it's an honor to be here. joe biden has weakened america at home and abroad. the disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan, the war on energy, runaway spending launched the worst inflation in 40 years, a crisis at our southern border, an assault on our values and liberties. >> and the american people have had enough. >> but i know we can bring it back. but different times for different leadership. the republican party owes the american people a choice. >> proven leadership at , the national level that knows how to move a conservative agenda forward. >> we proved in the trump pence years, you can turn this country around faster than you can imagine. and i have faith we will again, because i have faith in the american people. >> good, decent, hardworking, faith filled, idealistic people in this country. and i have faith that god is not done with america yet. and if we all renew our faith in one another and renew

our faith in him, who has ever guided this nation, we arrived on this world and assures i know the best days for greatest nation on earth are yet to come. >> thank you, mr. ramaswamy. i was born in 1985 and i grew up into a generation where we were taught to celebrate our diversity and our differences so much that we forgot all of the ways. >> we are really just the same as americans bound by a common set of ideals that this nation into motion in 1776. and this is our moment to revive those common ideals. god is real. there are two genders. fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity. reverse racism. racism and open border is not a border. >> parents determine the education of their children. the nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to man. capitalism lifts us up from poverty. there are branches of government, not four and

the u.s. constitution. >> it is the strongest guarantor of freedom in human history. that is what one us, the american. that is what will win us. the revolution of 2024. >> thanks for letting me introduce myself tonight. thank you, governor sanders. governor, this is our time for choosing. >> we will send biden back to his basement and we will reverse the decline of this country. i'm a blue collar kid. i work minimum wage jobs to be able to make ends meet. i understand the importance of the american and i know how that slipped away from so many millions of americans will restore it. i'm a veteran who served in iraq. i know what it means to put above self. i'm also a dad and a husband to six, five and three-year-old. i understand the importance of protecting parents rights and the well-being of our children in florida. we showed it could be done.

i made promises and i delivered on all of those promises. 2024 is make or break. we're not getting a mulligan. no excuses. i will get the job done. and as your president, i will not let you down. god bless you all. we want to say thank you. thank you to all the candidates on the stage tonight. and thank you to milwaukee. thank you, everybody. we will see you on the campaign trail. from debates to primaries, the general election and the conventions before that. >> thanks for joining us, sean hannity from the spin room starts right now. take away john dickerson. all right. well, thank you both, by the way. great job, martha and brad. welcome to "hannity"rtha and. ea the very first debate of the 2024 campaign is now on the books. in tthe election season is officially up and running. and tonight, we're broadcastin g live from the spin room. we are in beautiful milwaukee, wisconsin, whereee in just a moment, we're going to hear directly from the candidates themselves. floridy fra governor desantis.e

he will be joining us. vache ramos twomey will join us. tim scott, nikki haley. we wummwithouction fro trump supporters. but without a doubt, every t t, everysingle republican run. >> guess what? they are far more articulatee and, ethical than your current president. you know, the compromised cognitiv you knowe mess that is joe biden. and tonight that was more than very obvious and transparent in case you missed it. here's how it all went down. a quick look all o. s >> we cannot succeed as a country if you are working hard and you can't afford groceries, a car or a new home while hunter can make hundreds of thousands of dollars on lousy painting os. >> now is our moment to startnn running to something. ing tohad enough already tonighf a guy who sounds chatgpt.ng up he stands uphe here and give me

a hug. just extended on mlike ity. >> this is exactly what margaret thatcher said. if you want something, ask a man. if you want something done, ask a woman. the american done, are the most faithful, freedom loving, idealistic, hard working people the world has ever known. we just need a government >> good as ourneed gov people. >> it is time for a changen in america. >> so who are tonight's winnersr losers? s here with reaction. fox news contributor kellyanne tributor trump, white house chief of staff, former rnc chairman reince prieburman all right. not our first rodeo. the thing that stood out r od the s getting into the specifics, who won, who lost? we'll let everybodpe y at home make those decisions. >> what really stood out to me is what a contrast this partythp is to this guyar in white housee i don't care if it's borders. i don't care if it's ukrainef ii i don't care if it's energy. i don't care if it's lawic and order. >> foreign policy on every

single issue. america is going to have a choice election. hear that. and i think one thing they agreed on, america is in decline under joe biden. >> they all made the casend the and they haven't been making the case too strongly. sean. they'vy ae going after donald trump more than joe biden. and to make yourself trulya electable, you have to transport yourself in a split screen against joe bident . and to do that, you take him on on all these issues. there's no major policy issue right now. the 12 that are tested routinely whert noe joe biden's approval rating is above water, he's underwater. he can't point to anisy issue and say, that's my signature accomplished. that's where people see me tog to say nothing of and his personal attributes. in addition to the substantive policy issues. every single republican on the stage tonight and presidentt trump, who wasn't there, have higher personal attributes they meaning cares about people like me, has a plan for the country and mental acuity and towards people of maui. when he showed up two weeks later after saying any commente. ? comment. i don't want to be a distraction on the ground.

