that ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, i am jesse watters. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." republican candidates looking to capitalize on their big moments from the slugfest in milwaukee. eight hope fills -- eight hopefuls clashing in the debate as they look for a boost in the polls. >> i will never let the deep state bureaucrats lock you

down. >> i am the only person who is not bought and paid for. >> i was a house conservative leader before it was cool. >> if you want something said ask a man, if you want something done, ask a woman. >> america can do for anyone what she has done for me. >> our nation is in trouble because of failed leadership. the solution is not for more years of joseph biden. >> i am from a town of 300 people. it is a big deal to make it on the stage. ramaswamy grabbing a lot of headlines and the attention of his fellow debaters. >> who is this guy with a funny last name and what is he doing in the middle of this debate stage? >> i have had enough of a guy who sounds like chatgpt

standing up here. the last person who stood in the middle of the stage and said what is a skinny guy with an odd last name doing up here was barack obama and we are dealing with the same type of amateur. now is not the time for on-the-job training. >> today, ukraine is not a priority for the united states. >> under your watch, you will make america less. you have no foreign policy experience and it shows. >> the reviews are in from the liberal media. i don't think they liked it very much. >> it is terrible. i felt like he was performing. >> it was so miserable. >> the public got treated to a heap of crazy. >> he was disrespectful

territorial, obnoxious at times. >> you have been talking to everybody about your thoughts. tell us what you thought about last night. >> i loved it. i was glued to the television. i love democracy in action. to me it was like talking to a jury. the american people are the jury. these people are the lawyers trying to sell themselves to the american people. i thought he was the populist guy who was the nonpolitician in business, who was the first want to say, even if donald trump is convicted i will go for him even though they all swore they would support him. i was impressed with nikki haley. i was very impressed.

she has a lot of foreign policy experience and she showed it. i heard someone on fox this morning and i was disturbed by it. the individual said nikki haley lost her cool. she was yelling. there was real resentment and i said, why is he picking on the woman when the men were all yelling as well. that was very offensive and i wonder how many americans thought that? with respect to desantis, i was happy with what he said, but he is awkward. it is like he didn't know what you should do, like taking a picture. chris christie was a bulldog. there were things he said that were not totally anti-trump where it seemed like he wanted to be in the race as opposed to being an anti-trumper. pentz, it was out of character for him to say the things he

said. trump was talking about yesterday and -- pentz was talking about yesterday and it did not matter. to me, the winners were nikki haley and desantis, who made some ground up, but the one thing i loved was when -- got up said to real, frack, and burn coal and he connected it to the economy. that was the most important connection. >> that was a clean and concise line. >> the big winners today or brett and martha. >> i have that in my notes, to bang. >> they had to put up with a loud audience and they did well. the person that zigs while everybody zags is going to come

out ahead. i am not going to jump on the hysteria train. it is too early, but you do when when you make everyone else react the same way and trump used to do that all the time. 20 people on the stage would scream and that is what ramaswamy was doing. he said bought and paid for. that triggered everybody and they all say the same thing and that works to your advantage because everything is focused on you. the focus was on him and not on desantis. desantis is supposed to be number two. they treated ramaswamy like number two. donald trump not being there ended up being a plus for these candidates because when you have a personality that bright, you cannot see the other people. ramaswamy got a strong opening.

a few of the other people probably did better. he seemed -- it goes to that thing. if you are versed in persuasion you will always have an edge and you can tell he's got it. it is too early to say who the democrats should be worried about, or if they should be worried about anybody. >> may be the person they are worried about is not on the stage. i thought one of the interesting things for me, i have never been in the debate room. i have always been in the staff room or onset. what was interesting as when he said you are all bought and paid for, it is not just the people on the stage that reacted. that was this moment. they ebbed and flowed. sometimes they cheered and sometimes they didn't. what i thought one last night

were issues and policy. people were hungry to hear what would you do to make my life better. >> who is the audience? >> they are rnc people. >> bought and paid for. >> everybody got a few seats. the other thing is, great ratings, more than anticipated. what i thought was interesting was when we had this voter panel from wisconsin, nine people for both days, before the debate and after the debate. we were able to talk to them and the consensus was there were a lot of people wear their hearts might have been with ramaswamy but their heads were with desantis and haley. they like dog, but they thought maybe he could be something else in the government.

