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the biden administration is reportedly ready to intervene. hello, welcome everyone, sandra smith in new york. great to have you back. >> it's good to be back and i can see you so much more clearly now, too, sandra. >> sandra: good thing. >> john: according to the l.a. times, the white house is considering a plan that would force some migrant families to stay near the border in texas to wait for asylum screening. it would prevent them from travelling in the united states and into major cities run by democrats. >> sandra: complete coverage begins announcement doug holtz-eakin standing by. >> john: edward lawrence, live on the lawn of the white house, how would the plan work and how do you think it's going to go over in the lone star state? >> it's not going over well in texas, i can tell you that. so the los angeles times is reporting the administration is formulating this remain in texas

plan for illegal immigrants coming into this country who are looking for a court date. now, this plan, according to the times, is in response to the desperate pleas from blue cities because migrants are being shipped there. eric adams says this is a national crisis and he blames texas governor greg abbott. >> going to come to your neighborhoods, all of us are going to be impacted by this. i said it last year when we had 15,000, and i'm telling you now with 110,000. the city we knew we are about to lose. >> here is the rub. the texas governor says he has bussed about 35,000 migrants to cities across the country, only 13,300 went to new york city, that means the biden administration sent 88% of the migrants that new york city is dealing with. according to the l.a. times, all of the 6500 migrants encountered per day right now would stay near the border cities where

they were legally crossed. as it stands, majority in texas but not confirm this that includes battleground states like arizona, which is a border state. the department of homeland security spokesperson also not confirming this plan, only saying the biden-harris administration is committed to expanding safe and orderly pathways for migrants to awfully enter the united states while imposing consequences for those who failed to use the pathways. president biden has not changed border policies regardless of what's happening at the border. the resources at the border largely have been basically to process illegal immigrants into the u.s. for their court dates faster. back to you. >> john: see how this goes. ed lawrence, as always, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: econ panel now, doug holtz-eakin, and jason furmin, thank you for being here. a massive problem. not just new york city dealing with this, doug, you know that.

chicago and others are dealing with it as well. what do you do about it? i mean, mayor adams here in new york city is saying he's not getting the help he needs from the federal government, right. this is going to come out of the city budget, which is already struggling. what are these cities going to do to handle this influx? >> well, i think there's a part i'm quite sympathetic to new york city and a part i'm not. if you look at any migration strategy for the united states, it's not a big budgetary event for the federal government. immigrants come to the u.s., they work, pay payroll, income taxes, don't qualify for most programs five years, it's not a big budgetary event and they may end up on social security but that's years down the road. more people means more police, more fire, more schools, more social services, more of all the basic services and it's expensive to meet the needs. if the federal government has an immigration strategy, particularly for the asylum

seekers they are on the hook for the responsibility of the individuals in the u.s.. that's the part i have some sympathy. new york is a mess because it's suffering outmigration nearly as bad as inmigration, and it's the new yorkers who are leaving, they have lost 30,000 in the past year and a big budget problem in the absence of the influx. so it's happening at both ends and part is new york city not offering a good value proposition to residents. >> sandra: good point, with the video by the roosevelt hotel, we have had people with businesses tell us they just can't continue on like this. i mean, it's stopping customers from coming through their doors. lady gaga's father said it's a huge problem for him and his business as a restauranteur. as far as the numbers, jason, tell me how it should be interpreted. you are looking at the cost of the migrant crisis in this city.

it is now more than double the fdny budget, if you look at that chart there. you are looking at it more than fire, sanitation, and parks spending combined. so this is going to take away from all of those other areas. should the federal government step in here, jason? considering the policies at our southern border right now? >> look, i don't know if the federal government should step in in new york, i agree with doug that you look at people, they come to this country, most of them are paying taxes, they are not collecting a lot from the federal government. so in some ways it helps the federal budget in the short run. and you know, we as a country, we need more immigration and we need more border control, and the two of those go together and until we have some sane common sense way to combine the two of those, the way george w. bush tried to do, the way paul ryan tried to do, barack obama tried to do, we are going to keep having these sorts of problems crop up. >> sandra: can i follow up on