i dowant to actione, nothing on the ground to distract from. >> by the way, could the democrats ryan and shawn,mot could they even find eight people to be on the stage tonight? they don'ts ight peo be on muchh all. i mean, this is all the undercard right now. trump'e --s beating every single one of them, every single poll in every single state and nationwidee of. and they're running for number two. look, i thin i think nikki is going to get a second look from some people based on some stuff she said tonightom on abortion.h i'm very pro-life, but i like what she said, that you don't you dodemonize or punish women. that's important. we have to see babies and serve womeat we hamen.n. the people who love jake are maga people. they're voting for trump and the people have a problem with him tonight are not going to vote for him. they'll think he's inexperiencedpeople. mike pence is aggressive. chris christie did his amnesty and debater thing. s own. i think desantis held his own. he didn't have enough time really to differentiate, but he delivered in a different way than he usually does. wao i think he had a very. strong open. >> the interesting thing when i do my audience shows, i'll wh them every night and those that like president trump, they also like to correct. >> yeah.

and i think that every one of these folks on stage tonight, they're going to where -- w're going to win or lose tht debate is going to be in thisro room right behind us. om r and every one of them hadery on a moment. >> every one of them can clie op something that they've said, a one liner, their position on something they're goingttra to use to attract voters, attract money. and look, as you were sayingct t before, joe biden is not just doing a horrible job as butth the proof is in the pudding. he's 20 points worse todayg. s in his approval rating than he was in 2020. so when people debat0. so whee well, who can beat joe biden? can trump beat joe biden and?e can can desantis beat joe by woe joe biden is 20 points worse. and this election comes down icv to 100,000 votes in five states. that's it. >> we're talking razor thin margin in your state of wisconsin will be critical and we're here if there's any republican that's going to have >>g presidencyalways ,they always have to run h the table. wisconsin is a big part of thaet . in wisconsin was won less than 0.7% of the vote in 2016.e: a

ndand 2020.about it comes down to about 20,000 votes for. >> and, you know, i think, e toi you know, this debate tonight was was a great debate. >>gh every one of these folks t are better than joe biden. >> unfortunatelyjo. d i also think and it's a little harsh to say and i didn'to sa want it this way,her. i wanted donald trump to be here, but i think he probablink he py the right dn after seeing tonight. because tonight, why do you sa t . >> because i think it looked? a little bit as an undercard debate tonight . nd i thi and i and i think that notha having the prize fighterhaving d i think not having donald trump on that stage took down the temperature a little bit, made it a little less, i think, attractive. and i think that i think that he probably the right decision. but the other candidates i mean let's be hones d the otht, this out 95% of the oxygen for the entire campaig n. >> they should have been happy that this was a moment for them to get their opinions across

and introduce themselves, like in the case of the fake ramaswamy, you know, who am i? >> why am i here? but who is going to take a a percentage of the vote from donald trump after tonight and maybe they can do it. maybe they can spin it outma their way. but the question is anybng spids is dishonest. donald trump, is it 55%? what percentage of that 55% thee are one of these other people is going to people going to take from o pto take ? >> that's really the question here, sean. it's that he's got thesetion he. four different indictments. he's got. he wasn't here at the debate. if the polls don't move appreciably after thisls don't,f it's hard to know what any of can . an do to effectuate it now, i was like you.i wa i wanted president trumpnt to com e to the debate. i believe in direct democracy. this is a sweet spot, this natural habitat. we want to hear from him. but if the point of this debate was to introduce yourself to voters, you don't duce you know, you he's the most popular person on the political personen on the planet, best known. and number two, he's got anf tonight.lishme

mike pence tried to say thesent are the trump pence accomplishments. so he didn't need to be herei ra for that. i think it was smart in the end for him, notend to come becausee he they proved that withoutas him, without him, it's not as exciting. it's not exc as animated. you kn and you know what, gentlemen? they all talked a goodowynne, ti him and they hardly laid a glove on him. tonight, they're going to pretendd h they wanted to ignore him, but they did that because they know that that trump,alie you're alienating his voters. you can't do thana his vt. and that's a big part of the base. we're at a weird inflectio nhow point, i think, thoughdo, forria the country. how does america reconciles re and i think this is really key, how do you reconcile securing the borderhow dos or joe's polis of what, in three years ofn letting maybe 8 million illegal ille, how you reconcile climate alarmism with the belief that we should be energy and independent, energy dominant? how do you reconcile and order versus defund, dismantle the police? how do you reconcileorefine and

, you know, and school choice versus, you know, catering to thehers teachers unions or foreign policy and ukraine? e mi i don't see middle ground. one side's going to widdn in november of 2024. one side is going to lose. right. and, you know, we'reing to we're living in a zero sum game in politics wher e moving 40, 50,000 votes in five states is the difference between winning or losing the entirediffereninna college. we're going we're we've become a country playing ping pong between republicans and democrats in complete republican control, complete democrat control, back and forth and. it's like night and day. the other thing is that division is very profitable in americais veric as long as ye dividing, you're making money. and when you're and, you know, andunity a loser, unfortunatel. and that's where we are it's a very divided country. >> and i don't know how to fixry it. >> we have to bank those votes. early, too. >> sglad the rnc has the rnc dra glad president trump has endorsed it. >> the next thing you have to de illegal balloave

ballot harvesting game. >> correct. great to see you bott harvh. you bet. love the people in your state. really wonderful. all righ t. ot of by the way, we'll be talking to a lot of the candidates in just a moment. th in just moment.but first, fo, we bring in the host of the ingraham angle. ore reacbring t of thethe band r the one and only laura ingraha.i . you know, you know, i was watching you with bill hemmer and dana perinngo, and you said something i've always believed that debates often about moments. and i thought at different timeferent ts of the candidatesd a moment tonight. >> what did you think? idi agree with you, sean. look, i think it's a starting sort of backward s. i think nikki haley wasth the best establishment candidate. you knowe best, she had some zi, but was it good enough to kind of justify fort wa most ofectore the electorate a lot more money that ukraine probably not. i think in the end, i mean, christie is always the best talker. ies ys the bhe's probably the br up on stage. but it just actually with the republican electorate, it's desantis vivek ramaswamy.

