texas. you rock and my boyfriend loves your show. so that's the relationship. got it. well, you guys have a -- have great taste. dave have little rock. my daughter just pointed to the tv and said is that the guy you're always texting? i don't want any trouble. it is strictly professional. jim, naples. is jesse, junior old enough to do the i am waters and this is my world? he's close. i have him saying jesse watters, prime -- primetime. you know, he is not a trained monkey. we don't really do that. but we should. and maybe i'll videotape him doing that tomorrow and have it in my window. always remember, i'm watters and this is my world. >> all right.

wow. we have a rowdy studio audience here. thank you all for coming. we're so glad you're here. grab a seat. get comfortable. i feel like ar sin -- arseio hall. thank you for being here. >> usa! usa! usa! >> all right. i gotta get the show started. thank you all for coming. we do have a good show, great lineup. senator tim scott is here in the studio. in moments we will hear from house judiciary chairman jim jordan. yeah. they confronted merick garland

who frankly needs to be impeached over what was explosive hearing on capitol hill. more than half of the country no longer trusts garland and for good reason. biden's so-called justice system has become weaponized and paw lit sized like the fbi beyond belief, unequal prosecution and unequal sentencing and unequal application of our laws. we don't have equal justice under the law. a sitting president who of course has been shielded, protected from any and all legal scrutiny while donald j trump has been given stacked charges in one of the most aggressive prosecutions in american history. this has never happened to a former president one time. it has happened four times. perfectly timed even though it goes back years to the 2024 election season. but this is all news to merick garland.

the attorney general believes he has done a heroic job. he thinks he has done great leading a fair department of justice. for some reason, garland wasn't willing or able to answer questions in any direct or forthcoming manner as i predicted. take a look. >> have you had perm -- personal contract with anyone at headquarters about the hunter biden investigation? >> not -- i don't recollect the answer to that question, but the fbi works for the justice department. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. you don't recollect whether you have talked with anybody at fbi headquarters about an investigation into the president's son? >> i don't believe that i did. >> i don't believe. i don't remember. i don't recall. willful ignorance was the theme of the day for merick garland question after question after question. no clarity whatsoever. gar -- garland didn't seem to know much about anything to be honest and likely by design i

would think. garland, he's not a fool. on day one he knew the old biden family business was a huge problem. luckily for garland and of course joe biden, the solution was already in progress thanks to federal prosecutor weiss. the seemingly never ending investigation now five years long into hunter biden allow edgar land to distance himself and ignore all the questions about the allegations against joe and hunter. when he became special counsel i told you this would happen. at the same time, garland put a big show about his integrity, his independence, are bragging that he and weiss had the undisputed power to bring charges anywhere, any jurisdiction, knowing full well that weiss was not using that authority at all and told the irs, whistleblowers, they didn't have the authority and contradicted himself to jim jordan and lindsey graham. after getting turned away by

biden-appointed prosecutors in another district, weiss was reportedly just simply content. plan a was to charge hunter with nothing. it was to close the investigation. it's over. all of a sudden we have the irs whistleblowers show up and sound the alarm. take a look. >> you said he had complete authority, but he had already been turned down. he wanted to bring action in the district of columbia and the u.s. attorney there said no you can't. and you tell the united states senate under oath he has complete authority. >> i am gonna say again, no one had the authority to turn him down. they could refuse to partner with him. >> you can use whatever language refuse to partner is turning down. >> from the looks of all this, either garland was lying under oath or weiss did all the dirty work while the attorney general was pretending to bury his head in the sand. of course, the weiss case is now a disaster in every single way, multiple serious allegations of misconduct from government whistleblowers and an fbi whistleblower followed

by a highly unusual sweetheart deal that was rejected by the judge. remember, that was plan b because they didn't plan on originally charging hunter biden. okay, whistleblowers show up. let's act like we will slap him on the wrist and insert in the plea agreement in the gun charge provision, the diversion program. oh, full immunity for hunter. no jail time. after five years of investigating weiss, he allowed the statute out of -- statute of limitations to run out on some of the most serious tax charges during the barisma years, what a coincidence. in spite of all of this, you know who garland appointed as special counsel to clean up davis weiss' mess. he appointed david weiss, of course. it is almost like the goal is to protect joe biden instead of prosecuting serious crimes. listen to this. >> mr. garland, i want to go back to this question.

