okay. all the preparations for the debate. the behind scenes look at the stable. actually see that with bill and dana in the morning, first. please remember if you can't catch us live set your dvr 3 p.m. in the west and 6 p.m. in the east. that's it for "special report," fair balanced and unafraid. debate is coming. laura is here. ♪ ♪ >> laura: hi, everyone. i'm laura ingraham. the actor and comedian rob schneider that's going to be fun joining me later in the show on what would be and should be a wake-up call for the elites. but, first, when donald trump traveled to puerto rico after the devastated by cat 5 hurricane, the tv jackals were not happy. >> people suffering treating basically like peasants, here, a paper towel for you. here's a paper tall for you. >> it's totally disrespectful.

not only that, it's not the american way. that's not the spirit the american people to be throwing and lobbing paper towels at us as if we were animals. >> laura: when melissa went along to offer support, she was portrayed as heartless as well, not for anything she said or did, but for what she wore. >> i mean, i don't think she could spell it out any more clearly. to say me, it's not a hidden message. this is as overt as it gets. >> nothing the first lady does is an accident. especially when you have a giant sign on the back of your coat that you know people are going to be seeing. >> maybe it's a moment of true candor from her. this administration doesn't care about these kids. >> laura: so the calculated hysteria lasted for days on both of those stories, nonstories. yesterday, when joe biden finally took a pause from his lake tahoe vacation staying at

tom steyer's $1 million house and went to visit the site of the worst fire in american history. the press offered no such scrutiny after even seeing the way he addressed the suffering. >> i don't want to compare difficulties, but we have a little sense, jill and i, what it's like to lose a home. years ago now, 15 years ago i was in washington doing meet the press. it was a sunny sunday. and lightning struck at home on a little lake that's outside of our home -- not a lake, a big pond. to make a long story short, my i almost lost my wife, my 67 corvette, and my cat. >> laura: the cat. now, who is really the heartless one here again? now, let's all reflect on this for a moment. 115 of our fellow americans are

dead, more than 800, including many children apparently, they are still missing, many presumed dead. but, please, joe, tell us more about how you almost lost your fancy car and your cat. now, his sob story about the house almost burning down is more joe malarkey. it was a kitchen fire. i don't know, maybe the cat's whiskers got singhed. it's just like the maui fire. but, let's be fair. at least when joe lies, he embellishes the story with dramatic details. >> all kidding aside, i watched the firefighters, the way they responded, sometimes smoke is so thick from the windows out it was that thick inside the home. >> laura: whoa, wait, he watched the firefighters put out the kitchen blaze? he is not just a pathological liar, apparently he has magical

powers because he also claimed in that interview that he did at the time that he was in d.c. to do meet the press. now, his home is about two hours away in delaware. the fire lasted 20 minutes. now, who knew that joe could bilocate? and at one point he even appeared at least to be nodding off. >> when someone they may have never met before, we are a community that relies on family. >> laura: but whatever the case, you know, was trump more engaged tossing supplies to the crowd or was biden more engaged with his phony stories and half dazed looks? of course, the press will never ever call biden on any of this. any of the lies about -- embellishments about tragedies and who died where or how they died, because democrats are

never held accountable. it's always power by any means necessary. always two different sets of rules. joining me now is ari fleischer, former white house press secretary as well as kellyanne, former senior counsel to president trump. both are fox news contributes. kellyanne, i know you remember this trip to puerto rico. you might as well have thought that, you know, melania had said something incredibly cruel to the victims of the hurricanes there but they stayed on that story about her coat for, i think this went on for almost two weeks. >> well, the message on her coat was for the mainstream media. it occurred after she had been at the border visiting the children. that was for the mainstream media. that aside, this is the essence of who joe biden is he got elected in 2020 on a false premise. i'm a moderate. i'm a unifier. i'm compassionate done. i'm empathetic. i have been in government for half a century. therefore i can expense

resources to people in need like if they ever suffer from the america's greatest fire in maui. but i don't want to excuse his conduct, laura. i'm sick of people saying these are gaffes. that he exsass gear rates and embellishes these are flat out lies. who is around him to stop him. do you know how long of a flight around them. him. hey don't mention the house fire again like did you in october of 2022 when people were suffering from a hurricane because it made no sense and it's a lie. and 9 other thing to note about joe biden on this is the gold star mom, made a gold star mom because of his chaotic and irrational withdrawal from afghanistan two years ago this month, she said her heart started beating fast and she started just staring into space because he said to her jill and i know know something about your loss. our son also came home in a flag draped coffin. it is tragic that beau biden