but after the end of whole debate, did any of them really make the case to thee american people that they're better they wouldto win be better than trump to win the nomination? t i that's a hard one. you know, having moments that's one thing, but actually having a record to rurecord tn on and , i did this when i was president, the only one that comes close is desantis. and i think he got better as the night went on. he started off maybe a little toonight we stern, buth night got on and that night went on, i think he got better and better. so i think desantis and vacheon and the pile on on vivek ramaswamy with with nikki haley and chris christie. >> are you going to santos? well, let me ask you this. they say you got better as it went on. i thought his opening answer, very powerful. and that ithe gu

of like chris christie or eisa. yeah most of the guys on thiyss stage would would point this country in a totally different direction with, i believe,fit ev conservative policies that would benefit everery american right. you're right, sean. obviously, this is a obvia repu, though, are ri right? so there are differences in the republican party. the old establishment, there more represented by someone like a mitch mcconnell. reviously, he's a very smart he's done a lot of great things. but is he the future of the party? what is he ture of the so. i think, again, vivek and a young guy and ron desantis as still young with an incredible, vin record as governor., th those two men to me stooosd out as. really the potential future of the party. is it enoughe to overcome trump? i'm i'm kind of with, you know ,know previous panel. i think that's going to be pretty that's going to be pretty tough. maybe things will change, bul ct again, i think the fake coming out and just taking on everyone

on that stage, that's pretty gutsy. tha prei mean, maybe some peope are annoyed by it, but i thought it was pretty gutsy. yi enjoyed it. i thought it was a i thought it was a fantastic, fantastic event tonight. i thought it added to the flavor of it for sure. you bet. lauren, great. how did i miss the handoff? i miss you attacking j me every night. >> it's great to see you. all right. thanks for putting on the tie formation. >> good to see you. you're very welcome. thanks for pointing it.nting out as usual. all right. joining us right here in the spin room, the man in thit l. thee ofrnor r the stage tonight, florida governor ron desantis. >> governor, how are you? good to see you. goodontis.govern to see you. >> you know, i thought she was saying that laura was saying that she felt you got stronger throughout the night. but i thought your ope n was particularly strong. and it's a message that mostng . americans believe this is a nation in decline. then you went intoen you w t american first policies, then you talked about ukraine. you knowhe, we're not securing our borders. why are we. why are we spendin g all of that money when europe won't even step up? >> yeah, look, i think tha up?t the nation's in decline, but

this decline is a choice. t and we're going to make this choice over the next 18 months. we can reverse that decline. toa we can restore america. i think it's similar to the latemeink it 1970s when jimmy cr was president. a lot of people said it was antf of limits. america wasn't going to be able to be great again. to be aband ronald reagan had. a different idea. so that's just, i think, what the averageso that is seeg in their own daily lives. and soves. in some respects, wen point out all the bad things and there's a lot of bad things. bee's a lot of badt i am optimin be done. >> you know why? because we did it in florida. cause everything i laid out in florida we accomplished and the state has boomed. ed in thwe can do the same thinr the u.s.. so that was a big part of your theme tonight. this is florida 2018. you had a pretty race. >> i was down in florida, governor, in that race, as you knowcovering, and then you comer back and four years later, you win by a record million and a half votes. that would be, i would think, validationick,, your governing skills for the state.

and you kept talking about, i will not let you down. explain. >> well, look, i think that there's a lot of people that get elected. >> a i think they under-deliver. when when times get really when toug timh, there's a lot of people that aren't going to stay stay in the fire. and when i did the f in particuy during covid. making sure the kids can be in school protectinvid,g businesse bu if your kids were back in schoolsi in august of 2020. and i got pilloried for that. but bun t whenau i my ground foh you, you can take that to the bank. th going to back down. i've taken on the left and the e democrats in media and we've beaten all those people. and i think that wen t in florida. >> part of the reason i did so well is because people they knew where i stood andy and they knew, look, if the governor says he's going to do something, he's going to do it. he doesn'ting, hng to do make it when he says it will do it. so i think that's the same thinhae g as.ol president, i'm campaigning on a bold agenda, but i am no t anything that i don't intend to follow through with. and so ilo when i talk about usg the military to take on the drug carteltake os, ds

