apart, that is why chuck and ron johnson admitted multiple times they don't have it yet. i encourage everyone to watch steve doocy talking on "fox and friends" couch, he is ush approximating, tell me what law has been broken? >> harris: we have all been

asking that. >> jessica: not true. >> harris: i want to see the evidence, i've asked james comer. >> jessica: net effect is electoral disaster -- >> harris: let's move on. >> jessica: oh, okay. >> harris: i want to give somebody else a chance to talk. >> explain the payments, i don't believe it is true. take everything you said at face value, 20 million from russia, kazakhstan, while he is vice president. what did he get? no reason to send the money. 8 million from china for things done while he was vice president. face value, what were they being paid for? >> jessica: tell me. >> romania, what was the payment for? i don't send that money because you like somebody. you get something. >> jessica: what did he get?

>> he got a prosecutor fired. >> jessica: really? >> harris: the president told us that. >> i got him fired. >> jessica: he got him fired because -- >> harris: unless they fire that prosecutor, ask the team. >> jessica: i've seen the video 50 million times. >> harris: you know that exists with a ton of people in the audience. >> jessica: that prosecutor was not fired for the reason you say. >> harris: going to hold a billion dollars in u.s. aide? >> you are contradicting the president of the united states of eshg m. >> kayleigh: this is raising of the bar defense, jesicca, you said it was no big deal, okay, biden repeatedly said, i never spoke to my son about his business dealings. we learned from devon archer he spoke to him 20 times, he was on speaker phone and attended meetings at the cafe.

you are saying not a big deal the president of the united states lies. then you say no crime was committed, you are raising the bar. a crime doesn't have to be committed. this is corruption, american people see this and say it stinks. hunter gets a porsche because of joe biden who has been in public service for 80 years. millions in net worth. how did he get it? no democrat can answer, maybe you can, if joe biden is not the big guy, please tell me, i beg you, who is the big guy? who? >> no one knows because it is joe biden. >> harris: at stake is national security. nobody cares about hunter, do they, emily? do we want to go on youtube and keep looking, we don't care about him. did he make his father, did he put him in a position of vulnerability by giving people access to his father?

access to his dad, without the vetting of those people on the calls. we have an actual attorney. emily? >> emily: did you -- >> jessica: i'll go after. >> emily: there was influence being sought for and paid for. at minimum hundred of millions funnels through complex shells. >> jessica: hundreds of millions? >> emily: obscene amount not commiserate with their day job. and through shell companies formed for purpose of laundering or hiding money. take a step back, at minimum, it is unethical to sell your title for personal gain or for the gain of your family and ward to criminal, that would be truly selling access or influence. what disturbs me, court of

public opinion is different than a court of law. seems the argument from democrats, they need to see an actual check written out that in the memo line says for corruption from a ukrainian or chinese company. it doesn't work like that. when you have million vectors pointing to transfer of money, benefit of meetings and the like, gratification and thank you note from president biden. people have been convicted of murder without a body being found. the concept it is not newsworthy until a confegsz seems disengenuous, so much information points to most unethical and likely criminal force of influence pedalling. >> jessica: i think it matters and everyone should cover it and cover it fairly and do things like devon archer's testimony instead of round about.

comer didn't even show up. jim jordan said it is a productive session and he ran to cameras. >> kayleigh: january 6 committee like everyday. >> harris: i have not been in a position where people have read every page, that is what we were given to do and as journalists, we read it and it was lightly redacted. he said he and his dad were on the calls and they talked about the weather. it is about access and perception, you have a relationship with a powerful man. >> jessica: access and crimes are different. >> harris: i think emily laid it out. up next, the new information revealing multiple fbi field offices targeting catholics conflicting with christopher wray's testimony to congress just one month ago. we'll get to the truth. have d

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>> kayleigh: new outrage on capitol hill, house lawmakers demanding answers about a memo that targeted catholic americans. the directive was leaked in january and it was stunning. it described connection between radical catholics and extremism. we were told it was issued from the field office and fbi director christopher wray testified it was a single memo from a single office. >> director, what is difference in traditional catholic and

radical traditional catholic? >> i'm not expert on catholic order. >> your agent wrote a memo, can you define it for us? >> you are referring to the richmond product, a single product that was aghast and ordered it withdrawn and removed from fbi possession. >> kayleigh: we are learning that is not true, gop lawmakers got hold of the redacted memo and shows multiple offices were involved. jim jordan and mike johnson saying, the newelly produced version of the document explicitly states fbi richmond with fbi portland from preparing assessment. portland and los angeles field office were involved in or contributed to fbi assessment of

