figure is likely higher. the consultants share workshops to educators on the book about equitable grading. the cost for one person to attend $4 hundred. other services are much higher. in a statement to fox business the ceo for crescendo said equitable grading is assure grading have a student's lodge of course material without considering factors like extra credit, attendance. handing in assignments on time. performance on homework practice and class participation. the fox business network has a town hall about educational issues coming up in a week. i hope you will watch that on the big money show.

>> bill: thank you for the plug. where were these people when i was in school? find that out. >> dana: surging crime and mounting safety concerns giving rise to growing fear in cities across america as police departments struggle to maintain law and order. now a violent crime has those who live in washington calling our nation's capital a war zone. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm dana perino. that went fast. the first hour. here we go. >> bill: are you great today. >> dana: great. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. crime on the rise in d.c. homicides, car thefts, violent crime all up sharply in the past year. one d.c. council member calling for the national guard to help address the city's troubling epidemic of crime and violence. >> man, a war zone. those who have not been affected by it directly, you will be directly or indirectly if we don't do something now. our government has to step up. our police department has to step up and our residents have

to step up. >> dana: gillian turner ahead on problems in d.c. calling 911 for help. griff jenkins has more on the city's crime crisis and efforts to get it under control. >> good morning. no denying it. there is a crime crisis in d.c. you lived here. crime has been a reality in washington, now it has become to spread out and random that residents in every part of the city are starting to change routines for fear of becoming the next crime victim. homicides topping the chart at 190. 30% up from last year. surpassing a 20 year record. robberies up 60%. auto theft up 100%. violent crime up 40% overall. the stories are heartbreaking. monday a teen walking into his job at a jersey mike's sub shop at 4:30 in the afternoon, a group of men jump out of a car, shoot and kill him. now a father is grieving left

speechless. >> just trying to process everything. it's hard, you know. a lot of violence in the city. my son -- i don't even have the words, to be honest. >> fear is palpable. in ward one a sector with popular restaurants and night spots is saying a 150% increase in homicides. last month we spoke to a d.c. resident who told us her three sons have all been victims of gun violence in the last few years. she also talked about how she is scared to stop at a stop sign or stoplight or gas station for fear of being carjacked or shot just one of many residents the way they feel. congress is taking notice. congressman brian stow says he is giving congress a briefing on the crime crisis next week to try to disseminate best

practices for safety and tips to be safe and not be the next crime victim here as well. we spoke to him moments ago and we'll bring you his interview later today. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: washington is facing big problems with its 911 call center in the midst of a crime surge causing tragic consequences for residents. not the only city dealing with this. gillian turner looks at this in washington as well. what did you find out? >> well bill, new official data out now 40% of shifts at the district's 911 call center last month were understaffed. this resulting the victims waiting on hold for up to 3 or 4 minutes at a time. national standards dictate that 90% of 911 calls should be answered within 15 seconds. experts say that's for a very good reason. >> ask anybody in the field of cardiac medicine, every second

counts with respect to heart attacks. >> the d.c. problem is a broader national crisis with 82% of all 911 call centers understaffed. the centers are struggling to recruit and retain call center operators due mostly to stress, burn-out and very low wages. some of the most challenging calls is when they get calls in from children regarding scenarios of a mother laying on the floor, or parents fighting, or something of this nature. those are very stressful, traumatic situations. or listening to somebody who is suicidal. >> experts insist it is not just the wait time that matters. the volume of calls that 911 centers are able to answer matters a great deal. every caller from a crime scene or medical disaster offers unique information about the victims that ultimately helps

first responders save lives. so that's the advocates tell us 911 call operators need to be paid more the first thing to make the high stress and high burn-out jobs come pet tifshs. compensation is more like fast food burger flippers than with police and fire and ems workers. >> bill: thank you, gillian turner watching that in washington. breaking news now. this is fulton county down in georgia where the judge has just issued a ruling saying that kenneth cheese borrow and sidney powell can face trial together. they requested a speedy trial. which means in all likelihood their case could begin perhaps in october toward the end of that month. they are effectively severed from all 17 defendants which includes president trump. it means trump's trial will not begin in october since he waived his right to a speedy trial.

