(jen) it's not just a network. it's enterprise intelligence. (vo) learn more. it's your vision, it's your verizon. breaking news we've gone covering. officials in pittsburgh are instructing people to avoid the city's garfield neighborhood due to an extremely active shooter. the scene is active at this time. nearby children's hospital is on

lockdown. law enforcement currenting aiding the situation. pittsburgh state police have not been told to go there, but are taking units anyway so they can help. there have been injuries of those sheriffs deputies, but by broken glass, not bullets is what we're being told fchl that changes, we'll let you know. i want to bring in rich edson who has been watching this for 45 minutes. >> police are still saying avoid this area and stay out of the area. active shooter situation. what we're beginning to piece together and this is early in the situation, details are fluid. what we are learning and hearing from authorities and police,

this was attempt to serve an eviction notice. sheriffs approached this home and the shooting started. police started alerting people to get down and out of the area. we were hearing from local reporting that no police officers or sheriffs have been shot. some injuries due to broken glas with running around and shooting and glass breaking in the area. they are telling peep toll stay out of here and set up perimeter. we have seen video of the fbi on the scene, swat team and police officers as this standoff is ongoing thchl is a residential area. it is across the street from a cemetery and a children's hospital half mile away. the individual is accounted for and there is no threat.

enhanced security is on campus. massive police presence after shots started an hour ago. a standoff unclear how many people are involved inside the home. we don't know any of that at this point, only an attempt to serve an eviction notice turned into gunfire and the scene you have before you. >> harris: we will come back to you as you gather more details. bring in retired inspector paul mauro, joining me by phone. last hour you said the goal is to keep the situation going as long as you can to negotiate as long as you can to make the situation safer. you heard and i repeated last hour from children 's hospital n pittsburgh said the person had been accounted for. that doesn't mean he's in

custody. your take? >> >> paul: all this activity indicates he is not in custody and there is concern. the hospital put out statement to reassure people under their purview. you have residential area that seems to be locked down and that is trouble some. you have the end of summer here and what do you have? you have kids around, right? there are families, kids, this is a residential area and people are going in and out. police are locking the situation down so eaggress is kreled. last thing you want is cars going through an alley or side street into the line of fire. this person doesn't seem to be

reticent to shooting. >> harris: i want to share this, this was about 30 minutes ago, they were telling people to stay away from windows and hunker down. law enforcement was pinned down, here is brand new video that has just come in of the gunfire from the active shooter situation. [shots fired] >> harris: wow, that upward of in the teens, close to 20 rounds in that short period of time.

paul mauro. >> paul: sounds like a lot of rounds and heavy rounds. >> harris: they do. pawk troublesome. the nightmare situation in situation like this is that you have somebody who has far more ammunition than the police do. we have seen this happen early on in this event. >> harris: you said that last hour and said some communities don't want the police to have what a need to fight a situation like this. this is a gun fight in progress or has been in the last hour and we're hoping that situation doesn't continue. hope is not a strategy, come with what you have. how could one person outgun an entire police department? >> paul: first blush of the event, use new york city, police

that respond, they respond with the side arm pistol they have, nine mill meritocracieses they have on gunbelts. they don't drive around with a shotgun in the car. that is a decision that has been arrived at after much discussion. how much firepower do you want to have visible and forward deployed because people in america, very much in the d.n.a. of the country, we don't want a militarized police, it goes back to british occupation, the idea that the police department is not perceived as occupying army is considered a lot on municipal police level. there is continuum of, a range of police departments with how much firepower they bring to

bear. they generally defer to les rather than more, you need to have big guns available and that is going on now. >> harris: early reports, when this broke 45 minutes ago, swat team was showing up with long guns. they didn't have what they needed. have you seen the crime in new york city? cops with side arms only will be outgunned. this is bigger conversation for another day. we don't have details how many individuals are there, it is reported an active shooter in singular terms. we'll go with what the police sdppt children's hospital is saying. they say he is accounted for issue not necessarily in custody. paul mauro, we appreciate upon your expertise.

