in georgia and that will be -- take over the news cycle. >> ainsley: he supported donald trump and didn't say anything negative about donald trump. a lot of people like nikki haley because she was realistic on debt and abortion issue and realistic about trump. we'll see where it goes. bye, everyone. thanks for watching. >> bill: thank you, guys, good morning. it is morning in milwaukee. the first debated no shortage of fireworks last night. the economy and crime high on the docket. one of the biggest stars might have been the former south carolina governor nikki haley. she will be live in dana and me in a matter of moments in wisconsin. breaking news on foreign policy. one thing we'll be talking to governor haley about is the one big story out of russia breaking now. freedom denied for an american held in one of putin's jails. a moscow court extended the

arrest of evan gershkovitch for at least three more months. a return to the cold war echo even louder. hello back in wisconsin. what a night and morning now. >> dana: i'm dana perino. this is "america's newsroom." it was interesting to have millions of people watch the debate last night and so many different takes. you will want to hear from our guest this morning, nikki haley up in a moment. evan gershkovitch was arrested in march on espionage charges in four decades an american journalist was designed against spying against russia. they have denied the allegations and the u.s. government has declared him wrongfully detained. >> bill: greg palkot picks up the story from there live in london and greg, what have we learned? >> bill and dana, sadly there is no end in sight for "wall street journal" reporter evan gershkovitch. he was brought by van to the courthouse today related to the

tough and brutal prison where he has been held since march after being arrested on alleged espionage charges. it was a closed hearing. all journalists got was f glimpse of him going into the building. u.s. ambassador to russia has met with him three times and he appears in good health despite it all. today's pre-trial extension means gershkovitch will be in jail for at least eight months before he is put on trial. that could be extended to a year or longer. several appeals for him to be released have been denied. trials can take another year. in a statement the "wall street journal" said we're deeply disappointed he continues to be arbitrarily and wrongfully detained for doing his job as a journalist. the baseless accusations against him are categorically false and we continue to push for his immediate release. journalism is not a crime. experts say it could all come down to what the man in charge, vladimir putin, thinks or does.

if he wants to release gershkovitch or swap him for someone he could at any time. the general rule is, though, guys, a verdict has to be announced before any deal is done. some say there might not be any resolution to this until after next year's u.s. presidential elections. or perhaps when the ongoing war in ukraine is resolved. whichever comes first. back to you guys. >> bill: wow, greg, thanks, greg palkot on the breaking news in london. >> least well-known person on the stage going into this thing. people are getting to know us. that's a good thing. >> the reason i'm in the race is the country is in a lot of trouble. >> 100% of my time is talking about our vision for the future and my accomplishment. a lot of people that said a lot of things. i'm the only one that has delivered on all these issues. >> dana: the dust is settling from the first republican debates. candidates are hoping for a bump in the polls.

alexis mcadams is here in milwaukee with more. hi. >> hi, dana. good morning from wisconsin. voters are waking up and reacting to seeing what the candidates talked about on the debate stage. do they connect with voters on the main issues? that will have to be seen as they go through the highlights. the candidates had big moments and pretty big audiences. one of the big topics voters wanted the hear about was the economy as most people we talked to in wisconsin say they can't afford the basics. watch. >> we must reverse bidenomics so that middle class fame lilies h a chance to succeed. if you are working hard and can't afford groceries or a car. >> i'm worried the american dream will not exist for our sons and their generation unless we do something about it. >> the candidates were sparring from education, crime, foreign poll cismd abortion all of the candidates on the stage

identified as pro-life but differed on the federal ban. >> don't make women feel like they have to decide on this issue when you know we don't have 60 senate votes in the house. >> 70% of the american people support legislation to ban abortion after a baby is capable. >> when you look at the fox news polls no secret another top issue is border security across the country. voters are seeing the effects of open borders in their cities. >> the most pressing need of the american people from a national security standpoint is our southern border. >> former new jersey governor and prosecutor chris christie said he would be the toughest on crime standing on the stage in milwaukee where they also have had lots of shootings in the past few months. listen. >> the problem is that these prosecutors in these localities in the states are refusing to do their job and to arrest violent

