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cheryl casone, kennedy and former white house press secretary ari fleischer. we begin with defund the police democrat from minnesota who seems to be changing her attitude toward law enforcement after being attacked. epicenter of the defund movement in 2020 following in the wake of george floyd's death. rocked the city of minneapolis echoing calls to defund and dismantle the police. one of the loud voices was a high-ranking official know with the state's democratic party. just days after george floyd's death she wrote on social media, we're going to dismantle the minneapolis police department. sadly this week, she was violently carjacked by a group of four men. the attack left her with a

broken leg, deep wounds and bloody face. it happened in her own driveway in front of her two small children. she posted this bloody selfie adding, catch young people who are running wild, creating chaos across the city. hold them in custody and prosecute them. look at my face, remember me when you are thinking about lefting juveniles and young people out of custody to roam the streets instead of holding them accountable. thank you to the 4th precinct officers. ari, such a change of heart and understandably, but it is too late for those who already gave their lives and suffered violent attacks. >> ari: my heart goes out to her, what she went through, what

her children are going to go through. tremendous sympathy. why does it have to be about you to realize this happens throughout society all the time and you can't dismantle the police. the calls have left police to resign in drove, the core of the problem. we don't have enough police, nobody wants to be a comanymore. god bless her, i hope her recovery is swift. she reaped what she sowed. >> emily: she made it about herself, a lot of victims like oscar lee stewart jr., father of children who died in an arson fire. where were her calls to think of his face? she called to remember her face, a lot of other faces i think of, she helped create this in her

city. >> harris: it takes a lot for somebody to break a bone in your leg, that is the biggest in the body. i understand she is having a shock reaction. what is lost on the bigger public, is that enough to move anything? she may go back to where she was. those were long-held political views she had and this is traumatic and we're sorry about this, just as public, our hearts go out. the same time, two things can be true, it will take more than change of heart for one person to change the system put in place by guys like george soros. the victims become the bad guys and the criminals get all the breaks. it will take more than that. i don't want to put too much more on her shoulder, she has healing to do.

her kids do, too. trauma will be spread, they were witnesses. what about her toxic words about people who serve? >> i can't stomach what she is saying now, her life mattered more, her wounds mattered more than deaths before her. when it is her, she changes her mind. we're not talking about something nuanced or complicated. this has been simple the whole time, people need protection and that fell on deaf ears for thisside lodge for much too long. >> kennedy: she is a republican, from her latest post. i don't want to see anyone harmed, especially a mom in front of her kids. to her past self, i want to say, you were warned about this, there was way of having criminal justice reform, getting rid of

bad cops and supporting good ones who want to keep community safe. cops knee capped by awful das and campaigns funded by soros organizations and mayor who don't stand up to das and create balance and safety in civil society. this is what society looks like when it starts to fall apart. there were so many cassandras, if you make this blanket statement, this edic, vulnerable part of society will fall apart and shame on you for not having rationale capacity to have foresight saying those words in 2020. >> emily: she said, these men knew what they were doing, no doubt they have done this before, yet they are still on our streets killing mothers,

giving babies psychological trauma, with no hesitation and remorse. i'm now part of the statistic. i wasn't silent when i fought these men and i won't be now. we need illegal guns off the streets, catch these young people and hold them in custody and prosecute them, period. >> cheryl: it is horrible what happened to her, it has happened to other people in this city in particular. one thing to say defund the police until you need the police and we've seen that play out in new york city. in particular, what mayor adams is coming around to the fact, he was protecting the police best he could, now people in bronx, queens, suffering under crime and rotating door of criminals in and out, she's saying we need to get people arrested and put in jail, not arrested and let out of jail in 20 minutes.