died of cancer as the gold star mom said he didn't die in combat. he died of cancer in delaware. that is tragic no doubt. but she said at least you had a chance to be with him in the end. you robbed us of that chance. so he lies for the sake of lying. and, by the way, when you are a leader, especially president of the united states, ari noses this, he was there can you use the word i a lot less than joe biden does. >> laura: i think all politicians need to do it. biden's trip was covered by cnn this way. >> he did serve as empathizer in chief after five days of being mostly silent on the issue publicly but the governor said he was working behind the scenes to assure the first responders that the feds had their back on this. he shared the stories we're familiar with of losing his daughter and wife and wondering if his sons had survived a car accident early in his political career and that's what so many people here are going through now. >> laura: ari, this is so brazen at this point. i mean, the lies keep piling up. and the media know they are lies

or they're totally ignorant. they never call him on it. this is -- this is astounding. >> yeah, laura. what bothers me so much is joe biden is not empathetic man. is he a selfish man. is he a selfish man, an old man who all he knows how to do is press play. he presses play on the same old broken tunes he has been telling for decades. it doesn't matter what the circumstance is. when someone is in the middle of bereavement. do you know what he want this to hear? they don't want to hear you also had something. they don't want you to compare your tragedy even if it's a kitchen fire to their real fire. they want to marry you. they want you to express sympathy about what they are going through. their loss, not your cat. not your corvette. that's what they want to hear from the president. and as for him comparing it to his house fire, i was thinking that would be like on september 11th, george bush or me saying that i understand what the nation is going through because somebody once broke on to my front porch and stole a package. joe biden is just out of touch

with what people think. if he thinks it's about himself and his kitchen fire. >> laura: kayleigh mcenany, i think this really speaks to the overall narrative of lies it's always trump's big lie. it's all you hear about from the media, trump's big lie. these are series of lies about personal tragedies. how things were going in ukraine. and the lies keep piling up. now the american people are left with, what? an election where they are going to try to, i don't know, put everyone in masks again and send out mail in ballots? this is where we are. >> well, it's good republicans are going to invest in what i call the nonsexy part of politics lawyer and ari. the mechanics. look at joe biden, kamala harris, john fetterman, the democrats have no interest in elevating and electing quality human beings to high office. they have an interest in power and keeping it. so they don't tell us why to

vote philosophically or even for whom but where, how and when. on joe biden people need remember. they needs to be held to account and i think every democrat should be made to eat and own what you saw yesterday in maui. complete disgrace, as well as all the policies. i have a little bit more faith. if you look at all the polls not only is joe biden and kamala harris even less popular than he, if you can believe it. not only are they under water with their approval ratings, laura. they are under water on every major issue. no one issue or attribute cares about people like me, compassionate. has a plan, understands the middle class, no one attribute where you can stake a claim and say that's the rationale for re-election this is the first election joe biden will be litigated by the voters and that's why he will lose. >> laura: laura, on this debate tomorrow night on fox. trump is obviously not going to be there. do you think that if you were advising him, would you advise him to not attend because he is so far up in the polls why give chris christie the chance to be

the punching, you know, him being the punching bag. or would you say go and show, show your record who you are. what would you say? >> yeah. for the primary purposes it would be political malpractice for him to show up. he has a 40, 50 point lead over his opponents. nothing to gain for donald trump showing up in a primary. the problem what you want as republicans to get almost 82-year-old joe biden next year. and if the president is set, donald trump didn't debate so why should i. we'll say joe biden next fall. then donald trump has got inconsistency problem to deal with if he is the nominee. it was good enough for him to skip well it could be good enough for biden. and someone who wants america to be exposed to what an 82-year-old bumbler looks like nothing is more important than getting him on that stage and giving him an excuse. there is two sides. i get the short-term side but long-term damage by not showing up. at least for the first one.

