>> hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered," i'm kayleigh mcenany. joining me today "fox and friends first" co-host carley shimkus, host of the kennedy saves the world podcast, kennedy, restoring editor and senior fellow for independent women's forum kaylee mcgee white and columnist for the messenger joe concha. we begin with a call for america to get back to its founding

idea, freedom. that would be nice. presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy is speaking out against tyranny of minority and new oppression that seeks to punish people for having a different opinion. vivek made his case with an exchange with an lgbtq activist at iowa state fair and it's gone viral. >> i am personally pansexual, i was wondering your view on same-sex couples is? >> i don't have a negative view -- in name of protecting tyranny of majority, we have in the name of majority created new tyranny of the mind and i think that is wrong. i don't think somebody religious should be forced to officiate a wedding they disagree with.

i don't think a woman should be forced to compete against a biological man, i don't think anyone who is a woman should be forced to change clothes in a locker room with a man, that is not freedom, that is oppression. free adults should be able to dress how they want, that is fine. you don't become oppressive by hoisting that on others. it comes from the new culture of oppression where saying those things can get somebody punished and in my case, part of why it is my responsibility to say them and i respect you may have a different opinion and that is okay. you and i can be civil and have conversation and we live in a country that gives each of us right to speak to a presidential candidate back and say that we pledge of allegiance to the same

nation. that is the beauty of our country, my honest opinion. >> kayleigh: powerful exchange, this should be model for presidential candidate everywhere. he told the voter, i respect your difference of opinion. we live under the same flag, nevertheless refocused the issue. when your freedom impinges on children, for example. >> all conservative speakers who are shouted down on college campus, the birthplace of free speech. this video proves it doesn't have to be that way. when you talk to somebody you disagree with, both parties walk away smarter. you think about something you have not considered before or reaffirm your position. i love this video and moment, it is reminder and credit to lgbtq activist for being polite and shook his hand in the end. this video going viral, viewed millions of times on social

media. one person said this guy, vivek ramaswamy, is interesting, nice and is not 900 years old. other people felt it was so perfect, it was staged, i think that is because people are thrown off by civility. to me, it read as authentic. >> kayleigh: 13 million plus views, enormous, people appreciate civil discourse. you could have different opinions and go eat twinkies at the state fair. >> he is on a smooth, upward trajectory, he is meeting people where they are in every state, in every context and he's fearless when he talks to people and it really is, you bring up a good word. it is a model for discussing things, not only if you want someone's vote, but to find

common ground. that is important, finding common ground and stating his belief and desire to let this person know why he's having a hard time, why he's fired up and passionate and running for president. that is how, it is like we have seen families ripped apart, people we love most that we can no longer talk to or be in the same room with because of politics. for so long, people have gotten attention for being divisive and here is someone who is not necessarily in the spotlight to bring people together, but that happens to be the follow-through to what he's doing. he's showing people we can find common ground and talk to each other. we can have differences and in those differences, we don't have to hate each other. we are all american. can you imagine if he were vice president. someone like this able to articulate the points he has, can you imagine someone like

that representing this country, it makes you think for a moment. >> kayleigh: vivek's camp confirmed it is authentic exchange. words really matter and speaking to the issue we were talking about, a lot of sensitivities, it is a personal issue. when you look at "washington post," watch how polling flips. more than 60% surveyed do not want men in biological sports, 77%, huge numbers, think you should not discuss sex identity in k-3 education. watch how it flips when you flip polling and say are you against anti-lgbtq legislation, 70% say yes, we are against that. framed in culture war, don't say gay, you lose, when you talk about children, you win. >> when you are specific on the question, do you think biological males should compete

against biological females? lia thomas ranked 500th as a man and goes to the women's side and wins a national championship. my wife swam and is not a political person. you know how hard it is to get to division i scholarship and you work your butt off and you are going to get beat because the person you are running against his legs like saquon barkley. inside baseball. vivek ramaswamy, the standard in this business, play a sound bite 15 or 20 seconds, maybe 25, we played that for a full minute because that is how good it is. kennedy said, he will meet people wherever they are, including television. he will go anywhere, he is unflappable, respectful and

civil and intelligent. i agree, that is a vice presidential candidate right there. if i'm donald trump, i get it is a long way to go, polling is polling, that first guy i look at. who is donald trump? an outsider. who is an outsider? vivek ramaswamy, worth $600 million based on what he made in the private sector. age, talk about maturity, mature guy there. >> kayleigh: he did the flood the zone media strategy going on with don lemon and chuck todd, tim scott did that, it is a lesson toin kas. kaylee mcgee white, i hope we see more interactions like that, that wins persuadable voters. >> absolutely, the other reason this is going viral issue the message vivek is talking about resonates with people.