progressive policies sound good on a sign. they look good maybe on a website. when reality set in, we have seen in the streets of new york and george floyd protests, that was 2020, this is 2023 and a lot has changed. >> ari: so much in the last quote, the old joe biden talking about super predators. you are not allowed to talk about that anymore unless you are victim of the crime and you know it is the facts. >> harris: democratic mayor talking against the white house talking points, as well. fox news alert, former house speaker twice nancy pelosi has just announced she is running for reelection in 2024. she posted on x, formerly twitter, here it is. now more than ever, our city needs us to advance san francisco values, our country needs america to show the world our flag is still there with liberty and justice for all, she

said in all caps. somebody on her team probably wrote this. i am running for reelection and respectfully ask for your vote, nancy. kennedy, did anybody really think that another octogenarian was going to give up the mantel on the left? >> kennedy: absolutely not, looking at dianne feinstein going, hold my cabernet. i don't know if this is what san francisco needs, as long as she's been in power, san francisco and oakland, it is gone downhill. we're going to talk about this later in the show, people are hurting economically and sick of the spin. she's spun like a top for the last 40 years and i think we've had it up to here and we're pretty dizzy with establishment politics, as usual. >> harris: sick of the spin and sick of the spend of their tack dollars on things that don't

alleviate problems and pain in san francisco and throughout california. i want to get to this part with you, ari, you were in the white house and probably saw speeches before they were given. this is interesting. with liberty and justice for all in caps. are we looking at another situation when you become a victim of crime, you suddenly want justice? >> ari: what jumped out at me, not she is running for reelection, that seat will be liberal, whether her or the next octogenarian. she said advance san francisco values. flesh that out. what values is she referring to? needles on the street? defacation? what is she referring to. i want them to be cozied up and nestled up in san francisco, don't let them out. >> harris: same woman that flaunted covid restrictions to

get her hair done. does she care about them. same as lori lightfoot, i suppose. last thing san francisco need is more nancy pelosi, establishment machine, old white woman telling them what she needs from her locked gate with extra security. i've lived there many years, i am from east bay, it is disheartening to see her unwilling to step aside for someone that has fresh energy, new idea and gets what san francisco need, nothing nancy pelosi can provide ever. >> harris: i eluded to the fact her husband was attacked last year, she knows needs. how she looks in the mirror and sees herself as answer would be good question for nancy pelosi. "outnumbered," more of us, next.

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>> boo! boo! >> harris: one of the protesters wasn't moving much, his feet were glued to the floor, cement. you hear the people in the stands yelling at them, kick them out, getting fed up with protest here and around the world. [horn honking] [yelling] >> i want to be able to walk. >> we got to go to -- work. i have kids to feed. we got kids to feed. [horn honking]

>> harris: as you watch that, ari, i think of somebody far back out of the line of sight to protesters who may not be feeling well, might be in the back of an ambulance, what are these people thinking? >> ari: or somebody who has to get to the fire house and they are delayed from getting to work. i don't care what your cause is, here is rule to live by, don't make other people late for work. people have a responsibility and they have a right, you don't have a right because your job is just to stop other people from doing their job. i can't believe amount of money prevent wackos like that engage in what they do. i have been at sporting events, they sand on the ground to prevent people from glueing

themselves there. >> harris: at one point, if you were watching live, gauff, there was a group of cameras, she was talking to the cameras. why are they negotiating with this guy. five or ten minutes into the break, you think, why are we still sitting here. we didn't know his feet were cemented and glued. >> cheryl: she was upset. she won, she is fabulous. she was like, i expected it, it happened at wimbledon and u.s. open. we had drunks, smell of weed on court 17. interesting. >> we have that in time square, too. >> harris: right outside this building, right here. kennedy, talk to me about what it takes besides putting sand

down. you have cops there, let them do their job and let penalty fly where they come. if you glue your feet or bottom to coffee shop counter -- >> then glue the rest of you down, too. if you want skin glued to wide surface, make a commitment, don't just do your feet, do the whole thing, lather them in gorilla glue and slam them down and let the tennis players come out and take serve practice. see if you are committed to your cause because i think they are a bunch of cream puff babies. stop it right now. it makes me want to drink fossil fuel. it makes me want to bathe in penzoil, when i see the nuts, they are emotionalists. >> harris: emily. >> emily: it is illegal to block

