♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪ ) constant contact's advanced automation lets you send the right message at the right time, every time. ( ♪ ) constant contact. helping the small stand tall. >> (cheers) >> we are into day two of the auto worker strike. almost 14,000 auto workers already increased by another 2600 or so who are going to be laid off as a result of this, parts can't get in, so one facility closes because parts can't get in. still another directly affected by what the plant closures shut

down, 600 there. on and on we go. at least talks kick off today. grady is in wayne, michigan. >> we know the uaw president sean fain is back on the bargaining table and stellantis upped to 21%. and that's a better offer than gm and ford have put forward in terms of that pay raise. those two companies offered a 20% raise. president biden is sending two high level officials to michigan today to try to help with these negotiations, but we asked the uaw president yesterday if he wants them here. he kind of brushed that aside and he wouldn't even commit to letting them into the building to help negotiate, but he is welcoming several lawmakers, including senator bernie sanders who is here for a rally

yesterday and senator john fedorman from pennsylvania to walk on this picket line 15 minutes or so. and i spoke with general motors ceo, mary barra, and it's her second strike in four years and what she says. >> what i learned in a strike, no one wins. no one wins. the employees don't win, the community, and this strike is unnecessary. we have a historic offer on the table and we want to get to the last final issues. >> you look at me. >> anthony cash is one of the workers picketing, you've been working for ford since 2012. one of your concerns this time around in contract negotiations is the transition to electric vehicles. >> yes. yeah, i'm scared that electric vehicles are going to take some of our jobs, it takes less people, but our country doesn't have the infrastructure at all, and the miles on the vehicle, i feel like, got to have

something that has 500 miles plus. >> we've been talking about the offers from the automakers, they say they're historically generous, that they're the best considers they've offered, and you say you stand with your union. >> i stand with my union, and whatever they say-- >> what do you want? >> i want to have a job and i don't want anything overseas or mexico, but i feel like they took a lot from us in 2009, we deserve some of it back, if not a little more, so see what happens. >> are you worried though that you're going to be working on -- well, living on strike pay of about $500 for a long period of time? i mean, how is that going to hit you financially? >> it's going to, but i do have a wife that works, also, so that helps, but, yeah, that's a big difference when the bills keep coming, can't tell them you're on strike because they're still coming and you've got to pay for them. >> you can hear there, neil, from anthony, they don't know

how long this strike is going to last and the uaw has threatened to ramp up, have different workers walk off the job there if the negotiations aren't going well. some workers at ford have already been laid off. general motors is threatening to idle a factory in kansas because of a walkout at a gm facility in missouri. so, we're already seeing the ripple effects of this strike, which will only grow if it's protracted and lasts for a long period of time and especially if they start to target other plants, neil. neil: thank you for that, grady. as you indicated here, they have a strike fund, but out of $825 million that can be quickly exhausted, we'll keep following that and also, following some fast moving developments in the whole migrant issue not only the border, but reverberations beyond the border. you saw the hullabaloo in new

york this past week. and bill malugian. >> and we'll show you some of this right now. take a look at the video, this is lukeville arizona where our team witnessed nonstop illegal crossings the past days, this is part of the tucson, arizona sector, which border patrol saw a staggering 13,000 illegal crossings this week alone, that's an average of almost 2,000 per day and they're coming in from all over the world in that sector. we've seen a lot of adult men from africa, from india as well, that sector now way over capacity and mass street releases are underway there, then we'll take you up to eagle pass, texas. take a look at the video that our drone shot, more illegal crossings in the rio grande, forming a human chain trying to get across the river and

unfortunately a 10-year-old boy drown in this area in the past week, but the migrants have little to no fear of crossing illegally and they do it day in, day out. and also from eagle pass, our team watching as incredibly irresponsible migrant families have their small children crawl under and through razor wire illegally and crossing in the middle of a thunderstorm, dangerous because the river will surge. you'll see a bigger group arrives, hoping to be led into the country and blocked by razor wire, because they have so many children with them, the troopers end up responding and they cut that razor wire to let them in because there were so many children there and they had to look out for the safety of those kids. having the kids crawl through razor wire is a horrible idea, as is crossing the river during a thunderstorm. lastly, take you out to san diego. take a look at the video, mass