your last quick thoughts? >> paul: one thing they will do now, they have luxury of time, learn as much as you can as quickly as possible about the person you are dealing with. hopefully there is just one person and there are no hostages. the fbi will be helpful, they can gather a profile quickly off name and dob. police departments can do it well, fbi can tell you if they traveled, their pas port status and you can get a good snapshot of who it is quickly thchl is advantage of having federal equity. if i'm running this scene, one thing i'm doing, have somebody deputized to be my intel officer. i want to know who i'm dealing with before we make contact even if there is not a hostage, you will have a host negotiation

type situation rather than storm the building and do something that is dangerous. >> harris: paul mauro, important and great to get your expertise, when you tell us about sidearm rules and laws and different municipalities, you know what you are speaking. we pray for the people of pittsburgh and the garfield neighborhood to bring this to a close quickly without anybodiel getting hurt. should sheriffs deputies have been injured as windows were blown out and they were hit by glas. we'll stay on the story and update you as we get updates. we want to turn our attention to tonight's big news, highly anticipated debate on fox. we are just a few hours away from a major turning point in the race for the white house and

eight republican candidates are making last-minute preparation and warming up for pfizer forum, you are watching "outnumbered," i'm harris faulkner here with my co-host kayleigh mcenany and tammy bruce, leslie marshall and douglas murray. we are now getting a sneak peek at what the debate stage will look like later to not tonights. we know how the eight will be lined up with ron desantis in the center, florida's governor. he will take center stage alongside surging candidate vivek ramaswamy and now candidates are expected to focus on pressing issues plaguing meshes under president biden

leadership. poll found 38% of americans consider the economy to be america's greatest issue right now, next closest answer is border crisis and immigration at 11% and found 80% of americans to be in poor or only fair shape. now fox news digital took to the street in milwaukee before the debate tonight asking voters which gop candidates they are most forward to watching tonight on the debate stage? >> i have not made my mind up who i want to support, i like to hear from all the candidates. >> i think everybody, ramaswamy is bringing a different energy and vibe. nice to see somebody les than 50 running for president. >> i think chris christie, he is out spoken. >> scott. >> pence will be cool under

pressure. >> desantis has experience. nikki haley is somebody i've enjoyed watching, looking forward to the debate. >> harris: kayleigh, "new york times" has an interesting piece and its what will shapeed with's gop debate, the nine things. things like can tim scott stay the happy warrior? can desantis restart? can ramaswamy live up to the hype? how do policy shape the debate? what is on your mind >> kayleigh: those questions are the questions, that is lucid,ainal sis and they are spot on. talk about tim scott yesterday and mike pence and what i hear from their campaign. tim scott will emphasis his biography and mike pence has experience, he has won two

debates. talk about the guy at center stage, i just got off the phone with the desantis campaign, they do not have to craft talking points. they said our governor has best conservative record in the country and that is hard to argue with. glenn youngkin is excellent governor. they are going to bring that and extract out and say here is what we will bring to the white house with proactive vision. expect to hear about joe biden, you are going to hear about biden from them and they expect to be hit, at center stage, get people punching right back because he is a fighter and they will be bringing his biography in the same way tim scott will bring his, emphasizing as you talked to the first lady, the fact he's a veteran, got a

bronze star, volunteered after 9/11, he is a father. center stage is what you will hear to not. >> harris: and casey desantis said that uniform turned her head. and vivek ramaswamy, look at the live stage, you have ron desantis in the center and you have in second place vivek ramaswamy. >> douglas: the question is can he live up to the hype that existed around him? i've known vivek for some years, he is impresive figure. it is float to get name recognition and suddenly he's broken through, third place. sometimes toe to toe with desantis in the poll numbers and nobody saw that coming. he's had eshg normous amount of attention, he's got that attention, there will be people

gunning for him, as well as for desantis. >> harris: right now nikki haley has been gunning for him, tammy bruce. he said the car is broken for 25 years, don't you want a new take on things? it will be interesting. >> tammy: that is a weak point, too, his unusual foreign policy opinion regarding israel and otherwise. this is why debates are important, you hear them from ads, or playing tennis without your shirt on. they have to deal with pressure, be asked questions, are you going to do it in a funny way, a nice way, will you appear harsh or angry? the best advice is for people to be themselves. that is what americans care about, what is this person and this is why the campaigns are

important, how are they going to behave under pressure when they get angry or if something is funny. nikki haley has a wonderful international performance history. i did not have much anticipation for anything she would do be chosen to be un ambassador, my god, did she deliver. that was a big surprise for me who this woman is, i'm looking forward to seeing what she will do on the stage, beyond going after people. she started, but in context, what is she proposing? where does she stand? you want happy talk, optimistic policy point about what to deliver and what is needed. >> harris: talk about chris christie. certainly liked on the left issue he's done media on the left, all of them have really.