criminals. >> all of those fiery exchanges and back and forth. who was able to deliver their message to the american people? did anyone have a break-out moment or any people changing their mind about the candidates? we'll have to wait and see. >> dana: thank you, great job this week. appreciate it. >> this is exactly why margaret thatcher said if you want something said ask a man. if you want something done, ask a woman. >> bill: that received quite the reaction in the arena last night and former south carolina governor nikki haley is with us live this morning. don't know if you went to sleep or not. >> there is time to sleep later. >> bill: we'll sleep when we're dead. you have been tweeting for a couple of days. hit me with your best shot. how did you think it went? >> it's great. when you have the candidates up there so the american people can see what the options are it's a great moment, the start of the election season, the first

debate. now going into labor day it's off to the races. >> dana: one of the things we led the show with is this foreign policy issue and one that is very important for the gershkovitch and the "wall street journal" the freedom of journalists and democracy. evan gershkovitch is being held by the russians, russia had another moment yesterday when it went after one of its own. i'm wondering if you were to be president how would you try to get evan gershkovitch back? >> you have to do it with strength. putin right now feels like we're so weak. that's what we talked about at the debate last night. you can't say what -- you can't do what biden did by allowing ransom on americans' heads. it makes them take more people. we have to protect our journalists and our americans. the way you do that is make sure you have the backs of ukraine.

we make sure we defend taiwan so china never makes a move and let the world know there will be hell to pay if you take one of our americans. >> bill: ramaswamy's position on the ukraine war as stated a week ago you stop the war now and draw the lines where they are and negotiate a peace. i'm not even suggesting that is possible. that's just what he has said. this is the moment the two of you went at it on foreign policy. >> you are choosing a murderer over an american country. >> wish you well on -- >> i'm not on the boards there. you want to defund israel? you want to -- you want to go and give ukraine to russia? you would make america less. you have no foreign policy experience and it shows. it shows. [cheers and applause] >> bill: you were ready for that

moment. did you expect it? >> no, i don't expect someone running for president to have that much of a lack of foreign policy. the idea that we would defund israel, the idea that you just allow putin to take ukraine knowing that will lead to a world war because put-in said poland and the baltics are neck. you would let taiwan get et en by china. that's not a strong america. our enemies know that. what we saw last night was someone who thinks they know foreign policy. you clearly don't know putin if you think you will give him ukraine and that he will be okay with that and go away. this is a man who just killed prigozhin last night. a man who when i was at the u.n. russian ambassador dropped dead. this is a man who is an enemy, thug and dictator. you never take the side of an enemy over a pro-american free-loving country. that's what vivek did last night.

we need a strong america. the only way you have a strong america is with a strong president. >> dana: one of the issues brought up is abortion. campaigns can deal in fantasy. you repeatedly said and saw it in the clip that alexis played you have to deal with reality as well. when you are governing you kept saying we don't have 60 votes in the senate to do that. is that too specific for the public at large to understand? what about this idea you can find a consensus on a federal level even though dobbs decision said leave it to the states. >> the american people are smart and i think the american people a lot of them don't realize it takes 60 senate votes. i'm unapologetically pro-life. it is great that is no longer in the hands of unelected justices and in the hands of the people. that's where we want it. when it comes to a federal bill, let's be honest with the american people. if you don't have a majority of the house and 60 senate votes nothing is going to happen.