that, jason. you are suggesting this will ultimately benefit residents, people who live and work here? >> no, doug had it right. at the federal level it's a small plus for the budget, they are paying taxes, they are not collecting a lot of benefits. at the local level it's the opposite, you have to provide local services to everyone. and so yes, it is a strain on local budgets. but look, a year ago we were talking about shortages and price spikes and all the problems. why was that, why were there big worker shortages, in part because we did not have immigrants in the country. we had much less immigration and that created all sorts of problems in the labor market. we are an economy growing precisely because we have immigrants. we need to expand it for legal and as part of that cut it down for anyone coming in not authorized. >> sandra: what do you think about that, doug? >> i think jason has a good point in that immigration is

ultimately the source of future population growth in the u.s. native-born population has low fertility rates, we are not going to have a lot of babies and not going to grow. no question about it. the mix of immigrants matters and the united states has historically relied on principles like family reunification, asylum seekers, refugee status, we have never really used it as a vehicle for economic growth and we could have a much more employment-oriented economically grounded immigration system that would relieve our borders of some pressure from people trying to get out of broken economies and get a job in the united states and provide the kinds of workers that new york city needs. they are not getting a mix of immigrants that's beneficial right now. they have all people who need help and cannot go out and readily join the labor force and participate. the mix is all wrong and a better strategy would get the mix right. >> sandra: interesting discussion and analysis. thanks to both of you for joining us on that.

jason, doug, thank you. >> john: the search for an escaped killer in pennsylvania is intensifying today. police say another trail camera captured footage of danelo cavalcante at a popular botanical garden. nate, where is the search focused now? >> john, the search is focused in longwood gardens, here in chester county. we are on the northwestern edge right now, so it's just down this way, you can see authorities have blocked off entrance to that area and today state police said they have proof that danelo cavalcante was in this area as recently as wednesday night and then hours after that just before noon yesterday a resident reported seeing cavalcante. so, take a look at new video of the search taken this morning. perimeter is between 8 and 10 square miles and authorities are using every technology and resource they have. this includes dogs, horses, drones, again, helicopters,

hundreds of personnel on the ground. pennsylvania state police have not shared new pictures of cavalcante since monday night but just hours ago they explained what they have seen on the trail cameras since specifically on wednesday night. >> most recent picture is very similar to the picture you've already seen. he's carrying his backpack. keep up the search at whatever tempo is appropriate for whenever we need to. he's a dangerous individual. >> one thing that authorities don't know is what's inside the bags that cavalcante is carrying. don't know how much food or water he potentially has. but they do believe that he's getting worn down by the day and more desperate. it's been really hot outside. temperatures have reached the mid to high 90s almost every single day, but now in the ninth day of this manhunt, cavalcante is still out there, and chester county d.a. deb ryan admits authorities are upset. calls the escape an outrage and speaking with people here in chester county, john, how they

feel as well. while showing us their command center they are using in this search, pennsylvania state police said they are not going to hold another press conference at 3:00 today as they have in the past two days unless the news warrants. so, that means right now, they have no further updates to provide to the media and the search continues for this illegal immigrant who is a convicted murderer. again, the manhunt now in the ninth day. back to you, john. >> john: we will rely on you and your sources in the meantime, thanks for that. sandra. >> this is troubling for the country. we can't criminalize senators doing their job when they have a constitutional requirement to fulfill. it would be irresponsible for me in my opinion as chairman of the committee not to try to find out what happened. we are opening up pandora's box here. >> sandra: new reaction from senator lindsey graham moments ago after learning the grand jury and former president trump's georgia election case

wanted to charge him. that details one of many now public after the judge released the grand jury's final report. jonathan serrie is live for us in atlanta. jonathan, how is the trump campaign responding to this? >> hi there, sandra. the trump campaign responded shortly after this document was released, special grand jury report that was released this morning. the campaign saying in part in clearly biased un-american act, a majority of the special grand jurors voted to indict dozens of individuals, former and sitting state senators raising concerns of election integrity and enter excising the first amendment rights under the constitution. the first time they have seen it after it was completed in september, indictments against 39 individuals, more than twice the 19 who actually ended up being indicted by a regular