there are rulings by the day, it seems right now in all these different courtrooms across the country. in this matter in the state of georgia, that is the latest at the moment. >> dana: you are keeping it together very well. >> bill: trying, we shall. six minutes past. this now. >> is vice president kamala harris the best running mate for this president? >> he thinks so. that's what matters. >> do you think she is the best running mate, though? >> she is the vice president of the united states. you don't do that much. you are a source of strength, inspiration, inelectric -- intellectual resource and the rest. >> dana: jessica -- great to have our power panel here. from the democrats' perspective should that question be that

hard to answer? definitely not for nancy pelosi. she doesn't make mistakes. once it gets repeated i think you come up with something different. it is important that joe biden thinks that kamala harris is the best running mate for him and he is proud of the accomplishments of the administration. certainly with the level of power and clout that nancy pelosi has you want to see a full throttled defense of the administration in general and -- more and more chatter about the age issue and kamala isn't instilling much confidence in democrats. >> bill: any time a democratic politician comes on tv they're asked this question now. that's been the pattern of the past 24 hours including hillary clinton earlier today on msnbc was asked about it and says she is all in on joe biden. people are picking sides.

>> a lot of ways they can't decide. democrat establishment is split on their support for harris. what do the american people think? poll after poll is showing harris has lost support with democrats and independence and no surprise biden will keep giving her tours. she had the border, breaking up the filibuster. now she is heading on the road. >> dana: the poll was basically 36% on harris favorability. dems 76%. interesting they send her on the college tour. does the road to the white house go through college towns in america? >> it sure looks like it if you look at 2020 and the mid-terms and the turnout across the country as the referendums. we talked about this multiple time. the turnout on campuses in arizona, georgia, what happened in michigan, absolutely

stunning. and again -- remember the days of all those pieces that said is gen z leaving the democrats forever? comes down to reproductive rights and guns and climate change. the republicans have nothing on that. >> bill: i think it's a fairly easy prediction to think kamala harris will talk about abortion and climate on these college campuses. is that effective? how do you see it? >> depends where she goes. the woke tour of these college campuses will touch a lot of gen zers what they want to see from potentially her but not just that they are caring about those issues. these are students getting ready to have jobs, getting ready to enter the economic market and want to see they have choice in where they will live. they can't move to cities to

find opportunity because of the crime. so how that all plays out, it's at least ten months until the election, more than a year out. so there is a lot of road ahead. i wouldn't be so certain just those two issues will be the boilerplate for this group. >> dana: do we have time for that sound bite? david ignatius. this is a big deal. i want to play this and get a quick reaction from both of you on msnbc yesterday. >> the key question with somebody who is as old as president biden will be is whether people see the vice president as a strong successor. so far i don't think she has made that case to the country. >> dana: about harris in particular. overall earthquake level in washington after his column? >> very much so. everyone is reading this and seeing wow, there is dissension in the troops. there is not clear support for her as a successor to biden on the heels of mitt romney on the republican coming out and saying

he is too old to run again. this conversation about the 80 plus year olds stepping down. handing the baton. they can't hand it to kamala because she will drop it. >> dana: do you think it will be biden on the ticket? >> i do. if anything nuts happens it will be very unpredictable and got willing i hope nothing happens in terms of health. that's where you go if that's what happens. >> bill: as of today i agree with you. >> dana: i'm changing my mind on it, guys. i will keep you posted. >> bill: jessica 1 and 2, thank you very much. >> biden is taking credit for driving inflation down. he created the inflation to start with. so he is trying to fix a problem that he created. >> bill: governor of georgia brian kemp calling out the white house and president biden on a

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>> bill: here we go back to south carolina. alex murdaugh, the first time we have seen him since his conviction back in march is back before a judge. let's drop on in and listen to this. >> also indicted in