a roadway, it is illegal to trespass. i answer zero tolerance and rage i feel while watching this is not healthy temperature is not fun or cute and the guys have no clue what the real world is like. they defeated police brutality when they got their booties handed to them from the tribal ranger. i applauded that and showed character capitulation. what hurts is felons not able to get to parole, first responders not being able to get to the hospital and athletes not being able to perform. go to your local legislature, don't go to my house. >> harris: think about the mom in the video, i have to get home to feed my kids. coming up, hollywood star and

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>> emily: big name hollywood actor is gaining praise online for his response to a question about diversity in hollywood. he debuted "the promised land," it is period piece about a captain set in 18th century europe. ♪ [speaking a foreign language] >> emily: after the premiere's film last week, a reporter asked about the lack of diversity within the cast and how that fit within hollywood's new diversity

dp guideline. take a listen. >> this is entirely nordic and has lack of diversity, as new rules implied in hollywood. >> from the get go. >> there is some rules of diversity across the atlantic for competing in best picture, the equivalent of competition and you don't live up to this standard with this broadcast. it is lack of diversity, can't compete in the competition, are you worried about that? >> are you -- you are putting us on the spot, you answer the question. >> i have in comparison -- >> what do you think? >> i was thinking "parasite" was a great movie, coming from south korea, this was actually still

ineligible for the competition movie with all nordic cast is not and that is what i think is conundrum. >> i don't understand the question. >> the film takes place 1750 in denmark, there wasn't a thought in my mind, it would be weird if it is just historical how it was in 1750. >> emily: apparently logic, historical accuracy, perspective of the story teller and artistic freedom means nothing against hollywood standards. >> harris: i would love to know if that reporter, since they were putting questions back on him, could give us the racial numbers back then? he is asking them to remake a film, does he know what it looks

like? >> emily: the falsity, cheryl, they have created a movie that took place in 1750 denmark and they can do what they want. reporter can ask questions, fine. hollywood is demanding for you to be considered for x award, check a million boxes. i'm surprised every director doesn't walk off, i want nothing to do with emmy, oscars, it is fiction if you impede my historical accuracy and what i do with my film. >> cheryl: the director went on and said, okay, there is one character of color and she was abused in the movie and in 1750 denmark, she was probably the only person in denmark that was of color. it looks like a great movie,

brutal time. i do like the fact they started laughing at the reporter and said, buddy, give me a break. nobody is watching the oscars anyway, ratings have gone down, people are over politicization of hollywood. i'll bet this movie makes a lot of money. >> ari: you are missing the point, this is not historical accuracy, this is rules of diversity. who wrote the rules? i don't think there are enough hungarians on this set. rules of diversity, if you are in south korea, do you have to have whcaucasians? where does this go other than where it should, merit and accuracy? >> emily: question posed, are

you worried about it? are you, are you worried? >> kennedy: not making 17th or 18th history danish period piece for awards necessarily temperature is clumsy of hollywood. for so long they have the opportunity to bless women and directors of color with awards and they chose not to. they chose to have a white boy's club for decades and they were warned and so now they're trying to punish other artists for long-term sins and they can eat a bag of sticks. >> harris: so true. they victimize women in the process, which is why we are seeing harvey weinstein fall out, so on and so forth. this reporter wants the movie to look like what denmark looks like today, 86.9% of the population is danish decent,

they want it overlay like tapeistry and erase history, they don't do that. >> kennedy: something roton in the state of -- shakespeare. awesome. >> emily: renewed debate around age limits for elect lawmakerses and we are taking to the street to see what americans have to say. and we are taking to the street to see what americans have to say. and we are taking to the street to see what americans have to say.