reminds me of the oliver anthony song going viral. this is how americans feel on a number of issues issue not just transgenderism, about 4% of the population identify as gender different than their sex. the other 95% are being asked to give up safety and fairness in women sports and restrooms and accommodate language barrier to use preferred pronouns, even if they disagree with this. climate change, 30% think climate change is priority government should be setting on top. the other 70%, what do we have to deal with? federal government that is forcing new emission standards on us, trying to ban gas stoves and we don't want any of it. what he's talking about here is important message american public agrees with and they are tired of feeling oppressed and

stifled on issues that used to be common sense. >> kayleigh: tyranny of the minority. well done vivek. in a few hours, president biden will celebrate one year passage of inflation reduction acts, it is his gafffe-filled visit in milwaukee as millions of americans still struggle with sky-high prices. ♪

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♪ >> kayleigh: president biden getting called out again after repeating now debunked tall tales during a trip to milwaukee yesterday. including the circumstances of his father's education and his interaction with amtrak conductor, to name just a few.

>> president biden: my grandpa biden died very young, died in the hospital i was born in six days before i was born. my dad was high school educated guy and worked like hell. he didn't have a chance to go to college. i was listed poorest man in the united states congress for years. my wife called me, did you read the paper today? i was campaigning for pat leahing y in vermont. headline, above the fold, only politician's wife would say that. biden poorest man in congress, is that true? one of the senior guys at amtrak, who i rode with all the time, joey, baby, grabs my cheek. swear to god. >> kayleigh: all of those false. where is glen kesler, fact checker when you need them? must be napping.

the president told another tall tale, success of bidenomics. >> president biden: inflation is down and going lower, we've done more, we have more to do with inflation, though. just about 3% now and predicted to go lower. wages are grower faster than inflation. folks, that is bidenomics, it is about growing economy by strengthening the middle class. [applause] >> president biden: and making things in america again. my first two years in office, with all we've done, i'm first to cut the federal debt by 1 trillion 700 billion dollars. 1 trillion 70 billion cut generated growth. folks, we've always had a plan at turning things around and making america stronger, safer and more competitive. bidenomics is just another way of saying restoring the american dream.

>> kayleigh: that's it, that is deception campaign we'll hear from now until november. he is relying on the media not fact checking him. cnn headline, tweet, president biden hasn't let his predecessor stop him from traveling the country and trying to breakthrough with a pitch on bidenomics. >> joe: whether the old cnn, resistance network that serves for the president. higher amount believe he is not handling inflation well, inflation is 250% higher than when he took office. fact check, there it is. i wrote a book about joe biden, he plagiarized during law school and in 1998, that should have been the end, mplagiarizing

during a speech. he tried to see nelson mandela while in south africa, sure that would make headlines, that did not happen. i never talked to my son about business dealings, current lie. bottom line, goal is to make donald trump focus, not donald trump focus on the economy, on border, on education, on crime, on foreign policy toward china, to make donald trump focus in terms of his legal challenges at this point and for joe biden to run the same campaign in 2020 by pleading the fifth and not talking to the press and showing up to campaign and making referendum on donald trump the person, not the policy. >> kayleigh: he wants to be background noise. biden has gaffes in the media, that is uncle joe, that is what

he does. at what point is it indication of the man's character? he is not just lying about being arrested to try to see nelson mandela, or about participating in civil rights marches or about how his son beau died. he is claiming you single handedly brought down inflation from 9% to 2% when it was that when you took office is appalling. you are lying to the american people who are poorer than they were when you took office. it is insulting and i hope in 2024, voters say enough of this. >> kayleigh: this is reality, look at wall, u.s. inflationen moos families spend $709 more, lifestyle cash strapped american new norm and more americans ending up homeless at a record