they're killing tens of thousands of our citizens. we have every right to d of our. i'm going to do it. i'm not just going to get in office and say, forget about it. sot goin s get a -o people shouo now's the time to get it done. i think our country, if we get another four years of this, i don't know if we could bring it. >> if we recoverr country,. >> i really don't. so i'd be negligent if i didn't ask you. n of donalds questio, i can -- trump and it was about i said you and governor desantisns . i said, because you guys were friends. he didk stion of donald support you. >> and i supported him. i mean, i you know, we 201 i support him in 16, obviously. , they really do relied on me, you know, to do a lot in florida. i raised more money than him, any elected official in the country. i mean, i raised, you know, i meten, $15 million. w and we worked really hard to make sure the florida electionor ran really well. you know, we have the best election integrity in the country in florida and byn it w the way, there were two points when it wasn't the best. right. done. done. and so that's really important. and so and, you know, the thing is, is i mean, i kno thingw he attacks me a lot now, but that's just, you know, when i started to get steam forstarte

reelection, you know, he came out and started denying me, that's find that ie i don't thit he should do that. but it is what it is. but i do and i i ask him what happened. he did say i supported him. he faile whatd, is disloyal. >> what did you ever respond to that? no. here's the thing rno, here i, s. i'm loyal to my family, the constitution and the lord god. i i work with other politicianswo to advance a commorkn, but nobody's entitled to be endorsed. t. supported. you've got to earn that. and i would remind you, you know, he startedand attackg me before i even got in, before i even got reelected. he started even go do it. end so that's fine. but at the end of the day, we're going to we're going to dgoing o we need to do. >> let's ask about the the contrary social issue ofaboi abortion. and you signon. a six week bill, the heartbeat bill. >> nowt bail, look, i don't thik anybody really anticipated roe v. wade would be overturned . >> right. it would've been a matter of laws. whst republican justices have let us down over the years. goinven when dobbs was pending

a of people said, calvin, are they going to do it? and so so they did do it, itso thethough. >> they deserve credit. but it's an issue that went back to the states. do you support this more as a state issue or do you think it should be federal legislation? >> s iso i've said is one ourd is, heart b bill i'm proud oonf. it was the right thing to do. the reality in our country right now is is advancingci protections for life is bottom up. that's just the realitng it y bo on kind of the demographics and the public opinion and whatnogreont. and so you're not going to have wisconsin do what texas has be done. t than n just like iowa is going to be different than new hampshire. that's just wherjuste find ourselves. and so, you know, i'm going to be a stay a state issue, i'mr should federally there be a standard? well, look, if theret late is something to prevent like late term abortions that's bee-l done before, i mean, obviously, you know, as a pro-life president, i'm going to suppory. pointed that out, too. and i think this is key. there is an extreme radicaere il wing position of the government. ult get in the room with a patient and end a woman.

and that that position basically you can have an abortion up until the moment of birth and they will not a democrat politician if you ask them when does the chilrat polid get protectio? >> nine months. they will not give an answer. they don't. wetheyl t n point this out. the corporate media, the liberal media, they run interferencecorpor the for the . so they attack us forey being pro-life. and then they go to th ae democrats and act like the democrats aren't taking very, very extreme positionsthen >> i was glad you did fire those two prosecutors that refused to do their job. i though, t went over really well, and we did that nationally. >> i mean, these cities are wari zones in some of the places, some all because of leftist ideology. any place this ideology hasbeen been put in those cities are failing. i'm goinput ing clean it up as president. you're looking forward to gavin newsom ro. o get it's going to be fun. we got to get we got to getth the date and the venue and everything. got the date we're working on the venue part. >> that's really we have venuf thle piece of the puzzle left and i think we'll get it

done. i didn't want to bother him this week with all the the badd. th weather and issues of. >> yeah. now i'm going to. great to see you guys. thank you. thank you for being on.is thanks. okay. i beingrnt the one of the candidates took a lot of heat. tonight was a relative newcomer ,the republican party, self-described outsider. >> take a look. taso first, let me just address a question that is on everybody's mind at home tonighquis on evst. >> who the heck is this skinny guy with a funny last name the and what the heck is he doing in the middle of this debate stage? i'll tell you, i'm not a politician mnot bret.t that you're right about that. i'm an entrepreneur. my parents came to thi.an entre s with no money 40 years ago. i have gone on to foun ago.d multi-billion dollar companies. i did it while marrying my wife. a poori di va, raising our two,w sons, following our faith in god. that is the american dream. and i am genuinely worriedand that american dream will not exist fowit r our two sonst it. and their generation unless we do something about it. and i doi do think bret is going to take an outsider because for a long time we have professional politiciansn in te republican party who have been running from something. some. itinour momentg

>> start running to something, to our vision ofto it means to e an american today. >> if you a broken car, you don't turn over the keys to the people who broke it. >> again, you hand it over to aa new generation to actually fix the problem. that's why i'm in this race and we're just gettingthat i up >> all right. vivek ramo s, me, vivek, i'vei wa been calling you vivek. why didn't you correct me? i didn'tllin know.e cake well, you know, i mentioned a shot. that's okay. it's lik. n: you se, okay, you should have told me. i appreciate. best to do it on purpose. i appreciate best. all right. itnts interesting tonight. i thought you were an interesting position. you brought a lot of energerestd a smile and you seemed to be having fun up ther te on the ont one on stage not bought and paid for. >> ouch. c i thought they were. they were coming after you pretty good. kristie came back at you and said, oh, okay. you know, compared you to barack obama, a guy with a longp arlast and liberal, you know,l,y obviously. >> yeah. >> ai encouraged chris christie to give me a hug because he did that to barack obama.

