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border this morning. earlier this week we saw a record daily number topping 10,000. and the cvp reporting record numbers for august and we're told that secretary mayorkas will visit the border today with the president of honduras. griff jenkins is in eagle pass, texas with the very latest, griff. griff: that's right, secretary mayorkas visiting mcallen, texas, but not here in eagle pass. this is undoubtedly ground zero more than 750 arriving since we have' been here when the sun came up. let me take you up to the drone again, charles, to see what's happening here. this is actually a live shot of our ground camera getting the migrants and now, you can pull back a little bit from our fox flight team and see the situation. obviously, miles of that razor wire, dense and dangerous lining the banks of the rio
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grande and the migrants streaming across, all a part of the overwhelming numbers we've been getting here. now, i mentioned we've had 750 so far this morning, but, charles, they've had in excess of 11,000 this past week in just this area, most of these migrants are coming from venezuela and of course, they're crawling through the razor wire, we've been showing you, makes it so difficult. you can see, also, as we're showing you the shot now, we saw some migrants after the last live shot. we showed them struggling in the river. dangerous in the currents, three drownings in three days and that's unbelievably high number that just simply should not happen, but yet, they continue to come because they have high hopes of being released into the u.s. in the case of venezuela, the news reaching south of the border that the venezuelan migrants are receiving temporary protective status which gives them the ability to get work permits and protects them from
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deportation for some 18 months. now, we were able to speak with the maverick county sheriff, a former border patrol agent and now a sheriff. he gave his insight about what he thinks is happening and it's pretty stunning. listen, charles. never, never, never, i retired from bore didder patrol and worked here in eagle pass, maverick county, never did i thought or never saw this problem in eagle pass with the immigrants, never. griff: and among those high numbers, we're seeing the fiscal year totals reaching more than 2.2 million so far, with a few days left in this fiscal year. among them, charles, more than 60% were single adults. back to you. charles: griff, thanks a lot. my next guest's county has been overwhelmed by this crisis. brad is sheriff of kinney county, texas.
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and from maverick county, he said they've never seen anything like this. and you've never seen anything like this? >> i've never seen anything like this, we're both retired border patrol, and he's been in maverick county and i've been in kenny county. never like this. charles: although new york can say it's crippled by this crisis, what it could be doing to the county the size of yours. >> my county, total population is 3100, and right now they're sitting on 11,000 down in eagle pass, which is just a stone three from here. the population of maverick county is around 30,000. new york city receiving 10, 12,000 migrants is nothing compared to what we're having to deal with down here. charles: i was reading last summer, i think it was last july, you actually took some migrants back to the border and you looked at them and said
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they were going pretty good and listen, you said to get the quote right, you wanted them to get home safely and secure and you took it upon yourself to drive them back. i mean, what kind of pushback did you get for that? >> really, i didn't get any pushback on that because people were trying to say that i deported them. deportation is a process. charles: right. >> and these people had been involved in an accident and border patrol wouldn't take them, e.m.s. cleared them they were okay so i asked them do you want to go back home? and they just, yeah, we'll go home. so we took them back to the port of entry and off they went. charles: sheriff, if you could get the ear of one of the elected officials from the administration and make the rare trip down that way, what would you tell them? what do you think could help resolve this situation? >> well, first of all, none of them are going to come. the only one that ever told me the truth face-to-face is ted
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cruz and he told me i'm on my own. they're going to come down and look and say it's a bad situation. the problem with the venezuelans right now at one time they were a rich country because of poor management and leadership, become one of the poorest in the world and offering temporary protected status. and there's not a war going on in venezuela, shouldn't qualify for that. no major catastrophe like a hurricane or earthquake and shouldn't qualify for that. just based on economic, they shouldn't be granted protected status. that's coming from the sheriff's department. charles: you work hard to keep the county safe and we appreciate you coming on and thank you for your service. >> thank you all very much. charles: you can bet obviously 2024 g.o.p. hopefuls are going to hammering away on president biden on this crisis and during the debate on fox business, which candidate has the strongest message for the