traditional catholic as potential domestic terrorists. i know you don't speak for the fbi, nor would i expect that. i want to ask this as people come from two different sides, curiously, why would wray redact this? we're told by "wall street journal" information specific to ongoing criminal investigation. number two, if you are fbi director going before congress, you know what is redacted, why say this is a single office when you know that is simply not true? >> jessica: i imagine and he did disown the memo, this wasn't something he was standing by and he said when it came to his attention, it was pushed back on. i don't think he had expectation redacted version come out and he thought it was done and dusted. it is right to continue the conversation if it was more widespread in l.a. and portland

field office. it was clear of the distinction of types of catholics, extremist catholics versus a normal practicing person and i think that is worth mentioning. this is concerning and i completely understand why they want to talk to christopher wray about it to make sure these directives are not out in more field offices or not the overwhelming sentiment of agents. >> kayleigh: i went to catholic high school, middle school, college, i go to catholic mass every other week, i've never met radical traditional catholic, i don't know what this means, it seems like targeting christian men and women going to church and putting an fbi informant in churches. >> you would assume multiple cities in america and i think christopher wray lied because he thought he could get away with

it. he tried to censor people on social media, they lied about the laptop in 2018. they lied about the steele dossier, knew hillary clinton and dnc paid for it. the fbi has a huge problem. any narrative, they will create and lie about. no doubt wray knew this was bigger than one field office. if you cared, you would have asked that question. if you were aghast, ask more questions how the hell did we get to this point? who wrote this? why did you target catholics this way? i think he thought i can give that answer and it will go away and i will say one off and this was across entire country. look at the map and l.a. and where it was in other parts of the country. nationwide issue and disparaging catholic. radical and nonradical is absurd, it is religious bigotry.

>> kayleigh: it is and stone walling, we have sought information generated by the richmond office dated january 23 and interest of racially or ethically radical traditional catholic ideology almost certainly. seeking this information since february. >> emily: two things deeply disturbing to me. one is being raised catholic and another as an american citizen. some tenants that led to notion include going to latin mass because it was familiar to them. notion of applying ortho proxy and equating that to extremist agenda is frightening and overvague and unconstitutional. as an american citizen, notion

either the director didn't know and wasn't aware or was awear and lied under oath, where is breakdown of the federal org chart. so here there is a breakdown of that type of org chart in the fbi or it is a whimsical approach that enables people of certain faith to be wrapped up into a radical agenda and extremeized by this facet of government that our tax dollars pay for. this is horrifying. >> i have a couple questions. august 22 is next week. when we will find out what christopher wray unearthed in that redacted situation, he's going to look beneath black marks and maybe some of what you are asking about could be answered, to say the man is a liar, he is at least unaware of

what is happening in his own department and incompetent to ask him when he goes to capitol hill. >> this is second time for him. >> harris: you can be incompetent more than once. question for wray, is it fair for federal government to decide and divide among believers. who decides who the most fervent prayers are? >> you go to church more often, you are more radical? >> my husband's family prays in hebrew, what do you call that? they are what? >> radical. >> yeah, is that where we're going? i don't know of a department of theologians at the fbi. give me a rundown on that. i believe they look at these things and department of looking at churches because they were hit in the 1960'ses, and i

understand that. this is deciding what faith looks like among parishioners and deciding who is evil among believers. who at the fbi is clergy or theologian and why are they prizing their division of hate? >> jessica: frightening precedent if we look at what happened in mosques when there were fbi and law enforcement infiltrating places of worship and talking about radicalization of all of the believers in islam and i understand what happened on 9/11, but everyone has accepted -- >> kayleigh: accept catholics, this was based on open source reporting from liberal outlet, the only evidence they have. show more evidence. jfk >> jessica: talking about what happened to the muslim community. >> kayleigh: you can do it to

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>> we are past our breaking points, new yorker compassion may be limitless, our pocket book is not. by the end of june, 2025, we are asking the federal government to declare state of emergency to allow federal funds to address urgent challenges we face. if we don't get support we need, new yorkers could be left with $12 billion bill. >> emily: sings a different tune, compassion is limitless and resources are not. >> emily: biden is going to send an aide, we don't need a communication liaison. we all see the pictures in front of the hotel. i'm tired of hearing about the

humanitarian left. kamala harris failed to visit, where kids were eating bloody chicken. joe biden has taken disinterest in the southern border and we know 60% of kids that cross are being trafficked. it seems to me joe biden only cares because humanitarian problem has become a political problem. we've had a humanitarian problem for two years plus, his administration has a political one being criticized from the democratic governor in massachusetts and elsewhere. democrats saying step up, he should have stepped up for the trafficked kids two years ago. >> emily: what did you think, the federal problem, will there be accountability, do you see reckoning for the president? >> jessica: i hope he takes action, i think having sanctuary city is important and there are