and then actually, unfortunately, good luck charm for barack obama. but the realit lucy is everybod on that stage had been on a debate stage before. this is mybebate s first time ih political debate. and i am thrilled with how it came out how it over exceeded my expectation. frankly, even trump inr exceed r outsider last time around, i think a second debate was a lot better than his first. >> i ot right.- >> frankly, this this one, i think obviously, one of the reasons is you're very media savvy. you have a you have a warm and enticing personality. g smil you smile. politicians don't smile enough. they need to smile enough more. >> i'm not a politician. and honestly, it was fun. i hate to tell you, you're nowan officially a politician. months into being a politician, you're in six months. oncellya po you're inside, offin i'm going to have to cringe. but wear that label. g to havbut i do think, john,tok it's going to take an outsider. >> i do not think whether it's endinn't thing war in ukra, whether it's reviving this economy and the war i really do want to fight is the war on the administrative state and the shadow governmen admatin at home. that is not going to happen from somebody who comes from

the super pac class. it's not going to come from somebody who comes from the historical republican party . it is going to take an outsider. and the other thing, sean, that i thinhist it is go k is really important t in this election is that we're skating on thin ice. >> this haha are s to be a moralt mandate. this cannot be anotherbe 50.1d ' election. and i'm in this race to build a multiethnic, working class majority like reagan didc worki this has to be a landslide. young, old, black, white, hispanic, man, woman doesn't matter. i'm running this campaign that way. we're going to the south side of chicago, to kensington and the inner cityn thwe goiuth philadelphia, where republican candidates are taught not to go in a primar e republtold ny. but the reality is that's why i don't mention republicans and democratdon't mes on the stf and i'm a little different than the other candidates here because everybody else was focusethe othe herd on joe bide. and i think joe biden'sk a disastrous president. bujot i think the way we win ina landslide is we have to offer an independentoffer an of our o. >> and the more we do that, we the more likely to windo. >> there were a few shots, noter time for on the job training. you don't have that background

bad experience. you have an impressiveg. you do personalstory, story talking about your parents. my parents t about you. my mom was a prison guard. my dad really waited tables all weekend and it was a family court probation officer where you are now. >> you know, and by the way, they don't it and they're in heaven. >> so they're looking down saying, god, how did that happenbelieve in? >> my mom thought i'd be onr sie the other side of the prison. >> well, i think that's a remarkable thing, but it's a remarkable storystor that thatyo the fact that your story, the american story -, the extraordinary thing about our story, sean, is that they're not out of the norstorim they're normal in the united states of america. >> and you need to make that choice again. are you confident that you can convince the american people thapet, you know what, i've got enough experience that that can take care of thisf this country's needs? >> yes. and that is my job in this race. this is the first chance that i really had to introduce this i directly to the people.ei and i believe i will be the next nomineell. al i believe i will win the general election in a landslide that reunites this

country. >> and i think it's going to take someone to be donald trump. would you pardoni do ttake ->> >> no, i mean, it depends on ito don't want to be them right.thel the real heart of the problem with joe biden and hunter biden is thamoe bident believeio they're selling off our foreign policy to make money. and if that's provenlimoney. int of law, they should be in prison probably for the rest of their lifeably for. wil oh, i don't want to be them. so i will let the. i want to see an impeachment inquiry proceed. and if they're convicted in a court of law, absoluteed and i l they deserve full punishment for that. and the facts look pretty ugly to mt foe as.rett >> they stand. any time i mispronounce something, you have every right toe as correct me and i ws you would have earlier because but i appreciate your goode youn sense of humor. thank you, sean.of appreciate you being with us. thank you. all right. i appreciate. now, another candidate with some powerful moments tonight, south carolina senator tim scot humor with sot. k at >> take a look. we should be asking ourselves oe a question about the weaponization of the department oflva bigger justice. >> when i'm president, the first thing i'll do is fire merrick garlanfirstd singing me. i'll do fire. christopher wray because we

need lady justice to wear to th a blindfold. d without that, no one haswit confidence in our justice. 17% of republicans have confidence in our department of. justice. >> here's why we . >> keep seeing not only the weaponization of the department of justice against political opponents, but also against parents, buts who show t school board meetings. >> they're called under this do callej. >> they're called domestic terrorist. all right. joining us now, senator tim scott, senator from the great state of south carolina. >> how are you, my friend? i'm doing really well. glad to see linsey is not hereay for you. thank god that that's true. you're the stage tonight. >> how did you feel? i felt really good. i felt like i wanted to have a conversation, an adult conversation about whyonversat o for anyone what she's done for me. we need to focus on restorinr g, nities creating opportunities and protecting america. we didn' at spend enough timet h talking about the challenge we have at our southern borde

chal we didn't talk long enough h about the challenges that we have with chinave wia. it's not the strength of china. it's the weakness of biden. n that's the problem that we fa. as a nation. we nfed to dig into some o most important, consequential issues facing the americanentiao people and not have a foodon t fight on the stage. you knowhe , one of the things m that stood out to me is a point that i often make thate rage on average, the average american household is payingousr nearly 10,000 more for the same items that they were paying when donald trump left office on january 20th of your right, you know, 2021. so my poin>> seat is, and then you have 61% of americans living paycheck to paychec have 61%k and you have $54,000 average american debt. how do you climb out from under that or bare necessities? people thrown itm un on theirin credit card. that is real suffering. that's all a lot of self-induced because of biden's energy and economic policy. >> absolutely. of bideny aneconomicnumber one,w that energy security >>l, but it's alsos also

