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well-behaved. and we are so excited for the second republican primary debate, set for september 27th and will air on fox business. it will be moderated by stewart varney, dana perino, and i ilia calderon. >> vivek was completely wrong to say we have to choose between the border or protecting our national security. we do it all. >> i think what surprised me was how ridiculous many of vivek ramaswamy's ideas were. >> wrong on foreign policy. >> fact is vivek says one thing, does another. he looks to me to be the worst of what politicians are characterized to be. >> john: and the hits just keep on coming. presidential candidate vivek
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ramaswamy emerging as the new punching bag for many rivals following last week's debate. how will he navigate his campaign as he becomes the chief target? john roberts in washington. sandra, made it to the long weekend. >> sandra: we are warmed up and ready to go. this is "america reports". political newcomer gaining national attention during the first debate, propeling him on the polls. and he is behind desantis at 7.3%. >> john: he is not staying silent. ongoing feud with nikki haley ramping up after she slammed him for his foreign policy stances. >> sandra: vivek ramaswamy will have a chance to respond when he joins us in moments. but mark meredith is in washington. >> vivek ramaswamy had similar buzz after the first debate, no doubt about that, axios saying
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ramaswamy stood out as aag aggressive, and the others said he was shallow and annoying. nikki haley is criticizing some comments he made on monday, that he would not deploy u.s. service members to fight iran in the event iran attacks israel. haley team saying if he does not see the nuclear threat as a problem for security, he should get nowhere near the white house. and mike pence accusing ramaswamy of being inexperienced. during a campaign stop, pence was noted as saying i've known him a couple of years, he's just wrong. wrong on foreign policy, wrong on american leadership in the world and how to get the economy moving again. one notable person is a vivek
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fan, and that's donald trump. trump said he could be some form of something. i tell ya, i think he would be very g i think he's very good, i think he has distinguished himself. ramaswamy has been on the campaign trail this week, will continue throughout the holiday weekend. town hall tonight in new hampshire, and he's expected to barnstorm the granite state for the next several days. sandra. >> sandra: mark meredith from washington, thank you. >> john: let's get a response now, bring in republican presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy. good to talk to you. hope that you are about to have a very relaxing labor day weekend, ha ha ha. i wanted to ask you about this feud that you've got going on with nikki haley, she dinged you at the debate and other colleagues, and you fired back using her first name and maiden last name, even spelled her first name wrong. i expect it was not you that actually penned that tweet. why do that? >> well, look, a playful gest
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that she gets my name wrong, it rhymes with cake. we are having fun in the race. a real distinction, i think i'm the only candidate who is a non-neocon. i believe in asserting american interests but only where it advances the u.s. interest. very different from other candidates who would sooner send troops to defend invasion across somebody else's border than the invasion on our own southern border in this country. i worry that many in the neocon establishment are quietly marching us into world war iii, serious armed conflict with other nuclear powers, including the combination of the russia-china alliance. i am the only candidate in the race who has pointed out the alliance and the threat it poses
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and the clear plan to pull them apart from each other. everybody agrees men should not be swimming in women competition, we agree on that, but foreign policy distinguishes me from karl rove, nikki haley, mike pence, chris christie wing and i think that debate is good for our party. >> you did not mention donald trump in that, we'll ask you in a second. nikki haley was on the program a couple days ago and responded to the campaign misspelling her birth name where you also called her a liar. >> not going to get involved in these childish name games. it's pretty pathetic. first of all, i was born with nikki on my birth certificate, raised as nikki, i married a haley and so that is what my name is. so he can say or misspell or do whatever he wants but he can't step away from the fact that look, he's the one that said he was going to abandon israel. those were his words. now he's wanting to walk it back and the reality is you have to
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understand the importance of our allies and those relationships. we can never be so narcissitic to say we don't need friends. you can tell what kind of leader they would be based on how they run their campaign, he's doing it on his own. >> sandra: is it true to say you are walking back some claims and walking back -- >> not at all. not at all. i've stood firmly for advancing american interests. i've been very clear that our relationship with israel by the end of my first term will be stronger than it has ever been because i will treat it as a true friendship. not a transactional relationship. i don't talk in the way standard gop talking points advise you to speak but speaking with authenticity. take the abraham accords to the next level, add saudi arabia, o man, indonesia to the pact. make sure iran never comes close
