>> harris: this is "outnumbered," i'm harris faulkner here with emily compagno. joins us rachel campos duffy, fox news contributor dr. nicole saphier and "fox and friends first" co-host todd piro is here. start with hunter biden latest legal troubles. just weeks after his sweetheart

plea deal fell,a part, david weiss said he will indict hunter biden by the end of this month. many are now calling out weiss's investigation for not mentioning the biden family overseas dealings. james comer is demanding e-mails from the national archive which show joe biden's involvement in hunter biden's business. >> i think everybody in america needs to be paying close attention to this. they tried to sneak something through once, we need to make sure they don't do it again. again, this is the least of all the crimes that hunter biden has committed, this investigation has proven that joe biden has lied dozens of times to the american people. we will head to court as our

subpoenas going more advanced with respect to specific biden bank account and biden correspondence that national archive is preventing us from having. >> harris: despite president biden constantly denying he has any knowledge of his son's business deals, american people feel otherwise. new cnn poll finds majority of americans, 61%, believe joe biden was involved with hunter biden foreign dealings while serving as then vice president. todd. >> todd: before we give david weiss credit for legal fortitude. he had no choice but to bring this. the judge what is going on with the plea deal, you have to do something with the gun charge. what he should have brought years ago was tax charge, that has been dismissed by the judge, that charge would have gotten

hunter and joe, keep that in mind. >> harris: emily, is there a way to access that information in an investigation if there is impeachment inquiry on tax fraud? >> emily: yes, with some limi limi limitation exceptions. that is why this is relevant and valid. andy mccarthy pointed out what americans need to keep in mind during this operation by the special counsel. you say you are going to indict, why haven't you? it is a simple charge. if any of us were under the gun, it would have gone faster because it is quite simple. weiss testified to the whistleblower that said my hands were tied and i was getting mixed messages. we were getting blocked by jurisdictions. that gun charge is simple and in

the delaware jurisdiction. when you hear i'm going to do this, like your friend talks about, i'm going to go to the gym, my diet starts tomorrow. just do it. one week before a grand jury. >> harris: i love how you talk about this -- >> todd: talking about me. >> harris: like a new year's resolution, like it is an option to have justice in america. rachel. >> rachel: this was the least of the crimes as you pointed out, the gun charge. the charges that would lead to joe biden have not been brought forward. look at comer, comer and republicans are doing all they can. our system, i shouldn't say our system, democrats who are in charge of national archive won't hand over e-mails to lead this investigation, break it wide open and show joe biden's connection. so you go, what else can you do? what can somer do?

well, the republicans could get together and say we're going to defund or greatly reduce the amount of funding to agencies, whether it is the doj that is trying to give maximum punishment to republicans, including our leading candidate and republican voters and then let democrats off the hook, starting with hunter, little prince-ling. and the case we are finding out about a protester who was an arsonist who lit a building on fire and a father died with five children and he got 10 years and then a proud boy got 22 years. we have two-tier system of government of justice and we need to get to the bottom of this. republicans need to do more than beg for papers from the departments that have the

evidence. >> harris: nicole, i thought senator cruz did a wonderful job laying this out, why it is important to the american people. i don't care about hunter biden and his nasty youtube videos. i don't care. what i care about, did he put his father into a position where he could be bribed and taken advantage of or was he promising favors? that is the part we need to know about. it is not about hunter. >> right, i don't know if we will see that, they are not investigating that. i will leave the legal intricacies to emilys and todd, our legal counsel. cnn is starting to cover this. we went from censoring everything for the biden family to outlets beginning to talk about it. what is starting to happen, you will see democrats talk about ties with the biden family and

criminal charges, not because they care, because they don't want joe biden to run. up to 70% of democrats don't want joe biden to run. only person less popular than biden is vp harris. they want them out. we might be at a turning point, this might be the demise of biden running in 2024 again. >> harris: what about the part of the indictment coming from david weiss to hunter biden? will we see coverage and all of the fascination on the left and coverage like they have of former president trump? i'm always curious, how will they cover hanging out with hunter biden after he's indicted? >> todd: i will play contrarian, i think the main-stream media will look at this and say this is our opportunity to shut up the fox news of the world. we can cover this and provide equal coverage, when in reality and i think emily would agree,

there is limited chance he will see jail time on this charge. i love the point you made referencing andy mccarthy's article, saying we would bring it in three weeks. they announced it yesterday, they could have brought it yesterday after five years of delay. >> harris: what is the gap? >> emily: tax dollars are being wasted while a machine is protecting the president's family, bottom line. >> harris: okay. new york city mayor eric adams is warning the illegal immigrant crisis could destroy his city as we know it. new york city, really? you hung out the shingle as a sanctuary, didn't you think they would come? ♪ (ella) fashion moves fast.

