the blame on the federal government. william joins us with more on all of this, and william, this is a bipartisan issue. barack obama brought it up in 2008, rick santorum in 2012, what's happened since? >> john, it's actually gotten worse. about 30% of u.s. children are raised by a single parent. compared with 7% worldwide, and experts will tell you not having a father in a child's life leads to multiple problems. right now, 40% of all u.s. babies are born out of wedlock. even higher among blacks and hispanics, 70 and 53%, and that is suggesting a breakdown in the conventional nuclear family. >> education starts with the family, and the nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind. >> so when children are raised without a father, studies show they are more likely to grow up in poverty, become pregnant as a teen, abuse alcohol or drugs, drop out of school, even go to

prison. >> what happens is these boys are hurting, they know something is wrong, and most of them respond out of anger and frustration, and that's what you see is going on. >> so john smith baker started fathers in the field, a group that mentors fathers, hunting, fishing, to provide a strong role model. 1960, 5% of children were born out of wedlock, and today, 40%. but changing the outcome is much harder. back to you. >> john: it could be a big issue in this year's election. william, thank you. >> sandra: the white house now, sorry, getting to florida now, where they are giving an update, officials in florida are giving an update on preps for hurricane idalia. obviously one of the biggest concerns as you heard from the white house podium, the briefing room there, is the storm surge along the west coast. they are talking about preparations right now. we are going to dip in and listen. >> counties versus us getting

the information and making sure it gets down to the county level. i'll let shane say how he does that in columbia county. listen to your local emergency management official as we move into the next few hours. as soon as the disaster has passed, again, all of the state's resources and all the state emergency response team, 30 plus agencies, plus all the mutual aid from all over the united states will be ready and quickly responding to it to include even in the overnight hours. so, please stay safe, please heed the evacuation warnings thank you governor for all you do for us. >> thanks, shane. >> thank you, governor, everybody for being here today. i just want to reiterate what they were talking about. if you do have issues such as you're a special needs patient, call in the citizens information number is open and active, opened at noon.

386-719-7530, and we can help you get registered for the special needs shelter. if that is something that you are wanting to take advantage of and be a part of. the shelters will open at 6:00, we have 5, we have the one special needs shelter, west side elementary school and community centers, richland community center open, winfield community center and the west side community center and have fort wayne high school open on the south end of the county as well. thank you all for the support from all the agencies here in the room. the support i'm getting from the division of emergency management already. just two days basically into this event. but everybody please heed the warnings stay safe, and we are preparing for the worst but hoping for the best. thank you, everybody. >> thank you. jimmy. >> thank you, governor, kevin. kevin guthrie, he has not even had a honeymoon yet. thank you to the dedication of the citizens of the state of florida. just as we saw with hurricane

michael and hurricane ian, storms can be unpredictable, can change at the last minute. you can't run from water, it's too dangerous. there's no structure that can survive the type of surge a storm like this can put out. so, that life-threatening surge is something i really want to heed on, and listen to the evacuation orders by your local officials. as we get into the recovery, you are going to have predators that are going to prestage outside those affected areas, and i'm telling you, mark hunter and folks do an amazing job of keeping you safe. but these folks approach at your doorstep and will offer to remove trees off your house, provide you services before the storm and after the storm. i'm going to let you know. if you feel comfortable giving a total stranger cash at your doorstep, you might as well set it on fire. you are not going to be able to get any restitution with those types of transactions.

people that come out immediately after the storm, a lot of times are not the best intentions. they are going to seize that opportunity to take advantage of. whatever you do, do not sign anything. you are going to have folks that will want to provide services to you, and just say sign this document. you may be signing a contract and now obligating you to services where they are going to charge you whatever they want. so, understand signing something immediately after the storm you need to get your facts straight, know what your rights are. if you have damage -- >> sandra: really important update from the officials in florida, and governor ron desantis telling people to prepare, now is the time, the path is directly heading for the west coast of florida. a lot of folks in the path's way. you heard from the white house, make the decision over what you are going to do now so you don't get stuck in this. the storm surge, though, john, that is the big warning right now. warnings it could be 15 feet in places, that could be deadly, and that is the warning a lot of