grand jury in august. individuals recommended but not indicted, kelly lefler and david pursue, and lindsey graham, georgia attorney lynwood, michael flynn, and former trum adviser boris epstein, and an election lawyer. none of the individuals i named were actually indicted, but this special grand jury was certainly recommending it and it shows the wide scope of this initial investigation. back to you. >> sandra: jonathan serrie on that for us, thank you. john. >> john: sandra, hurricane lee barrelling through the atlantic ocean as a category 4 storm and expected to intensify. will it impact the u.s. mainland? we are tracking the storm's projected path, plus this. >> you can't look at this and not say that -- for me to come on television and say i don't find this alarming or troubling

at all would be stupid of me. >> sandra: carville always in the tiger fear. veteran democratic strategist saying the quiet part out loud, carville, about president biden's re-election bid. not the only one as more democrats sound the alarm over the issue of the president's age. karl rove will react to that and other head winds facing the president.

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christina. >> hi, john. eddie's family is relieved that he will be charged and the public will see the body camera footage they saw last week. officer mark dial turned himself in. they say he shot eddie after he was sitting in his car after officers saw him driving erratically. initially they said he was shot outside the vehicle after lunging at police with a knife. the department backtracked on the claim. police commissioner said review of the officer's body-worn cameras made it clear what they initially reported is not what happened. security footage shows dial fired gunshots while the man was still in the vehicle. philadelphia's district attorney showed body camera video at a press conference today calling it extremely violent. >> i have to say about the fact that this office has been involved in the arrest of four

police officers who killed someone while on duty. what i have to say is that justice must be even handed. >> dial is now facing a number of charges, including murder, voluntary manslaughter, and aggravated assault. meantime, dial's attorney said it was appalling and his client thought the man had a gun. >> john: christina, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: get ready for it, hurricane lee is raging across the atlantic ocean as a category 4 storm. forecasters are expecting powerful swells to reach the east coast as soon as this weekend. fox weather is tracking it all, live from the fox weather center. rick, what can you tell us about the storm at this hour. >> i'm glad you talked about the swells, we have had so many rip current fatalities, including a number this last weekend and

we'll have more really dangerous waves. hurricane lee, a category 4, had been 5 overnight, that's land, the gray, u.s., africa. everywhere in between the water temperature has been well above average all summer long, and that's what's allowed the storms that have come to rapidly strengthen and the one thing you'll notice here, this little blue, that is upwelling. when we had hurricane franklin, category 4 over the area, it pulled up cooler water up to the surface and so we see one little spot of some cooler water and maybe see the storm go over that same area, and maybe that would keep it under control. take a look at how rapidly the storm intensified. 80 mile an hour storm yesterday morning, and then by yesterday evening 160 mile an hour category 5. weakened a little now, the storm will stay well to the north of

all of the caribbean so it's going to be up here, still over the open ocean. big waves coming towards puerto rico and towards hispaniola, but we do this ensemble model, the center of the storm and put it in areas and it and change some intensity and then see what the models do. and for now, almost all of our guidance keeps it off the eastern seaboard, a little bit here across parts of new england and areas of nova scotia. can't rule out a landfall, we have plenty of time to watch it, 7 to 10 days from now. we know mid atlantic and florida are absolutely good. everybody starting this weekend getting the big swells and the dangerous rip currents up and down the eastern seaboard. >> sandra: we will be watching for that, keep us up to date on it. rick, thank you so much. >> this is something that the white house, the biden campaign cannot avoid. even democrats who like joe biden and plan to support him, they do have concerns about his age. >> joe biden is like that grandpa that you love, that you

believe in, you owe a lot but you start to wonder, you know, would you give this grandpa a high stress job for six more years. >> john: yes, it's true. democrats and the mainstream media catching up with the rest of the country, poll after poll shows voters are unimpressed by biden's re-election run fueled primarily by concerns about his age. karl rove, we have no concerns whatsoever about karl's age, karl, when you take a look at the polls and multiple of them, 77% of people in an a.p. poll say joe biden's age is an issue. wall street journal finds about the same, 73%, and the same in a reason cnn poll. so, i think it's true that many democrats and the mainstream media are catching up with how americans have been feeling for a while. >> let's take a look at the wall street journal poll.