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voters? let's ask. noel, it's low hanging fruit with respect to the republican party, but which candidate is really honing in on the right message? >> well, you know, first of all, coming at this from a fund raising point of view, you've got a lot of money that's probably going to be raised on the candidate with the best message. with that said, the one that's got a lot of experience on that, other than donald trump because if you look back, that's what donald trump ran and won with was immigration, which basically, a lot of times, is a sleeper issue. and it looks like it's revving up again, so take donald trump aside because we know that he is the winner on immigration, that's his -- that's his baby, but look at ron desantis. ron desantis has actually had to deal with this hands-on. so if you look at all of the candidates together. all have great messages, anyone
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on the stage, as far as i'm concerned, has great republican values and would be a great leader, but if you take each of the candidates and you look at experience with immigration, that's going to be ron desantis and he was pretty -- he hammered it pretty hard on the first debate on fox news, stating he wasn't going to tolerant whatsoever on immigration. a lot of people want to hear that. and some people that didn't have to deal with this -- i'm in new york city and we're seeing the overflow. people who never had to think about immigration, it's touching all corners of the united states. >> virtual signaling is nice, but when you have to deal with these things, it becomes completely different. you mentioned governor desantis and we've got a new fox power pole and desantis holding steady, but the sort of nice trajectory, vivek ramaswamy and of course, nikki haley, they're
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coming on really strong. it's too early to talk about make or break. how does it set the stage for the debate? >> well, it sets the stage because i think that people are looking and narrowing it down. i deal with the donor class, so i'm paying attention to what a lot of the check writers, and i've had a lot of my donors that are looking-- they were luke warm on nikki haley, but looking to her, they think she's pretty strong. the temperament on ron desantis is about the same. they think he's qualified. charles: let me jump in one second, weren't the heavy hitters writing big time checks to governor desantis initially and start today get a little queasy about the fact that the needle wasn't moving? >> yeah, charles, they really expected him with his record on being an outstanding governor in the state of florida and a lot of people flocked to florida sauce they like the way that ron desantis governs.
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a lot of the donors were banking on it. i mean, it was almost like the jeb bush effect. once again, you know, you've got a donor that's looking at numbers and these guys, you know, these major donors, these major businessmen like ken griffin and the likes of these types of donors, they're not idiots, so they're looking at numbers. if your horse is not getting to the gate with good numbers, you really don't want to keep stroking these checks so a lot of them are sitting on the sidelines keeping their powder dry to see exactly how this is going to shake up about of they give any more money and a lot of people were disappointed that ron desantis, you know, had a less than appealing, more of a low, lackluster appeal when he announced for governor-- i mean, for president. charles: by the way, ken griffin just moved his entire company to florida so he does believe-- he did have a lot of belief at least initially. during the debate, what do you
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think is going to emerge? there's an interesting thing that takes over. the last debate we saw a lot of back and forth. everyone going off vivek. do you think the same thing could happen to nikki haley? it feels like survivor. >> you brought that up. yeah, i think that people are going to be gunning for nikki haley now. she can take it, she's a fighter and she also has a lot of experience and they're also going to expect more out of tim scott. i think that tim scott, a lot of people like that guy and pulling for them on some sort of the ticket they want him. he's got to bring a little more fire than he did the last time and vivek, he's going to continue to blow it away because he's a master, he's an intellect and a great debater. charles: you know, if tim scott is watching, i have two words for you, sharper elbows. sharper elbows. noel, always great seeing you. thanks a lot. >> thanks. charles: folks, again, you've got to watch the second g.o.p.
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down temporarily as chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and he remains on the panel saying he's not stepping down from the senate. despite calls from top democrats in the state, including phil murphy, saying that it affects him to represent the people of our state, therefore, i'm calling for immediate resignation. the long serving senator and his wife nadine has been accused of a corrupt relationship with three new jersey businessmen. according to the prosecutors that he enriched the mean in exchange for gifts which was discovered when the property was searched. >> approximately $500,000 in cash, stuffed into envelopes and closets and some stuffed in the senator's jacket pockets. >> prosecutors said they found over $100,000 worth gold bars and a mercedes allegedly provided to the county. in three counties, accusing the
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senator of receiving the gifts by using to with the egyptian government. and he said i'm not going anywhere. the senator is expected to appear in court on wednesday. he was tried six years ago on unrelated bribery charges and he was charged with a hung jury. charles: and for the prosecutors how serious are the charges? let's talk to guy lewis. because he wasn't charged in foreign affairs, this aid or helping the egyptian president, this, i think, is probably the most problematic part of all of this is very, very worrisome. this is a very powerful committee that he was in charge of. your thoughts and the evidence pointing to this. >> hey, charles. thanks for having me.