rate. that is bidenomics, guys. >> bidenomics is living off your credit card when the interest rate is 20% plus. highest base rates we've seen in history. the reason joe talks about 30% of americans giving the president approval on inflation, it is because they feel it and it is a tax and they are being punished every month and 60% of americans in every tax bracket living paycheck to paycheck, being promised this will get better. if you hear the president and treasury secretary and fed chair coming out saying inflation is tame, the economy is doing great, you start to spend like it and you spend more than you bring in. what point are people so under water that the economy craters when consumer confidence is lost. if things are going great, when is the fed going to cut rates? not any time soon, they will

continue to raise rates, mortgages are more expensive, fewer people have access to housing and more people get fired, that is bidenomics. >> kayleigh: carley, i read this two days ago, we're both millennials and grated during the great recession in obama's era, brief reprieve four years good under trump. this is from "washington post," those born between 1996 unluckiest generation, experiencing slowest economic growth of any age group and been weighed down by student debt, child care cost and there is 26% jump in housing costs. kind of gloomy. >> yeah, housing used to be the standard issue the norm, and now owning your own home is becoming a luxury, that is not good state

of affairs and young people are staying in their parent's house for a lot longer and whole psychological element comes into play when you feel like you are trying so hard to succeed and can't get to the next step and people are marrying later and having fewer children because of it. things are happening because of higher prices affecting younger people who should be striving and etch radioing goals they are not. i think the moody's headline issue president talking about lowering inflation, people are spending $709 more than before he entered office two years ago, that says it is all and why his approval rating is 37% when it comes to the economy. his main message on the campaign trail has been bidenomics, he put his name into economic message and that is huge risk for him. >> this is the only thing republicans should be talking about between now and next

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>> growing in serious concern over recruitment after entire police force just quit in a small city in minnesota. the city could be left without a police department. the chief raised concerns last month saying officers don't make enough money, just $22 per hour. >> like i said, this has been three weeks now, zero applicants

and i have zero prospects. i've called everywhere around and there is nobody getting into the game. >> carley: you don't often hear about entire police force quitting at once, $22 is not cutting it. >> kayleigh: one of the hardest jobs in the world. drugs are rampant, people are shooting one another, there are smash and grabs. person gets out on bail and your work was worth essentially nothing because the guy gets let out. we need to protect and prize our police officers. come to florida, they are giving $2000 bonuses amounting to $5000 after taxes. recruiting officers from new york, california and pennsylvania. >> this is a small minnesota

town going through funding issue and an issue across the country and no greater example of it what is going on in portland, this woman was attacked by a homeless person and knocked unconscience, when she woke up, she called 911. it took so long to get to her, she went home. they said their officers were on 26 calls, zero free officers and another 52 calls holding. there were 52 other people that were in trouble and there was no police and it is not the police fault, it is lack of officers. so many quit or left for other cities. >> it is not the police department's fault, it is politically correct mayors and daytime emmys who took their marching order from the 2020 riots and the blm movement and demonize the police.

when you put entire society at odds with the police department, what do you think they are going to do? they are going to shrug. for people who want reform, you are never going to get it. that will not happen, these cities will divolve into lawlessness and progresive voters will realize the tax base is leaving and it happens to coincide with high tax high crime places like san francisco and los angeles. they are creating deaf loops and you make more as a nanny than as a cop. again, that is a very important job. if you are talking about protecting vulnerable citizens, you are leaving them as sitting ducks. >> carley: kennedy brings up such a good point, we know what works and doesn't and things are

not changing. >> joe: precisely, did you hear $22 an hour, that is before taxes. after taxes call it $13 you are taking home. 40-hour work week, 520 you are taking home, how do you live on that if you have a family. not like you have a low risk type of job. you could be shot, for $22, that is what you are worth, really? people are tired of being branded by democratic activists as racist and tired of being guilty until proven innocent . blue line sign on your yard is considered racist at this point. hire all the officers in the world, if you don't have district attorneys, you have to -- or you will demoralize the police officers. >> kayleigh: we see the smash

and grab videos and it has to do with prop 47 over there. that is relatively new phenomena, not long ago we learned of the term smash and grab and now they happen everyday. >> it is kaegsz indication this is across the board issue with recruitment down and retirement up. boils down to if we value our law enforcement as vital citizens and whether public city officials back them to the hilt and say yes, we are going to have order on our streets issue justice will be served. you hear from officers, including seattle cop who released her resignation letter and she was so discouraged on the job because when they were performing their duty to fellow citizens and putting criminals behind bars, prosecutors refused to prosecute and hold criminals accountable and got to the point of what is point of this job and