those people are dealing with right now, residents in florida. >> john: folks in st. petersburg and tampa, and clearwater, they are on the dirty side of the storm and will push a lot of water into tampa bay and clearwater beach, so make sure you stay away from the water. the governor has a lot of contingencies to deal with the aftermath of the hurricane when it blows through, but immediately the task is to get out of the way of it. >> sandra: right now it is lashing cuba, a lot of flooding is happening, we are watching the storm's path. we'll continue to bring updates as we get them. a live look at the white house where the president is set to speak any moment now we are told on healthcare costs, and his plans to allow medicare for drug prices. a key part of the 2024 pitch to voters. but drug companies are already fighting back in court. also waiting on a pentagon

briefing to start any moment now, $250 million weapons package to ukraine as americans are divided over the funding of that war. we'll keep an eye on all of that for you. but first, breaking news from our southern border. >> john: federal authorities are investigating a group of foreign nationals who crossed the border with help from an isis-linked human smuggler. points to new intelligence that found a group of nationals relied on assistance from a human trafficker linked to a foreign terrorist organization. the u.s. then immediately took steps to "successfully" disrupt it. >> gillian: we are just learning, john, now about these major concerns among top national security officials here at the white house that the group of migrants allowed into the country by dhs may have ties to isis and may have been

smuggled into the united states, brought here by a terrorist operative. the national security council tells fox news this in a statement in part, reporting by the u.s. intelligence community revealed that one overseas member of the smuggling network had a connection to a foreign terrorist organization. top biden national security officials became aware of the threat once the fbi uncovered a human smuggling network backed by isis that was transporting uzback nationals across the southern border. they realized after the fact after a dozen had been granted entry into the u.s. without raising any red flags. officials then immediately scrambled to identify and assess the 12 people at large inside the u.s. as of now, remains no indication the individuals have a connection to a foreign

terrorist organization or are engaged in plotting a terrorist attack in the u.s. this all comes as the administration faces increasing scrutiny over its border policies and republican calls to impeach dhs secretary mayorkas. >> i believe the house should impeach alejandro mayorkas, for opening up the borders and creating humanitarian disaster in our history. >> gillian: republican sources tell me they remain deeply concerned about terrorist groups exploiting weaknesses at the southern border. and peter just had a chance to ask karine jean-pierre before i came on the air about this. you'll play it back later, i'm sure. to paraphrase her, said the administration considers this whole operation a huge success because they were able to intervene with the smuggling group but again, that was only after these people had already

come inside the united states. john. >> john: well, why wait any longer. we have that exchange prepared, gillian, and here it is, between peter doocy and karine jean-pierre. >> how is it possible that isis sympathizer is sneaking people into this country? >> i'm assuming you are speaking to the cnn story, right? ok, want to make sure that folks are watching understand the question. so i want to be really clear here. so the intelligence alerted us to a human smuggling network. we moved fast and successfully to disrupt it. >> john: successfully disrupt it. but as gillian pointed out, after those people had already come into the united states. this was not prevented ahead of time. >> sandra: it's a serious question and something that should continue to be asked. we have seen that constant flow over the border. we don't know who's coming in,

john. >> john: one thing you can be sure of, if isis is behind it, it's not a good thing. >> sandra: no. any moment now president biden will take the podium on his plan to lower drug costs, for the economy for the middle class but that's not the truth for the reality for many american families. take it from his own vice president. >> most americans are a $400 unexpected expense away from bankruptcy. >> sandra: andy, former cke restaurant ceo and andy, that was a dead give away they are clearly seeing something in the economy most people are feeling, a lot of folks, andy, cannot meet an immediate emergency because they are dealing with the stifling inflation. you are writing about it. you say kamala harris's slip-up reveals bidenomics hurting american families and families are in deep trouble and far more