the other thing is, the young people tend to like ramaswamy but they all said he is too polarizing, energizing, but he probably couldn't win. in wisconsin is where we will be a year from now for the rnc convention. it is a must-win for the republicans. i asked all of them, who thinks any of these candidates could beat biden in 2024 and they thought this is a field they have a lot of pride in. >> the democrat take away was what? do you fear any of these people? >> quaking in my boots. i found it interesting. i am glad we are in season versus in a few months we will see what is happening and that is what is important for the american people. the fact that donald trump wasn't there was an advantage to start talking about him and it

was important and i am glad they asked about how they responded to the indictments. this guy is up 30 or 40 points in the primary. i did not see a credible threat to donald trump winning the primary. i thought it was fascinating five of the eight were governors. they have executive experience to talk about it. i love chris christie, but talking about how he governed a blue state and how he was able to get that done, that is important. on the ramaswamy front, he and nikki haley seem to like the winners to me. it was very strange he started off by copying barack obama, the line about the skinny guy with a funny name. that is what barack obama said when he accepted the nomination

at the dnc. why would you copy someone as your introduction to the world? and copy the most popular democrat. >> don't you hate plagiarists? >> i don't get that. >> biden. >> or when melania copied michelle obama. no? no one is into that? so i thought that was strange and as time goes on, a lot of this was bubbling off of ramaswamy, the audio has been released that he took money to go to law school, which seems deceitful. people will start digging into him. >> if someone gives you a scholarship and you have $1 million in the bank, you don't take it? >> you were not supposed to get it if you can afford to go. >> so he is not worthy to go? >> there are scholarships based

on need. >> so he took a need one. >> it is not like he checked off a box that wasn't authentic. >> here we go. elizabeth warren said she was native american. nikki haley, i felt this way during the amy coney barrett confirmation, seeing a woman up there is fundamentally exciting. she did a great job. she was the only realistic person. >> stop it. >> no, you stop it. >> let's all stop it. we have to pay some bills. >> advertisers, take it away. ♪ ♪ t away. >>

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♪ ♪ >> democrats be aware, the g.o.p. candidates are focused on the issue that could sink the chances in november. education and parental rights. republicans pledging to stand up for the rights of parents to know about it. >> let's shut down the head of the snake, take that $80 billion, put it in the hands of parents across this country. >> the only way we change education is to break the backs of the teachers unions. >> i would give them based on

merit. >> the decline in education is a reason the country is in decline. we need education, not indoctrination. >> we need transparency. >> the majority of people voting have children. how important is the education issue given the fact it is run by the state schools but also the failing national report card. >> one of the things that is interesting, i don't think anyone had big differences of opinion but what they have is an opportunity to run on education as part of the platform across all tickets, from the local races, school board races and campaigns deal in fantasy and governing is reality.

it was one of the things nikki haley talked about. she said that it's fine, you can say you are going to end all abortions and they will never happen, but she is being realistic about how many votes there are in the senate. i don't know any republican who has not said they are going to abolish the department of education. if that were true, it would have happen. it is a great goal. maybe that can happen. somebody has to declare a national emergency on education when it comes to the standards accomplishments and achievements. when nikki haley and many of the others mentioned the parental rights, especially on the gender issue, that is the number one thing. randy went after governor desantis today. they must think that he is a problem. i am sure he welcomes it. >> for the candidates, they