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breaking today. i like the music, it is loud. as the story was breaking that nancy pelosi is going to run again and thinks san francisco desperately needs her, there is renewed debate over age limit for elected officials. nancy pelosi is 83, god bless her. kentucky senator -- >> did you whistle? >> cheryl: not me. >> harris: mitch mcconnell is 81, he's had moments where he's frozen up in public. senate minority leader is vowing to stay in office until his term ends until 2027. 90 or better. california governor dianne feinstein has refused to leave her post and president biden slew of polls show they believe he is too old to serve another four years. now "outnumbered" is taking to

the streets to find out what people, men and women on the street say age limits for lawmakers. >> age limits for lawmakers? >> yes. >> yes. >> yes, it is about the next generation. >> not necessarily, can be 80 and be fit and smart with experience. you can also be 80 and not have sharpness. >> probably shouldn't be age limits, i'm for term limits, not age limits. >> depends what state of mind you are in. >> do you believe there should be age limit on lawmakers? >> most definitely. >> why? >> everything has an expiration date. >> i feel like people high up in government, once they get too old to a certain point, they don't get what is going on for everybody else. 70 and above, introduce the idea

of retirement. >> i don't, there should be some competence test that is more stringent, but i think age itself may not be an identifying. >> do you believe there should be age limit on lawmakers? >> i keep seeing old senators and they look like they came back from the dead, they look terrible. people shouldn't -- live through them. >> harris: people shouldn't make laws they are not going to live through. he thinks people look old in office. fascinating. guy said i'm for term limits, not age limits. if you can't fit there 50 years, you can't be 50 plus.

>> cheryl: i like the respondent who said the older generation doesn't get what is happening with the younger generation. look, some of these, nancy pelosi is running again. she is out of touch, especially with people of san francisco, we talked about this. i actually do think there should be age limits. >> harris: wow, clint eastwood. not out of my cold, dead hand. this is horrible. >> ari: i am against age limits, but for politics, i'm against it, i am for sovereignty of the people. if they want to vote against nancy pelosi, vote against her. 78, 74, up to the people. if you want to get rid of biden, get rid of biden. >> harris: that requires legitimate person who can do the job is able to debate that

person and real alternative to person you are talking about. it wasn't representative tim ryan. >> ari: you are creating a world when other people are smart enough to know where to draw line. it should be 78. what about the articulate guy at 75? we'll make exception for him. no, should be up to the people, not one limit. >> harris: emily. >> emily: i love the answers, it is common sense, that is what we're missing in sound bite from officials. hartley did an amazing job. i love what you are saying, shame on the establishment for not giving us better choices, shame on them for acting like it issin foo, trying to gas light us who have legitimate questions about acuity. who do you serve? none of the people serve anyone

but themselves. >> harris: one about future generations and connectivity between current generation and those who are old. kennedy, i'm curious, if people are saying biden is out of touch, maybe it is the fact he comes from a different generation not just he is aging and becoming frail. >> it is not his age, i agree with ari, i don't think there should be arbitrary age limits, in 20 years, people may be living longer, if you have codeified law you may be screwing yourself out of good people. people there have been in politics for decades. they will not let go of power, that is the problem. >> harris: washington commanders back in the spotlight, the

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>> president biden considering forcing migrant families to stay in texas to take pressure off their state. why should they share the burden of illegal immigration. highlighting illegal immigration on the northern border, she will join us to talk about that. more bad polls for joe biden. karl rove will break them down. are we going back to mask and vaccine mandate? juan williams has more on that. join sandra and me for fry-yay edition of "america reports" and see you top of the hour. >> emily: despite football season kicking off last night, washington commanders face a new conflict. franchise was sold to new