chris christie has been most oppositional to donald trump. that is his calling card. he is that and represents that, that is distance fro positively moving the country. or is it? >> leslie: some people are vying for vice presidency -- >> harris: that would not be chris christie. >> leslie: i agree. chris christie, i'm thinking of the song slim shady -- >> harris: because vivek has been rapping. >> leslie: no, will the real chris christie stand up? chris christie is doing something everybody needs to do, not talking about attack, stand out from the crowd. these individuals are not that far apart and need a democratic debate or republican debate to show the voters why me, why do you want me.

you have to stand apart and like ability, they have opportunity to do that. >> harris: going back to that nine questions that the "new york times" asked and as look at the board, candidates introducing themselves might doug burgum. how do you introduce yourself? >> douglas: it really is hard, i feel sorry for these guys, in a way. they are coming from nowhere and have to tell the nation their own story and have to -- >> harris: even asa hutchinson. >> douglas: i think so, struggling at 1%. something tammy said, there is a question throughout the debate, i can't wait to see this.

you read the poll about the priority of the american people and economy is number one. nikki haley, enormous respect, but known for foreign policy person. >> harris: she was twice governor of south carolina. >> douglas: she can definitely run on that. if there are certain things you are known for and can play to and particularly well on foreign policy stage, but not a foreign tells election, what do you do? there is need for each candidate to say where they stand on issues. >> kayleigh: abortion will be big, that matters in iowa and south carolina. >> harris: give us a taste of the difference. >> kayleigh: tim scott, most pro-life willing, i will sign. that is hugely popular with republican voters, maybe not in

a general election, but have him pushing other candidates, how far will you go, it is push to the right no doubt. >> harris: pop your corn, first republican debate on fox news live in milwaukee 9 p.m. eastern, martha maccallum and bret baier will be moderating, donbas miss a second. from afghanistan to east pale palestine, ohio and hawaii, maui in particular, president biden behavior lacks empathy. i don't know, did we expect it? he said he would have it, media defending him. d behind his name is for defense.

>> kayleigh: the liberal media is determined to defend president biden as empathizer and chief, pushing empathy narrative since he took office. biden's empathy matches him to this moment. do you remember this gushing moment? how could you forget on cnn day before inauguration. >> it is almost like extensions

of joe biden's arms embracing america, a moment where the new president came to town and convened the country in this moment of remembrance outstretching his arms. >> kayleigh: how sim pathetic can you be? pretty bad. president biden action speak louder than words with empathy. he was seen checking his watch during a ceremony for the 13 marines killed during his botched with deter afghanistan withdrawal. he promised to visit in february, to this day, he has not set a foot there. deadly wildfire swept maui,

president byted relaxing on a sunny beach and when asked about it, had nothing to say. >> mr. president, any -- >> will you talk about the hawaii response, mr. president? >> no, not now. >> no comment, not even my heart goes out to the family. biden made sure to take a few vacation days before visiting hawaii. he was there for just hours and went right back to his vacation in the lake tahoe mansion. the media still covering for biden. >> he did serve as empathizer and chief after being silent on the issue. he was assuring feds had their back. he shared stories of losing

daughter and wife and wondering if his sons had survived. that is what people are going through now. >> kayleigh: douglas, he hit the ground of maui, potentially then00 lost, 114 at this point. and he talked about his car vet. >> douglas: this is not new, he's been like this for decades. when he needs to address a situation, he talks about his own experience, that is not empathy, it is saying, i suffer, look at me. another problem issue left wing media keep tripping. empathizer in chief. this is not one that is good. the commander-in-chief doesn't have to be most empathetic