we may have 45 pro-life senators. the idea that a republican president can ban all abortions is no more right than a democrat president banning all these state laws. we need to humanize this issue. it is personal for every woman and every man. i am pro-life. i don't judge anyone who is pro-choice nor do i want them to judge me for being pro-life. let's humanize the situation and stop demonizing it. >> bill: the decision that was made in 1973 was wrongly made at the u.s. supreme court. that's exactly what the sup reams just did. allowing the states to decide. in your home state of south carolina yesterday the state supreme court ruled that abortion at six weeks is legal in south carolina. >> people in south carolina decided it. it's in the hands of the people. what they do in south carolina will be different than california. i would much rather have laws

decided by the people on the ground than by d.c. when it comes to a federal law, i think we could find consensus. let's say i think all americans do agree we shouldn't have late-term abortions. they do agree we should encourage more adoptions and good quality atoppings and doctors and nurses who don't believe in abortions shouldn't have to perform them and contraception should be acceptable and no state law should say any woman who has had an abortion should go to jail or get the death penalty. that's where we need to be. we have to be honest with the american people. but we also have to be realistic. i want to save as many babies as we can and support as many moms as we can. >> dana: one other thing in here. cedric richmond was at the dnc press conference. he said this about whether biden would debate the republican nominee in the future. watch? >> will president biden commit

to debating in the generals? >> we have not had a conversation about that at all. i'm sure one day we will. it is not today. i don't have any news on that. but we will continue to govern because vice president harris and president biden have a job to do and they take it serious. so when we have news on that we'll let you know. >> dana: how is that not a simple yes of course. >> unbelievable. biden's camp said they were worried about my winning the primary. he has to debate just like trump needs to debate. if you want the american people's support you have to show up. you can't just be absent. >> bill: on the donald trump point, you said republicans cannot win with him again. essentially saying you cannot get to a majority in america. did you make the demarcation point for yourself, anyway, or are you trying to make it for the rest of the republican party with the former president?

>> i was proud to serve in his administration and agree with most of his policies. but we have to be honest again. he will spend more time in a courtroom than he will spend on the campaign trail. we cannot allow a president kamala harris. we have to win that general election. in order to do that, you can't do that with someone who literally 3/4 of the american people don't want to see biden and trump run again. the majority of americans he is the most disliked politician in all of america. that's a reality. that person can't win a general election and we can't afford to have kamala harris become our president. >> bill: the debate continues. appreciate your time this morning. >> go to nikki haley.com and join us. >> dana: give our best to your husband. don't miss the second republican debate on fox business september 27th at the ronald reagan presidential library. >> bill: 14 past now. let's roll with this now. >> they're all designed to be

concealable and be able to bring into a school, hidden from parents. >> bill: as students go back to school police raising concerns over vape pens disguised. who makes them and the threat to children. >> dana: the debate an law and order took center stage in milwaukee. >> first thing i'll do is fire merrick garland. second thing i'll do fire christopher wray. we need lady justice to wear a blindfold. >> we're telling people the law don't apply to everybody. if you are working hard and can't afford groceries, a car or new home while hunter biden can make hundreds of thousands of dollars on lousy paintings, that is wrong.

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>> dana: we like you, too, peter doocy. a significant day for space travel. india successfully lands a spacecraft on the moon's surface and doing it in uncharted territory, the first country to land on the moon's south bowl. that's the dark side of the moon facing away from earth. a russian spacecraft crashed on

sunday. the indians nailed it. >> bill: we're one for two as human beings in the past week on the moon. check this out. july of 1969. apollo 11 landing site near the south pole. apparently there are deep craters there and possibility on that part of the moon for the greater chance of water than in other parts of the moon. >> dana: congratulations to the indians. >> bill: of the big rock. last night now, check it out. >> if former president trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice. please raise your hand if you would. [cheers and applause] >> bill: former president donald trump will turn himself in later today fulton county jail in georgia facing 13 charges in that georgia election matter. apparently he will have his mug

shot taken like nine other alleged co-conspirators have who turned themselves in thus far this week. bryan llenas outside the jail fulton county. >> former president donald trump is expected to turn himself in for arrest sometime this evening here at the fulton county jail. his motorcade expected to enter behind me. the sheriff says the former president will be treated just like any other criminal defendant, that includes fingerprinting and we accept trump taking the first presidential mug shot in history. now so far nine of the 18 co-defendants in the case have surrendered. here are their mug shots. most notably yesterday his attorney, rudy july giuliani the rest have until noon tomorrow.