releases of migrants underway there, several hundred migrants released by border patrol to a city street in san diego. some of them coming from china and pakistan. these are not texas buses, these are not abbott buses, the they're biden administration. and one said, am i okay to travel to chicago? yeah, you're good to go. >> you're free to go where you want. you're free-- >> it's no problem if i go to chicago? >> you can go wherever you want. >> and, neil, sources tell fox news, for the month of august, initial numbers show there were about 230,000 migrant encounters at our southern border, that would be the highest month of 2023 and it comes at a time when the white house falsely claims that

they're quote, stopping the flow here at our southern border, we'll send it back to you. neil: bill melugin, thank you for that. as we told you, this is causing reverberations everywhere, hundreds of miles from the source of the problem, the border itself, in the big apple. we were telling earlier about a dust-up this week that concerned migrants who were sleeping on the streets. alexis mcadams with more on that. >> hi, neil, lots of chaos at the roosevelt hotel, yelling, blow horns, you name it. people were fired up over the big issue affecting not just new york city, but cities across the country and they want these officials to close the southern border, watch. >> close the border! >> this was the scene outside of the roosevelt hotel as protesters interrupted members of the congressional hispanic caucus. more than a dozen congress members including alexandria ocasio-cortez toward the hotel

the main processing center for migrants and usually slammed and they got to go inside and see the setups. new yorkers demanding answers, they're for legal immigration. >> i've got family members waiting seven years in colombia, what message are you sending to the law, break the law, come, we'll give you everything free. >> the surge shows no sign of slowing down in new york. at least 1,000 migrants show up in the big apple, every month. and congress members tried to talk about the plans. >> this is a contentious issues, but we're all americans and we all believe in the american dream. that's the common denominator here. the american dream, we believe in it and we will fight for it. >> and neil, after weeks of conversations we've heard that the biden administration and local officials reached a deal to house thousands of migrants out in an airfield in brooklyn, but a local group says they plan to file an injunction to stop that.

neil: alexis, thank you for that. this has gotten to be a hot button political issue as if it wasn't already even in the bluest of cities and the bluest of states, what are the implications? meredith mcgraw, national political reporter with us. we'll begin with you, what do you think? >> yeah, it's certainly putting democrats in a really tough position. a lot of these blue states and blue cities, a lot of the cities that have called themselves sanctuary cities in the past and now, it seems like a lot of the cities are understanding what it means to be a border town, even though they might not be physically close to the border. i'm struck by a number of the comments, new york city mayor eric adams has made criticizing the biden administration, also, criticizing republicans for busing a lot of these migrants up, but you know, it's clear that there is frustration that this hasn't been dealt with soon enough and going back to 2022, we saw maggie hassan, for example, who is up for

reelection in new hampshire, or even mark kelly from arizona, running for reelection there, both trying to call attention to the situation at the southern border, so it seems like this has been bubbling up among democrats for quite some time, but this is really the tipping point. >> you know, you touched on an important point, too, because meredith, you can understand mark kelly in arizona, a border state, he's going to make a big deal of this as you should. hassan in new hampshire, last time i checked not exactly on that border, but again, knowing and sensing this is going to be a big issue. do you think it will be. >> you can already seeing how the democrats are starting to under so the alarms here for the political implications of this crisis that you're seeing play out in some of these cities. for democrats, they want to win back some of the house seats that they lost in new york. and this migrant issue could be a big challenge for them, as it plays out in new york city.