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♪ >> emily: new warning over the raging migrant crisis thanks to president biden border policy. new york city is nearing a breaking point. the mayor eric adams says the city is being overrun by illegal immigrants. over 10,000 migrants arrive each month and the numbers are going up with each passing day. a dams warned that the crisis could destroy new york city as we know it. >> let me tell you something, new yorkers, never in my life have i had a problem that i did not see an ending to. i don't see an ending to this.

i don't see an ending to this. this issue will destroy new york city. destroy new york city. we are getting 10,000 migrants a month. one time we were just getting venezuela, now we're getting ecuador, russia-speaking coming through mexico, getting western africa, getting people from all over the globe made their mind up they will come through the southern part of the border and come into new york city and everyone is saying, it is new york city's problem. every community in this city is going to be impacted, it will come to your neighborhoods. all of us will be impacted by this. i said it last year when we had 15,000, i'm telling you now with

110,000, the city we knew, we are about to lose. >> emily: todd, incredibly powerful statement and real position for the mayor to take. this city has already been destroyed. >> todd: the problem with what he said is when he is saying it. a phrase joe concha and i use, some might say abuse, welcome to the party, pal, a line from "die hard." president joe biden you campaigned for you, you worked on his behalf because you didn't want trump and you sanctioned the sanctuary city. he is right, it will hit every community in the surrounding area and throughout the country, but again, it is joe biden's fault you campaigned and ran on democratic policies, so in the

end, isn't it your fault, too? >> emily: you covered this last hour, too, harris. >> harris: we did, both sides of his mouth, 22-year veteran on the nypd. mayor adams campaigned on letting illegals vote. we don't know who he is and i'm sure democrats don't care, especially the one in the white house. they are deaf to his machination and all that he is going through right now, deaf to it because it doesn't fit the president's politics in an election year. if it did fit, maybe he would pay attention to it. i don't know who mayor eric adams is talking to, the wide republic, you are right, you can feel it, see it, know he is here. if talking to people on the left, he said he was going to rule this, lead this sanctuary city, this is a sanctuary state, where does he think he is?

>> emily: he talks about blame, blame everyone but himself. listen to what he said is responsible for the migrant explosion here. >> we turned this city around in 20 months. then what happened? started with a madman down in texas, decided he wanted to bus people up to new york city. 110,000 migrants. we have to feed, clothe, house, educate the children, wash their laundry sheets, giver them everything they need. >> emily: rachel, madman down in texas is responsible and "new york times" comes out with this. of roughly 111 million living in the states, most began their new lives with a trip from border city or airport usually paid for

by relative, aid group or their savings, not the texas governor. perhaps lay the blame in the own mirror or in the white house. >> rachel: i've been to the airport in el paso, i was traveling with fox, my producer and i couldn't get on a flight, but illegal immigrants got on the flight. we're paying for it. the biden administration is paying for last leg of the journey for the cartel, once they get here, we pay for them to go wherever they want to go. they are paying $2200 per family and we are finding out they are double dipping, families divide up and say this is our family, this is our family. they are getting $2400. what i saw with mayor adams was complete east coast, new york city narcissism.

new york city am be destroyed, what does he think has been happening in the southern border? those tiny towns have been dealing with this for years and it has been magnified since joe biden has been in office. i didn't hear him say the word biden at all in the speech he gave. it is intentional, go to the border, i've talked to everybody, they say this is intentional. >> rachel and i are from the border states. there is a crisis. mayor adams started talking about venezuela and southern american migrants. you can't talk about border crisis without acknowledging this. 600% increase in venezuelan migrants. president biden comes into

office and been with the sanctions, we will lessen sanctions if they hold elections. if you can't be hard on countries and push forward, we'll have a migrant crisis, good question for upcoming debate, talk about what to do about south america. we have weak immigration policy, we don't have a physical structure and we have nothing when it comes to venezuela and the rest of the world? >> rachel: aoc was on tour meeting with the bad actors in latin america giving basically enabling all of them and these are same leftist countries who are aligning with china. we have a massive problem in the democratic party. >> emily: we do. to be clear, the mayor did hit biden in his speech, he laid the table for the nice generous helping of destruction of the city temperature is concert, white house, federal government