significant than any bidenomics spin can conceal. what is your message here, andy? >> look, first of all, give kamala harris a little credit for coming up with this counter narrative statement. she's at least admitting people are in very, very serious trouble. look, there are people out there right now who have to go to their credit cards, savings accounts, borrow money from somewhere, draw down on their 401(k) plans to cover a dental bill, a medical bill, unexpected car expense. we all experience those things regularly. and this is why we see savings dropping materially, we see people drawing down on the 401(k), 36% increase, according to bank of america second quarter and now have credit card debt over a trillion dollars. 51% of americans cannot pay the debt off at the end of the month and interest rates are double digits, somewhere between 15 and 22% on the credit cards. so, this is a real disaster for americans.

anybody that things bidenomics is working is living in a cave because it's clearly not. >> sandra: go to the grocery store, i mean, we say it -- the prices are not coming down and whenever you hear from this white house, dan, that these are inflation is coming down, it's not the case. it has slowed the growth of those prices going up has slide, and that we all can acknowledge is a good thing. but once those prices go up they rarely come down at the grocery store. eggs under this presidency are still up 23%. basic staples, milk up 14%, chicken prices up 23%. bacon, gas prices, just going to the grocery store, costing 40% more under this presidency and now you have voters who are saying we don't feel good about our financial situation. they will ask themselves that when they head to the ballot box. >> we talked about this on the show repeatedly and a point worth repeating over and over and over again. administration and economists think about the rate of change, inflation was 9%, now it's 3%,

the average person goes to the supermarket and sees that eggs that used to cost $2 now cost $3 and the fact they are not going up to $4 but only 3.25 is a problem for them even though the rate of change is roughly the same and explains a whole host of issues. why despite a low unemployment rate consumers are relatively unhappy. why, despite a relatively low rate, credit card delinquencies have gone up 6 or 7 consecutive quarters now. people falling under the weight of the higher prices that not going up at the same rate, not in any way coming down. >> sandra: interesting question in your piece, andy. you say raises a very disconcerting question. is this the new bidenomics normal? you then dug into the data, what did it reveal, andy? >> it reveals that the policies of this president have put the american consumer, the american people at a very disadvantageous position with respect to their finances.

you have, as you've just been talking about, inflation is cumulative, just because it's only up 3.2%, that means it's up 3.2%. it keeps increasing, almost like compound interest. it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and the policies that they put in place are not addressing the problems americans are facing. they can't pay these bills. they can't bear these expenses. you are seeing incredible frustration in the economy. it shows up in the polling. just talk to anybody as you say at a grocery store, talk to somebody at a grocery store, convenience store, at the gas station. everybody is going to talk about how prices have gone up and they cannot afford to continue under these economic policies. we need change in 2024. this is the new normal, what will continue to happen with these economic policies. >> sandra: interesting analysis and observation, we'll have a woman on this program, she and her husband are veterans, bought their home on a v.a. loan, worries her now adult children

won't have the same opportunities they have, they are in their early 20s. one of them is living at home with them because he just can't make enough money or save enough money to buy his own home. so we'll look forward to talking to that small town voter on this program. dan, thank you. andy, thank you. >> john: the pentagon briefing now underway, we will keep an eye on that for any updates on that breaking story we just reported. isis-linked smuggler at the u.s. southern border and major new package for ukraine announced today. plus, there's this. >> he can't step away from the fact that look, he's the one that said he was going to abandon israel, those were his words. now he's wanting to walk it back. >> sandra: 2024 candidates nikki haley last hour on the program going after vivek ramaswamy again, this time slamming her competitor over his stance on israel. chris christie will join us with

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>> john: a live look at the white house where kamala harris, the vice president is just speaking ahead of president biden on lowering the cost of prescription drugs. we will continue to watch this and if they make any news above and beyond what's already been announced we will certainly break in and bring that to you. meantime, listen to this. >> israel faces genocide threats from hamas, hezbollah, from iran, syria. you need a president that understands that, that understands that iran, israel is the front line of defense when it comes to us dealing with islamic terrorism in iran, he just doesn't get it.