did you consider anyone else when david weiss requested special counsel designation on august 8th? >> mr. weiss asked to be made special counsel. i did not consider an alternative. >> i want to be clear. he was the only one under consideration. if there was a special counsel it would be the guy who presided over the investigation the last five years? they made a decision to say we're gonna let the statute of limitations lapse and i want to know who decided that and why they did it. >> mr. weiss was a supervisor in the investigation at that time and at all times. he made the appropriate decisions. you will be able to ask him that question. >> you know why they did it. everyone knows why they did it. they may not say it, but everyone knows why they did it. those tax years, that dealt with the -- that involved the president. it's one thing to have a gun charge in delaware. that doesn't involve the president of the united states. barisma, oh my. that goes right to the white house. we can't have that.

>> why would garland ever consider anyone else? weiss already sacrificed -- you're right. he sacrificed his reputation to protect joe biden. right on cue, a couple of gun charges, plan c, against hunter showed up. not against joe, the low-hanging fruit. now that the plea deal imploded thanks to the delaware judge, actually read the plea agreement and asked the prosecution, have you seen a deal like this before? and they said no they never saw one and why are you offering it? a federal judge demanded action. by the way, no violations and the tax charges and statute of limitations charges go away. nothing that would implicate hunted -- hunter's father, the big guy, joe, who joe gave half his income to pops and paid pop had's home repairs. we have the emails about that. and joe biden has lied and changed his story repeatedly and was up to his eyeballs engaging with hunter's business

partners both here at home and abroad. the doj, they will go to great lengths to serve joe biden and other democrats for that matter. if you are part of the blm riots, tried to burn down a federal courthouse in 2020, 574 riots, if you surrounded a supreme court justice's home and surrounded them with mobs, the doj was more than happy to let you off the hook. if you were accused of obstructing a sidewalk outside an abortion clinic legally, get ready for a s.w.a.t team to come knock on your door and guns drawn and full tactile gear and file serious felonies and a lengthy prison sentence. you all know it is true. we don't have equal justice. biden's weaponized doj has so much contempt for half the country that they are criminalizing conservatives while protecting the likes of the clintons, the bidens and anyone that's a democrat.

today garland couldn't even give a direct answer to this simple question about traditional catholics who are allegedly targeted and spied on by the fbi and the doj because of their deep-abiding faith, r. >> attorney general, through the chair i ask you, do you agree that traditional catholics are violent extremists? >> i have no idea what traditional means here. >> catholics that go to church. >> may i answer your question. >> yes or no. >> the idea that someone with my family background would discriminate against any religion is so outrageous, so absurd. >> mr. attorney general, it was your fbi that did this. it was your fbi that was sending, and we have the memos and the emails, were sending undercover agents into catholic churches. >> now our justice system is broken and our attorney general is an arrogant, de september

tiff -- deceptive hack and the far left democrats with trump derangement syndrome, we are still one election away from turning this around. here with more is house judiciary chairman jim jordan is with us. [applause]. mr. jordan, garland said that weiss has always had the authority to charge hunter under any circumstances anywhere. says weiss -- since weiss never changed his story, i watch you contradict that in great specificity and in detail. would you care to go over that so anybody in america that missed can hear it? >> he had the authority so why does he need the authority? that to me makes no sense. but that is exactly what he tried to say. i had to make him a special counsel and so i don't get it. the three letters they sent to us this summer, one to our

committee and one to senator graham tell three stories. the point i make is the story whose been consistent is the two whistleblowers. their testimony has not wavered and they were subjected to about three hours of cross-examination from democrats and the oversight committee back in july. don't forget, july 10th, david weiss tells senator graham i have not talked to special counsel authority. then the attorney general announce that's david weiss will be special counsel. what happened in those 32 days? what took place.? the whistleblowers came forward with testimony and the plea deal they were trying to sweep everything under the rug. the plea deal was declined by a judge who did her job. that's why we got a special counsel. they were gonna get away with all this. but for those two great whistleblowers and the judge in delaware who did her job. >> let me ask you. you had a line of questioning with the attorney general about the statute of limitations and why the statute of limitations lacked and why it was important in the years 20 with un4 and --