do you think he is mentally up for the job of being president, only 36% said yes, 60% said no. they then ask is he too old to be president, 73% said yes, he's too old, and only 22% said no. and the problem for joe biden is those numbers are likely to get worse. who thinks that he's going to become less frail, who thinks he's going to be able to be better at stringing together two sentences, who thinks he's going to look more aggressive, strong, you know, resilient next year as he approaches his 82nd birthday. >> john: so karl, he's also not doing too well in the approval department either, hovering around the high 30s, low 40s. depending on which poll you look at. supporters of joe biden say not to worry, 2012, that's about where obama was, and he won re-election. but the difference is that obama never had concerns about his

age. >> absolutely. in fact, you bring up a really good point. take a look at his approval ratings on important issues. again, from the wall street journal poll. securing the border, 30% approve, 63% disapprove. inflation and rising costs, 34 approve, 63 disapprove. growing the middle class, 36 approve, 58 disapprove. the economy generally, 37 approve, 59 disapprove and china, 36-55. all are important issues part of the discussion next year and numbers on approval are below his ballot. so what that suggests to me, he's held up not by his persona, not by his record of achievement in the office, but instead by people's concerns and fears about having donald trump as president. so, the only which that, you know, barack obama got re-elected in a tough race was to go nuclear on mitt romney.

i suspect that's the only way joe biden can win against donald trump is trump wins the republican nomination and suggests if trump is not the republican nominee, biden is in deep trouble because the american people not only don't think he's up to the job, they don't approve of what he's doing on the major issues of our time. >> john: i hope our viewers at home took note a good question on my part led perfectly into what you had planned to say. so karl, we'll note that for the future. one thing that nikki haley keeps saying is that she doesn't believe joe biden is going to make it through a second term and is warning voters a vote for joe biden is a vote for kamala harris. kamala harris was asked if she was ready to take on the job. here is how she answered that question. listen here. >> i'm answering your hypothetical, but joe biden is going to be fine, so that is not going to come to fruition. every vice president understands that when they take the oath, that they must be very clear

about the responsibility they may have to take over the job of being president. i am no different. >> john: all right, the vice president taking the lead at the conference overseas saying look, everything is fine with joe biden, he's going to be just fine. but just in case he's not, i'm ready to take over. when nikki haley makes that case, what do independent voters think? >> i don't think they are reassured. i mean, i certainly wasn't. think about it. oh, joe biden is going to be fine. really? your word is good enough for us and then kamala harris goes on to say but if it isn't i'm ready. this woman is less popular than joe biden. this woman is considered to be, you know, not up to the job that she's got, let alone a job that has gotten a lot more responsibilities and a lot more challenges and pressure. so, no, you know, look. she's a weight, not a big weight, but weight drawing down joe biden. vice president in this instance

does not give people confidence, another good reason i ought to vote for joe biden because if something happens to him we get kamala harris. she's a disaster as vice president. what are the issues she's taken care of? the border she's assigned to. 30% approval on that issue, well done, kamala, giving the american people reassurance the government is doing the right thing. >> john: karl, rocky mountains backdrop, hope you have a good time. >> leaving tomorrow unfortunately to go back to austin, 108° today in austin. >> john: you could arrange to stay an extra day or two. a lot of democrats are taking a look at joe biden, sandra, and thinking you know what, if he were to pull out, open the door for somebody like gavin newsom for the party that would not be such a bad thing.

>> sandra: and back to the conversation about kamala harris, almost like at this point in the presidency and her vice presidency, so many different jobs. she's been given so many different tasks. had she just chosen one and really embraced it and owned it and could claim victory on it, you know, maybe it would be a different situation for her. >> john: well, you know, she was given -- she was given that one job and it was an i don't know that she did not want, the border czar. >> sandra: given a lot, yeah. >> john: i think she did everything she could to avoid doing that job because she didn't want that thing hung around her neck as a millstone should she have to seek re-election again. so -- >> sandra: it's been something to watch, that's for sure. >> john: quiet quitting i think is what you call it. >> sandra: fair enough. special counsel david weiss is signalling he will indict hunter biden on a felony gun charge but

