i don't know what will trigger that. that is something to watch real closely. because that is a distortion created by the fed when they took rates down to 0%. >> neil: gary, i didn't tell you what my wife and i paid for our first mortgage? 13.5%. i did. 1,000 times. gary, good seeing you. thank you very much. gary has an uncanny read of the markets. very impressive. a sell off today at wall and broad. as gary said, the betting is the fed won't raise rates tomorrow but they are going to telegraph concern and they could signal a rate hike coming up a the next meeting six weeks later. too soon to tell. that seems to be a sentiment that is building. what is that about sentiment that builds? a snapshot? you heard that before. here's "the five." dana: hello, everyone.

i'm dana perino along with judge jeanine pirro, jesse watters, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. america's sporting events descending into anarchy and now sadly death. every week there are wild scenes showing out of control fans slugging it out and there's a huge brawl at houston texans games and the washington commanders and arizona cardinal asman got charged with assault after a vicious beating. it's not just in the stands. the san francisco 49ers and las vegas raiders fans during the preseason ended with two people getting stabbed at a restaurant next to the stadium. and going for dale moonny. a new england patriot season ticketholder who was beaten to death after alleged altercation

with miami dolphins fan. no charges have been filed yet as police wait on the results of autopsy and a witness describing what happened. # >> after 30 seconds i thought he was going to wake and you happen he didn't move after about two minutes. everyone figured out there was an issue. he looked lifeless leaving and it was sad. nobody goes to do the game to witness a fight like that. such a senseless way and could have been avoided by all parties. >> dana: very senseless and so sad. jesse watters, your thoughts on this? >> jesse: emma accidently wore the wrong color at eagles nfl championship game and we were

playing the vikings and they were purpose and will wore a similar color to purpose million and they were throwing things and i was catching them. shotgunning them and i was protecting her but it was a big mistake. not telling people if you go to an away game not to wear the home team jersey, but you have to be a little aware of your surroundings and after covid, there's been a lack of civility that's been normalized and people come out and don't look at them as objects and see them as human beings and there's a lack of discipline and consequences in the united states. at home, parents don't discipline and schools don't discipline and legal system doesn't discipline and coast through life getting away with pretty much everything. so people have gotten used to it. the phone gives you instant gratification and we're hitting a button and do whatever you want like that and you're in a face-to-face confrontation and you want something, a seat to

get by and a drink and you don't get it and you take action. it's said and people are fighting for clout. i don't know if people are doing this to get famous, but people are sharing these videos and they're getting a lot of response in social media. i don't like this. we have stoked so much anger towards each other. the last five years which was hating the un-vaxed, hating trump voters and people are kind of on edge and you have to learn how to de-ischia late and that's what i do. deescalate and you have to survive. >> dana: sports is maybe not the only thing but one of the thins that can bring people together even thornhill tore if they disagree about hawkeyes who should win. >> greg: i wouldn't know, i don't watch sports but jesse said everything i was going to say. i don't know what to co. look at certain variables like social media, covid lockdowns and this decline in responsibility, we are incentivizing

self-destruction and destruction of others and we're in a weird spiral. look at other examples whether it's like taking selfies on a cliff and then disappearing or filming yourself walking into strangers homes and scaring them, you can add escalation of aggressive behavior and deescalation is no considered -- is no longer considered a talent because it won't get the likes; right? it's considered perhaps more oppressive than the violence itself and the idea of self-control is no longer required of anyone at work. we elevate feelings over output and social settings and we act out and that is re-branded as influencing and act stupid, get followers and that's all that goes on in my neighborhood. escalating aggression makes for entertainment and infamy and peep don't stop fights and they'd rather up load to world star hip hop and if that exists, i don't know. this could be the by-product of