2014 and 15. these were the barisma attack years and you gave four fact that's were critical regarding this. can you break that down for this audience stp. >> the facts are simple. number one, hunter biden is on the board of barisma and is paid millions of those tax years, 14 and 15. fact number 2, he wasn't qualified to be on the board. he said it, not me. he said he got the position largely because of his last name. devon archer said the brand was joe biden and the biden name. fact number 3, the barisma executives asked hunter biden can you help us we are under pressure from the prosecutor can you help us there was a call made to dc and joe biden goes to ukraine and asks for tax dollars to fire the prosecutor who was putting the appreciate other barisma. those facts are not in dispute. they are as solid as can be. the 4th exact is exactly what the confidential human source told the fbi and the fbi

recorded in the 1023 form, the same 1023 form that christopher ray didn't want congress to sa. you have corroborating evidence. that's the pattern. they let the statute of limitations lapse, expire. there is probably no one, any person in your audience, the raw -- rawkus studio audience, i bet they don't let it lapse for them, but they let it lapse for the president's son because barisa goes to the white house and joe biden is involved. not on the gun charge. they can do that. that doesn't involve joe biden. but on barisma, it goes to joe biden. >> let me ask the fundamental question, as garland was pleading ignorance all day long, does the attorney general not have to sign up? the first plan was no charges. the second plan was okay the slap on the wrist deal and we'll put in the plea deal and an immunity deal in the gun

diversion portion of this. thankfully the judge caught that. and then plan c was we have to indict him on the gun charge, but it protects joe. if hunter has to be sacrificed, he's sacrificed. he was pleading, oh no, independence for weiss. wouldn't an attorney general have to sign off on whatever decisions are made here? >> you would think particularly when supposedly david weiss goes, and this is testimony we have. david weiss goes to the district attorney and declines to prosecute. you would think the district attorney would weigh in then and he didn't. now he is weighing in with the special counsel. the other thing that is happening in the third plan, i think the special counsel allows him to extend this out even further. we'll see what that all means. david weiss is scheduled to be in front of our committee on october 11th. they committed to have him come in front of the committee and i hope they will honor their commitment. >> char man jordan -- chairman jordan, great job. thank you for being with us.

the head of hunter biden's arraignment and the president's son requested more special treatment from the legal system asking to appear in court remotely through a webcam. a federal judge denied the request and hunter will now appear in person like everyone else. here now with reaction is fox news contributors kellyanne conway and ari fleischer. okay. i'm glad about that part. hunter has to do that. kelly anne, let me start with you. i would really like to know, when you look at this in total and you look at the aggressive prosecution of donald trump who you worked for for all those years and you look at the absolute -- the opposite treatment, no prosecutor would prosecute, subpoenaed emails, deleted 33,000, no problem. four locations and top secret classified information for joe biden. no raids, no charges, nothing. what should the average

american especially conservatives think about law and order and justice in this country? >> that there is special treatment. i thought what the delaware judge did today was masterful. finally for the first time in years if not decades hunter biden and his family is being told no special treatment for you. here is a guy, hunter biden, who we are told lives at the white house and flies to arkansas in a private jet, his friend's jet, to deny paternity and compensation and birthright and the family name to his daughter, but has no time to go to delaware where he is far too often along with his father to go and appear in front of court. so i think this is the wall starting to break a little for hunter biden. people have had enough. this gun charge is serious. other people have been prosecuted and punished for it, and he will have to, under oath, admit also that he lied about using and being addicted to narcotics as part of that -- as part of that same time