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boy, oh, boy, it's straight out-- to me, it's straight out of the sopranos, that have him in his pocket for sure. the evidence is strong. i've been very critical of the fbi and the special prosecutor lately because of the hunter biden case. in this case i'll pat him on the back and the fbi on the back because they've done an extraordinary job building a very strong case. as you mentioned, one of the key points is the influence that they were purchasing through him in the foreign affairs issue. and, and, him, the senator, attempting and trying to influence criminal prosecutions, state and federal, and they've just got the-- the evidence is just as strong as any i've ever seen. charles: guy, to your point. a 39-page indictment apparently
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one article laid out in painstaking details a series of deleted text messages, encrypted phone calls, shell company payments and then -- you know, this is the part, you talk about sopranos. think about this with things falling off the back of a truck. the bribes included two exercise machines and an air purifi purifier. it doesn't get any better for this than the imagination, but it doesn't get any worse for this for the nation. this is a u.s. senator that we're talking about. >> a senior u.s. senator who has access to classified information, sensitive information providing through his wife to the egyptian foreign nationals. i've got to tell you, they really did their homework. searches, cash, gold. charles: fingerprints. >> fingerprints, meetings, photographs, i mean, look, you
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know, i don't know what else neck have except a confession. charles: right. >> which they don't have. he's denying it profusely, but i don't think it's going to take a jury, whether it's in new jersey, new york, whatever, 10 minutes to decide he's guilty as sin. charles: again, back to the egyptian part. so u.s. lawmakers, this is back in july, u.s. lawmakers urging to withhold military aid to egypt. they wanted the administration to withhold $320 million. these are, by the way, all fellow democrats. chris murphy, sherrod brown, durbin, sanders, warren, caine, carper. and in this committee. and as we dig in there, a leader that some are taking rights away from their people, i think it's interesting to juxtapose that allowing people
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into our country saying they're escaping persecution. one you can't have evidence and still pushing through these funds and mostly because, perhaps, i'm speculating, because of the efforts of senator menendez. >> well, you make a great point, charles. and the evidence supports everything you just said. the text messages, the confection between the senator, his wife and the egyptian nationals. they've got it sewn up, again, dead to right, and i compare that to hunter biden and how they sat on that case and they've done nothing. and again, i credit the fbi and the u.s. attorney in new york, who clearly is independent, who clearly has no ties to politics or to the administration. 's done a heck of a job here. charles: guy lewis, thank you
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so much. i really appreciate it. all right, folks, how a potential government shutdown next week could create a nightmare for travelers, and then, bah humbug, why the federal reserve may be worrying that santa's getting too much help delivering those gifts this year. #
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>> lawmakers grilling treasury secretary, transportation secretary pete buttigieg on capitol hill this week over the travel nightmares. fox news's chad has more. >> they told flight cancellations are less now, 1.6%
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of all flights. the lawmakers peppered the secretary with questions about the nation's capacity to handle the flying public. >> we do have a pilot shortage. i fly around a lot of time, cancel, cancel, cancel. do you believe at a certain age, people should be forced to refire. this arbitrary age of 65. do you think that's fair, that's right? >> yes. >> you do? >>, but buttigieg warned a government shutdown in a week could harm aviation and tourism. >> one of the reasons we've viewed the delays and cancellations last year unacceptable and pleased to see them getting better, estimate 3,000 plus more people we need qualified than we have today. a government shutdown would stop that training. even a shutdown lasting a few weeks could set us back by months or more. >> buttigieg also made the case for electric cars. he says that the u.s. fails to manufacture ev's, china will. >> so, is your position that we are going to lose all of these
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jobs, that's what has to happen, or china's going to build all of these vehicles? >> you know one of the reasons we've seen manufacturing jobs grow in this administration compared to the last administration-- >> you're investing our money in things why don't want. buttigieg looked at his department and not focusing on transportation. charles: should people worry about transportation? kyle bailey mere is discuss. we're worried now every time we go to the airport, right? it's been a mess for the last couple of years and is it possible it could get worse? >> yeah, it definitely will get worse and with this government shutdown looming, as the secretary said, the pipeline for training are going to be affected. there are about 2500. my big concern is the tsa