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>> kayleigh: catholic couple suing the state of massachusetts claiming it banned them from fostering children because of their religious beliefs. the lawsuit includes copy of the rejection letter they received. it says the applicant must support the child's sexual or gender identity. they wouldn't be affirming to an lgbtq child, they say that is not true and they discussed their lawsuit with martha maccallum on the story. >> we believe that the reason we were rejected is because we were very vocal in the fact that we are practicing catholics. >> we love one another as god has loved us. i would love that childlike my mother loved me when i did

something wrong. >> we were shocked when we got the decision, but the real issue at stake here is whether or not religious families should be allowed to foster and adopt in massachusetts. massachusetts laws say yes, all people of faith can participate in society. >> kayleigh: kennedy, there are 200 million plus christians and add jewish parents, muslim parents, people with traditional belief, unfit to adopt? >> kennedy: it is unbelievable, i am disgusted by this anti-catholic bias temperature is pervasive in society. fbi tried to deny, they were targeting catholics for surveillance and they are putting politics over well being of children. that is unimaginable.

so if you have another family and maybe they have sub-standard environment to raise kids, they are going to foster children because of their politically aligning beliefs. politics might be perveefed slightly different, but they have a more loving home? you will deny children access to that home? they have very solid legal grounds to fight this because this is so discriminatory and unconstitutional. >> carley: this couple went to work every week and were open to adopt a special needs child. these kids live in deplorable conditions and all they want is love and you use children as pawns because of bigoted belief about religious couples? >> massachusetts officials said in the interview notes, they were an amazing couple and

understand value of foster care and adoption, they live in a democratic state and are observant catholics. only mark against them. talk about what the state of massachusetts is saying, not just anticatholic bigotry. think about this, 19% of thousands in the foster care system are not placed with families. they are placed in hospitals because there is nowhere else to put them or placed in foster care agency offices without sufficient bedding and you are saying a catholic couple can't adopt kids in desperate need. that is awful. >> carley: one little boy i volunteered with him and the sister overseeing him said i want to be eaten by an alligator. what six year old boy should say

that. >> i could cry. i'm a new mom and children are the most innocent and want the most love and be like every other child and have parents to celebrate christmas and dad to look at during a baseball game and that is what these kids want. there was an recall last month titled inside america's critical shortage of foster care homes and ceo of one foster group said we are in a massive cries and crisis means we have kids living in a casino or juvenile hall when they have done nothing wrong. a couple said, i will take in a child who needs love and the state said no. maybe they are too catholic? i would love to know if the state of massachusetts would have denied a muslim couple, religion muslims and catholics aline on lgbtq issues. i see this going to supreme

court. >> joe: massachusetts. 117,000 kids are waiting to be adopted. if the couple is atheist, that makes it okay, this is a joke. >> kayleigh: similar case in oregon with jessica baits, denied for the same reason. kids come last, they are pawns in the sick game. harvard university has billions, but the school wants students to apply for food stamps, that is next. [camera shutter sfx] introducing ned's plaque psoriasis. [camera shutter sfx] he thinks his flaky, red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. [ned?] it can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required.