period. also he at the time was involved in a relationship with his deceased brother's widow, halley, who it is alleged through one of hunter's guns into a bin, a container behind the market. all this stuff that the white house denies as picking on poor hunter and the president is proud of his son and leave him alone already, that's all going to be under oath and we can see that. it is finally time for this. conservatives -- not just conservatives, but donald trump is beating joe biden in the polls by double-digits among independents and it is for the reasons you laid out. people are tired of unfair treatment. these independents, i think we are finally starting to see. not a lot of democrats seem to be -- they seem to be supporting biden as a nominee, but don't seem to be defending his son and him. >> they are turning on him. >> i think if the bidens are hung out, they will find somebody else to be on the ticket. >> what about the joe part, ari

fleischer, lying repeatedly saying he never spoke to hunter or his brother for that matter, and then we find these meetings took place in the white house with his, you know, with hunter's partners here in america? and then we have the phone calls that devon archer talked about with the foreign business partners and the meeting with the russian oliguar. why the suspicious activity reports 170? why the shell corporation? how did 9 biden family members tkpwett paid? get paid? what did hunter do when he admits he had no experience and was an addict at the time? what about the grandchildren who were paid? what did they do for their money? any of this make sense to you? >> sure it makes sense. that's what you do if you are the president's son and your last name is biden. no other president's son has done this kind of thing. >> maybe he can adopt me. i'll be pretty rich.

[applause]. >> sean, you're better than a biden. you don't want that. >> it was a joke. listen, here's the problem i have with all of this. hunter biden said that his -- i'm sorry. it wasn't hunter who said it. the people making the accusations against hunter biden are who? it is not jim jordan. it is not republicans. it is hunter's business partners. it is the people who he worked with who know the facts, who are on the inside. these aren't partisan republicans. they are eyewitnesses. what did they say? they testified under oath that joe biden 20 times got on the phone to help his son with business deals. that in and of itself is an act of corruption by the then vice president of the united states. i cannot imagine any other congressmen, senators or the president i ever worked forgetting on the phone to influence business deals for their children because they are sitting members of congress.

they know it is unethical and wrong. joe biden did it anyway, and he did it because he thought he would be protected. he thought the press wouldn't come after him. finally they are. the facts in this case are so bad for hunter. there are still the other charges that we hope to see if the other shoe drops beyond the gun charge that does get close to the white house because it involves his father's behavior. >> great point. >> and james comer said to me this week they think the bidens will get north of $50 million when it is all said and done. just the bidens they can track now and maybe more. thank you both. when we come back, joe biden embarrassed himself in front of world leaders yet again today. what a shock. we have the tape and we'll get reaction and vivek ramaswamy in the studio when we continue.

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we are here in new york city with a great crowd today. more meetings with world leaders and i wonder what impression they walked away with and of course more fundraisers. things did not go particularly well for joey, the president. take a look. >> can you hear me, president biden? this is a historical moment for brazil and for the u.s. president biden, can you hear me? you can? yes? good. >> i know i'm not supposed to speak again, but my dad used to have an expression. i was growing up, my father had an expression. my father was -- did not have a

college degree but was a well-read man and, woulded hard his life. he would say, joe, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. it is about your dignity. it is about self- self-respect. >> does that include hunter's job? and despite biden's constant struggles and mumbling and bumbling, his team is telling people to relax because they believe by focusing on donald trump and abortion they are going to be able to win easily next year. anyway, joining us live in studio 2024, presidential candidate sreuf -- vivek ramaswamy. >> good to see you, sean. >> good to see you. >> i've noticed as time has gotten on you have come under more fire. why do you think that is? >> well, i think it is politics. the start of the race i was at

0.0% at the polls and nobody cared about me at the race. if you are running for u.s., you can't handle the heat, are stay out of the kitchen. i can handle the heat. my view is, we talk to all media, left wing media, right wing media, no wing media. if i can't sit across the table from those who disagree with me, i shouldn't sit -- >> why sit with the [expletive] at cnn. >> there are times when i feel that way. but i am not running to lead a political party, sean. i am running to lead a nation. >> you want to be watched. >> my view is we have to talk to the people who disagree with us. when we do it, we show up and we win. with don lemon, are the last interview he did was one of the last ones before he got kicked off the air. we are doing services through the campaign. >> so you got don lemon fired?