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to a nuclear weapon. we have to work with israel to make sure that happens and i have said we would back israel fully, militarily. but i don't want our sons and daughters, u.s. troops to die in that conflict. and if they are going to distort that to say i'm not going to stand for israel i'm happy to have the debate where nikki haley or mike pence or chris christie can state how many u.s. soldiers they would like to see die in that conflict. oh, wait, i've asked that question and have not gotten a response. yes, we stand with israel and you know what, from my part i want to learn from our friends in israel. i would love their border policies and tough on crime and strong national identity and missile defense system like they have in this country. and so i admire and respect our friends. i'll have bee bee over to the white house in a way that joe biden couldn't. but not the way that standard partisan republicans are by the way they get from our super
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pacs. it will make our relationship with foreign partners and friends that much more authentic. >> john: taiwan and the other is ukraine, and russia, and that conflict. you've said you would fully back taiwan until the u.s. is independent with semiconductors. what happens after that point. give taiwan to china? >> let's get real here. the u.s. -- position -- one of embracing. >> john: that's what you said, vivek, you've said that you would back taiwan. >> not say that we would hand them over to china. >> john: that was my question. what you have said is we willful i back taiwan until we become independent in semiconductor production. my question is what happens after that? >> after which point, after which point we resume the status quo, which is strategic ambiguity. the status quo, the u.s. embraces the one china policy, both republicans and democrats. every other republican in that
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race, one china policy, refusing to call taiwan a nation. president trump was derided by both parties for picking up a phone call from the taiwanese president. that's our current status quo with respect to china. i think it's insufficient. i think we have to be crystal clear that we will defend taiwan, so i'm upgrading to strategic clarity saying that absolutely we will defend taiwan until we get semiconductor independence, that's why taiwan matters most to the u.s. they provide the chips that power our modern way of life. after that resume the current status quo. >> john: support a robust democracy off china's shores? >> i think we should support them more than we are now. john, remind you, oh, absolutely, but the fact of the matter is the current u.s. establishment in both parties, including the republican party, does not even recognize taiwan as a nation right now. one china is our policy.
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john, that's a character, it's laughable, when taiwan is a nation we will defend it until and unless we have semiconductor independence and then resume the status quo, that's honest. that's clear. and that is actually a more strong taiwan posture than either party has offered and again, this takes an outsider to call out the bluff. the fact that trump couldn't pick up a phone call from the taiwanese president before being derided, the same people saying because i say i'll defend taiwan but clear until it has semiconductor -- you have to understand the status quo. >> sandra: we have seen you embrace the former president and he's stepping up and showing some support for you. a young interesting candidate he's referring to you as. if you were to continue to climb in the polls he could be a competitor for you on the gop primary stage. how do you differentiate yourself? we know your similarities. where do you differentiate yourself with the former president donald trump?
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>> i'm 38 years old. i have fresh legs. we are reaching the next generation of young americans. that is why i can win this election in a landslide in a way that no other candidate can. look at the way we are running this campaign. i've gone to the inner city of chicago, kensington in the middle of philadelphia, places where traditional republican candidates dare not touch. we are leaving no state left behind, no city left behind, no american left behind. already building a multi-ethnic working class coalition and i think this cannot be a 50 point won election. i think it has to be a landslide moral mandate like ronald reagan delivered in 1980. what i'm aiming to do in 2024. >> sandra: does that mean you are directly aligned with his policies? i didn't hear a difference other than age. >> we have some areas of differences but they are small. we are the america first candidates, everybody else embraces the neocon view.
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we are on policy 90% of the way, i would rescind affirmative action. militarize the border instead of the wall, and details. but the main differences i will be able to unite this country by leading the next generation of americans to a vision of what it means to be an american. revive national pride in that next generation where it is lacking. i think we have an opportunity to reunite this country around our shared ideals and that will allow me to take the america first agenda even further than donald trump did by building on what i think is a very good foundation that he laid. and so the fact that i'm not running against him, that does not mean anything. i'm running for this country and that's going to lead us to national unity. that's my job and i expect to do it as the next president. >> john: lots to talk about in the days and weeks ahead.