>> john: that was 2024 candidates nikki haley speaking to us last hour and knocking fellow republican rival vivek ramaswamy on his position on israel. he has taken a lot of criticism regarding foreign policy plans in general, including last night on "hannity." chris christie, 2024 presidential candidate and former governor of my former home, the garden state of new jersey. appreciate it. >> good to see you, john. thank you. >> john: a little bit about what vivek ramaswamy said, we played it out last hour, he said on israel, what i said is it would be a mark of success if we ever got to a point in our relationship with israel if israel never needed the united states aid, he says by the end of my first term our relationship will be stronger than it ever has been because i will treat it as a true friendship, not just a transactional relationship. took a lot of heat from you, from governor christie, former

vice president mike pence at the debate over his foreign policy. what do you say what he said about regarding israel? >> look, it's the latest thing he said about israel. what he does, john, he says something, he gets roundly criticized and practically laughed at over some of the stuff he said and then he says i didn't say that. i meant this. this is not the kind of person you want sitting behind the desk in the oval office, whether it's on this issue, whether it's on handing taiwan over to the chinese in 2028, or whether it's his complete abandonment of ukraine and security in eastern europe. these are all things that i guess harvard guys talk about in the salons up in cambridge, but they really have nothing to do with what america needs to do as a leader to protect our values all around the world. >> john: he also said he would end the policy of strategic

ambiguity when it comes to taiwan, president biden said the united states would be compelled to come to the defense of taiwan should china attack it, what is the policy of chris christie when it comes to taiwan? >> taiwan, the foreign policy starts in ukraine, we send a very clear message to our unlimited support of the ukrainian effort to defeat the russians. and sends a clear message to china we are not going to cut and run, not do what joe biden did in afghanistan, not abandon our friends and leave them on the battlefield. it will send a clear message to china. if they try to make aggressive moves to taiwan, need to understand we are taiwan's friend and will protect them from aggressive military action by china. and there's nothing ambiguous about vivek's position on this.

he is going to give taiwan to the chinese in 2028. so, he's right. he's getting rid of ambiguity, but it's to give taiwan away to the chinese. that's not what i want to do, not what is right for america or the rest of the world. >> john: as president, would you be prepared to go to war with china over taiwan? >> i would be prepared to do whatever we needed to do to stop the chinese from taking over taiwan. it is not in america's national security interest to have china do that. and we need to make sure we make it very clear through the actions we take beforehand. look, we have seen this in ukraine, john. weakness shown by barack obama in 2024, ambiguous moves by the trump administration during their time in office and joe biden's awful withdrawal from afghanistan, led to giving the green light to vladimir putin to invade ukraine. we cannot have that same type of

american policy towards taiwan. there needs to be a clear signal sent through the way we support ukraine and through the way we say we will support taiwan and do it with credibility. we need a president who has experience, who understands how to deliver results. that's what i've done. and what i would do as president on this issue. >> john: i want to ask you about former president trump's court date set for march 4th on the 2020 campaign issue. the judge, an obama appointee, said we are going to the courtroom on the 4th of march a day before super tuesday. supporters of former president trump are looking at this saying that timeline seems to clearly be designed to interfere with the primary process. what do you say? >> what interferes with the primary process is donald trump's conduct, and his insistence on continuing to run for president of the united states despite the fact he's indicted in four different jurisdictions and he's out on bail in four different jurisdictions in this country.

whether you believe the charges are just or not, they are here. and what it's going to do is put the republican party in an awful position. donald trump is going to court on march 4th, he'll be on trial for anywhere from 6 to 8 weeks and you know, john, i did this for seven years, i'm not just in a theory, i was the leader of the fifth largest u.s. attorney's office in this country for seven years. he's going to go to trial on march 4th, abbe there every day for 6 to 8 weeks instead of taking the case to joe biden and the democrats. donald trump has never beaten the democratic incumbent. i defeated jon corzine in one of the blueest states of the country, and getting outspent 33 million to 11 million, we won. that's the economy we need. we can't have joe biden and kamala harris for another four years. donald trump has to stop putting himself in front of our party, and in front of the people of