>> that's what the "new york times" said. >> i don't think it is very complicated to be a conservative. i think we believe in limited government, lower taxes, more individual freedom. >> amen. >> look at the things we want. we can't secure borders and we want law and order and safety and security. we want energy independence. we can't constitutionists on the bench and believe in peace thraoeu strength and -- through strength and then leave us the hell alone and it is not that hard. >> and the thing in the country, that's not even a republican versus democrat idea. those are basic american ideals. i think 80% of the country agrees on the ideals you just listed. >> the american dream, the idea you get ahead in the country not on the color of your skin, but the content of your character. i think 80% of the people agree with that and half the 20 are people younger than me that never learned the ideals in the first place. we will bring them along too. and if we do, sean, i think we can win the 2024 election in a

landslide with a working-class coalition and leave no state left behind and no city left behind. with this failing president and the economy and the poorest border, this is our opportunity. if we have the courage to actually stand up for our own vision that's how we win. >> you are saying something deep and profound. the republican party has to be the party of working men and women. i believe that. >> yes. >> and it has to be the party that brings minorities on board. >> yes. >> that have been lied to and frankly disappointed regularly by the democratic party. they have been failed. the schools are failing. >> no doubt about it. sean i have gone to places like the south side of chicago or kensington in the inner city of philadelphia. >> and you didn't get shot. >> i mean, i have been to third-world countries growing up. you go to the third-world and you go to kensington in philadelphia. here is what i saw on the south side of chicago, 90% of black

groups and mostly democrats and agreed with me on mill tar rising the southern border and ending the border crisis that is impacting their community as much as republican communities across this country. america first includes all-americans. that's what i say. >> i agree. americans should not be suffering under biden's economy , his idiotic energy plans. we shouldn't have open borders. we need law and order. >> that's right. >> these are the basics. there are all preventable problems that he caused. why do you think he chose that path? >> look. i want to say something about biden and why i don't talk about him on the campaign trail. i don't even think he is the one running the country, sean. i think he is a puppet for the managerial class in the administrative state. mark my words, when i am the nominee, they are not gonna let him run against me. it will be the next puppet they trot out. we have to recognize this is a broken system and we have to stand up to the managerial

class, shutdown the three-letter agencies. it is not biden that is alone the problem. it is the three-letter agencies and the deep state. we have to get in there and shut it down. >> the upper echelon has taken control. >> the managerial class. there is 25% of the people in the agencies doing important work. i think we have to downsize the government significantly. 75% head count reduction, that's what i'm bringing to washington, d.c. >> vivek ramaswamy. when we come back, new accommodations for the senate so federman can feel at home on the senate floor. south carolina presidential candidate tim scott is ahead.

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>> all right, anyway, so we have this issue with the uaw and it is getting pretty interesting. one republican nominee for president has decided to take it on and that would be senator tim scott from the great state of south carolina. let's give a warm hannity audience welcome to senator scott. [applause]. >> how are you? >> great to see you. >> sean hannity, all right. >> we love having you. nice to see you again. >> absolutely. >> we had a great time in carolina with you. >> thank you for coming down. we love to see you in south carolina. >> i love south carolina better than here. >> we all love south carolina better than new york. absolutely. it is good to be home.

>> i don't think i often disagree with you. we have been friends a longtime. >> yes, sir. >> and i heard your comments about reagan and the uaw and you strike, you get fired. >> yes. >> here is where i might differ from you a little bit and tell me where i might be wrong. i'm looking at the uaw -- and by the way four-day workweek and 32 hours, take the proposal and no way. i work like 90 hours a week. sorry. nobody gets a four-day workweek. >> you -- yes. >> i don't know anybody that does president work 16, 14 hours a day. here is the thing, they are totally losing their jobs because of joe biden and this push toward electric vehicles. $4.5 billion profit loss on the ev line of ford that they are killing these workers. what recourse do they have? >> without question, any time you have a president who drives us to inflationary levels of 16%, this is like the sequel to