believe they would eliminate the department of education, but what purpose does it serve in this country? >> i don't know. it is an honest answer and i have never been honest. i usually pretend, but i do know this. it is not getting eliminated. it is never going to get eliminated. republicans have tried to eliminate government for decades and it just grows. the democrats keep throwing money at schools and expecting results and if that were true we would be matriculating and that is not happening. the democrats use the education system as a money laundering opportunity for donations, as a vote harvesting opportunity during elections and a brainwashing laboratory. they try to trap students in these laboratories and then

don't want to talk about it. republicans are talking about academic achievement and we have never talked about that in this detail. the parents have to get involved. you can't expect to send your school -- send your kid to public school and he will ace his lsat's. you have to read the kid books check his homework, run for school board, something, but to say it is all hands-off, you do it, you will never get a smart kid. 54% of republican voters think the schools teach too little on reading and writing. 50% want more on math, science and tech. how important is it to focus on these subjects? >> it is critical. this is one of the issues where you have unification amongst parents who want vast

improvement in terms of our public school system, more opportunity for vouchers. the governor of pennsylvania has close to 60% approval rating. we remember how glenn youngkin -- it is progress, what is going on. that he is part of the democratic national discourse is a departure from how it has been. navigator research has dials they are doing through the debate, seeing the trend lines people like. they talked about abolishing the department of education and the teachers union, they fell off a cliff with independent voters. it was straight down. independent voters are the key to this election. democrats and republicans don't have enough on their own. it is an issue. republicans talk about this all

the time. it is not resonating with those independence and if you want to win a general, you have to go through them. >> can we get the sound on ramaswamy bringing up -- in the united states? >> we have a federal government that pays single women more not to have a man in the house than to have a man in the house contributing to an epidemic of fatherlessness and that goes hand in glove with the education crisis because education starts with the family and the nuclear family is the greatest form of governments known to mankind. >> he would be great in that seat. those ideas have been around. what we predicted, that when you combine the covid shutdowns and the gender fascism, the education problems, the crime it made it so parents had no

place in the democratic party. no one listens to their problems because their problems are twisted into some form of bigotry or some sort of and democrats say we want a conversation. but if you want a conversation in a school board meeting, they are going to call you a domestic terrorist. democrats have to stop embracing evil because republicans are on the side of the good. you can understand why they are proslavery because the republicans were not. >> the other side, the white house, they are embracing all sorts of weird stuff. child mutilation. they won't condemn that because they want to own the right. the right comes out against it

the white house has to be for it. the democrats say the children used to be the future and no now it is dudes in dresses. parents will start figuring this out soon. you will soon become a republican. >> that is not true and gender affirming care is not. >> we are going to remove your. how is that for affirmation. >> republicans vowing to use military force against the cartels. >> republicans vowing to use military force against the cartels.

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fix it. >> i am going to send troops to our southern border. when these drug pushers are bringing fentanyl across the border, that is going to be the last thing they do. >> this is disastrous. an invasion across someone else's border when we should use those resources to prevent across the invasion of our own southern border. >> we will partner with the mexican military and hunt down and destroy cartels claiming lives. >> there will be lethal force used by the border patrol law enforcement as needed to protect the border. >> i will make that border wall complete. >> powerful stuff. sounds like another idea that sprung from this table. you have insight into these cartels. they are not just about drugs

and human trafficking. they are becoming big business. if we don't deal with this now they are going to be dealing with us later. >> i didn't understand the solution. i did not get specifics. we have to get tough on the border. we have to designate cartels terror organizations and ratchet up the cia, but what does that look like? they are following what fox is saying or what trump has said. what does it mean when you have border patrol agents shooting coyotes in texas. we are going to shoot anybody who comes across the border? you are going to stop fentanyl from coming into china? how? how are they going to partner with the mexican military? all of a sudden we are partnering with the mexican military? and you trust the mexican military?