we saw this past week former mayor of new york city, michael bloomberg issue a warning in the new york times if democrats don't get this right, if they don't figure out a way to fix this problem, that it could be an issue for them up and down the ballot in 2024. >> you know, you have to wonder, too, this push that we had not long ago for sanctuary in cities and states to protect that right. in my state of new jersey, the governor murphy made the whole state a sanctuary state and, the past week, we can't deal with it. and prompted chris christie said it's easy to talk about being a sanctuary haven and quite another to act on that. and that what seems to be coming to the fore, whether it's mayor adams in new york, or governor hochul in new york state, that that's getting old. >> yeah, and they're understanding what it feels

like to have a lot of these migrants, like i said before, in their cities, you know, they're raising alarm bells. they're not only having trouble logistically dealing with this, but they're also having trouble politically as well. i think there could be real political consequences to this and right now the top of the ticket, the biden administration as we head into 2024 is dealing with these twin crises at the border and the uaw strike and both of these in a way lay bare the divide within the democratic party and right now, biden as the incumbent and down ballot, senate, house, state legislature level, they need to be united as much as possible, but i think we're starting to see some cracks. >> i apologize for the truncated time and we'll have more on the uaw strike and we will atalk to nikki haley about

all of this and including the border dust-up well north of border states ap and of course, what is happening with that storm because lee is here, whether you know it or not.

i was tired of throwing money down the rent drain, so to speak. after watching the admiral that just made up my mind, i said, i'm calling newday usa tomorrow. 70 more dollars over my rent. i'm actually owning my own home because newday usa focuses on the va homeloan benefit. that's their expertise. i felt like i would definitely get a better shake. the admiral said that my service is, you know, my down payment. for us that was important not to be able to have to put anything down. i was aviation in the marine corps, 30 some million dollar aircraft. if the country, american people can put that kind of trust and confidence, the equipment that we fix, literally $200,000 home. can you help me? can somebody put a little bit of belief in me? and i felt like i felt newday did do that. if you can afford rent, you can afford to own.

to maximize that va loan benefit and not pay anything out of my pocket was tremendous. i had my doubts, but i don't anymore. >> no longer a hurricane, but still a frightening storm. the latest on lee with robert ray in nova scotia. >> neil, hello from the southern point of nova scotia, yar yarmouth as post -lee is moving. we're in a high tide cycle, neil, so the water has been pushing in over the rocky shores of nova scotia as we have been reporting all morning. we just had a gust of nearly 50 miles per hour here up in halifax, nearly 73 miles per

hour. that's almost hurricane strength, even though we're not discussing it as a hurricane anymore, regardless. the impacts will feel substantial. well over 100,000 people are out of power, with the peninsula. power companies cannot get out until this wind dies down and that's not going to happen until well into tomorrow. the potential for landfall is very, very intense as the wind kicks up. we may get a landfall here in yarmouth or in this area, but depending on what lee does at this point or it may go into the bay of fundy which separates new brunswick, canada and nova scotia, regardless the impacts are significant, power outages are happening and as you can see, the swells are coming in over the rocky shores. here we go with wind kicking up here upwards to 50 miles per hour in yarmouth and i'm going to move a little bit, and i'm

being safe and the camera is up above. this is what we're seeing and listen to this, you can hear as the water recedes, sounds like fireworks, and this is a big one, will let me pop up here be as safe as you can as jason, my photographer, is giving you live images from canada. by the way, we're the only american weather network to be reporting live here in canada, neil, that's an important thing as we've been covering lee for almost two weeks. at one point, a category 5 hurricane, now a post-tropical cyclone and we're feeling it here as the folks in this great province of nova scotia are as well. and my colleagues up and down the east coast of the u.s. from massachusetts to payne are reporting on fox weather and fox news, neil. we'll keep it up. we're out here all day and all day tomorrow, neil. neil: you always are. all you guys at fox whether