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have a good labor day weekend. >> thank you. >> john: and mark your calendar. fox business network will be hosting the second republican presidential debate from the ronald reagan presidential library. that will be on september 27th. >> sandra: new report revealing a potential conflict of interest during a key period in the hunter biden investigation. appears to be another prosecutor allowed to investigate the president's son even though he had extensive ties to the biden family. outkick columnist mary katherine ham will dig into revelations next. >> john: and president biden insisting bidenomics is working for the labor market. but new wage rules, construction companies worry it will put them out of business. we will speak with an owner of a
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>> people are coming off the sidelines getting back to their workplaces. job satisfaction is higher than it's been in 36 years. >> sandra: the president touting bidenomics after the release of the brand-new jobs reports this morning. u.s. economy beating expectations by adding 187,000 jobs last month, but the headline unemployment rate did tick up to 3.8%. marking the biggest increase since the early days of the pandemic. and now the biden administration is rolling out more proposals that could make it more difficult for businesses to hire
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workers. let's bring in our panel, charlie, fox business senior correspondent and john is owner of gateway plumbing and heating. here is the thing, charlie, and your voice as we are coming in, still talking in the background, but you cover wall street and you obviously have your ear to the ground with what's happening on main street as far as the demand and the work. first off, the reaction to this jobs report, if you were watching various networks or headlines, it's hard to determine what one should make of this report. what are you hearing, what's your analysis? >> this is a time when you can look at the stock market. what is the stock market doing from this, and saying much of the same. it's not that big a deal. i will say this. you have to put together different types of numbers. headline unemployment rate ticked up, sometimes that's when people are more confident and are looking for jobs. >> sandra: sometimes, yeah. >> slowdown in job crea artificial intelligence that was clear. we would be having revisions,
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revising job creation down over the last couple months, so that reflects a possible slowdown. the feds inflation gauge out yesterday, personal consumption index or something along those lines, preferred one ticked up, so inflation is still high. here is the interesting thing and john should talk about this. people keep saying the -- why joe biden is so afraid of cornell west, intellectual attacking him how he's not taking care of the working class. inflation rate might be coming down, prices are still high. >> sandra: amen, important distinction. >> and wages according to this report still are not ticking up. >> sandra: and the president said that in a speech, he said inflation is back to pre-pandemic levels. no, the growth of inflation is what he is referencing. prices have still gone up and are going up. rate at which they are increasing is slowing. great to have you here.
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you see the work demand, and the ability you have to meet that demand with workers, with supply. what are you seeing on the ground right now? >> we still have the same issue we talked about before, i don't have qualified -- i have qualified workers but i need more, they are not there. my labor rates have risen. people come to work and ask for salaries that we have never paid before and we are paying them now. we have to. no one is going to show up, you know, and prices we pay for copper and steel, cast iron products, cast iron boilers and pipe is all through the roof. it went up, peaked at some point and has never come down, it has not come back down. >> that's why wages are not rising fast enough. he brings the point. his prices that you have to buy your materials are so high, sometimes you can't pay the wages that they are demanding and that's the problem with having so much money sloshing
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around the economy and i will say this. there's a reason why bidenomics is not selling, and it's because of what he just said. people are demanding more wages, you can't give them exactly what they want to meet the price increases because your prices are going up. one problem with joe biden has with re-election, many problems, obviously, one huge hole is the bidenomics thing, it's not selling and he has pressure from the progressive left making the points not in the economic terms but the class warfare terms. >> sandra: we keep saying who is advising him when it comes to the economy. there are some bright spots and make sure we highlight those, we want people to prosper but this this is jared bernstein, adviser to the president on real wages. listen to this. >> look, the fed's going to do what it's going to do. from our perspective, we want households to have some breathing room, want the real wages to keep going up. >> sandra: real wages are down. they are down more than 3% and
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that is a fact, and i also want to highlight this talking about the jobs report this morning, we often talk about real wages, right. it's wages accounting for inflation, which is still very real. how about the real unemployment -- real unemployment rate. we have the headline rate, which we reported on this morning going up to 3.8%. real unemployment rate includes those that are discouraged, or underemployed. perhaps somebody working part-time because of the economic environment we are in. here is julie su, she is the acting labor secretary for the president on the unemployment number this morning. listen. >> this jump in unemployment is due entirely to more people coming into the labor market. i think that's a sign of, you know, optimism, people looking for jobs, it's different from unemployment rate that rises because people got laid off. >> sandra: after covering this
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for many years, there is not a way you can account for every one of those. i wanted to hear from you directly because you are experiencing this labor force under this president. what would it take to get things better? what's a solution for you to get those, the skilled labor back that you need to help you prosper? >> i think we need to return to a time when we encourage young people to go into the trades. what happened to shop class, you know. i have people who are 18 years old, 20 years old, sending their resumes or want to get hired and i do hire them because i don't have a lot of options, but i'm teaching them what a wrench is, like they don't know what tools are. and you know, forget about that you have to be there at 7:00 in the morning, that's very difficult. >> sandra: do you think we ever get back to that? >> i can't imagine. a generational thing -- i can't imagine. >> i think we can. i think we can. >> sandra: the optimist charlie. >> if you give people the right incentives they will do this. >> is the incentive not money?