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>> fox news power rankings show donald trump with a commanding lead. marc thiessen helps break it down ahead. three school districts in new jersey are requiring the schools to tell parents if they change their again ter identify. and thought cal ripken had a stellar attendance record? a burger king employee did not miss a day of work 27 years. ripken only did 21. and why was a couple denied application to foster or adopt

in the state of massachusetts. i'm john roberts. join gillian turner and me at the top of the hour for "america reports." >> oh, i got bills to pay. richest university in the world is now encouraging grad students to apply for food stamps. the school has a massive endowment, $53 billion and community members believe the school should be giving graduate students maybe a better stipend. how about that. instead of tapping into the funds and lending students a helping hand, they put out this flyer that reads fuel your body and stock your pantry. did you know grad students may qualify to receive assistance, paying for food and groceries? how about a little assistance from your alma mater there. >> yeah, my alma mater. exactly, hey, they did advertise

this when i was there, i don't know what's in the drinking water these days at harvard, this is crazy. and student loans, tuition is artificially inflated and now they are saying wait, let's go back to government and get more money, this time to feed the students. it's a vicious cycle. >> this is essentially a college that is masquerading as a university. >> i take harvard's side in this, the students, they are demanding more pay. they make about 40,000 a year in salary, paid for by the university. what they are protesting, they want to be paid more. 40,000 is the median income of someone living in ohio. you are not entitled to a six figure salary as a graduate student. i don't mind harvard pointing out some other options, if you need that much help in school, go for it. >> taxpayers should not be on

the hook when they choose to go to the university, $55,000 a year for graduate students. sure, they are getting 40 grand but they are in the red to what they are paying. should taxpayers be in a totally different way funding the bad choices of people who are going to make millions moreover their lifetime than two-thirds of americans who will be on the hook for it? >> invent a word, not, at all, of course not. harvard gets $53 billion endowment. you know how much money that is? countries don't have that as gdp. 80,000 all in. if i want to send my kid to harvard, 320,000 over four years. i have to earn and my wife $600,000 before taxes to send one kid to college. i'm sure they have enough money to give out free meals, kraft macaroni and cheese. >> $0.99 a box.

>> kayleigh, kennedy, conch, karley. >> have biden say that five times fast? >> incredible. so initially i was thinking there are people on, you know, full rides to harvard because they come from low income families, so maybe that would make sense. kayleigh is right, what this is, grad students who work as teachers and who get employed by harvard and they are making not enough money, so harvard is saying go get the food stamps. when really, this $55 billion endowment, just pay them more and to your point, kennedy, don't rely on taxpayer assistance but comes as no surprise that liberal harvard would be advocating for people to rely more on the government. >> yes, that reminds me of the line from "the social network," we are gentlemen of harvard. >> we have more "outnumbered" in

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today the u.s.s. intrepid was commissioned into active military service. the ship now a military maritime history museum in new york city welcomed back nearly 200 former crew members and their family members to a special ceremony this morning. the intrepid was first deployed to the pacific ocean during world war ii. it was attacked by japanese kamikazes and the ship also saw action during the vietnam and cold wars. since first commissioned, more than 50,000 people served on the legendary aircraft carrier and joe concha, i understand, has been done it. >> i didn't fight off of it or anything, it was a new year's eve party in 1998, 1 of those all you could drink deals and it was a catastrophe. but having been there with my kids as well, this thing is huge. three football fields long, 912 feet long, 192 feet wide. it went through an overhaul in 1965, so it could be used again in vietnam.

so, this is done tours in many, many wars, historic place, if you live in the new york city area or visit, one place you want to bring your kids to because there is just such awesome history and act like you know what you are talking about. >> and kennedy, you go on the west side highway in new york city, it's enormous, three football fields. >> incredible piece of living history also a part of the space program because the intrepid went out and collected capsules and astronauts and other debris. >> 80 years today. >> i think it's incredible we can honor the greatest generation and honoring how many phases of life this ship has been through. i'm gen z and i wonder if my own peers would be able to identify the ship and what it did in the

vietnam war and cold war, amazing history everyone should pay attention to. >> we are going to make some amazing history at fox news, one week from today, the first republican residential debate, august 23rd in milwaukee, 9:00 p.m. eastern, on the fox news channel with martha and bret, the moderators. the first face-off for the top gop contenders. you don't want to miss it. i certainly won't. dvr us. "america reports." >> we believe the reason we were rejected is because we were very vocal in the fact we are practicing catholics. >> they said to us we didn't follow the "lgbtq policies of the state." >> the real issue at stake here is you know, whether or not religious families should be allowed to foster and adopt here in the state of massachusetts. >> john: a long and difficult journey to become foster parents ends in heartbreak for a cathol cpl