three years of isolation and appeasement signals and don't have two parent family, who was there to remind you how to be a sent l person that would rat -- gentle person that would assault shnikeys and we might be in a dark period and feels like and this isn't science. but it feels like disorder is the rule now and not the exception. and since it is the rule, why not fight then if you have witnessed so many violence and criminallalty that goes un-punished today, you know, why don't you join the fight? i mean, humans absorb the environments they're in. if you listen to got music, there's depressed and hang out with drunks and get drunk. our brains are shelf space really to be filled like wise when violence becomes alternative lifestyle and why am i getting arrested and that person isn't? so maybe i shouldn't wear a trump hate and wear blm

merchandise. >> dana: yesterday, judge, we started our show with that horrific murder in las vegas where you had the young 17-year-old who decided to attack the guy from behind and talked about a lack of humanity and that's what we're talking about here. it's interesting because when you lead the five, into something that's on the minds of us and our viewers and across the country. >> jeanine: one thing that we learned, i suspect everyone at this table learned was we learned about good sportsmanship. that when you lose you have to be polite. think about it. in this world today, we're all winners, okay. no one is being taught that, you know, that there's a winner and there's a loser. everybody is a winner and everybody get astro fio and that's what's going obstructing cerumen -- gets a trophy and you go to a game and there's really losers and people that don't have skin in the game. they're not even apart of the team. they've become so outraged that they are willing to kill somebody. and we shouldn't have to see

stabbings and beatings that end up in a merchandise in a sporting event where people go to forget their problems and join other people and who knows whether it's the pandemic or covid or the -- we're in a lack of civility and lack of consequence and there's a lack of law enforcement and there is chaos and anarchy. there is no -- there is no law and order anymore. so, you know, when you've got a laker's guard who says he won't take his kids to a basketball game because he doesn't want his kids to hear about what some of the fans are saying about him, you know that we are really on the edge since the evolution of society. we were looking at video as greg was talking and there are women beating each other up. young girls and it's unheard of. but now it is the norm. and if some of the people had intervened and taking videos of the guy being beaten to death, they might have saved his life.

the same with two kids yesterday and killing the retired police chief and the sheriff sitting in his car. it's like murder and mayhem is acceptable. >> dana: before we go to harold, i want to ask, do you think there'll be charges in this case? >> jeanine: yes, i do. he was a 30 year guy who had tickets to the patriot games. this isn't a guy that had a problem before. and he was murdered. there's no question it was a homicide. >> dana: harold, your thoughts? you have a young family and teaching them about sportsmanship and do you think about maybe not taking them to games like this? >> i do. i've taken them to knicks games and taken them to the soccer game to watch messy and it's interesting and nothing against eagles fans and philadelphia has a reputation that stadium and raiders stadium has a reputation and there's a jailhouse at the bottom or used to for a long period of time. we're drowning in anger in the country for some reason. we're drowning in, you've said it, incivility. we're drowning in a lack of dee

sen seizure disorders. there was a time -- dee sen seizdecency andgoing to move tot has a different team than your own team. i hate what everybody is saying, and i think it could be covid or whatever and likely is a lack of consequences, we need more police, we need more consequences and for that matter not only at stadium but for that young, i hope what you said was right, yesterday, judge, that young man in las vegas gets as high of sentence as possible if not the death. he's 17 but needs the strongest penalty. it concerns me that somehow or another, we talk about parent as lot when we see some videos of kids and other people behaving wrongly. something's not right in our society and i hope that parents, whether you have a 3-year-old or 30-year-old, you call them today. you hug them today and give them a little discipline today because this is not right that this young man, he's a father. he won't go home again.

going to a football game had a dolphins jersey on and that was his crime. that was his -- what got him singled out. i don't think there's any doubt people should want people to try and intervene and people to stop people. but something's not right in society when this is happening. it causes all of us to take a hard look at who we are and what we're teaching and who we want to be and more importantly what we want our kids to be regardless of their age. >> dana: dale moony was 53 years old and his wife said according to stadium footage, he never flew a punch but lost his life and may he rest in peace. >> went to root for the dolphins and now he's dead. >> dana: pentagon under fire for losing and finding an $80 million fighter jet. ♪