>> laura: that's fascinating. i hadn't thought about that. kellyanne, do you predict that joe biden will or will not debate whoever the republican nominee is next year "yes" or "no," will he? >> no. he won't. they won't let him out there. they hardly let him out there at all. >> laura: i agree. >> and maybe it would even mean kamala doesn't have to debate which of course they would want to avoid also because she battles the teleprompter every day the teleprompter wins. she doesn't put in the work. i can't imagine her debating another human you can on policy and substance and her record. that would be terrible. i believe debates are part of the democratic process. we the people deserve to see the voters debate each other free of charge. >> laura: ari and kellyanne, thank you. biden is lying about his house fire got us thinking about the other things he has been lying to us about. this is ongoing problem with him. you can't say it's because he is old because he has been doing this literally for decades. so let's get back into the time

machine. let's go back to 1987. then senator joe biden, he was 44. no signs of sen nilty then bragging how smart he was. >> i think i have a much higher iq than you do. i suspect. i went to law school on a full academic scholarship and ended up in the top half of my class and i would be delighted to sit down and compare my iq to yours. >> laura: okay. here are the facts. he got a half scholarship and not a full one. and it was based on financial need. not in his grade intellect. he also graduated 76 in a class of 85. not in the top half. all right. the next lie. >> 30 years ago, mandela walked out of prison and entered into discussions about apartheid. i had the great honor of meeting him. i had the great honor of being arrested great u.n. ambassador trying to get to see him on

robin's island. >> laura: "the washington post" actually gave biden four pinocchios on that one and said there is no evidence to support it. all right. there's another arrest story though. this time, while he was protesting for civil rights. >> i'm so damn old i was there as well. [laughter] seems like yesterday the first time i got arrested. anyway. >> laura: the "new york times" said there is no evidence that he was ever arrested during a civil rights protest. that has to be it, right? no, there's more? biden claimed he watched the pittsburgh bridge collapse and with his own eyes. >> petitioner is a city of bridges, more bridges in pittsburgh than any other city in america. i watched that bridge collapse. i got there and saw it collapse. >> laura: didn't happen unless he has owl like eyesight because from the pool report that day

the president had been told of the bridge collapse in pittsburgh. he wasn't there. i can keep this going all night. okay, one more. >> driving an 18 wheeler, man. >> oh, yeah? that's awesome. >> i would like. to say. >> i used to drive a tractor-trailer. >> oh, awesome. >> so i know a little bit about driving big trucks. >> laura: now, the white house tried really really hard to prove that one to be correct. but, it turns out the president rode once in an 18-wheeler. so the lies keep coming. and the left keeps allowing them to come unchecked. so i think all of us need to ask ourselves if he is willing to lie about something as silly as driving an 18-wheeler, what else is he lying to us about? up next, my angle on what the left has -- is seething about now. and, plus, comedian rob schneider reacts. so stay there. ♪

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♪ ♪ lawyer the anthem for the voiceless that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> practically overnight, this is crazy, the singer has gone from unknown to number one on the billboard charts.

the unsigned artist breakout hit it's called rich man north of richmond went viral earlier this month. sitting in the top spot on the billboard top 100. he is the first artist ever in history to meet that milestone in any form whatsoever. >> laura: an historic climb on the charts, that should be a wake-up call to these out of touch elites in politics. entertainment industry who you routinely write off or look down on half the country. >> all this damn country does is keep on kicking them down. lord, it's a damn shame ♪ what the world's gotten to ♪ for people like me ♪ and people like you ♪ if i could just wake up ♪ and it not be true ♪ but it is ♪ oh, it is ♪ >> laura: so weeks after we featured the song on the angle, "the today show" finally caught up to the groundswell.

not with bias, but with bewilderment. >> conservatives have rallied behind the track, it calls out wealthy legislators in washington, d.c. some are describing it as raw and authentic. although on own youtube channel he labels his political views quote dead center down the aisle, everybody is talking about this thing. >> laura: they are talking all right but it's not all nice. the venomous crew over at cnn is clearly seething over the breakout success of those establishing their own counter culture. the left is so used to having a monopoly aren't they in music and in film, theater, even sports that they start to sputter and fume at any perceived encroachment by non-wokesters. liberal commentator oliver darcy at cnn described americans as primed to loathe mainstream pop culture and the media that they're willing to open their pocketbooks to champion their politics. that's true. darcy went on to warn that

anthony's success could spell the end of a shared popular culture similar to how the advent of right wing talk radio and fox news ultimately spelled the end of a shared understanding of current events. okay. a shared understanding of current events. a shared popular culture. what on earth is mr. darcy talking about? now, someone needs to break it to the modern left. we did, at one point, have a shared culture and year by year, decade by decade, they mocked it, they trashed it, and ultimately they destroyed it. and ever since, powerful interests have worked to supplant traditional values, country, family, faith, with a radical sexual and political agenda. the principle of tolerance to tolerate everybody that gave way to forced acceptance and in the process, what do they do? they ruin the news business,