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do was stand up for their child. neil: all right. that pardoned dad, scott smith, a virginia father, pardoned by the governor, kind enough to join us. scott, good to have you. >> thanks for having me today. you know, they've looked into this and they've kind of concurred that you had lots of ample ground to be upset, but it took a long time, didn't it? >> yeah, it was a long time in the making, that's for sure, but we're glad that we're here and we got it done. neil: you know, you were facing a lot of legal bills. you were facing a lot of concerns. you got criticism as well as praise, more praise than criticism, but how did that whole process make you feel? >> you know, i woke up today and walked out to some beautiful skies and just looked up and was very thankful for where i and my family are at today. it's been a long fight. it's been an expensive fight. we've taken some big wins, but

we've got a few more fights ahead of us and we look forward to more wins. neil: talk about those other fights that are coming up. >> well, we'll be filing a massive title 9 lawsuit in alexandria federal courts within the next several weeks against the loudon public school system. we'll also be looking to filing a lawsuit against the prosecutor's office, you know, she was up tweeting all night last night, you know, in defiance of my pardon, saying that it's not legally just and this, that and the other. you know, it's time for everybody to put this behind, stop fighting about it and let's move on and let's start putting the protection of our children, you know, in front of us. let's put this behind us. neil: she didn't mention one word about your daughter. >> no. you know, they don't care about my daughter. they've just victimized us and

continue to do it to this day, but we're a strong family. we're tight. we're united and we're getting through this and we are going to come out on top. neil: how is your daughter doing these days, scott? >> you know, we have good weeks and bad weeks. she's a teenager about to turn 18, you know, so going into this world, especially having all of this on her shoulders, you know, it's been a tough road to go, but you know, she goes at it every day as positively as she can and she's strong and we see real good things for her ahead. neil: no doubt. i think it's in her dna. let me ask you-- (laughter) >> the whole experience for her, for you, for your family, a lot of people look at that and say, man, i don't want to have to go through that. is it worth it? what do you tell them? >> well, i tell them that i hope that they'd never have to go through it because when this showed up at my doorstep, this was something that we just

couldn't even imagine, but what i will say is that you know, if your children need you you need to stand up for them, you need to be behind them and you need to fight, you know as boldly and loudly as courageously as you can to make sure things are made right and that's what my wife and i have done. neil: and when this first happened and the dust-up with officers on the scene, over the top reaction, i'm not sure, i wasn't there. how did your daughter feel about this, the attention you're getting and your wife, and that had to be like surreal. >> yeah, you know, my daughter has told us more than once that she's very proud that she has a mom and dad that's willing to go to the mat and fight for her no matter what it takes, that means a lot for us and i'm glad she's able to say that now. i can only imagine what we'll hear from her in the future from her. just what a mess. i mean, this--

what happened should have never happened to anybody. it should have never happened to any family anywhere in america, this just simply should not have happened nor should happen to anyone else again. >> you're an amazing guy. i've got to tell you, scott, but more than that, i think, you're an amazing dad. so i'm glad you're over the worst of it. be well and i don't have to tell you to be strong. it's pretty clear you already are. thank you for joining us. >> yeah, one last thing, we got to report released yesterday that the school system had been trying to defend for the last year and a half and it's scathing. you know, it points out exactly where all the mistakes were made both by the school and also there's some allegations of what the sheriff's department may or may have not done, you know. it's very, very scary and it's very chilling and you know, what happened to this family should never happen to anybody and that's what the story should be. every american needs to look at this, look at the politicized

and weaponized justice system and do something, vote. don't let this continue. neil: as we've seen, the report did vindicate everything you've said and did and how you reacted. >> everything. neil: scott smith, thank you very much. >> thank you. neil: we'll have more after this. there are some things that go better... together. hey! like your workplace benefits... and retirement savings. with voya, considering all your financial choices together... can help you be better prepared for unexpected events. for a brighter financial future. thanks. ahh, pretzel and mustard... another great combo. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected.