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♪ >> greg: the pentagon losing one of america's most fist skated weapons like it was a set of car keys for 28 hours. our nation's top brass conned find an $80 million fighter jet that went missing and the pilot forced to eject from the cockpit over an unknown issue and the transponder shutoff. again for some unknown reason and search got to desperate, the general public was asked to help locate it and the marine corp. had to ground all jets. eventually they found the wreckage in south carolina estate, dana. some 80 miles from where it took

off. not surprising, the biden administration doesn't have any answers. >> how does the united states lose track of an $80, $90 million f-35. >> the pen gone, just before coming to see you, i called my colleagues to check in on that and they're investigating this entire mishap as you could anyway and the service connected and have recovery of the aircraft and search and recovery of that being different when this is over. there's be a complete transparent comprehensive investigation and count on the defense department to come public with what they've learned. >> if the pilot ejected and when we're supposed to do rescap over the area and hit the f-35 opportunistic auto pilot and not

on auto pilot and their plane is going to trim himself for the reality and auto pilot will take over and if the debris field is going to have a jet and flew for another 80 miles. it can easily do that. >> harold in the green room, this is yet another insurrection and clearly trump supporters built the plane and the pilot was a democrat protester. >> i want to check the tape and make sure it's good. i don't recall that. this is -- i'm not going to speculate a whole lot. when i saw the story earlier and listened to that fella on your show and this made me think a couple things this is happening in the last few months and this could be some sort of infiltration from someone and outside of the united states when you think about all those that happened in the last week and the hotels and them being

out with a whole range of companies are out here and with what we've known over the last couple years and is there some foreign infiltration here and i trust mr. kirby is right and getting the manufacture of that and that's waiting for the facts to come out. >> greg: ai harold. all right. dana in the green room, you said obviously they're not talking about this because the pilot a female is so sexist and explain your theories. >> dana: i can't believe it. it's outrageous and the story is quite wild. a spending fight and you've

losing things that apple air tag on and asking the neighborhood watch program on. >> dana: there's a story of china and russia leapfrogging us with the hyper speed missiles. we need to get ahead and this might not be the way to do it. >> greg: apple air tags for planes. seeps easy. i have one on my dog. was that elmore barring and they shouldn't have ejected he or she or they? >> jeanine: i don't have the slightest because the pentagon doesn't know and pompeo doesn't know and kirby said we really don't know. what's crazy about this, if he ejects and made the decision to eject and should the plane just

drop down at that point or how far does it go? what if it were over a city or a hospital or a school? we could lose something and class a mishap and something worth 2 pl 2.5 million and evere goes we've got to find this thing and we can't and ask the public. have you seen an f-35 in the area. think how crazy that is. you know, it's like typical for this administration; right. they lost 85 migrant kids and $80 billion in military equipment in afghanistan, service members there. they lost cocaine at the white house and one purpose -- one person in the white house actually lost his mind. >> greg: there you go. jesse, in the green room you said to me issue obviously it's

a male pilot and found the plane and nicely parked between the lines. lines. >> jesse: i came out and looked at emma's car the other day and there was a little dent. i said what's this dent? she said oh, oh, that? she had an explanation. but she was contrite. we're just asking for a little contrition. that was a couple hundred on her car and this is 100 million. we paid for that and talk about the $6 billion lost in afghanistan and all the money left in ukraine. no one is saying taxpayers, we apologize. this is a $1.7 trillion joint fighter program over the course of the program. and they're so expensive, they're like lamborghinis, we don't really even use them. i read they can take off and land vertically and they hover. think about that. but we're so --->>