some legal experts say weiss may be using the indictment threat as leverage to force the president's son back to the negotiating trial on the plea deal. mercedes colwin, great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> sandra: do you think that could be the case? >> undoubtedly. what a lot of prosecutors do, they lop on more and more charges to get you back to the negotiating table. most defense attorneys have to deal with this whenever they deal with the u.s. attorney's office where if the plea deals are ignored, don't want to negotiate, that's when the additional charges come into play. >> sandra: very interesting. jonathan turley earlier how the hunter biden gun case could conflict with a law president biden himself supports. >> there was a fifth circuit opinion held in another drug case it was unconstitutional under the second amendment to deny that defendant the right to possess a firearm. most criminal defendants would

use that, but that is a law that his father supported and he's relying on a case that his father denounced. it could get whacky fast. >> those are all strategic points for the defense attorneys to consider. because yes, there is case law that talks about the second amendment issue. but the prosecutors will argue that is strictly to that particular jurisdiction, we are in a different jurisdiction, other compelling reasons why he, hunter biden, should not have possession of that firearm as a known drug user. >> sandra: all right, so the feds plan to indict hunter before the end of the month, we know that. his attorneys are saying the doj is cowering to pressure. put your political hat on, getting closer and closer to election day, the timing of all of this is going to be really, really interesting to watch and see how it plays out. >> having actually represented prosecutors who have been either charged with failing to

prosecute, prosecute excessive and all of that, the bottom line is, they are always scrutinized for the actions they are taking. this is not out of the ordinary. this is done pretty routinely where other charges are lobbied in order for defendants to reconsider rejecting a negotiating plea and coming back to the table. >> sandra: do you see that plea deal ultimately getting done? >> it has to be, otherwise it can create so many issue, not only for himself or family, but his father who is trying to get re-elected next year. >> sandra: great analysis. >> john: you know the dreamy new car you've been looking at, it may be a privacy nightmare. a new study reveals some automakers are collecting and selling driver's data. jeff flock is live in pennsylvania and jeff, you know, seems our private information is getting sucked up by just about everything we use online, why not everything we drive. >> you said it.

data is money these days, john. and apparently the automakers are taking advantage of that, at least according to the study from the mozilla foundation, they keep an eye on smart devices and how private they are. they call, as you report, automobiles a privacy nightmare. they surveyed 25 different brands and found widespread use of data collection. they say the cars these days are data gobbling machines with microphones and cameras and sensors. they have more data collection opportunities than smart devices or cell phones, and their willingness to share it is "beyond creepy." some examples. vw has admitted in privacy statements that it can record your voice and target ads to you. kia can collect information about your sex life, although they say they don't do that, subaru, if you are a passenger, you are agreeing to have your data collected, and tesla, they

said, is the worst offender of all. 84% of those brands surveyed share their data that they collect. 76% sell it, more than half will give it to police if they ask for it without a warrant or without a court order, and 68% are subject to hacks, leaks and breaches. the leader of the study says particularly troubling, the willingness to give it to government if it asks. listen. >> what we saw with these companies was some of them saying they would share your personal information, your location, your sexual activity on and on and on with law enforcement based on something as simple as a formal or informal request, and that's really scary. >> one of the biggest offenders, according to the study, nissan, here is some of what they say in their privacy disclosures that they will collect. sexual activity and orientation, health data of the driver, genetic info and precise geo location.

we contacted nissan at fox business and they got back to us and said in fact, they do collect that data but when they do they only do it with in the applicable laws and provide the utmost transparency. they said specific to the sexual activity, nissan does not knowingly collect or disclose information on sexual activity or orientation. that's refreshing. makes my 2003 ford pick-up with the hand crank windows seem a lot more attractive. john. >> john: yeah, back to the future i think, jeff. thank you very much for that. now we are all scared. sandra, kia can collect information on your sex life, does it track when you go to lookout point? like how does it do that? >> sandra: i -- i put some thought into it. my head popped up when jeff mentioned it. i don't know. maybe the stores you are going to. i had to put some thought into that as well.