in concert with sanctuary cities and failed democratic policy. >> todd: hate has no home here on your legislative front lawn and not walking the walk when somebody comes to your door. >> emily: that is right. more to come, a new poll shows one republican candidate would defeat president biden in hypothetical match up, we'll tell you who that candidate is next. ♪ veteran homeowners. do you know what's taking a big bite out of family budgets? car loans. car loans used to have lower rates and took just a few years to pay off. now rates can be 12 to 15% and take five years or more to pay off. get a newday 100 va cash out loan at lower mortgage rates to pay off those high rate car loans. own your car and have no more monthly car payments.

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with a clear advantage over our current commander-in-chief. the poll shows haley leading biden 49 to 43% while all other gop candidates failed to emerge out of dead heat race. haley rise is not hypothetical, she is seeing gains. new hampshire poll shows haley tied for second among gop candidate gaining support alongside florida governor ron desantis. the poll found both are running well behind former president donald trump. harris, what do you make of this 1234 >> harris: it doesn't shock me completely, at one point when she left the white house, hers was a cabinet level, that was something former president did, put that un ambassadorship as cabinet level position. when she left, she was one of america's most popular politicians.

i asked her why she didn't run then. she didn't want to run against her bos. can she talk about abortion, like she did on fox news debate in deeper way than anybody else on stage that night like getting into why things are this and legislature can't do what mike pence and others say it can. can she get back? we don't know yet, it doesn't shock me every republican is running hotter than president biden right now. it is anybody, but biden. we already know that. even democrats know that. it is closer for some than others, we'll continue to watch it. trump and desantis are beating him, too. >> emily: rachel, what is important about this statistic with nikki haley, it is outside the margin of error and has surety other candidates don't. harris brings up fox news debate, her poll went up after

that, some argue it was because of specificity harris mentioned. she said here is reality of passing pro life movement legislation, here is what we must do. what are your thoughts on that? >> rachel: i agree, anybody up against joe biden, if you are conservative, they will picnic nick. nikki haley, seems like pre-2016 cabinet candidate. she is a neo-conand i think base republicans are looking at nikki haley and looking at both parties, we have a war party, they are democrats. i think republicans want to remake their party as party that puts america first, tries to stay out of war and problems. that is how i feel. i'm a recovered republican who thought i was down with the iraq

war, i got lied to. i said i will never do that again. look at the afghanistan war, i'm disgusted by what happened and lives that were lost there, i don't want any more of this. she is a nice lady, classic neo-concandidate and i think the party is not there. look at top three candidates, vivek ramaswamy, america first candidate, vivek ramaswamy, trump, desantis, he is waffly on it, too, he is not in hard core neo-concategory like nikki haley. >> emily: 67% want a different democratic candidate in 2024. this was the democratic poll. talking about it earlier and you said anybody, but biden. this has significant impact on potentially now nikki haley's emergence or surge behind her numbers now. >> certainly and nikki haley

said it best, this won'ting haley v biden, it will be haley v harris. compare these two women or candidate and no comparison, haley demonstrated leaderability and i believe this poll, i believe she will win. can she capture hearts of republicans in the primary? to rachel's point, she is more of a conventional republican and look at polling, american republicans do not seem to want that conventional politician. that is why they continue to support trump and i think desantis and vivek, we'll see what happens. >> harris: can i scoot in here, you are right, it will be kamala harris versus whoever it is going to be. get it right for republicans, some have to fall away so they can narrow down the field and

get to issues they have to beat the left on. vote for biden is a vote for kamala harris. let's face it. >> rachel: great point, todd, this cnn poll, talking about american republicans, what about american democrats? they are polling, majority of them want anyone, but biden, is it nikki haley they would feel safest and best with if they had to end up with a republican candidate? that is the interesting thing, maybe democratic view of harris versus haley. >> todd: i think yes and i think the reason is one reason and one issue only, which helps her win the republican primary, parental rights. she's knocked it out of the park on parental rights and i'm a proud papa bear, i will fight to the death for my child, something about a mama bear saying we need to fight for every kid in america. that will get republicans to

cross to her, but definitely democrats and republicans put kids number one. >> rachel: this chesting never works, party should go where the heart is, it goes better this way. >> emily: kamala harris is ready to drop vice from vice president saying she is more than ready to take over for president biden. we called it here. that is next. ♪ (vo) you were diagnosed with thyroid eye disease a long time ago. and year after year, you weathered the storm and just lived with the damage that was left behind. but even after all this time your thyroid eye disease could still change. restoration is still possible. learn how you could give your eyes a fresh start at tedhelp.com.