one of the parts of my tenur oe million new jobs madeere in america plan,we where we coud have 3 million new jobs in the energy sectotor. >> america would be the leading country on earth if we had a president who believed in our national resources. if we had that, we would rise to the top because we have more energy. when you add oil, gas and coal, africa, india are going to continue to see the carbonbes explode because they have tons and tons of people living in povertye d tons o. why not use our resourcer seeds to meet their needs and createsn gas back up to a $4 a gallon? ok month high? okay. 11 month high. and donald ig trump, his years as president, it never wentve t gaeeabove $3 a gallon, never reached $3 a gallolln in decembr of 2020. in south carolina, the gas price was a dollar and 99

cents. >> those are called the good >> s or the good old days. days. you can get them back, though. we have to have a president who believesthem bac in our ownv resources. okay. so you talkees ioud about direcy >> he's talked about merrick. garlanarlandd and rid of him. gt he said we'll get rid of no irs agents. we'll hire of no them for the b. >> absolutely. okay. r fb do you believe thaterder. our department of justice and our fbi have been politicized and weaponizedi . what is the main reason you would fire them? 100%. weey have weaponize. we know now that lady justice k wh longer can find the blindfold. when you watch what this department of justicen youe hase against political opponents, you would consider that unethicants, youl and when you k about what it's done to parents, just showing up and saying, i want my child educated not indoctrinated. you would call this department wo immoral. when you see a swat team show up at a pro-life activist home with guns drawn, you call that

immoral, irresponsible and unacceptableimmo. but we know as americans, we must trust our department ofs ue justice. it is un-american and unacceptablerican anand to e what joe biden, merrick garland and christopher wray has to the doj and most importantly, to the american people'sn confidence in the department of justice. >> by the way, i won't admit ment o publicly that when we had a throwing contest at the town hall that you threw further thro me. that's not that's justt going to come out of my mouth. >> absolutely not. i will keep it a secret. you. senator, always good to see you, my friend. thank you. appreciate it. all right. now, of course senator scottap wasn't the only candidate from the great state of south carolina on the stagpreciae. >> take a look.k. but we've got to get these kids reading. if t these ki child can't read by grade, they're four times less likely to graduatkelye high school. >> so we need to make sure weo bring in reading remediation all over this country. we need transparency in the classroom because parents should neversparencyuntry be tot being said or taught to their children in the classrooo m. parents need to be deciding which schools their kids a

to because they know best. and let's put vocationalnds pu classes into the high schools. let's teach our kids to build things againe . when we do that and we allowall that innovation, that's whenth y will get back. >> and yes, i will always say i'm going to fight for girls, im all day long because strong girls become, strong women, strong women become strong leaders and biological boys don' t belong in the locker rooms of any of us. >> how are you?g us all right. joining us now, former south carolina governor nikki hale cy is with us. >> governor, great to see you.ih how are you? have fun out there tonight. i did have fun. it was greater.e the one thing that stood out in my mind is what a difference t a diff ofg you ies joe biden and everybody on that stage. one thing you had in common. there are a couple of thingsat u that you did in this debate thatn interested me. is is you kind of went against t some of the the party'hes main positions on the issue of abortion. well, first of all, you said women do want somethin g. t trus so you really don't trust

men are do the job. is that true? i'm kidding. t topicis tha that's a joke. that was a famous margaret thatcher quote. that was wel>> sean:t wal said. but on the issue of abortion, i think from a politicf aboro s, i find myself in agreement with you. i look at e ofstatyo pennsylvania and mastriano lost by what's nearlyby 16 points. no exceptions for, of the mother's. r ra and that was political death for everyone. you know, top down from thator e ticket as a result of that. it's an political position. you know, i supporan untentat gv a organization that gives expecting moms free foesr the ultrasounds. i just bought some ultrasound machines for theought som becaue i believe in it. however, it's a hard issue to me. and when it. har it gets in them of politics, it is problematic for republicans if repue rigid. to bs proble >> you know, and i am unapologetically pro-life and i about the story my husband and i told about the story of my children. i want to save as many babies wn as we can, and i want to support as many moms as wt mo can. but i don't judge women who are pro-choice any more than i want

themmeo arenymore t to me, for being pro-life. so let's figure out how we'reli. going to supporthow we'r as man as we can. i love that it's back in the hands of the peoplite that'sd be where it should be. we want that to continue to happen. but when it come. want tos to a federalink ther bill, i think there is a place for that. but we've go t to do it where we understand it takes 60 senate votes and a house majority. so let's stop demonizing the issue and let's humanize the issue because is personal for every woman and every man. and we have to start talking about it that way. >> all right. so donald trump was not there. and i would thinat wayk as a candidate, maybe you think, okay, it's an opportunity. >> he does take up a lot of oxygencandidn opportt of in.odyn the room. everybody knows that. and he commands thats d he and obviously is the president. >> you were the only person thate only p i heard about chri' christie and he said don't count because that seems to beco their platform to me. but you said you don't thinkrm party can win with him. you think joe biden, in his current cognitiv.e state cantha? beat him? >> i mean, how sad is that? but i'll tell you, i really buofe. >> well, what i do believe