walter cronkite wanted to be trusted by everyone. remember? dan rather he wanted to be known as outspoken lefty. they both got what they wanted. eventually an opening was created for rush limbaugh and for fox news. well, they ruined education, too. test scores, they are plummeting across america. standards are being lowered or even eliminated. the curricula, bastardized. this spawned the homeschooling phenomena. well, they did the same to film, theater, music, fashion years ago on one of my books i called it the importantification of the culture pornified and politicized as well. these performers can't stop making fools of themselves. >> i have thought an awful lot about blowing up the white house. you know when donald trump spoke about american carnage i assumed that was something he was against. not a campaign promise. >> the past four years have left

us as a nation diminished and divided. we are better than this. america is better than this. half of the country not listening to those fools. they don't like what is happening to our kids and schools and what is happening to our popular culture. they don't trust hollywood and don't trust the news media and don't trust politicians frankly in either party. what does this do? this opens the door to new voices in politics and new voices in the culture who want to create movement and in this case want to create music and then films, plays, and even businesses for the under served. and as for the consumers, what do they do? they boycott woke nonsense at places like target, bud light, or they support outsider films like the sound of freedom or musicians like oliver anthony. that's their own form of protest

so are liberals really so clueless that they didn't already know that the culture was splintered and that they did it? now, i remember when they were urging a boycott of their own, of chick-fil-a because the ceo gave money to christian charities. but we christians or other traditional americans, what are we supposed to do? shovel our money to people who obviously despise us? we're not supposed to try to create alternative entertainment, business, news channels? i get it, sorry. they have are the only ones entitled to protest and create. it was great when they were the only ones, right, challenging the old guard, the old guard back in the 1960s and 1970s with their films and with their music? but when oliver anthony a guy nobody has heard of, strikes a cchord with his song it's seen s a threat. news flash to the elites, long before oliver anthony, country music embodied the independent,

kick ass american spirit. the works class, the forgotten man and a simpler way of life. jason aldean try that in a small town is reminiscent of hank williams jr. classic. >> i got a is the gun, a rifle, and a 4 wheel drive ♪ and a country boy can survive ♪ country folks can survive >> laura: then it was back in 1974 that johnny cash released ragged old flag. that was a patriotic ode. liberals say they are triggered today when they see too many american flags. athletes made millions after refusing to stand for the anthem. so, yeah. there are a lot of people out there who love the country and they are ticked off. and they want their own space. but they are not going to find it at disney. they couldn't do a live remake of snow white at disney without turning it political. >> the original cartoon came out in 1937 and very effortly so. there is a big focus on her love

story with a guy who literally stalks her. >> weird, weird. >> the fact that she is not going to be saved by the prince and she is the proactive one and she is the one who sets the terms is what makes it so relevant where we are today. >> laura: relevant? where we are today is that disney is relegated to making live action remakes of their most storied animated films and turning them into tedious spectacles starring bubble head actors and actresses who parrot liberal tropes and directed lie liberal adults who think they are more talented than walt disney himself. now, let's see which the audience likes better? the original that ms. zeigler claims is so terrifying and outdated or the 2024 version oozing with female empowerment? so, look, you can have a common culture or you can have an

alienating left wing propaganda machine, but you cannot have both. and that's the angle. up next, actor and comedian rob schneider responds. so stay there. ♪ acellus courses for parents independently homeschooling their children. our complete k through 12 homeschool program includes courses in math, science, social studies, reading and language arts. it also includes electives such as music, 3d printing and programing. power homeschool has really transformed our child's experience and allows her to work at her own pace. visit our website at power homeschool dot org to learn more and start your child's educational journey.

>> laura: just as cultural marxists have done with other artists jason aldean and it producers of sound of freedom. trying to cancel oliver anthony through smears because of youtube play list now. this is going to backfire just as it has before. because we are on to their tiresome and desperate game. now, someone who is not tiresome and desperate is actor and comedian rob schneider. he is also the star of woke up in america, available exclusively right now on fox nation.com. it is hilarious. rob, i don't want you to with desperate. that is just horrible and tedious. no, that's not what you are. >> thank you. look, first of all, if i may

correct your little news program, laura, when biden in hawaii with the, you know, when they are honoring the victims of the fire. he was not sleeping, he was taking a prayer nap. praying for the victims. it's very obvious. he was praying for them. you could tell mid sleep -- he did that every once in a while. and i know people complain it's $113 billion for ukraine and $700 per maui citizen. well, let me just tell you. you have been to hawaii. i have been to hawaii. we know how inexpensive everything is over there you have to ship everything in, do you know $700 goes a long way. you can buy. >> laura: water. >> carton of milk, six eggs, four eggs, one flip flop, you know, it's going to help a lot. >> laura: rob, when you see their reaction to this, you know, kind of a hillbilly guy doing this song, bare bones production.