this country, and his trial and -- is going to lead to republicans losing all across the country. >> john: well, i mean, he is still the front-runner by a long shot, he dropped a little after the first debate but still has a leg up on everybody else. we'll see how this continues to go, we look forward to seeing you at the next debate as well. governor, thanks for joining us today. appreciate it. >> john, just remember something. it's early, it's early, and if people want to see truth be told go to chris christie.com and donate. that's what i want them to do. >> john: a lot can change between now and january. governor, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you, john. >> sandra: we want to alert in here, we are keeping a close eye on hurricane idalia, as it is getting stronger and moving closer and closer to florida's coast at this hour. set to make landfall in less than 24 hours and we are live in tallahassee with the very latest. >> john: and a judge ruling against the kappa kappa gamma sisters who sued over a

biological male who identifies as a woman from joining their sorority. they say it's not just a personal preference, it's a safety issue. >> kappa was formed over 100 years ago to be the support system for women to compete in the classroom against men and now we seize to exist. nothing more than an idea of self-identification.

dal. >> john: forecaster says idalia will grow into a category 3 hurricane before it makes landfall some time tomorrow morning. warnings and evacuation orders are in effect for much of florida's gulf coast. brandy campbell is in tallahassee, florida. a good chance it could good over you tomorrow. how are preparations looking there? >> well, right now we are at the

eoc, we have representatives from state departments as well as partners here working together to help florida prepare for this time. now, i want to point out most recently, desantis did update his emergency declaration including three more counties, so now it's going from 46 to 49 counties as idalia is expected to make landfall along florida's big bend region as a category 3 storm. desantis noted if it hits during wednesday morning's high tide cycle, places could get 8 to 12 feet in storm surge, and anyone staying is putting their lives in jeopardy. desantis just spoke in lake city, florida on this incoming danger. >> the storm surge is not something, you are not going to win that battle if you decide to stay, you stay behind for that. you run away from the water, and then you hide from the wind. you still have time to do that if you are in this big bend area, but time is running out very, very rapidly.

>> and over 20 counties do have evacuation orders listed with almost half of those mandatory. a note, meanwhile while the assets for emergency response are put in place, the u.s. coast guard are staging boats for response during and after idalia, 25,000 linemen are stationed with more on the way and 5500 florida national guardsmen will be activated, and that's just a few activations among a very long list as they get ready for idalia here in florida. back to you, john. >> john: make sure you hunker down and stay safe. appreciate the update. >> sandra: a major update in the lawsuit from university of wyoming sorority sisters over a transgender member joining their organization. a federal judge has dismissed the suit from members of kappa kappa gamma. the judge said the sorority

bylaws do not define what a woman is so the court could not interfere. but members allege uncomfortable incidents where our thomas langeford peeped in them on intimate situations. michele, we had an exchange at the white house, one of our own reporters was asked -- asked kamala harris where the president stands on this issue and various ways. what is happening here that these girls are reporting that this is happening and that it gets kicked back because a woman wasn't properly defined? >> well, i'll start with this. i think you are right. this is -- we are having a surge in this issue, right. and i think we need to ask ourselves some really tough questions why that is. why suddenly after the course of time in which you were born either a baby boy or a baby girl, suddenly now you are being

assigned a gender at birth. so the language is really changing, and i think that's one part of this. and it has been a sudden explosion, the last 5, 10 years. sororities are private enterprises. they should review their bylaws and define for each of themselves what a woman is if they want to avoid this controversy. but the problem is, i don't think any of them have the courage at the top, their board members to say here is what a woman is, here is what we are going to require for our membership. so you have these six sorority sisters filed this lawsuit, where are the rest of the women in this sorority? where are the rest of the women in kappa kappa gamma all over the nation when it comes to this issue? i think they are afraid to say this is a women's-only sorority, it's defined as a place for women, so we are not going to allow trans women, not biological women in, they don't