it is -- an inmate died after being eaten alive by bedbugs. president trump will be released on $2 hundred thousand pond with the condition he not intimidate defendants, witnesses or victims including on social media. trump's looming legal battles played prominently at the fox news debate last night. candidates were asked to raise their hand if they would support trump as the republican nominee if he is convicted of a crime. everyone raised their hand except asa hutchinson. former governor chris christie rose his hand half heartedly. >> here is the bottom line. someone has got to stop normalizing this conduct. >> i'm not going to support somebody convicted of a serious felony. >> when it comes to whether or not president trump should run let the american people decide. >> yesterday a federal judge denied an emergency motion to

delay the arrest by two co-defendants. former white house chief of staff mark meadows and former department of justice official jeffrey clark. wanted to delay their arrests until a federal judge weighs in on whether they will be granted the option of moving their case to federal court. bill. >> bill: we'll be watching. thank you, bryan. a big day in atlanta. >> dana: speaker kevin mccarthy says the house could open an impeachment inquiry against biden as soon as last month as they try to get papers. hunter biden traveled to 13 countries with his dad, then vice president joe biden on air force two. let's bring in former assistant u.s. attorney and fox news contributor andy mccarthy. great to have you here. read you this from the atlantic. maybe there are cracks amongst the democrats. not illegal but wrong.

the biggest problem with hang peddling business may have been his father, the president, thought it was fine. do you think that an inquiry can be opened up if there is not clear illegal activity? >> well, we know, dana, that the democrats, when they controlled the house in 2019, actually impeached, filed articles of impeachment against president trump under circumstances where they didn't have a crime, abuse of power can be a high crime and misdemeanor. here we are talking about the potential of high crimes and misdemeanors and bribery. a separate category for impeachment purposes. they have a basis to have an inquiry. where it goes from there, we'll have to see. >> bill: the house speaker kevin mccarthy this week talked about this. there is a legal question here, andy, and a political question. some people within the republican party of the house

don't want to go there. others clearly do. but mccarthy made the point the other day that if they pursue the inquiry, they can gain access to all kinds of bank records and paperwork and information. that's really where you have to go for this investigation, do you not? >> i agree with that, bill. what speaker mccarthy is trying to do is crystallize an issue which is that the white house and the biden administration and the agencies connected to the administration are withholding information from congress. and what he needs to do in terms of the inquiry, which doesn't obligate them to do anything other than continue their investigation, is stand on the principle that the executive branch can't withhold this information from congress. that ought to be something that every republican can agree with, even if they don't want to go down the impeachment road, which is a long way from now.

>> dana: time this out for us, andy. an inquiry could last however long, investigation, impeachment process if that were to come to that could take x amount of time and now you are right, smack dab in the middle of the 2024 election? >> you know, dana, when you mentioned before that the next debate was coming up in a month i was thinking the week after the next debate, trump's first big civil trial starts in new york. he could be on trial himself pretty much from october through next summer depending on how these cases cut. we keep talking about the four criminal cases. there are three civil trials coming up between october and the end of march. so i think there will be a lot of pressure from especially from trump supporters in the house that if the biden investigation is going anywhere there ought to be a parallel investigation with trump. a lot of pressure to say if

democrats are going to put trump through these paces, that the biden investigation will be ratcheted up. i think that's the way our politics works. >> bill: should be a hell of a campaign. andy, thank you. andy mccarthy with us. >> dana: great to see you. >> bill: thank you, andy. [gunfire] >> bill: terrifying moments for too many. a gunman opening fire at a historic biker bar. how many died and who police say was behind all of this. candidates on the stage saying america's success starts with stability at the home and with the family. guy benson, mary kathryn hamm are here to talk about that and react to the big night. >> one thing i think this country could use is somebody in the white house that understands small town values. our road back to get this