>> you know, there aren't too many who can write biographies and get a worldwide reaction. and the latest opus, after steve jobs, comes a similar breakdown on the world's richest man now elon musk. the only connection between the two, they can be a little odd. let's say it's safe to say, after my conversation with mr. isaacson that mr. musk can be odder still. take a look. >> he really has all of these personalities and at times, he

is totally crazy and he'll admit it. he'll almost cackle about his craziness and then he might go into a dark, brooding period, but there, you know, you see that picture. he takes risks, and even at his birthday party, he gets a blind folded knife thrower. neil: that's a little weird. >> and puts the balloon between his legs. or the sumo wrestler. we used to be a nation of risk-takers. whether on the mayflower or cross the rio grande and people would take risks and now we've become a nation of more referees than risk takers. no you can't do it, it's not safe, regulators, than people willing to innovate. so i think that crazed risk taking gene, page after page in my book, helps tokes to explain how we're getting rockets into orbit.

>> and the best are molded out of their faults. he's got a lot of faults, however that molded him. that seems to go back to a rocky relationship with his dad and his father was, seems like a really s-o-b, but i'm wondering why he react the way he does? >> you know, he would turn dark whenever we talked about it, sort of a sad look coming over his face, and he was beaten up as a scrawny kid, elon was. not many social graces then ar now, and the scars though were worse that came from his father. he had to stand in front of his father once after a really bad, being beaten up on the playground and his father berated him for hour and a half and said you're stupid, you're at fault and took the side of those who beat him up. people have demons, but the

challenge is-- >> he can be abusive and lacks the empathy gene, and i'm wondering two years ago you were tracing and following him and seeing this play out, whether you saw it enough for yourself, you know, this is not a nice guy. >> definitely. and then a lot of times he-- that's an understatement to say he's not nice to the people around him at times, especially when he's mission-driven and in the book you'll see dozens of anecdotes, dozens of tales where he'll be walking at the, say the base in south texas where they're launching star ship and suddenly he'll get angry and order up a surge and really ream people out, but there are times he's i think spiring, there's times when he's funny, times when he's really caring, and he would

say, and does say in the book, that, yes, he sometimes lacks what we would call empathy, but it's partly because if you cared too much about pleasing everybody around you, you're never going to fulfill your mission. neil: steve jobs was known as an s-o-b, you know, he was very careful in finally agreeing and to talk to you and sort of weed out what he wanted to get out. so a very different personality here, also sometimes not a very nice guy. not that any of this, i think, in the scheme of things to your point should matter, but how do you distinguish the two? >> well, i do think you see a lot of people from jeff bezos to bill gates, to emon musk, steve jobs, can be rough on people around them. and i wrote about other things about jennifer, and nurturing

in hers. and steve jobs understood human emotions and frankly the iphone is beautiful, sings to us. i think that musk has a lot of strengths, including including manufacturing and physics and engineering, but he doesn't have a feel for human emotions and that's why buying twitter, i think, hasn't been exactly a pretty sight at all times. neil: he ever reveal to you someone he really likes for president? there was a time when it was desantis, but i'm not sure whether that flips, too. >> i don't think he's settled on a candidate. he spends a lot of time making political pronouncements, but in politics and everything else, he's rather mercurial. there are times in the middle of the day he's in a good mood and he said we need to have a center in this nation, we need

to help support moderates, people on republican and democratic sides that can come together. you're showing him with obama there. he was a big fundraiser for obama. neil: that's right. >> so he will talk about the need for bringing center together. then there's be times late at night when he's particularly angry at somebody for dissing i am and it may be a democratic politician, it may be, you know, whatever, and he gets dark. so, i don't think his politics are easy to pigeonhole. neil: he was a rock star to a lot of the people on the left, you know, with his very energy efficient, you know, environmentally safe and beautiful cars and then he started espousing some of these political views and the same people who said great things about him turned on him. how did he feel about that? >> well, he got very-- you know, once when he was at a wilderness camp at a little