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♪ >> harris: concerns are top of mind for voters as president biden gets ready to turn 81 next month. vice president harris answering to if something were to happen. here she is. >> question of the president's age go hand in hand how you would step into the role if necessary. do you feel prepared for that possibility, for that job? >> yes. >> and how would you describe that process? >> which process? >> being ready for that -- >> first of all, i'm answering your hypothetical. joe biden will be fine, so that is not going to come to fruition, let us understand every vice president, every vice president understands when they take the oaths, they must be very clear about the responsibility they may have to take over the job of being

president. i am no different. >> harris: this is most clear i've heard her answer that question, is there meaning to you in that? >> rachel: fair answer, perfectly fine answer for kamala harris to give. kudos to kamala on that one. democrats are in a hard place. a lot of people don't think joe biden will make it past december, i interviewed jason chaffetz and he said joe biden has 10 staffers, that doesn't make sense, if you are running for president, you don't have 10 staffers. either they are preparing for somebody else or they know somebody about the election we don't know about, they have it in the bag. hope it isn't that. they have a problem. logical question is the vice president steps forward. a lot of democrats don't think she can do it, how do you

replace her with a guy like newsom, you can't do it, it will look bad. some are coming out saying it would be racist if gavin newsom were the nominee, instead of kamala harris. democrats cannot win without the black woman vote. this is problem with making identity politics centerpiece of your party message. can't put the best person forward. >> harris: whether gavin newsom or kamala harris. >> fair point. >> what is insane about what you just said, kamala harris got lowest vice presidential rating in nbc news history and democratic strategists said if you run gavin newsom against her it would be a slap in the face, racist and disrespectful. they are picking woke virtue

signalling concepts over approval, over americans saying please, anyone else but biden or kamala. >> harris: aren't we watching that in other areas. so-and-so didn't have what they needed. >> that is disheartening. >> harris: todd, what do you think are options for republicans? i'm saying you should get ready for a storm before it comes and not just because we have covered a lot of storms, that is how life works. if you know you will have to potentially face kamala harris, whether he drops out or god forbid something else, you should be getting ready for that. that is the game at this point. >> todd: you have to parallel track it, walk and chew gum at the same time and you've known about gavin newsom for quite

sometime. >> rachel: looking fine. >> todd: like to make a note, i did not say -- in case unclear, i did not say looking fine, although he did look fine. >> harris: okay. >> todd: that was his measure the curtain moment. do you think that answer that kamala harris gave was her measure the curtain moment, there was no cackle in that, like she had been buttoned up ready to rock. for republicans, you have to run parallel tracks, you should be able to, you do have money, i don't hear republicans can't fu fundraise, be prepared, if you don't prepare, you deserve to lose presidency that is political malfeasance. >> harris: nicole, we were talking off camera, i mentioned to watch trigger points for kamala harris and she's been on

almost campaign trail of her own talking about women issues, particularly something that polls well for democratic women and split republican women, abortion. >> it was interesting, i heard her say to ap, she used to be a prosecutor, anyone charged in reference to president trump and capitol riots. she said anyone charged, i believe in upholding law and want justice. she broke from the white house, the white house has not been commenting and she is beginning to comment on it. i think she is starting to separate herself from joe biden. she has not done anything of substance thus far, she is getting ready to kickoff a college tour. she what she does next year, i think separating from the white house. >> hopefully no more locker room -- remember that? >> yes. got to go. >> harris: telling you, you got to go.

coming up, parents want to know about children gender identity make them clear and present danger, that is a quote, according to a california judge, next.