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employees, typically lower income, 19, $20 an hour, who are struggling to make ends meet. so if they're without a paycheck for a couple of weeks, that's a big deal. so, i think from a security line perspective, if the government is shut down, i think that's the real concern. the air traffic controllers, that's pretty much like $120,000 job most are making and they all will be working and have to report to work, but i think it's the lower income where we're going to see delays as a result of -- at the security lines at these big airports. charles: one of the questions brought up, the retirement age. mandatory at 65. the secretary saying he's okay, he likes that idea. it's ironic since he doesn't apply that to the white house. but there's a lot of folks out there that could be helping out, smooth the system out, 66, 67 years old, what do you think? >> that's a temporary fix, it's
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not like a smoking gun to solve the problem. charles: right, but we need a bridge to the ultimate fix, but what is the ultimate fix? >> the ultimate fix is after the crash, requiring the pilot and co-pilot, minimum 1500 hires in the cockpit. co-pilots it's hard to get to the 1500 magic number. in my opinion, that number should be relaxed at least temporarily to get more co-pilots in the system to perform as they did before the colgan air cash. charles: what about the feeder system? do we have enough people applying to are the job? >> even the commuter airliners that have 30, 40 passengersthe staple standards as a 757 or 767. lowering the flight hours would be the great temporary fix.
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>> before i let you go. ama amazing. one of the pilots who ejected from the jet. >> what happened? >> we've got a pilot in the house and i guess he landed in my back yard and we're trying to see if we can get an ambulance to the house. >> we had a military jet crash, i'm the pilot. we need to get rescue rolling. i'm not sure where the airplane is. it would have crash landed somewhere. i ejected. charles: and the 911 operator is come on, this has got to be a prank, but that was a huge story the fact that we couldn't find an f-35 for a long time. >> yeah, i mean, that's something that you don't hear every day, but the bottom line when they eject. normally it's in very rural areas and they try to put it down somewhere in the middle of nowhere. you don't know where it's going
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to land, once you're out of there. it's interesting he landed so close to an actual house. normally in the middle of a cornfield or something like that. charles: should we be happen that the stealth system worked? we couldn't find an f-35. it seemed like, we all watch the movies and they have the homing signal and you beep in, they get the rescue team moving before it lands or in this case, crashes. >> the great thing he survived and there were no injuries. charles: that's a miracle. thanks a lot, my man. >> thanks, charles. charles: all right, a government shutdown looms over washington. ukraine president zelenskyy pleading his case at the capitol to keep funding his fight. while shoppers are showing a few signs of stopping, companies are struggling. so, there's obviously mixed messages about our economy. we're going to delve into that next. we're not writers, but we help you shape your financial story. ♪ we're not an airline, but our network connects global businesses across nearly 160 markets.
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>> ukrainian president zelenskyy visiting washington this week where he met with
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president biden and some lawmakers as a debate intensifies over sending more aid to the war torn country. the white house announce ago new $325 million weapons package for ukraine which will include a small number of long range missiles. and mark is following it all at the white house. >> charles, good morning once again. the white house says the position remains firm providing aid to ukraine for as long as it takes. and next week, including tanks are scheduled to arrive in the war-torn country. as you mentioned we saw their president, volodymyr zelenskyy meeting with president biden and other lawmakers to discuss the war and ukraine's ongoing needs on an economic military and humanitarian front. president zelenskyy telling president biden the assistance so far has meant everything to his country. >> our countries are really, truly allies, and we appreciate
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that, the assistance provided by the united states to ukraine to combat russian terror, really terror. >> u.s. officials tell fox after months of debate, the united states will soon send a small number of longer range missiles to ukraine. these missiles known as the army tactical missile system have a range up to 190 miles, but we don't know how many of these systems are going into ukraine, or how soon they'll get there. while top senate leaders insist they're ready to provide ukraine more support, there is a bitter debate among some republicans about how much more military aid, if any, to give ukraine. this week, a handful of republican lawmakers sending the white house a scathing letter demanding to know how much money has gone to the war and will continue to go to the war. they write, the american people deserve to know what their money has gone to. how is the counteroffensive going? are the ukrainians closer to victory than six months ago? what is our strategy and what the president's exit plan.