look, mercedes just agreed with me, i said it out loud. sometimes i think i'm thinking something and it pops up on the computer in front of me. know they are always listening. >> john: maybe the seatbelt sensors do more than tell you when your seatbelt is not attached. >> sandra: now we are all terrified, great. thanks to jeff for the report. all right, meanwhile a native american group wants the washington commanders to run a reverse and change their name back to the redskins. but there's one wealthy obstacle getting in the way of that. find out who that is next. plus this. >> virginia suffered the worst learning loss in the nation during the pandemic. students were told they were doing fine and they weren't. >> john: virginia's governor b warning students have fallen way behind thanks to pandemic learning loss. what's his plan to turning things around? shannon bream has a chance to ask him in an exclusive

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>> sandra: a native american group wants the washington commanders to kick off the football season with their old name, the redskins. griff jenkins is live on that from washington for us. griff, what are the odds we are going to see them go back to the old name? >> boy, sandra, that's a question washington fans are wondering. professional sports is rife with native american symbols, the kansas city chiefs took the field last night in arrowhead stadium. so when the commanders take the field on sunday, executive director of the native american guardians association says bring back the old name as a matter of pride. >> when they were the redskins

they represented everything good about america and they represented native america and now they have taken a turn to ally with the most radical left wing hate america groups. it's a modern day indian removal. it is a cultural genocide and i just believe indian removal is racist and you know, there's nothing racist about these names and images. >> and sandra, he's not alone. an online petition showing more than 130 fans want to change it back. but the president jason wright ruled out a return to the redskins saying going back to the old name is not being considered, period. what's driving the opposition? enter george soros. his open society foundation funds a native american group, the national congress of american indians who led the charge to retire the redskins going back a decade.

finally succeeding in 2020. and consideration bringing it back now, a statement last week when it was shot down, saying ncai has a proactive partnership with the leadership ensuring harmful paths are not done with future generation. 90% of native americans surveyed support the redskins name. sandra. >> sandra: fascinating development, we'll be watching, thank you. >> protestors protesting climate change causing a major delay at the u.s. open. and it is not the first time that the group has pulled a stunt like that. charlie hurt will have a lot to say about this coming up. >> sandra: looking forward to that. and flashback to 2020 that no one asks for. face masks and possible mandates.

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>> john: the debate over masking up reignited as a california

city passes a ban on mask mandates but similar effort fails across the street in the u.s. senate. juan williams, and chris bedford. so, fearing that one day in the not too distant future gavin newsom may say you know what, we need to get back to mask mandates, the city of huntington beach, california, passed an ordinance regardless what anybody says we are not going back to mask mandates. this typically originates in democratic states, these mask mandates. what do you think about the idea of going back to where we were three years ago, juan? >> i don't want to, i mean, to me it was, you know, sort of felt like gosh, why do we have to do this, what's going on. now, the counter thought i had in my behind is i don't want to get sick and people who are immunocompromised, people over a certain age are more at risk. but for most people, if they have been vaccinated and given the high level of spread of

covid, people who have had it are more protected and people who are vaccinated are more protected. so, less of a need at this juncture. but again, there are people who are more vulnerable and the question is do you give healthcare officials all the tools that they may need to prevent widespread of a new variant of covid. >> john: chris, depending where you go, you'll see people wearing masks or not wearing masks. most of the time if somebody is wearing a mask it's a kn95 or n95, because we have learned that cloth masks basically do nothing. the masks that you get, procedure masks, they are almost as bad as nothing. but for the government to come back now with everything that we know about covid and you know, immunity from prior infection, which was never taken into consideration, do we need mandates or can people say this is what i'm comfortable when

with, what i'm going to do. >> we are well beyond mandates, i could cross the river and go to a bar in maryland it was fine. everyplace was shut down in d.c., there was live music in virginia, and went to california which i did, even the beaches were closed. biggest study done by the cochrane library found masks don't really have an impact whether or not you get the disease, even though it makes sense they would, they don't. so mandating everyone has to wear them does not make sense. if you want to wear one, sure, that's fine, up to you. but getting rid of the mandates makes sense. i'm against giving health workers all the tools they need because i was concerned that my stepson had to wear a mask in school every day, chased down on the playground by teachers and impacted learning across the country, impacted access to the elderly, so more nuanced approach that takes into account health and families and churches and businesses would be much