person in the country. i think the left wing media have itself in a fix demanding something the president doesn't -- >> harris, the difference is empathy was joe biden's mo. i will vote for the guy because he seems to care. this has been his mo, it is facade. >> i feel like he's retired now. unexpected inevitable retirement and this is what unplanned retirement looks like, you quit before you are done with the job. big part of the job, is empathy, it is because countries go to war and it is really inkcumbent upon a president to be able to say, i feel your pain. even bill clinton figure it out in the midst of everything

politically going on. barack obama say sang "amazing grace" and you saw george w bush and to the best of ability after 9/11, fighting for the cause, i'm here with you. i don't know this man has that gear and i said yesterday, pathological narc nar sacyst. he is retired, he's done. the question for the left, is kamala coming? if you vote for this guy, are you voting for kamala harris and are you voting for that? you better fight more than each other. ronna mcdaniel is right about that. >> kayleigh: she is, i go back to maureen dowd, her sister is a

republican and wrote a letter she was not immune to the irish charm of joe biden and she met him at a media party and was turned off when he didn't acknowledge one of his grandchildren. if there are thousands in the country, this could be key deciding issue. i think it could move votes. >> leslie: i disagree, obama got criticized for singing that song and it was beautiful, in my opinion. her sister is a republican, republicans will not vote for him, democrats will vote for him and that is reason i don't think whether empathy or not and definition of empathy i think i'm a bit like joe biden.

i tend to try to connect with people, if somebody lost a childlike i have, moved all over the country, married somebody from a different ethnicity, i am like, me, too. top 10 things most important, empathy is not on the list. >> kayleigh: economy is on the list. >> leslie: it is. >> kayleigh: he lost eight points on empathy, economy is under the water. >> tammy: part of the job of republicans, we need to be where they stand. empathy has something to do with every part of the job that when you think about what you do in the impact on the economy, what is this going to do to average person, cost of food and energy. heating oil or wintercomes up or

placating far left of your party. what they keep saying, bidenomicses is great, they forgot know aban bandoned. afghanistan, ignoring gold star moms, monetary policy, economy, all about people sitting yearn thinking about how is this affecting the average american? are we making this whole country better and bigger and healthier or not? when you are not thinking about people other than yourself, that goes out the window. >> kayleigh: think about oliver anthony, rich men do not empathize with plight of millions. >> harris: not delaware, either, that is not in the song.

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>> president biden: we are working on covid, but the pandemic is over. nobody is wearing masks, everyone is in good shape, it is changing. >> kayleigh: that was president biden declaring the pandemic is not over, it appears it is making a comeback. >> kayleigh: morris brown

college requiring people to mask up indoors and despite small uptick in covid cases, making case for masking again, even in your own home and so is dr. fauci. >> this pandemic is over culture we are aware of. when i'm at the airport, i see people laughing at me. what are your thoughts on that? >> we are not done with covid-19, we know that.

-- the flu, this is we're going to have, covid will always be around like head colds and flu, sometimes it will affect some people worse than others. imagine college saying you can't come to college unless you take a flu shot. i'm allergic to a medical

preservative, i can't take the flu shot. i've never had one. whatever it is new variant is, can you discern from the common head cold? this is not the original covid and being moved to reinforce needing people to comply. >> kayleigh: personal choice, wear a mask or take a vaccine, do it, but to disenroll a student. >> harris: add georgetown university to the list of masking. it goes to science, if you have a precondition, one of the first three or four, probably exist for flu, too. if you're diabetic, if you are

overweight, you will probably have a problem with your immune system, do everything you can. that doesn't mean everybody has to or you get to legislate what we do. you can't. it is proven the vaccine does not protect you, it protects me. when we talk about the flu, we don't lock down. h1n1 will kill you quickly, but we don't do that, but we do it with covid, it is in the nomen clatture. how do we break thes bonds of that? >> kayleigh: we played sound bites yesterday of the president saying if you don't take this, you will pay, he sounded like a

mobster thachl probably hurt a lot of people considering taking the vaccine. >> leslie: i think most people have taken the vaccine or not. i want to empathize with you, me and joe biden, i can't take the flu shot, i'm immunocompromised. i wore a mask yesterday, not just because people are coughing, i didn't know there was an uptick. six people in six days issue meeting, brunch, lunch, got covid, can't meet. what is going on? that is why companies and schools are making this decision and they are afraid. >> kayleigh: i don't think we are past the mandates employing we are not past this.