want to be seen as the bad guys. >> sandra: it's remarkable their concerns are not being taken seriously. they say they are peeped on, they say he states he's transgender and self-identifies as a woman, but it's not as a man living as a woman, in the complaint, other than occasionally wearing little effort, he makes little effort to look like a woman, plaintiffs say they often observe him with the facial hair one would expect a man who did not shave that morning or facial hair has regrown by the evening. just some of what we have heard on the importance of protecting female spaces, by the sorority members. >> never thought this would happen to me, especially in a sorority and a space for women. we were never told it was a unisex space, we joined ununder

the impression it was a single sex space. >> i was promised a sisterhood, you would assume would be women, and so for that to automatically change my senior year, it caught us all off guard. >> sandra: when you hear that, michele, how do you not have a feeling for them or reaction for them. the judge's ruling in refusing to have the court define a woman, michele, reads this. the delegate of a private organization interpreted woman, otherwise undidefined, the judg may not invade the expression of association and inject definition, plaintiffs urge. this was the exchange that just happened with one of our reporters at the white house. >> does he think it's fair for

girls to have to compete against biological males? >> i just answered the question. it is a complicated issue. it is truly a complicated issue with a wide range of views. a wide range of views. there is no yes or no answer to this. it is complicated. >> sandra: will there be serious political consequences for the president if he doesn't state precisely where he stands on this? >> i think so. and i think more women need to state precisely where they stand on this. we are seeing some very brave women, we always talk about riley gaines, come forward and say this is what a woman is, this is what a man is, this competition in sport is unfair. we have had martina, j.k. rowling, but where are all the other female athletes, the other sorority sisters. other six of them filed this lawsuit. where are the rest of the chapters in support of them and

where is the board, the kkg board in support of them saying hey, here is how we are going to define a woman. they left it to a judge, the judge did not want to do it and didn't have to do it. the organizations themselves need to step up and do it and until they do, these women should leave the sororities, leave the competitions where biological men are allowed and say enough. we fought for too long and we fought too hard for our rights and you are taking them away from us. >> sandra: michele, appreciate having you on. thanks so much. good to see you. >> thank you, sandra. >> the right to protest -- >> calm down! >> john: drama in the high desert of nevada. police plowing through climate protestors blocking traffic to the burning man festival. >> sandra: self-described anti-capitalists are reportedly

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and learning more about the victim, identified as zijie yan, associate professor in the applied physical sciences department. in the last hour, the suspect identified as tailei qi, graduate student, made his first court appearance. now first-degree murder and using a gun on education property chargers. no bond has been set. we also learned he was not a u.s. citizen but was here on a visa from china. investigators say it started around 1:00 yesterday about gunfire in a lab building in the heart of the unc campus. gunfire sent the campus into an hours' long lockdown, lasting some three hours. unc students could be seen jumping out of windows, running with their hands up. we spoke with a sophomore student who says she was among the last to be evacuated and still in shock over what happened yesterday. >> hearing like those words

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>> sandra: steve scalise revealing that he's been diagnosed with a treatable type of blood cancer. he hadn't been feeling himself. he was diagnosed with multiple

myeloma. he will undergo treatment. we wish him the best in his recovery. >> get on the ground! get on the ground! >> john: police in nevada getting national attention for driving a pickup truck through an eco test. the group was using a makeshift barricade to block this year's burning man. leading to a traffic jam that stretched for miles. christopher bedford from the common sense society. this was a really interesting piece of video that popped up the other day. climate activists were horrified

when they saw what happened here. when this police ranger drove his truck through a barricade. he was getting applauded from people on the internet as well. where do you come down on this? >> they're right to do that. they claim oh they kept saying it was nonviolent to track people for miles in the desert is a dangerous thing to do. it's not peaceful. it's a threat. causing traffic jams -- remember when governor chris christie was accused of causing traffic jams? >> fort lee on the g.w. bridge. >> this is something that is serious when you cause traffic. i think these climate activists found out something here. a lot of times they represent elite interests. calling for everyone else to sacrifice. but you go to these tribal lands, which maybe northeast people don't realize, it's a different set of laws. it's not u.s. police or courts or u.s. jails.