the jimmy carter years. it is devastating and it is devastating working-class americans. they lost thousands of dollars of spending power. whether you are a union or non-union worker you are being devastated by the biden-omics. one of the things i focused on, sean -- do you remember the with -- remember the $1.9 trillion covid deal package that passed? there was $86 billion to bail out the unions. that's terrible. >> that's nuts. >> they keep offering deals. >> because unions are forcing the democrats, you know. >> they own them. and when that happens the taxpayers -- there is no such thing as a federal dollar. it is your dollars. you own your dollars. putting $86 billion of your money into shoring up union pensions because they keep

overpromising and under delivering. it is just wrong. we need a president who says we are not going to subsidize unions, period. you made the deal. you live by the deal. if it goes belly up, it is not on the back of the taxpayers. >> how do you like this idea, usually ceo's and there is talk about disparity and ceo pay. most of the pay -- most of the time, not all the time, is based on performance. >> yes. >> what if they had the same type of performance where everybody has skin in the game. the company does well, these guys get massive pay increases, bonuses as well as the ceo's. that would keep it -- that would have everybody pulling in the same direction. >> it would make the world a better place. there is a company called new core steel in south carolina where many of the workers there make six-figure incomes because they get production bonuses. we should encourage and incent

compensation of the production of the company. when you make the company more money, you should share in the profits of the company. that's common sense in america. >> let me move to the controversial issue of abortion. have you distinguished yourself with some of your fellow candidates. i read it with great interest because i think that the issue politically of abortion, not the moral side of it, although they are probably intertwined, but the political side of it is i think probably the country politically is at the dobbs decision, 15 weeks, 12 weeks. you said there should be a ban after 15 weeks. states that make the decision say they should go longer than that. >> at 15 weeks a baby can suck his or her thumb, feel pain. three out of four americans say 15 weeks is the exact right place to be as it relates to

stopping radical states like new york, california and illinois on having abortion on demand up until the day of birth. that's just wrong. we as a nation, we're better than that. we have to learn to stand up for our rights and make sure every single child in every single state has the same rights. and that means 15 weeks should be a national limit. i want my entire presidential -- all the presidential candidates whether it is ron, nicky, the former president, they should support me with a 15-week limit. we can't trust california with anything. think about this. think about this. in california today they will take away a parent's rights to their kids if they don't agree with the gender decisions.

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>> all right. forget bidenomics. biden inflation continues its rein of terror over the economy that is killing every american. a poll shows 92% of the american people have had to cut down on spending, especially on things like new clothes, eating

out, because they could barely afford the essentials. 61% live paycheck to paycheck. biden's border crisis is stretching the budgets of local governments around the nation. here in new york, $40,000 this year for every illegal immigrant. they are a sanctuary city. all the way out to denver which just announced it spent $25 million on housing illegal immigrants. are they housing oeur -- our veterans are -- that are homeless? and what is joe biden doing about these issues? he has launched something called the american climate core. young kids, young adults paid $15 an hour and put to work implementing energy-efficient technologies and advancing environmental justice. gee, that's great news. here with reaction, he is the host of the big money show, a co-host, brian bremburg.

>> don't miss this. >> former education secretary betsy tkau -- devoss. that's at 1 p.m. tickets are free. >> event bright.com. senator tim scott will be there too. it is great. >> he is basically piggybacking on my show. >> let's take hannity and do it tomorrow on fox business. this american climate core, first of all it has to be unconstitutional. how can the president do this when congress hasn't passed it. the other part is this, you talk about inflation and interest rates. you have more spending coming from the president and more spending on migrants. that's why your inflation is going up and that's why you can't afford a house and that's why you can't find one on the market right now. all of this is related. he wants to separate it and you can't do it. >> the feds passed on raising interest rates, but inflation has gone on. now gas is back to $4 a gallon