republicans who have been supportive of it. rudy giuliani was enthusiastic about the fact new york was a sanctuary city, people could come out and talk to law enforcement without fear of being deported. this is a federal problem that has become local for northeastern cities and should be federal dollars spent to fix it. we have jobs in this country. we know these people, vast majority, i understand a few bad apples get in. we all know some who are undocumented, they work hard and pay taxes to fake account so if the government finds them, they say we were trying to contribute. i hope dollars pour in and eric adams can deal with the problem and deal with it in chicago and washington, d.c. and other states where it is a problem and on the border, more dollars to eagle pass and everywhere that has this happening on daily

basis. >> emily: i went to show you down memory lane what eric adams used to say. the argument is this is what he wanted in october of 2021. protect our immigrants, period. yes, new york will remain a sanctuary city under adams administration. w "wall street journal" called him out calling it a political stunt. political stunt of claiming to be sanctuary city is not fun anymore. they are learning, new york learning how texas and florida feel fchl they want relief, they will put pressure on the biden administration by being honest about the biden administration immigration failure. >> they said greg abbott was sending illegal immigrants to new york. we have been dealing with this. if you think it is an emergency in new york, come to texas, this is 1/1000th of what we deal with

everyday. the idea if you send money, it is not a money issue, you have to secure the border. if you have open border, it will happen this way all over the country. >> harris: part of the reason for that, money doesn't solve the issue of immediate needs. they are taking clothes off, swimming out of rio grande and putting on other people's clothes that are probably still damp because they are coming over and trying to go into the communities there first. those communities are not seeing the money. transportation and other end of the journey but first crossing at border states, they are suffering, you saw the governor of texas put the buos up and the federal government didn't like that. jessica said there is law-breaking we are tolerating. federal immigration law says it

is being broken, we know the law by being a sanctuary area, city, jurisdiction or state. we're allowing cities like new york to break federal immigration law. why give them more taxpayer money. bingo. >> harris: why don't they follow the law and if they have people here, deport them. maybe you can't remain a sanctuary, move on and take care of this issue. why do we as taxpayers and i don't live in the state, i do in america. it makes a toxic culture, that is where we are as america. >> jessica: i didn't think a law about sanctuary city, you are telling me every -- >> harris: let me explain it. >> jessica: never heard it before. >> harris: the answer to your question is yes, you are not deporting people who should not

be here illegally. you are shielding those people, protecting and giving sanctuary. >> jessica: you say the crime is coming into the country. most of these people, governments like governor abbott shipped here, they are part of the system, registering. >> part of biden's system. >> jessica: what does that mean? >> emily: more to come, stay with us, including this, dying veteran locked in a legal battle to keep his home, going up against two members of the world's celebrity elites. that is next. just by switching. ooooh, let me put a reminder on my phone. on the top of the pile! oh. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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suffering from an incurable disease is battling with elites to keep his home. katy perry and orlando bloom have been locked in a legal battle over the veteran's home, the veteran is carl wescot, he suffers from huntington's disease, he bought the mansion to live out the rest of his days. just two months after he bought the home, rep for the couple approached him for the house, he signed a deal and agreed to the contract while under the influence of pain killers and once his mind cleared, he pleaded with perry's lawyers to retract the deal. he was not of sound mind to make the deal, their lawyers

threatened to sue. the case is set for trial later this month. why would someone with millions not just find another home. >> emily: the court's -- not to preserve contract or someone not in full mental capacity state. this is voidable and here is why. in addition to what you said in beginning, when the broker presented this offer, it was three days after he had surgery and opiates had been prescribed. he had never talked about selling it before, and he signed the paper. he got off the opiates, please, take it back. the agents refused and the lawyers threatened to sue. he can't attend the trial, he is bedridden and mentally

incapacitated. nothing about this suit would secure justice, he is a veteran and he deserves respect and not this like piraunapirauna pir a weaseling. >> perry was involved in a legal suit with nuns and basically she lost in court -- won in court and got property from the nuns. >> harris: look, this comes down to you want to be on the other side of this deal and have everybody know you as someone who takes advantage of someone coming out of surgery. if he can't have back what he lost, i would go with that. i would hold press conferences and do everything to let other people know this can happen to you, too. maybe there is some attorney out there, emily could do it, sit

down with the two parties and let them know there is more at stake than money, integrity and kindness to do the right thing. >> kayleigh: jessica, why would you want this? >> i'm not sure it will hurt their reputation. i understand it is a story, i hadn't heard this before, i am sure it will get more publicity, more feels wrong than what is legally wrong. >> harris: agreed. integrity. >> jessica: right and like do you feel good sitting in a house knowing that a dying guy, it was his. but it is for the courts to play out. i don't think it will affect perry or bloom's careers. things like that happen all the time, unother than iffate reflection. >> kayleigh: there could be more on this story, go find another