just catches on. it's a cultural moment. what's your reaction to how the left responds to this starting digging up his youtube play list? >> he used to root for the underdog. now you have a guy who came out of nowhere and a guy who has nothing and that, you know, and all of a sudden to try to destroy him or try to take that down as some kind of right wing, it's an ugly hit. it really is a ugly place to come from. but it doesn't surprise me because i do think like it's very interesting that the democrats now seem to be the censorship party, the war mongering party. and the biden administration they want to control, you know, how you cook, what car you drive now. what a.c., what air conditioning you can have. i don't know what kind of louvre you can use. eventually what kind of control. censor you, say something the tech companies don't want you to say on social media, you are out. why shouldn't they try control what you can hear and listen to and what you get to watch and what you get to enjoy.

and then if it's something outside of what liberal intelligentsia wants you to watch, well we will have to undermine it or destroy it. like you said, it's not going to work. the people are going to watch what he want this to watch. i think can you try to congeal people all you want, at the end of the day, if it speaks to you, like this song does, i mean, people are going to come around. if it makes money. that's one thing they won't ignore in hollywood, if it makes money. if it makes money then they will come around very quickly. you will see four or five of those guys in the n next couplef months, beards, red hair, the whole deal. >> laura: if he had a different anthem he watt was singing about a transition of sorts, that would have been a moment where he would have the whole rupaul would be in on it. >> be on all the late night talk shows. it's nice because the late night talk shows you can take the jokes from each of them and replace them. that's the thing that's so amazing to me. i do think you are right though.

but, people have spoken. and people are going to watch what they want to watch. the idea that you can control everything, what they want to do is destroy everything that they don't agree with and start over in this imagined utopia that doesn't elks exist. you know how well imagined utopia work out. just ask chairman move or stalin. it will fall hopefully soon. people are going to watch what they want to watch. wherever they can get it. i hope people support eu7d artists who have a voice and saying something that reason natsd with them. >> laura: actress jennifer ainiseston i don't know what her politics is. pushing back on cancel culture. same over it. probably got canceled for saying that. is there in redemption. i don't know i don't put everybody in a harvey weinstein basket. rob, that was good to see from her. she is probably politically liberal. liberals used to be for free speech. they certainly used to be for

redemption. >> if you lisk to bill maher, bill maher is on the same page, he didn't realize the traditional liberalism hasn't changed for free speech, gay rights, women's rights, don't judge somebody by the color of their skin, what happens now that makes you a right wing fascist. doesn't go far enough now. that is the problem. but, i think with cancel culture, if you would sit down one on one. i sat down with bill maher and talked to him. he has a little trump syndrome thing going on. he is a moderate. can you talk to him. if you get in the room instead of demonizing everybody, let's talk. if you have a better idea. i'm going to adjust my opinion, my idea of belief system. it's a religion. if you dare oppose any of it or question it lindsey does a great job talking about that.

jeffrey, tucker. if you can get on one-on-one conversations. that's what is so good about the podcast you can have a long conversation. can you come on and realize we are not so far apart. i will say those algorithms push you in your own political echo chambers they will keep you there as long as they can. americans talk to each other they will realize there is that guy as i say in comedy special there was that flood in houston and boats were coming rooftops. are they weren't saying are you a democrat or republican up there? this is the republican boat. sorry. the democrat boat is coming soon. good luck with that it's kayak. better for the environment. >> laura: rob, the first guest on my radio show when i first started hosting radio and now i'm doing my podcast. first guest on my radio show like 18, 19 years ago, gavin newsom and then john kerry. i had bono. this was a different world. we had great time. we all could talk. that's how far things have changed. >> i don't know how well gavin

newsom can talk. he will never go on. please, if anyone is watching this and wants to see gavin newsom at his best. watch him with adam carolla and adam destroy him for five minutes. because when you really have to have ideas behind what you are doing. >> laura: hair gel. >> gavin newsom single-handedly destroyed that state with the super majority of democrats, you don't want a one party system. look at what happened in san francisco and los angeles. you cannot defend that in any way. so i wish -- i hope people make better choices in california and vote for people. at least get two parties back. that's all i ask. >> laura: all right, rob, as i said during the break you are looking at robert evans. you have a robert evans look going on. so come back any time. it's great to have you on tonight. >> all right. thank you, laura. >> laura: all right. up next, if you can't beat them. well, get them off the ballot. another type of canceling. that's the democrats' latest plan for trump. legal scholar jonathan turley is here, next. ♪