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>> dana: gop candidates using their moment on the debate stage to highlight the disintegrating nuclear family and how it relates to education and poverty. ramaswamy admitting the problem starts at home and some are calling the best answer by anyone last night. >> the word privilege gets used a lot. i did have a ultimate privilege of two parents in the house with a focus on educational achievement. i want every kid to enjoy that. education starts with the family and nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind. >> dana: outkick columnist mary

kathryn hamm and guy benson. they are best friends. they separated them so they can't send notes to each other during class. mary kathryn, you are a mom. family is important to you. what did you think of answer? anyone on stage might have agreed with him but vivek had a way to deliver it. >> he hit some of these pressure points that are emotional for gop primary voters and this is one of them. a deep feeling in this country, i think, a worry about despair and loneliness and lack of progress on things like educational achievement and that not being spread to everyone and speaking to that in that moment. >> one of the few things i agreed with former president barack obama was the importance of two parents at home and the issue of fatherlessness. that resonates with people who understand a real privilege of

having two parents who love each other and care about you. not everyone is blessed with that. i was, mary kathryn was, we are extremely fortunate. to speak to that in a moment. a lot of our associations big and small are eroding in public trust, that's a point that needs to be made. >> bill: president obama tried to move the ball down the field when he was in office. a note that says read her op-ed. the economy stupid again. that's your doing, mk. a little bit of the exchanges from the economy last night. >> we will be energy dominant again in this country. >> the truth is that biden didn't do this to us, our republicans did this to us, too. they need to make sure they understand these are taxpayer dollars, not their dollars. >> unlock american energy, drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear. put people back to work by no longer paying them more to stay at home. >> bring your jobs home from

china. >> bill: a little bit from last night. you say it is the 90s are back, it's the economy again stupid from james carville. what they are talking about are different issues in 2023 that directly relate to the economy and policies that have been adjusted on behalf of this administration. >> they need to address this in a way that connects with voters. i think that both biden and the media frankly in a lot of cases and trump are leaving this wide open for gop candidates. haley and desantis talked about these things. they talked about overall government spending. the one with connects with voters is inflation and what they are spending. a little more of that, i think, is a path for them. >> dana: guy, last night you were with a group of republicans and conservatives here in wisconsin. what was their takeaway? >> hosted by americans for

prosperity. a couple hundred of them watching the debate. i tried to read the room and ask for hand raising and that sort of thing. you got a lot of people who said ron desantis helped himself. nikki haley helped herself, especially among the women in the room. a positive. vivek got attention. he was a little more polarizing but on the other hand, president trump is the dominant figure in this primary. i asked his supporters in the room did any of them change at all and the answer was no. so the question is, did last night alter the trajectory of this race in some way that's significant. i didn't necessarily see it. net/net it has to be a positive for the major frontrunner in the race, donald trump. he was absent but by default almost if this keeps going the way it's going, that's a win for him. >> dana: in a way it's the first time a lot of these people have been introduced to america.

some of theme needed a break-out moment. >> bill: judge hamm, did you score a knock-out? >> that is a problem. we have a 30-point gap here. you don't make up a 30-point gap by not having a knock-out punch but he wasn't there to punch. >> dana: great to have you both him. read their work. they are amazing. >> bill: don't miss this. >> dana reads sports. >> dana: here we go again. messi once again proving his star power leading miami to a u.s. cup final. watch this. >> messi, he buries it! >> dana: is there a mercy rule in soccer with messi playing

here? two assists and penalty kick rallied miami back to win. they are set to take on the houston dynamo at the final next month. >> bill: messi is worth the money. he has attracted so much attention in such a short period of time. you know who was at the game last night? it was in cincinnati, joey b, right? >> dana: yes, there he is. >> bill: mr. cool hanging out with t. higgins and jamar chase. football is right around the corner. >> dana: that's all great. hope i get to see him. i would love a pink t-shirt. >> bill: we'll work on that. back to russia. was this plane crash accidental or deliberate? how does it change the war? all good questions today. the manhunt for the killer of a mother of five ramping up amid warnings he might strike again.