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state of the climate and our future. i believe that if we don't make necessary changes now, we will be changed in the future in ways we do not want and cannot control and will not be able to mitigate. >> i'm worried, this is all we have right now. >> pbs newshour is getting to the bottom of this issue and interviewed a climate energy scientist. that is a thing. >> when does healthy concern about climate change become this climate anxiety? >> from the emerging field of climate psychology, one thing that is important to understand, we view distress, upset, sadness, grief, anger to be reasonable and healthy reaction. it is really important to acknowledge if you're feeling that on any level of intensity, you are paying attention, you

care, you are empathetic to what is happening in the world. it can grow into something that interferes with functioning in daily life. >> emily: visuals there, too. >> only anxiety from that report, fact my tax dollars went to pbs to report on this anxiety. i'm tired of people being able to blame problems on things like this. i have anxiety from this, i can't go back to work, i'm too anxious to work with other people. go out and live. if you are always sitting around paranoid, fight climate change, knock yourself out tomp say you will sit down with a shrink to talk about it, i think we've gotten really used to having an excuse for everybodying not to be perfect and it is infecting younger kids and we need to grow up and deal with the world as it comes at us, that is part of

growing up. >> i guess pet rocks, too, other things people scoffed at, yet raised money for. >> harris: i never want to discourage anyone that ends in therapy, i support that, mental illness is real, few things in life come externally. internal things, like a broken arm, you go to the doctor. i am not getting the connection, i see older people worried about losing their home. look at maui right now. wildfires, look at our skies this summer when canada was on fire. things happen. i don't know that you're necessarily going to solve everything by being anxious and hurt, be resilient and with a plan, if therapy helps issue great. >> kayleigh: was it not peculiar that was a therapist describing getting panic attacks as "even healthy reaction," by

definition, having panic attacks is not healthy. you go to a therapist to fix that reaction. try russia anxiety, iran anxiety, china i can't think. >> emily: save it, we have bipartisan committee on conservation, so many people are working, to have that extreme reaction and the industry around it, takes advantage of those who need help that might be predisposed to anxiety. >> jessica: i particularly don't like when i see testimony from little kids that are scared out of their mind. i don't think it is right to tell young kids, you only have 20 years or whatever. it is hard. sandra does her tease during the breaks and she's talking about the fires in u mo, which

are important. you talk about the orange skies from what happened in canada and california. talk about rising sea temperatures. there is good reason to be concerned. i understand there is industrial component to this, people preying upon anxiety. climate change is real and getting worse and i understand why people are nervous about that. >> harris: hurricane dora has come in, those people have to get off that island today. that is reality today. >> jessica: hurricanes are getting more aggressive and effects are larger. >> emily: prayers are with everyone in hawaii right now. more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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>> last but not least, harris has a new special series ahead of the presidential election and it is hot. "families in focus," sitting down with the loved ones of the presidential candidates to talk about their campaigns and the lives behind the scene. a look at vivek ramaswamy's wife. >> i went up to him and you know, actually to tell you the truth, harris, that conversation did not go very well because the

first thing i said to him was i just met another vivek. >> are you serious? >> we saw each other later and we realized we had so much in common. we have been together ever since. before we were engaged i told my mom i have met someone and i'm pretty sure he's going to change the world. i didn't know how exactly that was going to be. >> i could not take my eyes off the television during the falkner focus. >> it was fun to get to know the person behind the person we see, especially when they are young. and go to new hampshire and out at the events and love being on the road and talking with voters about the people who are speaking and you see the wife of a candidate command the stage the way she did, they are gaming this out at home. it's all hands on deck and that is very different from what we see right now, with what the people in the white house. i think it's a departure from that, and it's fun, and you know, everybody that i'm going to sit down with i think casey

desantis, flash it on the big wall, tim scott and his mom francis, and she had that beautiful yellow dress on so with them in their spaces and on the trail and it's a blessing. and americans should know it's more than the candidate. >> cheryl heinz. that i would love. >> getting to know the candidates from the eyes of those who know them best. now here is "america reports." >> sandra: thank you, ladies. top the hour with the fox news alert, biden administration and iran have apparently agreed to a prisoner swap after two years of negotiations. that coming from an attorney representing the american prisoners. hello, welcome, gillian, great to have you today. >> gillian: busy news day already. gillian turner in for john roberts. releasing five iranian american prisoners whe