kid, he used to get beaten up, and took his food and next time he was bigger and i learned how to punch them in the nose as hard as i can. and he'd get beaten up, but he was pugnacious. and especially when elizabeth warren says you're dodging taxes. not only punching back and paying options and paying more tax than any human has paid to any government in history, but that gets him all set up and riled up. so, he will get pugnacious politically, but i'm sure he'll do it to people on the right as well as the left. neil: about mark zuckerberg and that relationship and whether they were going to have a physical throwdown, the best i could tell on capitol hill yesterday, they didn't. was that all just drama? >> yes, yes. i kept telling people, wait a

minute, this is a drama, this is a drama magnet. he loves stuff like that. he's not going to rent the colosseum in rome, put a cage in it and go in with mark zuckerberg. it's just part of -- i mean, his sense of humor may be different from yours or mine, but it has that sort of "monty python" mix with a sophomore in college dorm room and that was sort of a role playing sense of humor. i kept telling people don't buy your tickets to that cage match yet. neil: there was no cage match. the book continues to sizzle on various sales lists, again, walter isaacson with intriguing world of the world's richest man. in the meantime, back to what's going on in politics, of course, we're knee deep in that talking to nikki haley who is surging in a lot of key poles, but to a scary moment at least last night for democratic presidential candidate robert f. kennedy, jr. in los angeles. alexandria hoff has more.

>> neil, this was a frightening incident that played out in los angeles theater where robert f. kennedy, jr. was speaking yesterday afternoon. police say there was a suspect there. he was posing as an officer, as part of the detail, the security detail for rfk, jr. the suspect didn't make any threats, but he was impersonating a u.s. marshal. more frightening, this theater is located two miles from where his father bobby kennedy was assassinated in 1968. and he expressed gratitude to security and l.a.p.d. for rapidly depaining detaining the suspect and he was armed with pistols loaded on him. and rfk says i'm the first presidential candidate to whom the white house has denied a request for protection. so meanwhile, here in washington last night, republican presidential candidates, including former president trump appeared at the pray boat stand summit making

appeal to evangelical voters. >> i wanted to, and had to stand up to the communists, the marxists, the atheists, the evil and demonic forces that want to destroy our country. they're destroying our country. i took their fire and i did it gladly. i'm protecting the people in this room, i'm protecting the people of this nation. >> trump holds a growing lead over his g.o.p. opponents according to the latest fox news poll. preferred by 60% of republican primary voters, up 7 points from last month. governor ron desantis has dropped two points and vivek ramaswamy. and they want this where religion is tolerated, but not allowed to flourish. >> faith, patriotism, hard work, family, these things have

disappeared and that leaves a moral vacuum in its wake. >> tonight is the faith and freedom coalition's presidential town hall in iowa. you have nine g.o.p. taking part in that, former president trump not being one of them. neil: thank you very much. honored to have nikki haley because right now, the republican presidential candidate, our ambassador to the united nations during the trump years, governor to south carolina. great to have you. >> thank you, neil. great to be here, i was able to drive a combine and gaining some ground. >> you're dead even for second, it would seem with ron desantis and i want to touch on those, ambassador. i want your thought on this scary, could have been a scary incident for robert f. kennedy, jr. where they seized a guy who dressed himself up as a

marshal, loaded for bear and don't know what his intentions were. we know that he does not enjoy secret service protection. this kind of issue comes up after these kind of incidents as you're aware. do you think that all presidential candidates should have secret service protection, no matter who they are? >> look, it's tough, neil, i'll tell you that we had an event and when i came out of the event someone came out and lodged at me and tried to get into our car and we had quite an incident, too. it's tough. you know, when you're dealing with the public, and you're dealing with people that are-- that have high emotions and feel a certain way, we all face a threat in doing that, but you know, i certainly am not sitting there asking for it. i think it's up to, you know, the government to decide when a presidential candidate should get it, but i feel for what happened to kennedy and i know that-- i know the feeling of what that is and we face those as well. it kind of comes with the territory. neil: this isn't your field and

i apologize for pursuing it with other question, ambassador. there's a slight difference with a robert f. kennedy, jr., considering what happened to his father, to his uncle and i'm wondering whether that should have been considered? that wouldn't be your call, of course, that would be technically the president's call or the treasury's call in charge of secret service, i understand that. but that he is not like the other candidates, yourself included, given that family history? >> i mean, look, if anybody doesn't feel safe, you know, they should be able to go and apply and say, look, we need some extra security there, but that-- at the end of the day, that's up to an administration to decide. again, we're all candidates, we're all out there. we're all doing, you know, what we need to do to save this country and there's a-- there's consequences with that. and so, we have to take extra precautions one way or the other. some of candidates have a lots of security detail. some of us don't.