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♪ >> jesse: gavin newsom sucking up to sleepy joe biden is wants the big guy to get reeleelectedd is he boosting his own image and the democratic party. gavin is making media rounds and creating contrast with the 80-year-old commander in chief. >> i remember bobby ken day said it best -- kennedy said is best, not a time of life but state of mind. quality of imagination. i want a seasoned pro. knows how to get things done and i'm a little old fashioned and a guy that produces results. >> jesse: gavin tries to build grand, democrats are saying shocking things about joe bind. one party member telling the washington post "he's in a period of his life and passing and death is imminent. we are all on a ticking close clock. when you're his age or trump's age, that clock is ticking faster and that's a concern for voters. we have seen so much of gavin

newsom. he's a california guy and all over the country, dana. what's going on? >> dana: i think a couple things, one he is figuring out a way to keep himself in the news and would like to run for president and told the white house i'll do whatever you want and defend him no matter what. he knows that at some point, there is an end to the road. whether it's now or in the future, he wants to be able to be there and very little confidence to be there and he doesn't see her being able to win a presidency. he thinks he does. now, he was on another program and couldn't answer the question about abortion. if there was a limit up till a baby was born and if he'd support limits. it's not just a political

question. if you want to lead, you have to make decisions and so that will be something he'll have to deal with and other thing i would mention is that california is about to lose five congressional districts in the next apportionment psychoand will why would that be? everyone wants to leave. it's too expensive. might be beautiful there and too expensive and the crime is high and homelessness is a huge problem and they also just passed this -- basically passing a policy that's suing school districts for telling teachers they can't keep secrets from parents about their kids. that's why people want to leave. he's the root cause of that and san francisco as well. >> jesse: you mentioned his lack of confidence in the vice president and gavin newsom on kamala harris. >> she's the best choice. >> i mean, by definition. if i think this administration in the last two and a half years was the most outstanding in a few decades and she's a member of that administration, she gets to claim credit to a lot of that success. the answer is absolutely.

>> jesse: you buying that, judge? >> jeanine: no, and i'll tell you why. even though he says i give credit for what the administration has done and she's very much apart of the administration. his first answer is by definition, she is the best person. well, of course by definition she's the best person. she's the vice president. she sits with the president. eergoby definition, the best person to be the president. i agree with day narcs he's playing the long game and he's like a lion in the grasses waiting for his opportunity where he can jump out and throw his jacket over his shoulder and slick his hair back and saying i'm ready and here and loyal. almost like the dark chocolate and the york peppermint patty and keep moving. he also is defending the family by saying using your family to get a little influence is hardly

unique. he's covering for the bidens and getting all the good will that he can possibly get. >> jesse: everybody does it, come on. is this the movie, the good soldier and gets the blessing of the biden administration. >> maybe, i think a couple of things first that was a great interview by him and others were good and this is his best and looks the part, sounds the part and he's the best surrogate that president biden has if i were president biden and whatever you did to get that and you have to try to convince them. protecting women and the things that are strengths of the president and republican or democrat and you want someone out there doing what he did and second box, president biden's

weakness heading into this is crime on the border. there's still time to address these issues and i might ask governor newsom to help lead an effort to help us understand better if vice president harris is not going to do it or both to do it to find out the best crime practice in the country and we did something and dallas police chief and dallas got the highest rankings for police moral and public safety and one of the ranks. that would be one of the best practices that i would bring back to washington with the new crime bill and that's the new crime bill and vice president harris and be a big part of that. i want to give donald trump some credit. i don't know if others will give him credit. what he's doing on abortion, talking about reproductive rights is going to moderate the republican party and make you more mainstream so it's not something that a democrat should be promoting but it's best when both parties are strong and we can talk about their ideas for the future. whatever you may think, abortion, i'm for limits.