is you're going to have donald trump is going to spenatd more time in a courtroom next year, not through anything outsidm e their weaponizing government against him. but they're he's going to spend more time in a courtroom thanis he is campaigning. i served with hiigning.m. i was with him. o i agree with him on most issues . and he is my friend.the but the reality is we cannotreal affordannot joe john. t >> john, durham's report said operation crossfireen hurricane never should have been open. he also said thaver.t about onee thing in the steele dossier could be proof that was three years of history with of that. >> okay. how much of the charges against you are political that it's persecution, not prosecut e action and it is abuse of power and a weaponization of our justica wee? t is a >> it's all political. it's all weaponization, all of that. ll pol. but the fact remains, he's got five court cases next year. he's to start the first one,if e the early part of january. >> he's got another one. what are you they can do thaty to one. >> they can do it to all. it is why we have to win,

because we have to make sure that this weaponization stops, gets why we have to clea ization n. the de the department of justice is why we have to clean house in both our intelligence agenciespait i have to. it's why this matters. we will use donald trump as wae reasonus we've got to clean up washington. but you can't clean up washington ishon. f donald trump is fighting issues of the past. we need a young general, national conservative that's going to go and clean up d, t they've done to donalt is but also carry our country forward. >> governor, always great to see. we appreciat roman e coming by. thank you so much. coming up, former vice president mike pence join live us live from the spin room. more reaction to the first gopfi presidential as we continue. thank you for being with fox and hannitinue. foxy. >> so musty in here, everybody. >> darth vader, everybody. darth vader. dan bread attracts and traps excess moisture eliminating

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all right. in 2020, vice president mike pence absolutely demolished kamala harris during their debate. so presiden how did he do tonight? against his fellow republicans? >> let's take a look. ook.martha you asked earlier whs the most best prepared for thise job? and i must say, with all due respect to all of my friendsresh the stage and even the one that's probably looking onably , i think unquestionably i am the best prepared, the most

tested, the most qualified and proven conservative in this race. i was a leader in the congress of the united. i led indiana, where we balanced budgets and had a triple-a rating when i was governor and as vice intopresident of the united sta, we spent funding to backfill on the the the military cuts of the obama administration. and theny we were there in the worst pandemic in 100 years. all right. here with us now, former vice president mike pence. mrean: her. president, how are ? good to see you again. thank you for being here. thaning herek you. i'm the best prepared most tested. it then you had a little exchange with the v.a. and was over thisi issue. it's you actually said it's not and for on the jos notimeb. >> not time for a rookie. right. and called him out when he saidy that and quoted him saying that a president can't do everythinig . >> right.e well, i mean, he's flashy. ba>> seahe's got a great smile.t very personable, smart, obviously successful.

not ready.that that's your take? yes. art of well, that is that's part of my take. but look m, i. >> i was glad to be on that stage. c thought martha did a terrifi job really getting us to a broad range. >> i do think did a great job. bu. tt look, this country is in serious right now.an i mean, joe biden's disastrous withdrawal from, afghanistans has has unleashed the enemies und, the world.n and at the same time, he's been cutting military spending. he threwending open the southere border of the united states where the worst crisis in the border in historywe hav,w avalanche of spending has now created the worst inflation in 40 years. mortgage rates reachedmo rates s year high last week and in the steady assault on our avalues and our core liberties, religious freedoms, it's this no, no time for on the job training. i really the reason that my wife and i after after much prayer stepped into this race

recession, as i've told you befores beca, is when we lot the blessings we've had in our life, where i a leader among ye house conservatives for 12 years, i actuallyi ac we movo the deficit reduction act when george bush was president. it was the last time wduction e actually a meaningful cut it wovernment spending on the books in history. i go home to indiana, i balanced budgets, i cut taxe s ,achieve record employment. and then, you know, i waand ths leading voice for the conservative agenda in the trump administration. >>nc and administration. i'm incredibly proud of. i know there was some criticisrn . our record. i tried to get in on it a couple of times to defend our record of. >> but look to me this whenessage is that i say great humility when i look at the challenges facinook at tgi o america and i look at the experiences we've had, i'm simplye e had, i the most experienced, proven, tested, conservative in this field. and it's that kind of and it conservative leadership is going to be required to turn this country around. >> if you lookquired tcountr onf

borders, if you look on the issue of energy independence, if you look at the issu, if yourge of americann policy and law and order and on so many of these issues, then you guys got hitu with apandem pandemic, you know, the worsict0 the worst one in 100 years. and i think that threw everybodht.y for a loop.d no >> and nobody in the beginning knew anything. let'bon the bes be honest.as jus >> and i think everyone was aron just flailing around a little bit, trying your best c to, you know, understand m the magnitude of what we we're dealing with heragnitue. that that that certainly up to that point, you had said record unemployment for every single demographic in the country. >> democra and achieved energynd independence and beat the caliphate. beat thei, baghdadi and associates a lot of success there. >> well, it's a great and,t of e you know, i tried to get back to a little bit on covid after governor desantis, you know, lines about. >> yeah, and he's entitled to his opinion, but he's not entitled his own facts. was i mean, look, when i was tapped two months into that tastwo monh