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>> bill: the saga of an american held in one of vladimir putin's jails drags on overnight. breaking news on this. a moscow court extended the arrest of reporter gershkovitch for an additional three months. paul, welcome back. we spoke sometime ago. we wish we could have better news. i don't know if this extension has surprised you much based on the decisions that putin has made in the past. >> this is a pattern for us. we were not surprised by us but deeply disappointed. evan, who has been already unjustly detained for five months will be unjustly detained for at least another three and really every day that goes by is a tough one for him and his family and for the journal and for press freedom. >> dana: for everybody at home

to be reminded you know this timeline well. let's put it up here. call for number one shows that the house of representatives unanimously voted on june 13th for russia to free gershkovitch. russia has denied that. the state department spokesperson said this. ambassador tracy said that evan appears in good health and remains strong despite his very challenging circumstances. do you know anything more about that? >> we do understand evan is holding up pretty well under the circumstances. he is held in a security services prison in moscow where in a few weeks' time he will turn 32. it's his birthday coming up. that will be another landmark to remind us how this has gone on for far too long. he is receiving letters and writing letters back. we're encouraged. the sooner it comes to an end

the better. we are asking the u.s. government every day to take action to resolve the issue. >> bill: his parents have been strong publicly and privately. the position of the paper is rather impressive. you have always kept this story out there. evan's wrongful detention is outrageous and demand his immediate release. paul, how would you describe the level of communication on behalf of the journal or american authorities with their russian counterparts on this? >> there is a lot we can't see because that takes place national security council to russia. we keep seeing reports of prospects of talks, the russians hint occasionally there might be some breakthrough here but i think realistically from our understanding and from what the national security advisor jake sullivan has said they don't see a clear resolution to this any

time soon. we are always quite wary whatever russia says leads us on a merry dance and we just keep hoping the u.s. government will figure out a way to get evan back and get other people unjustly detained in russia back including paul waylon who has been there far longer than evan. >> dana: do you think that putin is just digging in even further? >> i think they view this as a hostage taking that provides them for some -- with some leverage in negotiating with the united states. the fact evan is a reporter makes a high-profile case. this is a pattern we've seen in russia, you know, journalists have been harassed around the world, of course, in russia's case we have seen a pattern of this and one that has to stop. one of the things that we have suggested is that the u.s. government put sanctions immediately on any country that holds somebody unjustly, which

is a statement department designation for taking someone hostage by a government. sanctions could come off as soon as that person is released. it is hard to see otherwise that a pattern like this that russia has been engaged in for years will stop. >> bill: we'll give it the attention it deserves. it deserves quite a bit. >> we really appreciate your support. >> the decline in education is one of the major reasons why our country is in decline. >> this is a civil rights issue of our time. >> dana: education and parental rights a top concern for voters. how hopefuls are highlighting their plans to prioritize your kids. >> i am most concerned about the border. and i want that to be secured. >> what people want to hear is where do the candidates stand on the issues? >> i want to see someone who i can relate to. someone who is very personable.

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changed indication in this nation is to break the backs of the teachers unions. they are standing in the door house of our kids locking them into failing schools. >> some candidates demanding transparency and school choice. >> parents should never have to wonder what is being said or taught to their children in the classroom. parents need to be deciding which schools their kids go to because they know best. >> and a couple candidates spoke about preparing students for manufacturing jobs, governor nikki haley calling to boost vocational training and hutchinson calling for better computer science education to compete with china. >> bill: thanks, lydia. >> dana: the one on my mind a lot. >> bill: education. >> dana: it's interesting. doug burgum said education is a local matter and some school districts do very well. overall as a president if you

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