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♪ >> emily: parental rights to another hit. sued chino valley school

dis district. the state attorney general called this forced outing a threat to lgbtq students. now the judge in the case put the policy on hold and seemed to label parents as the real threat, ruling whatever the class of protected students are, students are students. you are singling out a group exposed to clear and present danger. todd, clear and present danger are parents? >> todd: i have never seen an issue that upsets me more and i think republicans need to pay attention, if there is issue where they will siphon off democratic votes, it is this, you are 100% in charge of your kid. no if, and/or buts, they are your kids, that's it. democrats trying to run for office are going to try to paint republicans as anti-lgbtq,

republicans need to prevent them from doing that, these are god's children, we want to protect god's children, we do not want to relinquish control god gave us over our kids. >> emily: according to the president, they are our children and according to gavin newsom, the state is their parent. >> harris: you said running for office, when is a politician not running, constant campaign. if they want our children, they need to feed them and clothe them, the job we're doing. super mamas and super papas, we're in charge of all things for them. are they willing to do all things or the things that politically benefit them. this is flex and a political phase, they don't care about that community, if they did,

they would not exploit them. i'm not a doctor, but it can't be great to see this fight, that can't be good for them to know the people that love them most aren't going to be around for the biggest decisions. we're talking true minors getting surgery and ep cooing secrets from their parents, who thinks that is a good idea? >> emily: and parents will be cleaning up and providing mental support for a broken individual thanks to this policy. >> as a parent, they call parents clear and present danger and calling parents terrorists, i can't wrap my head around this. as physician and parent, break it down. you have to obtain parental consent for permanent alteration to kid, tattoo, or body

piercing. when it comes to gender changing, you no longer need parental consent? it is hypocritical and reason you have informed consent is because children and teenagers are not developed mentally or physically, they cannot balance benefit with long-term risk with this. only people who are dealing with potential fall out from changes are the child themselves and their parents who you have removed parents from the equation. it is irresponsible. >> i can't wait for your perspective, rachel. >> rachel: would they like to feed our kids? yes, they would. todd talked about, get to the bottom of the issue. the bottom of this issue is communism. for democrats and party ran by radicals, it is democrat commi

camp. that is what they want to do. the lgbtq, you are right, they don't care about kids or care about lgbtq, except for how it serves their political interest, to separate children from inner pas values, secular communist agenda and until we name it, we will 2340e9 be able to stop it. this is ideological at the core, until we admit what is at the core, talk to anyone who has been in communist countries as i have, in my own family, the state owns your children, that is ideology and that is what this is about. >> harris: here is what i fear. i think it is a healthy fear to have, that puts you into action. are they going to run our kids' lives the way they do the border crisis? you have people sleeping on the

ground. mayor adams is not wrong, it is an unmitigated mess in the sanctuary city, those are their policies, will they overlap this to other things? it seemsun ending. >> look south of the border, talking about venezuelans coming out in droves, venezuela was the richest country and people were pushing this, bernie sanders said more likely to find the american dream in venezuela than in america. when the you know what hit the fan in venezuela and it became the poorest country in america, he took that off his website and nobody held him accountable. on election night in 2024, we can have honest debate what this is about. >> emily: fox news sunday is hosting state of education special.

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>> all right, we have to talk fast, last but not least, i got the chance to sit down with senator and presidential candidate tim scott's mom, frances scott, for the latest in my series, families in focus. a taste of that interview which aired on the "falkner focus" last hour. >> when did he start playing football? >> he played football from a little child, from a little kid. >> were you surprised that he would suit up and then get a little scholarship help for college and the whole deal? >> yeah, i didn't realize he was that good.

but he was good. [laughter] >> if your son makes it to the white house, is there something that you want him particularly to focus on? >> people who don't have. i think it's just as important as we have a president who is able to help people, help other people succeed in their life. sometimes life can be hard but if you have someone who can understand and who has also been there to understand that life is hard and to help them push them on, but only in america this can be done. >> emily. >> such a beautiful interview to witness, harris, and i keep thinking when you meet people's parents, and you meet their family then you know where they have come from. what struck you about the presidential candidate tim scott after spending so much time with frances. >> i love that question, passion. 50 years as a nursing aide and ok, what are you going to do with your free time, she said

i've started a foundation called the low country, helping single moms like she was, she worked 16 hours a day, i want people to never give up on themselves and their families and this country. >> it's beautiful. who is next for you? for the interview? >> so, we are working on that. we have three coming up, and i'll roll it out as it comes out. >> we can't wait. >> five seconds to go. all right. don't forget to set your dvr when you can't watch us live. "america reports" now. >> i don't want them there. take them someplace else or send them back to venezuela. i don't care where they go. this is wrong. you got 73% of the people homeless in this city are black people. what have you done for them? >> we are not even taking care of our own people. it's just -- it's a travesty and shame shame shame on eric adams. >> i realize it's a sanctuary city but there has to be a limit to our compassion. >> s