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>> incentive right now out of the white house is not to cut taxes, not to lessen the regulatory burden, but to tax businesses and on top of that, raise interest rates so you lead to recession. this is like what's going on here. good luck on that in a couple months. >> sandra: wow. this was a very -- >> we actually know each other. >> sandra: i was going to say, you are acting like brothers. >> we hung out with each other, i didn't recognize him at first. >> sandra: charlie, you are so funny. great for having you and your side of the business, important to get that in. if i could, john, tell the team to give a head's up, cf1 and cf2 back, the construction jobs added and unfilled in august really talks about the story we just heard here. construction jobs, 22,000 were added in august, ok. but there's 363 unfilled positions, and to go to the point about the high demand for the skilled laborers out there,
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job postings over the past three months, stone masons, up 45%. carpenter, up 23%. labor up 18%. there is work out there to be had but the skilled workers are hard to finds and that is a huge trending story right now, john. >> john: if he's looking for a plumber, i think there was a governor in south dakota who knows how to yield a plumber's wrench. >> i saw those commercials. she did not do that well. >> sandra: oh, dear. >> john: she did say she was a terrible plumber. >> sandra: john and charlie, thank you so much. i wouldn't be good at either. >> i would be lousy at it. >> sandra: the pentagon is touting the new website as a one stop shop for declassified information on ufos. how the site will work and what you can expect to see on that. that's coming up. >> john: plus more questions about impartiality in the hunter biden probe after a new report reveals a doj official with close ties to the biden family
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>> john: concerns about a potential conflict of interest in the hunter biden probe as we learn a doj official with ties to the biden family could have been in a position to influence the investigation. according to the washington examiner, nicholas mcquaid was a partner at the law firm handling hunter biden's defense before joining the biden justice department. they say he did not represent the president's son but did work closely with christopher clark
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who until recently was hunter biden's lead defense attorney. mary katherine ham, when we look at the case, a lot of potential conflicts of interest, the latest layer of the onion. >> are those innocent conflicts of interest or redacted emails that came to the heritage foundation when they suggested this, or requested it, suggests there is not a ton of transparency here, like the doj wants to say sure, we are 1° of separation from hunter's defense lawyer, he did not actually work with him on hunter's case but did work with him on other cases and trust us, everything is fine, he's going to be the assistant a.d. on the criminal area where we are dealing with this case. if this were the one thing that we had questions about with hunter biden case, then fine. but it's not the one thing. there has been a sort of a systematic attempt to shield hunter biden, to cover him, to
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protect him from certain charges. and it seems quite obvious to me that people are well within their rights to ask questions about this, that many journalists should have asked about it instead of what they did was saying to chuck grassley and senator johnson your investigation is silly. but what we are finding and the stuff matters. >> john: the pile is starting to get higher. no indication that nicholas mcquaid worked on the hunter biden investigation during his time at the doj, but here is what axios said in february of 2021, when it first became apparent mcquaid was working for the doj. while the investigation is being run by the u.s. attorney's office in delaware, that doesn't necessarily preclude involvement by justice department sections in washington. and he was heading up the criminal division at that point, temporarily. he was in position to know what was going on. >> they are welcome to make the argument this is the way of doing business and obviously the
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paths will cross but you need to be transparent about this and the doj seems allergic to being transparent about that, and so it seems suspicious to me, seems like something that perhaps when you are trying to regain trust from the public you would want to be transparent about, but i'm not sure anybody is looking to regain trust at this point. >> john: congress was suspicious as well and asked david weiss's office for potential conflicts of interest. apparently the doj actually become involved in this and said look, you are the -- you are the u.s. attorney, now special prosecutor, for the area of delaware, but we'll handle this. and all along weiss was saying oh, no, i've got independence. merrick garland said oh, no, weiss has independence and the doj said we will handle this. >> when the more serious questions come up he has to hand it off, doj steps in and said whoa whoa whoa, getting serious questions about this, we will handle the questions. to me that does not say that
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they are being forthright with everyone. >> john: yeah, well -- as we said, it's a very big onion with a lot of layers. >> we are going to keep peeling, man. >> john: who knows if we will ever get to the core of this, sandra. >> sandra: great to have mary katherine ham here. the pentagon is launching a new website on ufos, easily access declassified photos and videos. users will be able to eventually report their own sightings. chief national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon. a big year for unidentified aerial phenomena now we'll have new access. what do we know? >> that's right, sandra. the issue of whether there is life out there, whether ufos exist or as the pentagon likes to call them, uaps has obsessed the public since the first air man came forward five years ago and said they were seeing things