ownership group and the redskins name was changed after complaints from native americans. the group called national congress of american indians, biggest backers include george soros open society foundation and the federal government. new group from native american community are rallying together to see the redscenes name brought back. one petition has 130,000 signatures. ari. >> ari: i used to work for the washington redskins on this issue about their name. when it comes to this issue, this was media driven sensation, not grass-roots of native americans. polls taken by native americans show native americans supported the name and thought it paid

honor to their heritage. a few leaders did not like it and became media celebrities for dislike of the name. the commanders don't want the headache, they want a new era in washington, d.c. and don't want to look back, just win games going forward. >> emily: kennedy, to me, thisl such a broad brush entire community or ethnicity, you will have people who identify as members of the community that feel differently and you answer to or try to cram them into one box, you run into millions of exceptions. >> kennedy: or you speak for people, you take it on as your own. that is kind of stuff i can't stand. it happens all the time in politics, constantly. women are going to vote for joe biden, not if they can't pay

their grocery bill, not if they have to choose between filling up the suv or going to a movie on saturday night. that is it on the head right there. it should have been about the fans talking with some of the native american groups, that were not politically driven. >> according to joe biden, you were not black, if you didn't vote for him. what do voices matter? here it was only george soros voice that mattered. >> one, soros's son just took over and he is in charge of everything his dad left behind. that is point of legacy where an older person moved on. it could get worse, the son prommyises to be further left. you have kansas city chiefs. i can tell you from living in kansas city, interesting to

watch that battle. there are native americans who identify as being lifted up and talked about and even helped out financially in some ways through jobs with the organization through the n.f.l. that is on that point. the other point i would quickly make about this, is that while there were groups that were being paid to be part of the conversation, the average native americans were not talked to or heard from. you have tyranny of the minority with money in hands from soros. >> cheryl: growing up, i was a thunderbird chief. we wore that moniker proud, our symbol was similar to redskins. that is history, decades of being proud, even when they were terrible, you were a redskins fan and memory for the fans has been taken away. they have erased elizabeth

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>> i just filed an article about this, i've been studying this intensely, as has emily. he is trashing her reputation, this is the mother of his children and he has no problem dragging her through the dirt. and doing serious reputational harm. so he can maintain his image as, you know, whatever, a wholesome pin-up boy that you take home to mom. >> well, i love the internet on stories like this, because there is all this pearl clutching about a mother wants to go out? oh, my goodness, how horrible. oh, no, i mean -- give me a break. i think his publicist put this out there, and you know, let her go out, who cares. >> do you think we will ever see the ring camera tape? >> no. >> there's video. >> no. >> of what? >> of her, apparently doing something. >> i agree with you, nothing to

be gained from negative comments and comes from a man like that about -- it is in very poor taste. they are both extremely wealthy and famous and a lot to be lost for the family unit, for the kids, and if it is his team, he should -- he should fire them immediately. >> really? >> wow. >> she's amazing. i just want to say that. >> and she's also taking the high road and they have reached out to her people and have had no comment as the joint statement promised. >> can i say something about that, the high road is always empty. honk your horn, beep beep, nobody else on it. she didn't have to go very far to take the high road. >> no, not at all. >> emily. >> well, guys in the last moments we want to say happy birthday to our dear kennedy, we love so much. >> happy birthday! >> we love you, kennedy, we love you. >> you are such a cherished vital part of this network, our fox family and our lives.

we love you forever. >> you are so sweet. >> so glad you got to share your birthday with us. >> it's your birthday, you get to, would. >> i always love working on my birthday. i think if you work on your birthday, it brings you good luck, and work with my friends, it is such an incredible gift. thank you so much. i love you. >> we love you. happy birthday. >> you missed the birthday hair flip. here is "america reports." >> we turned this city around in 20 months and then what happened. started with a mad man down in texas deciding he wanted to bus people up to new york city. >> a lot of these folks don't want to stay in texas, they are trying to go to other parts. almost as if biden is punishing texans for us trying to uphold the law and keep the community safe. >> sandra: squaring off with blue cities and states