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that's what we've heard lot about and house speaker kevin mccarthy raised additional concerns how much money is going to the front and announced that he's going to strip some of the money for ukraine aid out of an appropriation bill and have lawmakers vote on it separately because there's been so much pushback from some of these house republicans, charles. charles: thank you, mark. well will sending abrams tanks and long range missiles be a game changer? colonel bob mcginnis joins me now. since the beginning of this, sort of the narrative has been, when ukraine gets x weapons system things will change. now, i know a lot of this stuff is getting there late, but as it gets there, it looks like things aren't necessarily changing as long as we want. >> it's too late for the current counteroffensive that's going to end in a matter of weeks, charles. it looks as if we're in kind of a world war i stalemate trench
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more at this point. a little push here, a push back there. now, the long-range weapons such as the attackems, could make a difference depending how many they provide. truly an offensive weapon, 190 miles, as your reporter indicated. it can reach deep inside russia. they've attacked russia with drones and of course, we're giving them f-16s that are going to be armed with aim 9 and aim 120 air defense systems that could be used against incoming missiles or also ground fortifications and just yesterday, of course, we've heard the use of a storm shadow provided by the u.k. that knocked a facility, the crimean headquarters of the russian navy out of action. so they're really on the offensive as best as they can, and of course, much more is in jeopardy, the more eequip them with very sophisticated weapons. charles: when you say in
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jeopardy, the likelihood that this, there could be some strike within russia that allows russia to expand with their resources and how they go after this, how they approach this war? >> yeah, we've already seen the use of drones after aircraft in russia, after buildings in the kremlin area, and even putin's home, evidently, in the south of moscow. so, when you consider all of this, the ukrainians are taking the fight to them. and arguably we understand. they've been under, you know, the thumb of the russians for a long time and suffered tremendous casualties and great devastation, especially in the east of that country, but i think that n.a.t.o., and of course the u.s.'s calculation here is that this is going to somehow change what we're doing. i'm not sure of that. you know, i think the war was preventible at the beginning and now i'm very concerned that an errant missile could provoke a
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poland or a lithuania and cause the, you know, call up of article five and bring us all into this mix. we need to be careful about advancing this any further than we have. charles: and i want to hit you with two things in the next two minutes, that's all the time we have. you brought up poland. they're pulling back a lot of support, you know, it feels like the first crack in that united front, and so, how concerned are you that this crack can widen? >> well, it's a matter that all european countries are investing heavily in their militaries given the invasion in ukraine. the poles in take particular case are only going to send older weapons that have been outmoded and not going to the modernization of the polish army. i can understand that, that comes from the president of that country, but it's in the mix of a political campaign. other countries are arming up heavily as well. they are concerned that russia,
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you know, given backup from the likes of china, perhaps, certainly that the north koreans that putin negotiated with recently. charles: right. >> this could quickly get out of hand if we don't contain it and express our interest as soon as possible from the president on down. charles: real quickly. you talked about a modern day trench warfare. would that be a defacto victory for russia, a stalemate? >> not necessarily. depends upon what they negotiate the final line to be. are they going to leave russia in charge of crimea and the eastern donbas area or are they going to alo you ukraine to reoccupy that region? at this point it is sort of a stalemate and unless, you know, additional forces, you know, come to bear both adversaries here, you don't have the true capability of pushing the other in the direction that they desire. so, and they're not going to
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quit. so it's really a matter of exhausting resources on both sides. charles: thank you so much. lt. colonel maginnis, always appreciate your knowledge on this. >> thanks, charles. charles: vice-president kamala harris is warning of climb climate anxiety and forcing young adults to rethink major life moves, but what are they saying? that's next. ♪ this isn't just freight.