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they could not understand. after months of delay the pentagon has launched a website where the public and the members of the military can report any suspected ufos. they were required to do so by congress under the 2023 national defense authorization act after videos like this began to appear. the website what is you would ca the all domain anomaly resolution office has finally been made public. >> what you see today is what has been declassified to date. it's focused on the facts, taking in information, reviewing the facts and then when possible, you know, declassifying that information and making it available. >> it was so popular that the website crashed last night. it's back up now. this website will provide information, including videos and photos on unresolved uap cases approved for public release. other content includes reporting trends and frequently asked
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questions section as well as links to official reports, transcripts, press releases and other resources. kathleen hicks is now overseeing the pentagon's uab or ufo investigation team. she will hold weekly meetings with sean kirkpatrick overseeing the congressionally mandated website which will provide a secure mechanism by which users can submit their own reports of unidentified aerial phenomena. sandra. >> sandra: very interesting, jennifer griffin, thank you. >> john: a manhunt is underway after a convicted killer breaks out of a philadelphia area prison. minutes away from an official update from police. we will bring you that live once it begins. plus this. >> we are seeing very good progress, we are not done, we will keep doing our part to make sure that the airlines are doing theirs to keep cancellation rates and disruptions going down.
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>> sandra: transportation secretary pete buttigieg brushing off transportation troubles this weekend. and jeff flock at o'hare international airport, did the secretary say anything about the near misses happening lately? >> actually, he did, sandra, he talked about the good and the bad of air travel over the course of the past year, and
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mostly good today, i think. this ought to be a pretty decent labor day holiday. the busiest air travel summer in history, topping everything pre-pandemic and the secretary said on the positive side he thinks delays as a result of problems with air traffic control have been down, released some numbers which indicate between 2 and 3% of delays this year have been because there are short numbers of air traffic controllers, most as a result of weather, which of course is usually the case anyway. but he did address near misses. those have been up 25% this year, what they call close calls, and while he admitted they are serious, he does not have an answer as to why that is the case. take a listen. >> we have seen a noticeable increase in serious close calls, and the only acceptable number of these is 0. the truth is, there is no single cause or single issue that explains it. sometimes we have seen issues
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with pilots, sometimes we have seen issues with controllers, sometimes we have seen an issue with ground crews. >> they also released numbers on the numbers of cancellations. last summer was a total disaster with cancellations, but that number have been cut in half from about 2.6% of flights last year, to 1.3% this year, and a final piece of good news, money is always important to us, and apparently a ticket this labor day costs about 11% less than last time. $236. i always book the last minute, i don't think i've ever paid $236 for a round trip ticket. i always pay 500 or something like that, stupid. >> sandra: truth, jeff. i know the entrance at o'hare all too well. >> you've been through this many times, haven't you. >> sandra: many times. >> always happy to have you back here, you know. >> you bet, you bet, i'll let you know the next time.
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thanks, jeff. >> john: justice clarence thomas releasing his records for the last year, is the push biased. shannon bream coming up. >> sandra: plus texas imposing a law that bans children from changing their gender. a new analysis shows more of our youth are experiencing gender dysphoria. what is the rise behind that? dan crenshaw has some thoughts. he'll join us to discuss next. [ tense music ] one aleve works all day so i can keep working my magic. just one aleve. 12 hours of uninterrupted pain relief. aleve. who do you take it for? and for fast topical pain relief, try alevex.
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>> sandra: a new law banning gender changing care for minors is going into law in texas. a lower court issued a temporary injunction, texas congressman dan crenshaw says it's actually pseudo science and has a bill to block funding for any children's hospital that gives the care to minors. can you please explain, sir. >> thanks for having me. a couple parts to this. first, let's start with the so-called science of transitioning a minor into a different gender. there is no science backing that
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up. there's no science showing that there's these benefits associated with doing these therapies, whether it's puberty blockers, hormone therapy or surgical interventions. it's quite the opposite. all the systematic reviews, the gold standard of evidence-based care which looks at all of the different studies and puts them together and analyzes them properly shows little to no evidence that there is any benefits to this whatsoever. so you are imposing a very, very drastic change, physiological permanent change on a child and you can't show any benefits. it's a really big problem. we have done at the federal level, introduced a bill and gotten it to the house floor, we'll have the debate soon whether we are going to fund children's hospitals programs, their graduate medical education programs if they are doing these kinds of transitions. and look, that's how you fight in a divided government. you have to take must-pass bills like this, funding for the hospitals and attach our own values to it.