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2022, gs40 -- indicted in april of 23. the state enters indictments. alex murdaugh represent 101 federal charges for an alleged loss of $8 million dollars. the status here as we have -- i believe back in april, requesting a trial date for mr. murdaugh. i believe that we looked at the other co-conspirators going the trial this week. mr. murdaugh remains the state's priority and i believe the case that's priority would be the case involving the satterfields. the single loss among all the victims, 2021, gs4730 and the state is intent on pushing forward with the crile date as

soon as as reason will be apossible. sometime in -- before the end of this year to try alex murdaugh on those particular charges. >> all right. >> your honor, there are a number of different objections we have to try any of these cases this year. we've previously got the impression from your honor that you would not be trying these cases and you will leave the bench january 1st. that was my impression. maybe i misread you. i've done that from time to time. if i did, i apologize. but in the meantime, schedule other matters. i am -- i have a federal trial in december. before that, your honor i mentioned this the last time we

talked, i have a oldest case in lexington county, civil case involves the death of five children killed by their father who was sentenced to death for it. we sued the department of social services eight years ago and finally on the trial docket. >> trial docket for what? >> motions on the 14th of october. trial on october -- email here from the judge who is trying it. the trial on -- motions heard october 13th. trial october 30th. it's a 2 to 3 week trial. mr. griffin has an additional conflict. he has a federal trial october 30th, that week. so i guess this is september, it

looks like most of october is going to be involved either getting ready for or trying that case. wouldn't be done until early in november. and your honor, it will take some time to get ready for these cases. more importantly and maybe this is the toughest thing i have to say. that is this. this case was tried, finished, six months ago. it clearly i don't think anyone disputes has had more publicity than any case in the history of this state and maybe the country on national television every day for six weeks, the motions are -- motions hearing were covered and they are here again today. it has been podcasted, blogged, we have podcasters out there who

are grabbing their 15 minutes hanging by their fingernails wanting more than their 15 minutes of fame to continue to talk about this. i understand one of the solutions to massive pre-trial publicity is a change of venue. there are two cases i want to cite for the court. both united states supreme court cases, murphy versus florida and shepherd versus maxwell. two kinds of pre-trial publicity that would indicate a continuance and-or change of venue required. prejudice is presumed with pre-trial publicity. and where the trials were held.

they found presumed pre-trial publicity in a case much less renowned, much less publicized than this one. and your honor, to try to try this case in less than a year after the verdict came in in the other case, where will you get a jury, mars? there is nowhere -- >> all endale, buford. it's not a sense of humor. we have many counties where these indictments were issued. i am not presuming a jury cannot be im paneled. >> bill: the issue. murdaugh is back in court facing indictments on financial fraud. and now his attorneys are arguing that you can't find a jury anywhere except for the

planet mars and i don't think the judge is buying that at the moment. >> dana: it's the same judge, i believe. bill holloway is joining us from georgia. you have your eyes on this case and the one happening in fulton county. on this one in particular, what did we just hear, phil? >> what the defense is doing, dana, is they are laying the ground work for a motion to change venue. they make a very valid point. there is a presumption in situations like this that the jury in that local jurisdiction might be tainted. he is right, the lawyer is, there is no trial that we've seen certainly in recent times that had as much pre-trial and post trial publicity as this one. now the motion for a new trial based on the alleged misconduct of the court chrcek. that's an issue and be part of any reason why the defense is going to say this needs to come out of this particular county because in this county for that

and other reasons they are saying they can't get a fair trial. here is the thing. he has already agreed to plead guilty in federal court. the other co-defendants have already been convicted and one of them sentenced in federal court. at some point, i think the state of south carolina might want to ask itself what is the purpose of using limited judicial resources to prosecute this case? that's on one hand. if they decide to go forward they certainly have a lot of evidence against murdaugh. they have his in-court under oath admissions to committing these crimes. so there is just a lot of different moving pieces that each side has to think about. is it something that they really need to go forward with? if they do, do they need to go right now? or can they wait on some of these other issues to get sorted out? i am thinking of the issue with the court clerk. that's one that i think needs to be sorted out before they move

forward with any other trial, because that could contaminate everything. there is a lot. >> bill: do you think they have a case against this clerk? do you think they can make hay with this? >> well, they can. if you are to believe the exhibits attached to their motions where they have jurors who are making these allegations basically against the court, these are absolutely breathtaking allegations. i have never in my life heard of an officer of the court having that type of alleged improper communications with jurors. but if they can flesh this out in a hearing he will get a new trial. it is going to need to be somewhere other than this particular courthouse. so if that one can't be done in this courthouse, it stands to reason that with all the pre-trial publicity nothing else should be done in this courthouse, either, bill. >> bill: stand by. we might come back to you, too. there are other legal matters that we need your expertise on.