we choose to have that money go to of tv and that's the price you pay. >> and robert kennedy, jr. does have a private security detail. and for the auto workers strike, we understand that chrysler is the latest company to have offered a 21% pay raise for workers over those four years. that kind of mimics what ford and gm offered. that was quickly turned down. what do you make of that and where this is going. they're turning down a raise like that, what does that tell you? >> well, i think that's -- it tells you that when you have the most pro-union president and he touts that he is em boldening the unions, this is what you get. and i tell you who pays for it, the taxpayers. here from what i understand,

the union is asking for a 40% raise and the companies have come back with a 20% raise and i think any of the taxpayers would love a 20% raise and think that's great. the problem is, we're all going to suffer from this, this is going to cause things to go up and this is going to last a while. but when you have a president constantly saying, go union, go union, this is what you get. the unions get emboldened and asking for things that companies have a tough time doing. so, i don't think government should get involved in this. these are private sector matters, but i do think the tone of how a president talks about unions and how a president emboldens them plays a role in this and we've seen biden has done play a role in this. neil: do you and would you draw a line, ambassador, if you were president of the united states for union jobs versus any jobs, this president does clearly prioritize union jobs and he's made very clear here that union workers deserve more, that

their pay increases have not come close to the success and the money that all of these auto companies have enjoyed. what do you say to that? >> well, i'll tell you, in south carolina as governor, i mean, we were building planes with boeing, we were building more bmw's than any place in the world. i recruited mercedes benz, volvo, and tire companies. i was a union buster, i didn't want to bring in companies that were unionized simply because i didn't want to have that change the environment in our state. we very much watched out for workers, but the way we watched out for workers was we didn't encourage middle men between companies and their workers. we encouraged the workers to have that direct communication with them. and so, i would always tell our ceo's, it's really important that you let the workers be a part of the solutions with your company. it's really important that if you're going to have them work on a sunday, you give them notice and let them do that. it's really important that you have family days so that families can see what their loved ones are doing. it's that communication between

management and the workers that i think is so important. you put middlemen like a union in there where they are just making money off the workers, i think it's a lose-lose situation. it's a lose for the companies, it's a lose for the workers. and that's why i think it's wrong to embolden the unions. instead embolden the workers and communication with management. neil: it's very tough language, governor. i'm just wondering how union workers hearing you now might feel it about that. ronald reagan is the last republican president to have won the union vote in is the 84 and did so back in 1980 as well. what would-- >> i would tell you to ask-- >> go ahead. >> ask the people in south carolina. i mean, you know, what we had was we had-- we had good working environment, we had good pay, we had great communication and our companies took care of our people, but i was on our companies constantly to take care of our people because i

didn't think a middle person needed to do that. so workers were very happy. they felt heard, they felt like companies were listening to them and we need to get back to that. that's the focus where we should be, you know, really building bridges is between the workers and the management of these companies. you know, you don't need a union boss coming in, taking money and dues from workers, telling companies what they have to do all because it's a win for them and it's a loss for everybody else. and you know, drives up the cost for taxpayers. that's a dangerous thing. but i didn't have any problems in south carolina and we didn't have any unionization. if anything, we went and we fought against the national labor relations board. they tried to stop boeing from producing because they thought that we were-- they didn't want us building this plant because it would hurt the workers in washington state. and we said, no, we're going to embolden workers in south carolina and let them do what we need to and not going to let the unions go and pick these fights. we are going to let the people decide what they want to do and in the end it was a win had