do they want to partner with us because they are on the take from the cartels. we didn't hear specifics on how they are going to reduce inflation. what are you going to do to make people earn more. we didn't hear a lot of specifics, and like a father, i am disappointed. >> are we going to bomb china too? >> the one thing i heard that was interesting was desantis saying he would send in special forces to mexico. we have an idea of where the drugs are coming from and how they are getting into the united states. we deal with it in other countries, you should be able to deal with that on our own border. desantis, unlike other people on the stage, has dealt with not the border, but the consequences where he sends the emigrants to

the other states. he asked me to mention that. the important thing is that this past month in july, the influx is up 30%. everyone said title 42 is down everything is going down. we have 130,000 people coming in in july. why is it easier to come here illegally than legally? the auctioning off the border wall, it is an insult to the american people. i remember being at the border after trump -- office and saying where is security. now biden is selling it to make sure if the republican comes in they cannot rebuild the wall. the fact that 80% of americans

approve of the construction of a border wall, it is to desantis' benefit. >> it is fair to say somebody who brings drugs in that killed 100,000 people is a terrorist. what is different? >> when we kill terrorists, most are governments we are not working with. the mexicans are a strong ally. there could be military resources or cartel kings that it would benefit us or take them out. this idea that we are going to show up and use deadly force and everyone last night, i will say i agreed with what jesse said. it has never happened before. >> he sounded very democratic. >> he sounded like he thought donald trump was the one who had

the ideas about this and that is how the majority of the republican base feels. >> talking about we have to stop the fentanyl and that is why we are going after the cartels, the majority is traffic in by americans. are you going to shoot americans at the border? >> is it coming through the border or ports of entry? >> full of fentanyl. >> we don't get any of the stuff that comes across undetected. >> we get both. >> it is the point i was going to make about terrorists. we know how much we catch in terms of the border patrol pulls over a car and there is all this fentanyl in it. you don't know what you are not catching and you don't know how many people are coming in that you don't catch.

the other thing is, the candidates missed an opportunity to hit back at biden. 146 people on the terrorism watch list have come across the border that we know of. >> amazing. why isn't anyone's hair on fire about that? they missed an opportunity about that. >> up next, donald trump on his way to georgia for his arrest. . >> up next, donald trump on his way to georgia for his arrest. hey, grab more delectables. you know, that lickable cat treat? de-lick-able delectables? yes, just hurry. hmm. it must be delicious. delectables lickable treat.

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the trial to start the 23rd that seems like tomorrow. >> someone has got to stop normalizing this conduct. >> donald trump without an iota of vision for this country. >> i did not raise my hand because there as an important issue we have to face. obviously i'm not going to support 70 who has been convicted of a serious felony. >> every minute they been talking about the fast is time that is -- biden loves it. >> trump is the most disliked politician in america. we can't win the general election that way. >> can we talk about whatever you want. i'm curious when the d.a. says

she wants the trial to start october 23rd, it feels like tomorrow. >> it will take another year or 18 months to be operating where we should be, where it is only six to nine months waiting for defendants going to trial. the beginning of this year, she said it will take another year and a half before they can get to trying cases from six to time -- six to nine weeks from the arraignment. there is no way it is starting. you have 19 defendants, you have discovery. everyone has gotten a copy of whatever statement they may have made. they get an opportunity to make a motion to suppress. it is called discovery. according to title 17, my fair -- my fellow lawyers will think it is crazy, all

applications for continuances are at the legal discretion of the court. they basically say all motions have to be filed within ten days. >> the reason she gave that date is because it was a request from one of trump's codefendants. he made a request for a speedy trial, asking for the first week of november, so she said okay. it was not something she dreamed up. >> shouldn't they separate it out? >> that is how jack smith did it but she brought a case against all of them together. >> getting arrested in prime time is the most trump thing i can imagine. >> i am going to get bumped.