>> douglas: i'm in the i'm not complying category. i do not comply. i will not comply with another mask mandate until such a time as health authorities point out fact that young people are least likely to be affected and most deadly for people who are overweight. i will not submit to across the nation mandate to wear a mask virtue of which are highly debatable if authorities are noting honest about this. they subjected a lot of overweight people, they covered the facts and they did not do that. >> harris: plus we've had a hes wave, people are indoors like on a cold winter. >> kayleigh: where was the

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>> my moment now the dnc set to hold a press conference in milwaukee ahead of tonight's first gop debate. president biden is not expected to respond as he vacations in lake tahoe and his name will probably be brought up many times tonight. and how should candidates introduce themselves to voters tonight. we'll ask marc thiessen and charles payne on the enormous cost of home ownership in the country today. what salary do you need today to make to afford an average home in america. come join john roberts and me live as "america reports" top of the hour. >> i mean, who cancels her? a hollywood mega star is now taking a stand against cancel culture. i mean, she's beloved. actress star jennifer aniston

made the comments with the wall street journal magazine. she says today's society needs more room for second chances telling the magazine i'm so over cancel culture. i probably got canceled for saying that. i don't understand what it means. is there no redemption? i don't know. i don't put everybody in the harvey weinstein basket. wow, i see you nodding. why. >> she's so right, so glad a star of her megawattage said this. actresses have been so quiet as the industry was ransacked a few years ago, she's right. everybody ended up in 2017 put in the harvey weinstein category and it was not the case. kevin spacey has been found not guilty in british courts and american courts, but his career has been destroyed. how many people even know that he was found not guilty in those cases, and that in fact the career of one of the best and most loved actors in america was ransacked for no reason.

and as jennifer aniston says, where is the forgiveness? it should be possible for people to say look, we made a mistake, come back, we need your talent. >> you are going to have the name harvey weinstein, no, no redemption as the victim i would say that, but johnny depp another one, although he's coming back and i think the same with kevin spacey. look, not all men, certainly, or women, you know, are all, you know, harvey weinstein and men should not be afraid to work around women. but easy to say when you are in the castle as jennifer aniston is how things are from there. it's different than a woman working in a factory than jennifer aniston. >> i think over in france interesting response by one of my favorites, catherine denuev, she was saying the same thing. the pursuit of a partner, pursuit of women, the dance of courtship. how is all of that, you know,

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for sure ♪ ♪ i'm just down on my knees ♪ ♪ begging the lord ♪ ♪ take me home ♪ >> love that. the song closes with this bible verse, for what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul. it has been streamed 1.4 million times on spotify. i heard this last night, harris. i thought it was so powerful, i read oliver anthony was dealing with some mental and alcohol issues and got on his knees and gave his life to god and came out with this beautiful song. we know what he means by i wanna go home. >> i had six flights in 72 hours working on families in focus this week and i can tell you that that's what i've been listening to. everything he's written, so much of it and all is soul jarring and you connect to it. >> better not cancel him. >> he wrote on facebook like those once wandering in the desert we have lost our way from

god and let false idols distract us. >> one of my favorite, a crucial verse, it says tell the truth, don't lie, don't lie, because if you go down one lie you'll do another and before you know it you've lost your soul. >> there is no doubt he is telling the truth, and millions are recognizing it. what a powerful song. go listen to it, everyone. watch the debates tonight. "america reports." >> sandra: thank you, ladies. active shooter in pittsburgh with a swat team and the fbi responding to the scene. live pictures in pittsburgh. hello, welcome, sandra smith in new york. >> john: john roberts in washington, this is "america reports." debate day, sandra. people nearby the situation are being evacuated from their homes. sheriff's deputies were serving an eviction notice and he opened fire and barricaded himself. >> sandra: a half mile awa