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♪ >> jeanine: a gramny winning country -- grammy winning country star leaving the genera

that made her famous and saying it's toxic and racist and maren morris said it revealed who people were and proud to be trans-phobic and misogyny ick and she's smearing fans that enjoy hit songs like jason aldean's try that in a small town. "people are streaming these songs out of spite. t not out of true joy or love of the music. it's to own the libs. music is supposed to be the voice of the oppressed. the actual oppressed. discussion. >> dana: let's go. >> jeanine: here we go, dana. isn't this classic liberalism and racist or my josh nest if you don't -- misogynies if you

don't fit the narrative. >> dana: people are playing the songs and that's what music is supposed to be about and write songs about joy and enjoy those and play them on repeat but maybe you like try this in a small town. who is she to decide who gets to stream a song. if they play it over and over again. oppression for some people might take the form of what's been called the forgotten man. so she's mad about that? i don't think this is necessarily going to work. for her. taylor swift, when she decided to blend into pop after country, she kept all of her country fans and grew it so she wanted to do that and wanted to be a big star and obviously she is. maren morris thinks she's going to do the same thing but might be surprised and not necessarily like that . the reason that country music fans like oliver's song or aldean's song is because it

reflects their lived experience and that's what country music is good at. a lot of people in nashville would say bye bye. >> jeanine: harold, i think she's the hypocrite here and i want to know what you think and she's got a song about leaving country muse and i can using the genera to make that song. i want no part and i'll take the money and stay in as long as i can sing this song. >> yeah, we did a story about -- luke combs and saying tracy chapman and not tracy chapman and somebody thought tracy chapman would be offended to this and music world would not have accepted tracy. music is about joy and elmore empowerment and universal way to communicate and this young lady has a strong theory of the case to believe what she believes, go to muse and i can compose and sing what she wants. there's no need to frown on or

pour gasoline on toxicity of the muse and i can when i was growing up, there were people that made rap muse and i can those criticized saying it was breaching and still people criticize aspects of hip hop saying it promotes things that are not positive about those in communities and promoting glamourizing guns and violence and hip hop customer not do that and this is a function of her age and it's not hoping she continues to make music and let other people make music too. we all decide to turn that dial and go to that sides for the matter and i hope she stops criticizing those. >> jeanine: she's not criticizing jason aldean and his wife calling her an insurrectionist barbie and a scum bag human. >> greg: wow, insurrectionist basbarbie is a toy i would buy.

get on that. by the way, dana, white people can't be oppressed. aren't you aware that every single white person is a millionaire and the real headline is country star no one heard of is publicity getting the easy way ask trashing fans and going woke. however, momentary will be fading away and no one can trust her but i like to help. i'm a helpful person and rewrote classic country song, judge, to sing without feeling inner shame and here we go. stand by your man and stand by your whatever. wichita linemen, wichita clansmen. momma, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys and don't let them grow up to be cowboys and perpetuate them to be pate

patriarchies and man, i feel like a woman. >> jeanine: she basically says that country music has a historoy of mis-sole judgism and racism and time to open the gates to queers and people of color. i have a whole list of singers here, little nas-x, darius rucker. >> she's naive to the truth. >> jesse: crying over insurrectionist barbie and the sources saying you can't fire me because i quit. country music community not wanting to be associated with her anymore. and she had gone on stage with drag queens and gone woke and lost her fan base and trying to transitioning into pop. i don't think it's going to work out. >> jeanine: very interesting. you have good sources. >> jesse: i have one source. >> jeanine: yeah. coming up, helicopter parents

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♪ >> chris stapleton. parents really got to learn how to cut the cord and let their kids grow up. moms and dads are hiring concierge services to spoil their kids at college and shelling out $10,000 a year. just give them a hug or deliver dorm essentials like chicken soup or jell-o when they're sick. if they have a bad day, take them to lunch. did you do this, judge? any of the things that are talked about there with your kids, even -- i'll stop. >> jeanine: stop. yeah, i went there when they were sick, but they didn't want to see me. they wouldn't allow me in. you know, i was the da then. i was like the enemy. i wasn't supposed to show up and had to have someone else do it. >> you had someone else helping you?