stay with us. >> dana: happening in atlanta. steve harrigan, you are in be atlanta and set us up for this. we are getting some decisions in fulton county. >> that's right. one key decision keep in mind the prosecutor here wanted to try all 19 of these defendants in one group. one huge trial. that's not going to happen right now. that's because the judge has allowed two of the defendants to server themselves from the case. sidney powell and one other will be tried separately. their trial. they asked for a speedy trial to begin october 23rd. so what we're not going to see is former president trump on trial here next month. the trial of these two will start then. that's not what the prosecution wanted in this conspiracy trial to overturn the 2020 election. dana and bill, back to you. >> dana: thank you. we kept phil holloway to help us understand. what is the strategic benefit

for the lawyers who want to go first with a speedy trial? i understand wanting to delay because maybe you get to see what that case is all about or you want to push it until after the election? >> dana, it's simple. if you file a statutory demand for speedy trial, which is a creature of georgia law, unique to georgia and the prosecutor does not get the defendant tried within a very short window of time. in this case it's like by the first week of november, then a not guilty is entered. it is an absolute acquittal. when you have all this massive discovery and the lawyers won't have time to go through all of it between now and october 23rd, it is sort of like going for it on fourth down. if you make it, that's great and you are the hero coach. but of course if it doesn't succeed, you are the villain. a big gamble but a great benefit for the defendants. one thing that the district attorney needs to be looking out for. the remaining defendants have an

additional period of time. they have until i think the first week in november to file their demand for speedy trial. let's say one of them drops this statutory demand for speedy trial on them in late october. we could be looking at simultaneous trials going on in different courtrooms in this georgia courthouse all involving this same indictment. that's why the d.a. wanted this to happen all in one giant trial and not be spread out. because if that happens, she is going to have a very difficult time keeping this case organized, dealing with all the witnesses and the evidence and all those things that the prosecutor is obligated to keep coordinated during a trial. this could turn out to be a very, very significant ruling that will damage the d.a.'s chances. >> bill: she had a long time to think about it. we'll see whether or not she is successful on that. thank you, we'll call on you again for just about anything, all right? thanks. >> dana: a little bit of other

news now. older adults are the fastest growing segment of america's homeless population according to the latest reports. americans are being strained by a rising cost of rent and inflation continues to be a problem for people's wallets. fox business correspondent gerri willis joins us now. >> this is a concerning story growing number of baby boomers are living on the streets. nearly 20% or one in five americans 55 years or older living on the streets as of 2021. that's up from 16.3% in 2018. experts say the trend goes beyond the rise in boomer numbers you would expect given their population bulge. researchers say roughly half of the homeless boomers are people who have been homeless before and may have had addiction issues. the other half are folks who worked all their lives but had expensive medical problems or lost a spouse. another big reason the rising costs of housing.

on average rent is $2 hundred more than the average social security payment. in some communities with elderly residents it can be more. in florida, for example. the average social security payment is $1791 compared to average monthly rent of $2333. >> they were self-sufficient. they are still -- they cannot afford their lease and they have this coming and they don't know where to start. they need an advocate. >> impacted by the trend all over the country. not just high priced blue states. homeless seniors in new york city grew 1.6% between 2018 and 2022. miami, denver, small by compareson bellingham, washington have seen bigger increases. the quickest way to solve the

problem is cut red tape. it can take years to get the okay to build one affordable building project. >> dana: it is surprising to a lot of people. >> bill: thank you. >> dana: there is a stark warning from the f.b.i. director christopher wray says the number of russian spies in the u.s. is way too big. his remarks come as paul whelan remains wrongfully detained in russia. today marks one year since his family met with president biden to try to bring him home. senior correspondent rich edson live with the latest. hi, rich. >> now paul whalen's sister is in washington again securing another meeting with president biden to bring her brother home after nearly five years as a russian hospital. she is pushing to meet with the president this week. it appears she will meet with white house officials and members of congress ahead of one of her congressional meetings

she told us she was struck by f.b.i. director christopher wray admitting last week that the russian spy presence in the united states is still way too big. >> that took me by surprise because i would think if there were russians here spying, wouldn't that be a great idea to arrest one of those guys and trade them for paul? i have questions when i meet with people at the nfc to find out what's going on. >> the russian government is hostage taking and distorting the system in order to coerce the u.s. government. she called state-sponsored hostage taking like this a national security issue. the state department says u.s. ambassador lynn tracy met with paul yesterday at his prison yesterday and secretary blink en spoke with him a month ago. evan's family urged united

nations that he is wrongfully detaining him on charges that are false. the kremlin wants a russian murder released. >> now to the battle over gun rights in the state of new mexico. hot story here now. the democratic governor pushing back after a judge stopped her executive order that would ban concealed carry in the city of albuquerque. the governor says today a judge temporarily blocked sections of our public health order but recognize the problem of gun violence. i will never stop fighting to prevent other families from enduring these tragedies. austin heine is the director of political operation for the national association of gun rights. thank you for your time and welcome. some sheriffs heard the order

and said we ain't going to do that. what is going to give here? >> the governor is way out of line and she knows it. she is just not beholding to the constitution. at least she doesn't think so. it is really quite embarrassing and why our temporary restraining order we earned eft is a big win and good sign for the future. >> bill: what is what the "wall street journal" writes. mrs. grisham's order might have been meant to show she is serious about gun violence but instead she is unserious about governing. her comeuppance is a useful lesson for other governors tempted to violate the constitution to make a political point. is this dead in the water now, austin? >> we sure hope so. we are pushing for a preliminary injunction later this month. it is clear the legal precedent is on our side.

supreme court has ruled in two cases that these bans on public carry are completely unconstitutional. i think the governor novas that. >> bill: what was the impetus for why she gave this order. an 11-year-old boy shot and killed near a minor league baseball stadium? >> yeah. i think the governor is just really trying to exploit political tragedy for her own gains. that's what we see a lot of time with democrats when they put these unconstitutional gun grabs they take a sad situation and exploit it for their own gain. >> bill: there is a temporary restraining order now. how is this resolved? does she put up a bigger fight or does it go to another courtroom? >> well, it stays in the same court. we're waiting for another hearing on a preliminary injunction. the governor is putting up a fight by her statement she is not ready to back down yet. all of her allies have left her including the attorney general

who said he won't defend her. it is up to the taxpayers to pay for another attorney to help out the governor's case. she is in deep legal trouble. >> bill: did you see this coming from her? >> it doesn't surprise me. she was big on the covid lockdowns and the fact that she is using a covid -- public health emergency order to take away constitutional rights, you know what? i just expect everything from these people these days. >> bill: we'll see what happens. thank you for coming on today. 20 minutes before the hour. taylor swift shaking it to another level. she partied so hard on tuesday night she lost the middle part of her vintage diamond ring which is worth $12,000. her reaction went viral when she noticed the blank space on her left hand while sitting in the audience sending staff into a

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>> we're comfortable with the planners of the deal. comfortable there will be enough restrictions, quite frankly rigid restrictions on the iranian's ability to use this money. no apoll geese that we get these five americans home as soon as possible. >> dana: the white house struggling to defend its controversial prisoner swap deal with iran. the agreement would see iran release five detained u.s. citizens. that's good. in exchange for five iranians held here. the biggest backlash revolves around the u.s. releasing $6 billion of frozen iranian money. let's bring in connecticut congressman jim heins, ranking member on the house intelligence committee. love it when you come on the show. yesterday lester holt was able to talk to the president of iran. he said they will use the money for whatever they want. watch here. >> this money belongs to the

islamic republic of iran and we will decide, we will decide to spend it wherever we need it. the needs of the iranian people will be decided and determined by the iranian government. >> dana: can you understand why there are people skeptical it's a good deal when they clearly intend to spend the money on whatever they want? >> look, i can certainly understand why these deals are hard. they are always hard, right? whenever you deal with a country as appalling as iran. it was hard when president trump made a deal to exchange a iranian sign test for rang and reagan -- the president of iran has his own politics. what he said is simply not true. the money will be sent to banks that we know and trust in qatar. iranians will need to present invoices for food, medicine or

agricultural products. that's it to access the money. if the treasury department sees that there is abuse as the president of iran implied there might be, we can withdraw it and shut the flow of money down. these things are hard. i have a constituent instead of rotting and dying in prison will spend his 68th birthday, we hope two weeks from now with his family for the first time if five years. >> dana: he will be able to get home in time for that? >> nothing is done until it's done as you know. you were in the white house for a couple negotiations. until they are on an airplane out of airspace we don't celebrate. these things are hard. nice to have a world where iranians and russians didn't take hostages. we have a commitment in both parties to make sure that americans don't unfairly rot away if brutal prisons abroad. >> dana: i this i the other thing is the principle of by ratcheting up the fee that they can get in response to a ransom

basically by taking one of our hostages, do we run the risk of more and more americans around the world being taken by these types of regimes who want to do us harm but basically using us for either money or like in russia's case, to get really bad people back into custody? >> yeah, look, like i said i object to the notion it is a ransom. this is iranian money that could have gone to them anyway and we are getting hostages back. it's why these things are hard and we can choose to not negotiate. you will remember president obama took a hard line on not negotiating with terrorists. as a result we all got to watch mr. foley decapitated on national television. these things are hard but there are ways to mitigate, right? americans should not travel to iran, full stop. if you do that you run the risk you may be taken hostage. >> dana: universities that encourage them do do so

shouldn't do that. the bergdahl trade in obama years was also one we could call it complicated and some people might have thought that was wrong as well. i'm sure your constituent will be able to shake your hand when he gets there. thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> bill: fundamental question for you today. how do you find your own happiness? we have the right guy for you. that's next. ♪ >> tech: cracked windshield on your new car? bring it to safelite. my customer was enjoying her new car, when her windshield cracked. [gasp] >> customer: my car! >> tech vo: she didn't take it to the dealer. she scheduled with safelite. we have the latest technology for the newest vehicles. and we do more replacements and recalibrations than anyone else. >> customer: thank you so much. >> tech: don't wait-- schedule now. ♪ pop music ♪ >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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time and effort. to delay means waiting for no good reason. missing more time being happier and making other happier as well. what does that mean, arthur? >> to begin with it haiggest mi make about happiness. they think it's a feeling. people are chasing feelings. this is a big problem in our society that people are talking about feelings all the time. feelings are evidence of happiness. the smell of the turkey is evidence of thanksgiving dinner. happiness is a combination of enjoyment, satisfaction and purpose. you can pursue those things if you know what you are doing. this is a manual for enjoyment, satisfaction and purpose is what the book is all about. >> dana: lessons from build the life you want. managing your emotions so they don't control your outlook. a couple others, create and preserve deep and lasting friendships at any age. something trey gowdy talks about in terms of loneliness especially for men making friendships later in life. >> we talked about this. it is a big subject of the book.

everybody has people around them. a lot of people say i have a lot of friends but i feel lonely. the reason is they have deal friends, not real friends. the key thing to understand deal friends are useful to you. i got it at work, life, community. but real friends are the useless. i don't mean worthless. i have those, too. but real useless friends you just love them and we're getting worse in this country at actually pursuing real friendship. we talked about how to get it done and knowing the difference between the two. >> dana: real friends. >> bill: as are you. i saw you were going to be on the show today. writing about happiness. what more is there to talk about? people walk down the sidewalk and find another column you can write about. who are you talking about? >> happiness is what everybeefed is looking for all day long and part of every part of life. >> dana: evolutionary in our being. >> absolutely. we're evolved to want to be happy. we are also evolved not to find

it. mother nature wants us to be in the hunt. mother nature wants us the try to find satisfaction and not to get it. the place to see you need to look for food all the time. you find it and say i'm happy and you will sit and starve or eaten by a tiger. she wants us to always be a little dissatisfied. >> dana: congratulations on the book. great to see you as always. great to be with you as well. >> bill: tell oprah hello. love to have her on to talk about happiness. >> we have been on tour all week. quite an experience. >> dana: "the faulkner focus" is up next. here she is. >> harris: doubts about president biden's ability to do his job. that's also a concern for his backup kamala harris. for different reasons, of course. and now it's coming out fully from democrats publicly. the liberal media's strong defense of that 2024 presidential ticket may be weakening.