to lead the white house coronavirus task force by presidentas c trump, our numr one focus was to save lives, to make sure health care workerlives.sures had the testio resources, the supplies and ultimately the vaccines. upport aright that would see oun through this. we we spun up support forpun up families and businessesotec in paycheck protection, and there was an enormous investmenttion in that. but i believe that's what government is for. you know, when the roogovernmefr in when when, when when hard times strike a natiod timen, ths why you have to balance your budget. that's why you hav thate to be on a solid fiscal foundation. one of the things we never talked about tonighthe thing, we a national debt the size of our nation's economy today. scary for the first time since world war two. and i war ii as first one to be willing to step up and say, look, as president of the unitedok, asf the states, r -- everybody over the age of 40, no changes in medicare. i want to have conversatio insolvency. joe biden was so, yeah,licy i joe biden's policy is insolvency. >> and candidly, my former

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in beautiful milwaukeeity.re i wisconsin following the first gop presidential primary debatoe . with more on tonight's event, desantis campaige onn surrogate and texas congressman chip roy. surr, campaign surrogate florida congressman byron donalds and fox news contributocontribur ari fleisch, who i have no idea who is supporting. so i kno i haw that actually you're going to be the neutral voice. so you guys, the funny thing is i know we're all best friends and you guys agree on a u agree . n the pr >> but you're taking a different position in the in the primary. yeah. i mean, i'm happy to be here happy. >> good friend byron we can show to america. no, no, no. we'd rather have a broad sean:. >> well, we'll get there. we'll get there. like, we'll like, we can disagree on the primary and then r there lock arms, go . the establishment. washington. we do it every day. happy to d do it. but look, i'm proud to endorse ron desantis. and i think tonight he showendod why he's the clear leader. i think he was the clear winner of the debate. he washe was t speaking directle american people. he showed how his track record in is something thatfl the american people can get behindomething. they're frankly sick of the noise. there's a lot of noise on that stage. there's a loere's t bickeringase

and talking to each other. ron desantis was the guy who was standing up there as a y who in the military who demonstrated how he would use that to be commander in chief and showed that he believes that this is a th, thatin decline the florida blueprint will provide a path folorida brt this country back. >> ryan look, i lovevyron my friendship, but i don't know what he's talking about. >>thought that-- governor desantis was fine, but fine was not good enough in this moment. figh for be dynamic. he had to take presence of the entire debate, all the bickerin g and forth. candi and frankly, a lot ofda the candidates, some of them had really good points.or was the governor was good, but he wasn't dynamic.to be dy and he has to be dynamic because the elephant, the true elephant in the room. is donald trump. he's massively aheadssivel in. all the policies on that everybody's talking about. donald trump did i t. in. he did it once. he could do it again. that is still the leader in this entire leade race now. >> i mean, he's now going to bet arraigned tomorrow. this is the fourth time. and i believe, you know, our politica

l our doj has been weaponized and politicized. all that's true. ized.cized,i mean, we have a prt now. and moy the joe biden briber and money laundering scandal, allegations that i believe are th ie are, you know, closing in on the entire family enterprisein on . ho my question is, you know, how much does that impact this in your view? >> look, i think in our primary process, what it's really doinig is it is going to continue to galvanize support around donald trump that will results . listen, i've been in this 34 years, right? it defie s all, you know, i political. it defies put the gravitational pull of political wisdomal and political wisdom in our country for a long time has been flat wronn our cog. what it's done is thate people are realizing we have a two tier system. thisareg we haved not working.i. and if they're going to go after donald trump like this, they'll do it to anybodyy are g hundred percent agree with that buyer and 100%. but the elephant in the room that we're talking >> i about,he as bret baer pointed out, wasn't here. and the elephant in the room isn't going to be there at the reaganthe room be ther libre american people expect you to

show up. ron desantis shows uhe reagap t governor's track record of success in florida something th candidates didn't want to run against because they are so proud of what he did in florida and how that's the model for americs thl a. >> what you say, re? >> i am neutral. my job is to tell you what i se >> m.hat as i see it i thought ron desantis had the strongest night of any candidates on stage.d e strong he did with his answer and lockdowns many people florida opened early when it was controversial to do so, did it with his answer about use of force in mexico and on drugs an it was focusing on the future instead of the past. so i thought dasantis was real good. second place to me was vivek ramaswamy. that guy is a blunt force instrument. and he is articulate, fast on his feet and he's not a politician to raise one of the reasons he is resonating right now. he just says what he thinkhes,

he says it in a forceful and blunt way. and taposa, politicians, sick o washington and that is why vive did well. at is please, re: appreciated. byron, good to see you, chip good to see you as always, than you for being with us tomorrow . say with fox news channel for continued coverage of the 24 republican political debate. trace ng cgallagher and next and it will be as get so stay tuned. don't touch that dial, i'll be on with trace. have a great night. >> good evening i'm trace gallagher, menet and e-scooter 9:00 o'clock in los angeles and this americas lake news. fox news at night. an d breaking tonight a rough-and-tumble first debate for a broken white house n without former president trump people will hav highlights and low lights and where it all goes from here. sean hannity will join us in moments from the spinner but we n pollution live rty in milwaukee. >>il g