>> it's not the state or county police. >> they're not backed by the elites line. the one way they make money is mining, oil and gas. this is something that is important. when you go to these places, they're outside of america and mess with the economy, you find out. >> john: the protesters were from a ground that called themselves the same circles. it included members of the extinction rebellion according to an article, funded by the biggest names in hollywood. one of the things that they were protesting is the use of private jets to fly in to burning man. >> yeah, they're backed by leonardo dicaprio that spent the summer on a private yacht. i'm all for people having their say. generally they want to use government action to control your actions, how you drive, what you consume. they'll use their laptops which takes a barrel of oil to make to

try to disrupt that. the same time they also -- they really hurt people's lives. hurt their access to things. they've been active in europe the past couple years. some of the things they've been doing is vandalizing the fountain in rome. they vandalized art in paris. it removes our ability to celebrate things. now they're surrounded by security, glass. they take away a lot of the human experience. they say they're doing this in the name of the planet. at the end of the day, they're anti-human. >> john: i was driving to work down the george washington parkway taking photos of a scene that unfolded there. this is climate activist, people protesting the willow project, which biden green lighted in alaska. they had traffic on the g.w. parkway backed up a couple miles. the u.s. park police has jurisdiction over that piece of roadway. they treated the protesters gently. you can see there's a couple of

them. one in each lane blocking the traffic there. eventually they moved. i saw the same group of people blocking the exit to one of the tunnels that comes in to downtown d.c. so they are not against putting a lot of people in to a state of inconvenience to get their point across. and this tribal ranger just decided we have had enough of you. >> yeah, we're not doing that. these protesters, they're not trying to persuade. they're trying to disrupt. ask them what are you calling for? they say they're anti-capitalist. they're not trying to -- >> john: they can't go to beijing to protest, could they? >> no. what would you prefer? wind and solar? wind and solar may not be carbon intensive once they're up but it's credibly carbon intensive to build them. >> john: and new evidence citing

the wind mills may be killing the whales. >> yeah, causing -- >> john: where is greenpeace? >> yeah, they don't want to talk about hydro and nuclear. it's like the covid people on steroids. it's about control to solve problems outside of their means. >> john: we should point out the actions of this ranger are under review by the tribal council. >> no good deed goes unpunished. >> john: we'll see where it goes. thanks, chris. >> moments ago, the pentagon briefing. deputy press secretary sabrina sing defended the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan. >> u.s. military commanders on the ground in afghanistan made the decisions that they could with the information that they had at the time. they were fully given -- they were given the decision-making capability and were responding to threats on the ground in real time. so we're very proud of the work

that our commanders and service members did not just during the evacuation in the few weeks but over the 20-year war. >> sandra: that's what we just heard from the pentagon as we continue to hear from the gold star families that have been speaking out publicly about the decisions that went wrong and the many questions that they have that have gone unanswered. john? >> john: i remember being on the air with you that day. there were warnings about a suicide bomber. all of a sudden, the terrible, terrible tragedy happened. it's so frustrating for the families. they know a sniper had the bomber in his sights. it was not given the green light to take the shot. and if that green light had been given, how things might have changed in that situation. >> sandra: so many parents and loved ones are left wondering the very thing. they feel like they're not getting the communications from this white house that they feel they deserve. >> john: and they're meeting

today with bipartisan members of congress to talk more about this. remember the emotional testimony at that hearing that darrell issa conducted in california. that is one of those images that does not go away. sticks in your mind. >> sandra: all right, john. good to be with you. set your dvr. i'm sandra smith. >> john: and i'm john roberts. we'll see you tomorrow. "the story" starts right now. >> good afternoon. i'm trace gallagher in for martha maccallum on "the story." 49 counties in the state of florida now under a state of emergency as hurricane idalia heads to the coast of florida. officials warn it has the potential to be life threatening winds. it's projected to become a category three before making landfall. governor ron desantis is now urging residents to get out. >> in some of these areas like cedar key, some along the big bend, you're