and $100 a barrel for oil which means that in two months gas prices are going to be $4.50 a gallon and maybe higher. inflation has to go up. that means interest rates have to go up yet again. >> bad news is that it has already been ticking up again because oil has been going up again. and you're right. as that raises, the feds say, is the administration gonna cut spending? are they gonna do anything to fight inflation stp they are not going to do anything. they just want to keep the money flowing. you are paying 9.5% for a new car that cost $50,000. -p can middle america afford that? they can't because the president all he talks about with unions and middle america, middle out, bottom up, he does not care a wit about the average working american in this country. you don't take my word for it. look at the policy. >> add to that they want you to change your gas stove and get

rid of your air conditioner and all of these other appliances taken away. who will pay for all of that? >> they want the bureaucrats to go shopping for you, and then they put it on your bill. if you can't afford it, they start handing out government cash and they put it on the taxpayers tab. >> $33 trillion new debt. >> and it is going up. until you get a new policy or administration, are you not going to fix that problem. it is a generational issue for your kids and grandkids. we have to get a handle on it. >> the republicans in the house have to hold the line and force a spending issue. brian, see you tomorrow. coming up, howard stern says he's woke and he's proud of it. reaction ahead as we continue

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all right. howard stern got famous by being offensive, and he was proud of. it now howard has been reborn as a woke social justice warrior. howard, what happened? >> i kind of take that as a compliment that i'm woke. i'll tell you how i feel about it. to me the opposite of woke is being asleep. and if woke means i can't get behind trump which i think is what it means or that i support people who want to be transgender or i'm for the vaccine, dude, call me woke as you [bleep] want. i'm not for stupidity. i am woke [bleep] and i love it. >> wow. here is reaction [boos].

you know, i admire him as a broadcaster and one of the things that was quintessential howard in this was he took criticism and gave an honest answer. i give him credit for that. i don't know what happened. the guy that i felt i listened to would have loved an iconic, classic, straight forward, hard-hitting guy like trump. he would not be hiding in his closet afraid of covid. that's not the guy that i thought i knew. >> it's well said, sean. look, he is a radio legend and i both -- >> talented. >> we do radio daily and we understand what that you are ares. the howard stern today would, as you said, hate, absolutely hate the howard stern of 25 years ago and vice-versa. i think he is an emblematic example, sean, of what happens when people got broken by

donald trump and covid, the combination of the two of them. the guy didn't leave his house for two and a half years. he just left his house to get his covid booster shot. by the way, how many people in your audience are going to get their covid booster shot at any point? how many people are going to get your six-month -- like the cdc said, your covid shot. part of howard stern's pop -- popularity, sean, was his rebellion against the status quo. now he has become a zealous add srau -- advocate of the status quo and of authority. he's become the opposite of what he used to be. you saw when he went after the congressman for the dress she wore. he said it was too much. this is a guy that used to have lesbians having sex on the radio and live on the air, and now he is grabbing his pearls and fainting on the couch because an attractive woman wears a sexy dress?

>> you raise a good point. he is the guy that said lesbians equal ratings. he did say that. it's fine. everybody has a chance to evolve. he wants to get as many shots as he wants, then i believe in freedom. i don't think anybody is against personal choices of adults, but we don't want our kids in -- indoctrinated by teachers into transgender and gender identity. i prefer reading, writing, math, science, computers. stick to the basics. >> here is what i would say, sean. when he defined woke, to me woke means identity politics over everything. you don't care about anything other than who you vote for, what your race is and what your gender is. that's how woke ideology has taken over in america. i don't think howard understands it. i think he's lost. i think he stopped being a rebel. frankly, i think his show is boring which is the ultimate indictment of everything. >> i think he's proud of it.

he's being honest. that i can uh -- applaud and appreciate. i do. it has defined him his whole career. i kind of like the other guy a lot better that was irreverent and politically incorrect. >> you know, we have not been -- he gets paid more money, almost probably second to god when it comes to entertainment. clay, great to see you, my friend. thank you. unfortunately that's all the time we have left. quick reminder, live studio audience show. we having a great time? >> [applause]. >> come and see us. tickets are free. hannity.com. we have in studio guests and special guests. in the meantime, let not your heart be troubled. greg gutfeld is standing by and he will put a smile on your face. thank you for being with us.