we have a really good show tonight. nikki haley brings up an important concern. when the polls say there is no way, trump has it in the bag as the candidate but he will lose the general. why are we -- why would the republic party run into that fire? the answer is because that is what they were saying in 2016 that he did not have a chance. the polls are a little dishonest right now. for whatever reason. >> he has been rejected so many times since then. >> by who? >> the american people. >> we will see. you are going to change her

name. >> this is not funny. >> if it comes to it, i will. last night i would have said in this country, they don't determine elections, we the people do. we determine them at the ballot box and that is it. the fact that trump is getting railroaded, it is not about trump. tonight, when he gets his mug shot, i didn't like the way it looked with rudy and i thought it was going to be a big, viral moment. you said something that bothered me the other day. it has been on my mind. trump had been indicted and you made it seem like that was a good thing. that is actually a disgraceful thing and it is a sad thing. the fact that you are using it

as a talking point, that is beneath you. >> i never said he was facing life in prison. it was a conversation in the break. he is facing indictments and four different jurisdictions and -- >> you said it with a smile. >> it is just my face. >> one guy hunting -- running for president -- he potentially committed a bunch of crimes. >> i never want to hear no one is above the law from your side. >> you created the society where every day we watch people above the law. it is smash and grab's robberies. you are going after him not

because of the law. this is payback for four years of our presidency that broke your brain. now you have to go put him away his lawyers away. >> did you read the indictments? >> yes. >> a d&c surrogate flipping the script on republicans. yes.

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>> a d&c surrogate flipping the script on republicans. >> anybody thinks this country is in decline, come to cities. democratic mayors across the nation are creating great places where people want to be, where growth is happening and where our economy is growing. >> let her rip. >> i would hate to amplify something in the break, but you

said to me this woman isn't fit to be mayor and how could she look out the window? like a mug shot. >> it probably is one. >> she doesn't know what she is talking about. the largest number of people are moving to republican states. they are moving from california massachusetts, new york to virginia, tennessee, florida. >> i was in milwaukee and we had that voter panel. they said it is not good, crime it is terrible. we interviewed the mayor of dallas and he said he has the number one safest city this year and he is a black democratic mayor. how did he do it? a focus on police and arresting repeat offenders. she should pay attention to what he is doing. >> that is how it works on both

sides. you can't deny people are leaving the cities. i left the city. >> and we cry every day about it. . i left the city. >> and we cry every day about it. it's because of tiktok that i had to go out and get a website. i'm at a point now where i've outgrown my house. growing up, every time i'd get out of the shower, i would itch. my first experience with goat milk soap, it kinda was like a light bulb moment. tiktok is a fantastic platform for diy. if you'd have told me three years ago that i would own my own business and be expanding into a separate building, i would've told you you'd lost your mind.

♪ ♪ >> jesse: time now for "one more thing." greg? >> greg: tonight great show. we are going to dissect but no clips of the debate. paul mauro, ashley st. clair. first timer. kat timpf, jimmy failla, ug. let's do this jesse's hair care

tips. you know, when you are at the barbershop it's always important to get your head close to the mirror. just when you get that poofy hair you want to press it this is what jesse does before the show all the time. just pounds his head. >> judge jeanine: is that a cat? looks like a goat. >> greg: the greatest of all time animal. >> judge jeanine: what is wrong with that? >> jesse: narcissist. >> greg: narcissist. [laughter] >> judge jeanine: okay. i'm next. a massachusetts couple is excited for the destination wedding in italy the only problem is the dog ate the passport. the guy didn't want to take advantage and call the wedding off, so they called their local congressman and they told him that their golden retriever chickee short for chicken cutlet ate the passport so they got a new passport. >> dana: i bet that makes people mad getting passports.

>> judge jeanine: they're getting married. don't you believe in love? >> greg: reason to believe it was bad. the dog new. knew. >> dana: pickupup named bella in spain. get a bath. no one could get him out. as an owner would probably irritate you. >> judge jeanine: look at that i love it. ha ha. i love that. >> dana: latest short questions with psychotherapist elise bitter. great young woman. a psychotherapist has great advice especially if you are going through a breakout. >> greg: is she bitter? >> judge jeanine: that was good. >> jesse: obvious. >> jessica: two of my gave hit sports coming together charity event worked for part of the ball crew. 6'7" forward sported the ball boy uniform after a celebrity shot during his match number one

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