♪ >> the left is in a frosty panic. it's a real case of the. >> if our constitution means anything, laura, he will not be on the ballot. is he disqualified by the 14th amendment. >> presently he is indeed on the

ballot. >> i expect that there will be, if there needs to be, challenges to secretaries of states and others who are authorized for developing the ballots when that time comes. to keep him off. >> laura: okay. wait a second. didn't they go after trump for having a wacky legal theory that they thought was wacky after the last election? now who is offering the legal theories that are wacky? joining me now jonathan turley, professor of law at g.w. university. fox news contributor, professor. break this down to the layman out there. what on earth are they arguing it's larry tribe, it's former bush circuit judge mike l loud g that trump cannotting be on the ballot. explain that. >> quite frankly, i think this is the single most dangerous constitutional theory i have seen pop up in decades this is an argument under the 14th amendment donald trump can be

barred from running again, ever holding office in the federal government because he violated his oath. he supported an insurrection or rebellion. under the 14th amendment, you have this bar on federal office, if you supported or if you gave aid and comfort to an insurrection or rebellion. of course, that brings you to the original question. what was january 6th? in the view of many citizens, including myself it was a protest that became a right. it was not a rebellion or insurrection. but that's a matter of disagreement between citizens. donald trump hasn't been charged with insurrection. not even incitement. special counsel jack smith charged him with a variety of crimes like fraud. he notably did not charge him with even incitement. >> laura: right. >> in that second federal indictment. >> laura: professor, the people who claim to be the great protectors of democracy, tribe,

lewd dig, deval patrick. all these other people, are they not disenfranchising through this theory american people, millions and millions of them who would vote if he is the nominee for donald trump? isn't that anti-democratic? >> january 6th was many things, most importantly a desis he creation of our constitutional system many of us condemned that riot when it was occurring. i disagreed with donald trump. i criticized his speech while he was still giving it as part of the coverage. that doesn't mean that it was a rebellion or insurrection. one of the things i asked what exactlies what the plan in the military had already support wanted the transition most republicans had already supported it. the vice president supported it. all the courts supported it. so where was the plan for this

rebellion? we have a relatively small number of people who were charged and some convicted of a seditious conspiracy. that crime can be a conspiracy to stop legal proceedings. it's not synonymous with a rebellion or insurrection. there is a relatively small number of people that received that charge. donald trump was not one of them. so, this is -- this is a considerable reach in my view. and it's dangerous. it could not come at a worst time for this country. >> laura: jonathan, great to see you as always. thank you. the biden administration's latest gun grab? what is it? we're going to explain, next. ♪

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>> the biden atf has revoked the licenses of 122 gun dealers in the united states. that is more than a 350%

increase since 2021. joining me now is anthony navarro. and peter. anthony, you had your license revoked, but you were given multiple warnings? we have an echo. hold on. we will get back to you in a second. let's go to peter. what is going on with individuals reporting abuses in the revocation of these licenses given your experiences. >> it is politics. during my time at the atf, most of my time going after people involved in weapons incidents, the licensees were our

best friends. the tips we got came from the industry. that we are turning our backs on these partners is upsetting and from what i am hearing is it is badly affecting morale. our investigators feel like they are turning into clerks. the general feel is this is payback for the gun industry torpedoing the nomination of david, who was a darling of the gun control advocacy groups. this is unsustainable. we don't have the resources to go down this path and if they did, it would be ill-advised. >> let's get anthony in here. your license was revoked, you

were given multiple warnings, numerous violations. your reaction? >> my reaction is after that was over, i asked one of the agents a question about inventory and she told me this is 40% out of date and i asked her what i should do and she said you do the best you can and i said i can go to jail for doing the best i can. that is the lack of accountability we have. they are more concerned about compartmentalization and plausible deniability when you have an atf director that encourages silencers being put on social media, lock switches, which make pistols will auto and the atf is running operations but they don't have any way of getting these items back. that is what we have to deal with. if the dmv was the atf, they are

trying to put all drivers out of driving their car. the atf has no other purpose than to take our guns away. >> that is terrifying. the dealers are one of the first lines of defense. >> i can't tell you how many times we turn away things because it is the right thing to do. putting machine guns on the market is not about public safety. from bad comes good and i wrote

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