better. >> it's a lot to do, with volume. at the moment we are seeing a surge in terms of a covid spread. but it's not at the point you would say it's so widespread that there's any need for a mandate. so the white house to the cdc has not discussed using, implementing a mandate. i hear it a lot in terms of social media and people concerned, oh, they are going to do this to us again. but in fact, nobody is suggesting it. it's a little bit of alarmism i think. i think the reality is that if you do see a huge bump as we go into the fall in the spread of covid, both of us would want for that child on the playground to be safe and not to get sick. >> the mask does not help that. montgomery county schools, not too far from here, put a new mask mandate in on children because of a small increase. one of the first things we learned from the virus, it does not really hurt children at all. i think one of the biggest take-aways from 2020 is not simply whether or not masks do this or that, but to not let

that happen again, have the businesses shut down, kids out of school for years, and for politicians to take proactive steps and say no, we are not going back, i think is healthy. >> john: here is what's driving all of this from the cdc covid data tracker. hospital admissions up 15.7%, 17,418. 658 deaths for the week. still way down from the peaks of 2020 and 2021. but juan, you said nobody is talking about mandates, but suggestions have a way of becoming mandates and i don't know how much people are taking into account, even though they say they are, immunity from past infection. i had covid in the beginning of july, got paxlovid, had it for a day, didn't feel bad. when they talk about vaccine mandates, the last booster i had, i got terribly sick, and

the threat of that happening again has me really concerned and i think it has a lot of people out there concerned. >> i don't know that they would mandate for someone in your situation to have another covid shot. the thing is, it's an option, and we are going to get a new round of covid vaccines this month in september as i understand it from the government that address this new variant that's out there in the market. but for you, john, i would imagine that your doctor would say this is too much for john's body, don't do it. but for me, i would say oh, gosh, i would like to have a shot that protects me from this latest variant. i'm certainly over 65, i do not want to have covid, i've had it, but again, it's just how much do you choose. i think this is to your point, chris, make it more about people tailoring it to themselves. you talked about montgomery county schools from what i read in the paper there was an outbreak in a certain group of students and among those students then they said for people who haven't yet got it,

we would like them to wear a mask. >> john: quick last thought. >> i think that's right. it comes down to getting rid of the mandates. the medical decisions we make should always be our decisions, whether you want a mask to be a decision. bicycling in 97° with a mask on, i don't think was the wisest thing, but take our cues from how americans handle it, not how the chinese handle it. >> john: have a great weekend. >> sandra: appreciate the discussion. tears, fear, and mental breakdowns. jimmy fallon facing that he turned a dream job by staffers into a nightmare. a superstar comedian is rushing to his defense. >> john: and catastrophic bite from the u.s. food supply. larry kudlow on the latest climate crackdown and what it means for every day americans. es complete balanced nutrition. together we provide nutrients to support immune,

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>> sandra: "tonight show" host jimmy fallon is facing allegations of toxic workplace behavior. c.b. cotton is outside the studio, how is fallon doing with this? >> rolling stone magazine reported that jimmy fallon apologized over a zoom call thursday evening with "tonight show" employees adding he felt embarrassed and did not intend to have a workplace that was toxic described by more than a dozen previous staffers. alleged erratic behavior, and some left because of their mental health, others blamed the leader saying there was no accountability. the outlet quoting a former employee saying nobody told jimmy no, everybody walked on eggshells, especially show runners. and jerry seinfeld even told him

to apologize over cue cards, but fallon said it's not true and idiotic twisting of events. some current staffers have defended fallon while blaming previous leadership and a statement nbc said in part, as in any workplace, we have had employees raise issues, those have been investigated and action has been taken where appropriate. now, reaction has been mixed on social media with some people coming out to support fallon, others saying his apology does not seem sincere. it's one of the several late night shows that have gone dark as the writer's strike. >> sandra: i can tell the music that went by is a peddy cab. the music is so loud in new york city. john. >> john: the biden administration cracking down on yet another industry, all in the name of green energy. trucking companies will now have to follow stricter emissions standards making it even hde