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that's what we are doing. >> john: last count, that amount of money was more than $15 billion in continuing medical -- graduate medical education, a significant amount of money. we wonder about statistics on gender dysphoria. the british medical journal said this recently, more adolescents with no history of gender dysphoria are presenting at gender clinics. a recent analysis of insurance claims found nearly 18,000 u.s. minors began taking puberty blockers or hormones from 2017 to 2021, with the number rising each year. what do you, congressman, believe is behind this rise? >> well, look, there was another study that shows if you know somebody who is transgender you are seven times more likely to identify as such. you don't want to belittle the issue too much but it is kind of like a trend, right. just like you see people wearing something you want to wear the same thing, see people doing something, you want to do the same thing.
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in this case it's more psychological. you feel like teenage angst, you feel anxiety, depression, whatever you are feeling, and you are looking for a reason why. and so people start looking on the internet, where the internet comes in and social media comes in, and why you might be feeling this way. go down the rabbit hole, this path, and more and more people start to identify as such. it becomes the explanation that they were looking for. it becomes the cause they were looking for. it has become a social contagion, fueled by social media and easy access to the internet and a lot of groups telling people dishonest things, only 1% chance you'll regret it. that's -- those are not well done studies. these are bogus studies that doctors are telling parents and children and people need to know about this. >> sandra: perhaps it's one perspective. also the perspective of those who have gone through these changes, and one notable piece
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of testimony was from chloe cole on the consequences she suffered from gender transition. listen. >> my voice will forever be deeper, my jaw line sharper, my nose longer, my bone structure permanently masculine, adam's apple more prominent, my fertility unknown. i look in the mirror sometimes and i feel like a monster. >> sandra: and considering that, and so many other voices out there who have gone on the record saying they severely regret their decision to change, why do you believe those who support this so much aren't willing to listen? >> i -- i wish i knew the answer to that. people ask me. do democrat colleagues really believe the things they are saying, do they quietly, after the hearing is over, say to you oh, man, like i don't know how we of got backed into this corner. they didn't believe this stuff ten years ago, nobody did, nobody thought it was a good
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idea to do a double mastectomy on a 12-year-old girl ten years ago. and now they don't think labotomy is good. and i have interviewed chloe, i know chloe, doctors lied to her parents, told her parents only 1% chance she would regret it, based on a totally bogus study. took advantage of her, oh, you have anxiety, you must be a different gender. it's crazy and time for us to speak out and say it's crazy. >> john: chloe also says her parents were told given her mental state of mind, you are going to end up with a dead daughter or transgender boy. so she says that she was pressured into it. >> it's malpractice. >> john: yeah. congressman, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. it's always an interesting story to discuss. >> sandra: thank you,
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congressman. >> john: california business owners desperate for something to be done about rising crime. why are state lawmakers considering a bill that retailers say will make it even worse and call it a "invitation to steal." >> sandra: another season of college football officially kicking off without any national standards to protect athletes' name, image and likeness rights. why isn't congress any closer to tackling that issue? that's coming up. if your moderate to severe crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms are stopping you in your tracks... choose stelara® from the start... and move toward relief after the first dose... with injections every two months. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if you need a vaccine. pres, a rare, potentially fatal brain condition,
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>> john: live to chester county, pennsylvania, well, that's not what we are looking for there. i thought we were going to pennsylvania, but i guess we are not. a rise of smash and grab crime has business owners pleading for help in california. despite this, state lawmakers are considering a bill that
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retailers say will give criminals a license to steal. william is live in los angeles. william, what do bill supporters want out of this? >> well, john, supporters say average employees should not have to confront shoplifters because it's dangerous. retailers say maybe so, but that's insane and here is why they say that. california police generally don't respond to theft under $950. it's a misdemeanor. so, stores are on their own. but now sacramento democrats are pushing the bill that fines businesses if employees intervene to stop theft. >> it's not ok for an employer to take a rank and file worker and say hey, you know, if there's an intruder, we are going to deputize you to be the one to intervene. >> it's not enough that we decriminalize property crime but now he's saying you can't stop criminals from stealing, taking your property. >> so hundreds rallied thursday at the state capital, many family-owned b
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