hadden-- it was a win-win. neil: you were success in south carolina yet, donald trump leads you by 28 points in the latest south carolina poll. does that trouble you? >> doesn't trouble me at all. you know, we just got started in terms of the debate season. post labor day kicking things off, we had an event in north charleston, south carolina. we had a thousand people there. we were in indianland the week before in south carolina and we had a thousand people there, too. the momentum is good. the strength is good. we've got the phones ringing and we've got money coming in to nikki haley.com, but we've got a country to save and it's time for a new generational leader. we have to focus on that. republicans lost the last seven out of the eight popular votes for president, that's nothing to be proud of. we should want to win the majority of americans, and more than that, that we never have a president kamala harris, that's why primaries are important and

make sure you elect someone. neil: they know you, governor, know you well and harken back to your success yet i notice in the same poll, only one out of three south carolina primary voters say that joe biden won the last election fair and square. what do you think of that? >> i think people were suspicious of the elections. i think that they were worried that, you know, you didn't have voter i.d. in states like we have in south carolina. you had a lot of mail-out balloting and they were concerned about. so i think the goal is to bring back the trust of the american people and in south carolina, we passed voter i.d. if you have to show a picture i.d. to get sudafed, if you have to show a picture i.d. to get on a plane. you should have to show picture i.d. to protect the integrity of the election process. voter i.d. is important. i think that south carolinians are rightly concerned, that we

want voter i.d. across the country so no one has doubt on elections. neil: you're tough on foreign policy and impressive debate points when you took on ramaswamy on the issue that our role in the world order here, but i'm wondering about the direction and maybe the mixed signals out of the republican party these days. ambassador, not too long ago, congressman chip roy of texas got a lot of applause from conservatives at a prayer breakfast for saying that we've got to stop ukraine's blank check. other republicans are saying, it's not worth it. it's time to stop making this another vietnam. you've said don't pull an afghanistan here. don't pull out now. you seem to be at cross-purposes with many in your own party. >> look, i always speak hard truths because i think the american people deserve it. i think that we have to look at

this, you know, for what it is. america can never be so arrogant to think that we don't need friends. we should never be so arrogant to think that another 9/11 won't happen. what you have is you have this pro-american freedom-loving country, democracy, that was invaded by a thug, the same thug who held hands with president xi prior to the olympics and they name themselves unlimited partners. remember dictators tell you exactly what they're going to do. they're very transparent. china said they'd cake htake hong kong, russia said after ukraine it's poland and baltics, that's a war. my husband is in the military, we don't want men and women going to war. that does not mean you give cash to ukraine. i don't believe giving straight up cash to any country.

that doesn't mean you put troops on the ground. neil: i understand that. >> we need to work with our eye lies to make sure they have the equipment and ammunition to win. neil: i apologize. there are many house g.o.p. members who want to strip out that, i believe the $24 billion targeted for ukraine in a defense appropriations measure. what do you tell them? >> i tell that we've spent 3.5% of our defense budget. percentage of gdp, 11 european countries have put in more than us. that's a small price to pay to prevent war. that's a small price to pay to prevent my husband and other military members having to go to war. a win for russia is a win for china. we can never forget that. if ukraine wins it's the biggest message to china in terms of invading taiwan. why do taiwanese support the u.s. in ukraine. neil: thank you.

we look forward to seeing you in iowa and look forward to the dig debate. >> absolutely, go to nikki haley.com and join our fight. neil: i had a feeling you'd get that this there. thank you, ambassador, thank you. >> thank you. neil: that will do it for us, we'll have updates on fox how the strike is going. right now they're miles apart. . this one wins the series.] struck out with the cheap seats? important things aren't worth compromising. at farmers, we offer both quality insurance and great savings. (crowd cheers) here, take mine. (farmers mnemonic) ♪ ♪ every day can be extraordinary with rich, creamy, delicious fage total yogurt.

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