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vice-president harris has a theory. she says it's due to the environment, making these comments as part of her national fight for our freedoms college tour. take a listen. >> i've heard young leaders talk with me about a term they've coined, called climate anxiety, right? which is fear of the future and the unknown, of whether it makes sense for you to even think about having children, whether it makes sense for you to think about aspiring to buy a home and what the climate will be. >> most the people we spoke to were concerned about climate change, but when we asked if that's why they put off starting families, here is what they had to say. >> the carbon footprint. >> that's not my top reason for not having children. >> a lot of young people have a lot of student debt. i feel like that's the reason why. >> it's expensive. there's a lot of factors, besides climate that go into it. i never factored that in, to be honest with you. >> young people are putting off
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big life decision and future plans. birth rates have fallen for six straight years. money seems to be one of the biggest reasons for that. and that matches up with the recent fox news polling that shows that money and prices are the top concerns for americans. americans are very concerned about inflation, the cost of housing, and being able to pay the bills. add kids in, and that all gets harder and more expensive. on the home front, with mortgage rates pushing 8%. median home prices high and a slow builders market, it seems these factors weigh heavily on the youngest generation. i'll send it back to you. charles: madison, thanks so much. climate wasn't even on the list. here is something else that might give young americans anxiety. prices creep up and forcing federal reserve to keep interest rates up. what that means for everyone's money and our overall economy is next. ♪
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should let the audience know that bankruptcies right now running at a decade high pace and this will be one of the years. you've got the mixture and this has con founded the dead. no one can say what's going on. where is this economy? >> listen, i hear you, they're starting to talk about how great the holiday shopping season is going to be, a little bit of a disconnect to me. i understand that amazon and others are hiring seasonal workers, that's fine, they always do it. i'm confused on the message sent. on the one hand, you have stretch consumers living paycheck to paycheck and tell everybody how great the holiday season is going to be, hand over fist. that prediction is too rosie in my mind. and there are people having difficulty and you can see it. rite aid is going out of business and more bankruptcies happening.
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charles: and danielle, the spending money is gone. every country in the west put out free money keep it going during covid and we ran out of money first, america, we go out and spend our cash, now what? >> now what is a really good question and i think that rather than listening to, i don't know, this he gave 19.7 billion dollars in lobbying last year. amazon, the largest corporate lobbyist in the country. i'd rather listen to what walmart said two weeks ago and that's what we're reducing starting pay and so many employers, to kenny's point, have said we're having no trouble anymore sourcing labor. how can you when rite aid is about to shut down 500 stores. that's the thing, it's a supply-demand thing. i'm going with the message in the bankruptcy cycle and what walmart, the country's largest private employer is telling us in terms of labor demand and consumers capacity to spend going into the holidays, which just is not going to be adequate
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to justify, pardon me, but at amazon's announcement. i just don't-- i don't understand the logic, but i can connect the dot by telling you they are the largest corporate in america. and brick and mortar, amazon doing well is not necessarily great news for main street. but the retailers, these stocks annih annihilated. foot locker, even nike, these are annihilated and the stock market is certainly saying something different. >> now, the retail acted fairly well, just up over double digits, right. charles: if you take amazon out of that, out of the retail index, the consumer discretionary index. >> it's flat. charles: and you look at foot locker, target, all of these names, it's a disaster. >> that's exactly right. that's what it's telling you, the economy is more of a -- that
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the information is jilted because of names like amazon and you have to be cautious and i think that the concern about the markets being overpriced and kind of repricing i think is really real. not that there's going to be a crash, but people should not be surprised if we see the market back off based on the broader economic tone that we see out there. charles: danielle, the fed was front and center this week. i'm not sure we know more after the meeting than before the meeting, but anxiety is up and it feels like the anxiety is up because jay powell has given up notion of a soft landing, bringing inflation down without hurting the economy severely. is there a slim chance we could have a soft landing? >> i don't think so, charles. and the fed and powell is telling you they're data dependent. a week from now we'll talk about the government shutdown and statistical agency are not going to provide the federal reserve the data they depend on.
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we don't get inflation readings. we won't get employment readings and that's going to make the fed generate more anxiety, more uncertainty for u.s. households and consumers for the stock market. charles: kenny, last word to you, real quick, my man. >> no, i think that danielle is exactly right. i think you have to be worried not only the strike that's happening. the uaw strike, ongoing in the ninth day. we talked about that earlier. worried about what the fed is going to do. are they going to continue to raise rates. what's going to happen next month in october when we get the cpi and ppi reports. charles: a lot going on and the market reflecting it. the market had a tough week. thank you for watching. neil will be back next week and you can catch me on the fox business network every weekday, 2 p.m., the show is called making money. i try my best. fox news live. control for parents. nice.
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