>> jeanine: yeah. >> greg: i don't think you know this, but i volunteered to be a concierge for college services, preferably women's because i have a message table in my van. get early and inv involved in ge school and middle schools and build character and tailor to think for themselves. >> dana, a similar feel about this? >> dana: anyone over the age of 18 over his own laundry and been to the dry cleaner and not doing absolutely anything and disservice to them. as part of what's making our country soft again and pathetic. >> you talk a lot about your parents and the way you were the brought up, what's the thing you learn most and impart to your kids? >> jesse: do not cut the cord. streaming is overrated and i have to put four kids through

college. don't touch the cord. i had a guy that i knew at trinity and he never changed his sheets for a semester. second semester, he was asked to leave because he got all fs. it's totally correlated. you have to come in with a basic understanding of survival and that in means how to cook, take care of yourself, clean yourself and take care of your property. as we were just saying in the commercial break, my mother said resilience is the most important attribute when it comes to predicting success as adults. so if you can't even order chicken soup or heat it up in the microwave, it's not going to be good when you hit wall street. >> i try to do the three things, sportsmanship, they're 8 and 9, teaching them cadeness and teaching them to respect for others. >> jesse: soft. >> greg: didn't even let him finish. >> and resiliency. one more thing is up next.

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♪ >> dana: time now for "one more thing." i'm going to go go first. free i had an opportunity to do an event free even governor vitsd reporter taken by russians. he is a journalist and they are accusing him of spying. this was at the clinton global summit. important event with people like adam la tour, he is the ceo of the journal and dow jones and they are very committed to making sure that he gets back. >> jesse: you guys look amazing. >> dana: look how tall he is compared to the rest of us. i'm still the shortest. next to me is jason rezaian "the washington post" held by the iranians in console tear confinement unjustly. you have jody ginsburg of the committee to protect journalists and hillary clinton closed out the session. we thank them for their

attention to help get evan gershkovich back where he belongs. harold? >> harold: congratulations. everett wanted to conquer something big for his birthday oldest recorded hiker to climb the yosemite half dome. son and daughter joined him on the hike which can take 14 to 16 hours. he trained by climbing up the stairwell of 17-story building. congratulations to you. happy birthday to you. and can't wait to see what you do for your 94th. >> greg: you are doing a lot of old people stuff. >> harold: i want to get there. my kids are young. >> small geo magnetic storm produced a beautiful aurora across the midwest overnight on monday. the northern lights show come from charged particles that spewed from the sun during solar storms. the northern lights typically illuminate the light sky and higher altitudes. they can occasionally be spotted farther stout than normal. if you live in seales,

minneapolis, chicago or boston, be on the lookout between 10:00 p.m. tonight to 2:00 a.m. tomorrow for the aurora. >> dana: pretty cool. i have never seen that in person. >> jesse: don't you love the japanese, dana? the japanese as a people and country and civilization continue to amaze me. look at what they did on a bullet train. they are staging wrestling matches on traipse in japan you could never pull this offer in the united states. >> greg: we just did an a block on this. >> jesse: this is different. they are just different in a better way. some ways than the united states and i have deep respect. deep respect not just for their physiques and their form but their tenacity. >> dana: are they on the show tonight? [laughter] >> jesse: they are not on the show tonight. >> judge jeanine: why would want a guy next to you in underwear on the airplane.

>> greg: to each his own. >> jesse: 8:00, that's me. >> greg: wow. >> jesse: i'll explain later. >> greg: tonight we have freight show jamie lissow and tom shillue. more dan ortegas and kat timpf. it's going to be a barn burner. i don't mean that literally because i don't want anyone go out and burn barnes. barnes are important part to our nature's infrastructure. >> jesse: save our barnes. >> greg: s.o.b.? >> harold: did you go, barn. [laughter] >> greg: i'm going to shut up. i had a celebrity sight but i didn't think we would have enough time to do it. >> jesse: we have time. >> greg: all right. hey, did you hear that theview had a picnic? huh? i guess we did have time for that, huh? >> dana: that's it for us. have great night, everybody. ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening,