to get a better idea of where the asteroid is going and what it is made of. now that it has dropped off its sample from the asteroid, rex. it heads to another asteroid. the spacecraft will reach it in the year 2029. >> bill: awesome stuff. how do they figure that out? before we go just a reminder here big debate on wednesday. see you later this week, right? >> martha: wednesday i'll be here. >> bill: dana is crashing for the big test. best fastballs they can find. we'll see you at 3:00? it's only monday. here we go. here is harris. >> martha: see you later. >> harris: a democrat in deep trouble. fox news alert. new jersey democrat senator bob menendez is set to hold a news

conference this hour as calls for him to quit are deafeningly loud. prosecutors indicted him on federal corruption charges on friday. the second time this senator has been indicted while in office. yet democrats made him chairman of a big committee. he and his wife now are facing three counts of bribery and conspiracy. prosecutors say they found hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash, gold bars, stashed around the home. that's kind of gangster style. we'll see if it's true. menendez denies any wrongdoing and claims the charges are politically motivated. this will be the first we will hear from him since he was charged and we'll bring you that news conference by bob menendez live. and there is more breaking news this hour. president biden is facing a double whammy of brutal new poll numbers which no doubt must be keeping democrats worried, up at

night so to speak. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." for a white house that is no stranger to really pitiful numbers from voters, this may be a new bottom to the president. in both the "washington post" and nbc polls the president's disapproval hits a new high. 56% of voters polled say we don't like this guy. the president deeply under water on some very important issues. take a look. immigration, 23% say they approve of the job he is doing. only 23%. the president's most steadfast defenders like congressman jim clyburn of south carolina working to downplay the news. >> joe biden is a man full of substance. the style is something you get from another candidate you won't get it from him. he believes in democracy.

he believes in the american dream and he does what he possibly can to help people fulfill that dream and maintain that democracy. that is not the kind of stuff that you poll very well. >> harris: he says the president is full of substance. well, a writer of a new op-ed sees it very differently. arguing democrats chose biden, now they are doomed in 2024. white house correspondent peter doocy with the news outside the white house now. peter. >> officials here are saying they don't think it is that voters don't like what they hear from the biden administration, it is that maybe they just haven't heard enough. >> saw a poll two days ago that showed the president up plus five over the former president. we all have to do a much better job getting out the incredible record of success the biden/harris administration has had. >> donald trump nine point lead over biden in a "washington

post" news poll. the pollsters who administered the survey that it could be wrong. the difference between this poll as others as well as the unusual makeup of trump and biden coalitions in the survey suggest it is an outlier. there is nothing that white house officials can do to make president biden any younger but he has to say something to the 74% of people polled who think he is too old for another term. >> president biden: so i'm running again and you may have noticed a lot of people have focused on my age. well, i get it, believe me. i know better than anyone. but there is something else i know. when i came to office, this nation was flat on its back. i knew what to do. >> all indications are the cycle will be about age more than any other policy issue. >> i will take joe biden at age

86 on his worst day over donald trump on any day, a man with four criminal indictments hanging over his head. >> and that is along the lines of an old adage this president likes to use a lot, don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. harris. >> harris: peter, thank you very much. actually, it's a little more dire than what we knew at first. a stunning number of democrats, 59% say they want any candidate who is not joe biden. remember i've been saying for a while abb, anybody but biden. the numbers are hard and coming in. power panel jason chaffetz, fox news contributor, former utah congressman, scott bolden, former dc democratic party chairman. great to see you both. scott, i have heard you say many, many times and it's what democrats are doing now. it's not the message. not enough of the message has gotten out there. people are feeling the policies.

what part of the message do you want to convince them of that they are wrong? >> i think it is more than the message. that poll is on outlier across the board. we can concede that. what the democrats need to figure out is what this gap is not only in the messaging, but telling people why his legislative accomplishments and the economy and what he has done to fight that. what it means for them on a daily basis. those kitchen table issues. >> harris: you answered my question but you think it is positive. i'm saying what are you going to convince them of that isn't working? you are asking them to ignore the facts of their own lives. you just simply saying it over and over again won't be enough. >> that's not what i said. not only do you tell them that but you tell them why it's important and what it means to their daily lives. they aren't feeling it. i can see that as a democrat. it is not just a gap in messaging, it is a gap in prices

for food and gas and energy prices. i have to tell you whether he is old or young whether donald trump has been charged with 91 counts. if people don't feel like the prices are going down. they will look for an alternative. the broader polling says that democrats and republicans and independents don't like either one of these flawed candidates according to the polling. >> harris: you can make it what aboutism. we'll talk about the man who has the job who wants more of that job. when you have say there is a gap in pricing, is that fancy for you see some prices these other folks don't? we're all paying high prices, doesn't matter where you are. i want to get to jason now. if it's not biden. i can't imagine that democrats aren't thinking this already, who in the world should it be? >> well, they better come up with somebody. they are burning daylight now. the problem the democrats have, not only is joe biden a poor

communicator and gaffe machine, but they implemented the bidenomics. they implemented their policies. they got what they asked for on immigration and look where we're at. they did what they wanted to do on energy and look at the price of gasoline. they spent record amounts of money. we'll have a 2 trillion deficit. we've got inflation. they have no plan. nobody sees hope or conclusion. when james clyburn says joe biden believes in democracy, really? that's the best argument that he believes in democracy? that won't help anybody who is fighting to earn ends meet. >> harris: i'm also wondering, you know, bread and other things up between 17 and 25%. when are the prices going to go down for the food that we pay? when are the prices going down and getting cheaper and no one really can answer that on the

left because if they could, they wouldn't be reselling what they have, they would sell that. let's get to this. i do want to figure out what democrats do for their next step. so scott, for you, there are some deadlines approaching for getting somebody else's name on the ballot. just the reality if you had to replace joe biden, is there even enough time to do that with somebody? >> the democrats aren't replacing joe biden. he has a record to run on. despite all the challenges that jason and you have indicated, there is still 406 days before the general election. that's the first thing. second of all, despite the fact the unpopularity. these are the two choices that will probably be on the ballot. given the choice of those candidates republicans will vote for donald trump and the democrats are going to vote for joe biden and the independents will be up for grabs. both sides believe the independents if they break that way or the other way that's how

they win the election. the real indictment is on the political parties. these are the two candidates that they are presenting to the american public as opposed to younger and better candidates if you will and they just haven't done it. whoever wins this race is going to -- >> harris: i don't think you can look at the other side of the aisle and say they haven't put up substantial candidates to challenge who you think will the person during the primary season. i hear what you are saying but your side hasn't gone as far as to put up some candidates who can debate and do that. they have stopped -- >> we're the incumbent. we're working on joe biden. joe biden is beating donald trump. >> he has the lowest numbers in the history of the country. not that you have to put up is that you should put up somebody. >> it's time to work on that. these numbers don't matter over a year out, they just don't. >> it's an embarrassment to the

country that joe biden won't debate a substantive candidate robert f. kennedy, jr. why won't dough they bait him? it is wrong. >> he have is a substantive candidate? that's from the gop, got it. >> harris: i will do that and bring you both back. breaking news. i'm glad we got through as much as we did. gentlemen, thank you very much. a moment we're waiting for. it hasn't happened yet but i want you to know about it. there is a democrat senator in the state of new jersey who had this happen before. he has been indicted. this time it's much more serious with reports of evidence such as nearly half a million dollars in cash in his home. some of it in his clothes with a jacket with his initials on it. a lot of reporting on this so far. the indictment down on friday. gold bars with some of the serial numbers still visible. a lot going on. what will he say to keep his job

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>> harris: breaking news now. expecting new jersey senator bob menendez to hold a news conference. the first time he has spoken publicly since prosecutor indicted him and his wife nadine on federal bribery and conspiracy charges. i want to set the stage here quickly. he says he is not going away. and this is a news conference that he had called, by the way, because he is expected to announce his plans to run for office again in 2024. even if he needs to run outside

the democrat party, that's according to the new jersey globe reporting. he often gives these news conferences at his old school where he grew up, served as mayor hudson county. he wanted to speak at the colin powell elementary school. reports now from the "new york post" that location was even listed for the news conference until the school turned him away saying he might cause distractions. he is not at the colin powell elementary to give you color what's going on in his home state today. calls for his resignation among democrats are getting louder. >> you know, i think the situation is quite unfortunate. i do believe that it is in the best interests for senator menendez to resign. >> do you think he should

resign? >> he should. >> harris: democrat whip dick durbin took a pass on calling for menendez to quit. he says it's up to him -- it's not up to him to decide. >> in terms of resignation, that's a decision to be made by senator menendez and the people of new jersey. keep in mind these are charges and they have to be proven and there is a presumption of innocence. how far it goes in terms of his future service is something to be decided by the senator and the people of new jersey. >> harris: there you go. finally someone says innocent before proven guilty among the democrats. a lot of them are silent today. he says menendez broke washington's rule on corruption and not knowing where to draw the line in accepting gifts. jonathan turley now, senior correspondent chad pergram is live for us on capitol hill. so chad, i do understand that per the rules the way that it works menendez is now no longer

chairman of that big committee on foreign relations. but he has not actually left the committee and he says only relinquishing his chairmanship is temporary. >> there will be more talk about that when senate democrats get together on wednesday afternoon, the first time they'll come together since this indictment was announced on friday. but the calls for menendez to resign is intensifying. he is not getting backup from fellow democrats. they create a problem for the party in a narrowly divided senate. >> these are serious and shocking charges. bribery, corruption. i have never seen anything like this. he stepped down from being chairman of the foreign relations committee. i think senator menendez is going to have to think long and hard about the cloud that will hang over his service in the united states senate. >> democrats already face a challenge clinging the their 51-49 majority in 2024.

it is one thing for democrats to try to hang onto tough seats in montana with john tester or ohio with sherrod brown. this puts the new jersey seat in play. >> these are devastating allegations. no senator should be trading on their position in order to enrich themselves. it is hard for me to believe that senator menendez can be effective in his job given these allegations. >> menendez faced indictment on unrelated charges of trying to help a doctor in florida a few years ago. that case ended in a mistrial. but there is more concrete evidence in this case for voters to understand. >> the gold bars, the visuals on this are terrible for menendez. the senate warm-up jacket stuffed with $1 hundred bills. people see this and it's graphic evidence of corruption.

>> allegations of corruption seem to dog new jersey senate a former senator retired and another one resigned in 1982. bipartisan members would kick williams out of the senate because of his connection to the ab scam scandal. >> harris: you talk about a long history with the senator, 50 years he has been in office. if this isn't an argument for term limits, i don't know what would be. chad pergram, thank you. there are charges that he is facing that are pretty -- i've mentioned the gifts included cash, gold bars and a luxury car. also among the accusations sharing sensitive information with egyptian leaders. so now you have national security and literal foreign

relations going on. and this senator was head of the senate foreign relations committee. a lot of questions now. tom dupree, phil holloway, gentleman, great to have you. tom dupree formerly of the justice department. you see something like this float past your desk and what is your initial reaction? >> my initial reaction is this is breathtaking what we read here in this indictment. this is to me absolutely stunning, the gravity of the alleged corruption, the scope of the alleged corruption. this is 40 pages of straight up old school fraud, bribery, extortion. i am stunned he was able to get away with this scheme for so long. if there is an explanation it escapes me. the picture the u.s. attorney paints in this indictment is

absolutely overwhelming. >> harris: are you stunned? senator bob menendez, federal investigators have targeted again the third time since he entered the senate nearly 20 years ago. his political career in new jersey is long spanning as i mentioned five decades. and it includes more than its fair share of corruption allegations. these all seem to be from the same bucket, phil. is there a connection? what's the statute of limitations? what does this look like? can they scoop the past into the future? >> harris, i think the allegations from the past with the prior indictment, those might be something that the prosecutors try to get into this case but in all likelihood they probably will not be able to. they don't need to. this indictment, as we've said, is absolutely breathtaking and it is so comprehensive. it's what we call a speaking

indictment. it goes further than just laying out the elements of the charge and making the accusation as indictments are required to do. it actually incorporates a lot of the prosecutor's evidence in the actual indictment itself. that's just the tip of the iceberg. you know if they are showing us pictures of cash overflowing from the man's jacket and gold bars and mercedes, if we're seeing all those things in the indictment, at a trial we'll have pictures, we'll have video recordings and audio recordings and electronic communications. we will have all kinds of things that i think will paint a devastating picture of his guilt. his criminal defense lawyer has to be upset today. you don't want your clients to talk on tv and could say something used against them in

court. in the event of a sentencing, a judge gets to take into consideration whether or not someone has accepted responsibility. because he did not resign in june of 2022 when the f.b.i. searched his home and found all this stuff but he stayed in the senate. today he is likely to stay he wants to stay in the senate longer. if i'm a federal judge and hear this type of arrogance out of a defendant after conviction i will hold it against them. >> harris: you are looking at the arrogance factor. i'm looking at the voters of new jersey who chose this man, what role they play. you heard dick durbin saying it is not his personal choice to decide for another senator whether he should resign, but there are democrats on the hill speaking loudly or louder, i should say, about him quitting and stepping away. he is not the only one indicted, though. his wife, nadine, also indicted.

his wife since 2019. nadine is described in the indictment, by the way, as an intermediary between menendez and the three co-indicted businessmen who were friends of hers before her relationship with bob menendez began. she also acted as a conduit according to the indictment between menendez and international government officials, prosecutors are saying that. tom, this situation with egypt, what concerns you the most? >> well, where to start on that one, harris. probably what concerns me the most is this was a man who was entrusted with one of the most powerful positions in the united states government chairing the foreign relations committee in the united states senate. if you believe the allegations in the indictment, which seem credible, at the same time he held this powerful position and was helping develop and implement u.n. foreign relations, he was engaged in in corrupt scheme to pass along secret, confidential information to the egyptian government and

helping them achieve their ends. he was conveying information and data and evidence that they had no business receiving, all to get cash to get gold bars and a luxury cars. it amounts to a classic example of an egregious breach of public trust if what was going on is true. that a man entrusted with this power was not acting in the best interests of the united states but helping a foreign government in order to personally enrich himself. >> harris: it's unbelievable. when you look at what has gone on -- i mentioned term limits -- and we're told now that we are inside of one minute warning to the senator. i may cut away expeditiously here. i see cameras being raised. he wants to announce re-election plans for november of 2024 while under these indictment charges. let's watch. this is bob menendez. >> good morning. thank you to all of you who are here today especially the people from new jersey who joined me as

i address the events. last few days. on friday the southern district of new york brought charges against me. i understand how deeply concerning this can be. however, the allegations leveled against me are just that, allegations. for anyone who has known me throughout my 50 years of public service, they know i have always fought for what is right. my advocacy has always been grounded in what i learned from growing up as the son of cuban refugees, especially my mom, my hero. everything i've accomplished i've worked for despite the naysayers and everyone who has underestimated me. i recognize this will be the biggest fight yet but as i have stated throughout this whole process, i firmly believe that when all the facts are presented, not only will i be exonerated, but i still will be the new jersey senior senator. for now i want to address four

things. first, a cornerstone of the foundation of american democracy and our justice system is the principle that all people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. all people. i ask for nothing more and deserve nothing less. the court of public opinion is no substitute for our revered justice system. we cannot set aside the presumption of innocence for political expediency when the harm is irrevocable. to those who rushed to judgment you have done so based on a limited set of fact framed by the prosecution to be as salacious as possible. prosecutors get it wrong sometimes. sadly, i know that. instead of waiting for all the facts to be presented, others have rushed to judgment because they see a political opportunity

for themselves or those around them. all i humbly ask for in this moment in my colleagues in congress, the elected leaders and advocates of new jersey that i have worked with for years, as well as each person who calls new jersey home, is to pause and allow for all the facts to be presented. second, my long record on egypt. one fact is indisputable. throughout my time in congress i have remained steadfast on the side of civil society and human rights defenders in egypt and everywhere else in the world. if you look at my actions related to egypt during the period described in this indictment and throughout my whole career, my record is clear and consistent in holding egypt accountable for its unjust detention of american citizens and others, its human rights abuses, deepening relationship

with russia and efforts that have eroded the independence of the nation's judiciary among a myriad of concerns. in 2017, i led a bipartisan letter to then president trump expressing grave concern with the worsening situation for human rights in civil society in egypt. that same year i sent a letter to the senate appropriations subcommittee supporting u.s. assistance to egypt as long as egypt adhered to the camp david records and include requirements for assistance reform strategies outlined in the egypt assistance reform act of 2013. in 2018 i urged secretary to focus more on human rights issues in egypt and raise concerns that the electoral environment ahead of their elections at the time was not free, fair, and credible. in 2019, i met with the egypt president and emphasized the

level of repression inside of egypt risking eroding our security cooperation and raising concerns about egypt's attempt to purchase a russian missile system. in 2020, i spoke on the senate floor for international women's today an cited the cases of a human rights lawyer and a human rights activist and reporter who were unjustly detained in egypt for fighting for human rights, democracy and a free press. i have placed holds on foreign military sales funding egypt and in the presence of other united states senators, i have challenged the egyptian president on human rights abuses, arbitrary detention and press freedoms. and the list goes on. throughout my 30 years in the house of representatives and the senate, i have always worked to hold accountable those countries, including egypt, for human rights abuses, re- prigs

of its citizens and civil society and more. those wanting to -- they don't know the facts. for 30 years i have withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash from my personal savings account which i have kept for emergencies and because of the history of my family facing confiscation in cuba. this may seem old-fashioned. but these were monies drawn from my personal savings account based on the income that i have lawfully derived over those 30 years. i look forward to addressing other issues at trial. fourth, i want to speak directly to the people of new jersey. as i started these remarks you are the reason why i have dedicated the entirety of my adult life to improving the lives of hard working people in new jersey and all americans. some of the people calling for my resignation have lost the

trust of the people of new jersey. that couldn't be more wrong. i'm surrounded by everyday people and constituents who know me and here because i fought for the affordable care act, access to reproductive healthcare, funding for community health centers and lowering the companies of prescription drugs. i have fought for working people those who work 5:00 to 9:00 to support those working 9:00 to 5:00 and the right of workers to organize for better wages and working conditions and a strawn re staunch supporter of delivering affordable childcare to better support working families. they're here because the darkest day i never relented in making sure that people in new jersey were made whole and had the resources to rebuild stronger and more resilient than before. they're here because during the worst pandemic in a century i went to bat for small business owners throughout the state to insure she could keep their

doors open and employees on the payroll and here when state and local governments were faced with the hard decision of having to lay off front line responders, police officers and firefighters during the pandemic i delivered billions in federal funding and investments to keep our state, cities and towns and hospitals afloat. they are here because throughout my career and some may not like the positions i've taken i have stood against authoritarian regimes in iran in its desire to achieve nuclear weapons and cuba & wherever in the world where human rights and democracy have been threatened. they are here because i made it my life's work about protecting refugees and immigrants who come to our shore seeking a better future for their children just as my family did. they are here because during the past 30 years, i have fought tooth and nail so new jersey would receive critical

infrastructure funding and fought against the forces that tried to dismantle the gateway project and here because since my earliest days in congress, i have repeatedly stood up to the gun lobby to stop illegal firearms from claiming too many lives and destroying communities. they are here because when tragedy struck one of new jersey's federal judges i made a promise i would not stop until i passed a law to better protect the dedicated public servants in the judiciary. and last year i delivered passing legislation signed into law by the president that will better protect judges and their families. and they are here because i never gave up on delivering justice for 9/11 families especially the widows and children of those killed who were previously and unfairly excluded from the u.s. victims of state-sponsored terrorism. in december working with others i delivered billions of dollars in federal relief to that community and other u.s. victims of terror. they are here beefs when other

members of congress wanted to turn their backs on our veterans and not provide healthcare for our veterans exposed to toxic burn pits i was there and successfully passed legislation to better serve world war ii vets as well as those suffering from gulf war illnesses. for now i remain focused on continuing to do the important work i do every day on behalf of the 9 million people who call new jersey home including doing everything we can this week to avoid a government shutdown. deliver critical funding for states affected by catastrophic natural disasters and insure the people of ukraine to defeat putin. let me say a few words in spanish. [speaking spanish]

>> harris: i want to say in advance. he had said he would translate a few words into spanish. we don't know how much of his statement that he is going to do that with but don't want to miss the democrat senator making his

announcement for re-election. let's quickly go back and see if he is -- no, he is still translating at this point. i want to bring in tom dupree, former assistant attorney general and phil holloway former prosecutor and police officer. as he makes his announcement to run again he won't take any questions. we don't want to miss that but i don't want to miss this. tom, i have to tell you, that was testifying. that is exactly what you said he should not do. he leaned in hard on egypt. those must be some of the toughest charges i would imagine based on all he said he did for egypt. but i have to say this, tom. the indictment alleges that his wife, nadine menendez, received a luxury car, bold bars, helped with the mortgage and consultant fees for facilitating meetings between her husband and egyptian officials. at one point according to the hill reporting and that indictment egyptian officials meeting with menendez were part

of the charges, yes, but also the government alleges that the couple traded influence for bribes. in march of 2020 nadine menendez allegedly texted an edge option officials. any time you need anything you have my number and we'll make everything happen. tom. >> harris, i was surprised that he started trying to give at least a partial explanation where he talked about how he withdrew the cash from his own personal savings account. surprised because you are taking a huge risk when you make public statements like this. you lock in your testimony and creating evidence that could be used against you. second it surprised me because it was a partial rebuttal. he talked about the cash. he didn't say anything about the gold bars, nothing about the mercedes, he didn't say anything about all of those incriminating text messages you mentioned. there is so much left unsaid here and he did not address it in his statement.

>> harris: phil, as you are watching and listening to this. if he starts to safe he is running again in november of 2024 we'll pull back. right now he is translating what all he had said in english according to what he told us he would do. what is your top line thought after watching his first statement and then what you might say is light testimony? >> well, my top line thought is he is an idiot. he doesn't need go out there and make statements about the case for all the reasons tom mentioned but fails to mention the other things that link this cash, for example, to criminality. the dna and fingerprints that they have alleged to have linked to the corrupt businessmen. no reasonable juror will believe that anybody, especially one like a senator has half a million dollars in cash stuffed

in envelopes laying around his house and other places in his home along with all the other things that paint the picture that these are all ill-gotten gains. it is fruits of a corrupt enterprise and he really just cannot explain it away by saying i just took it out of my savings account because of whatever reason that i don't trust banks or whatever he is trying to say. >> harris: yeah, he said it was an emergency reserve. $6 hundred thousand in cash? >> $10,000 is an emergency fund. half a million, including another $1 hundred thousand in gold bars is not an emergency fund. that's a crime. >> harris: i want to bring in gianno caldwell fox news political analyst. i start with the caveat, if we need to go back, if this new jersey democrat senator says he is running again after 50 years in office, we'll go right back

to it. how does this play politically? you know what? this isn't the only time he has been indicted. three times in 20 years. of course he will do what he wants. he probably figures he's done it before, he can get away with talking now. >> exactly right. he has been emboldened. this has created a political disaster for president joe biden and democrats who have been crusaders against donald trump with his indictments and gone on the record multiple times over and over again. we have yet to hear anything from the white house. keep in mind with this particular indictment, it was also reported that menendez went to joe biden asking the u.s. attorney appointed who he believed he could influence to get around these issues. president biden should speak to that. he should speak to that and come out with a strong-worded statement or have a press conference asking him to resign.

that's the right thing to do. i don't think that people are buying what he just tried to sell the american people. right now no one is biting >> harris: it made me cringe that the president might have to defend it. i don't know how well it will go for the president. >> especially in his -- yes. >> harris: he struggled as of late. i don't say that lightly. it is just misery to see a president not be able to get up there and do what he needs to do no matter what your politics. i will say about this particular thing. i started off the hour, if this is not an argument for term limits, if a guy can come up three times with these types of charges and then they continue to get worse and more serious over time, this is like the poster child right now what we are watching. he won't step away permanently but he says i won't be chairman of the senate foreign relations committee right now. i won't be that but that's only

temporary, so on and so forth. we talk the height of political privilege here. >> absolutely. then the idea that well maybe if democrats want to push me out of the way i'll run as something else, independent, republican. that won't fly. people are fed up with corruption. we see it with the polling with joe biden how many americans believe he is corrupt. they have created a stain on their party if they do not speak out loudly and vocally to get out of office. if they don't do that they're in more serious trouble than what we've seen in the polling this past year. >> harris: you know through voters' voices on this hour of television, i really like to hear from the people and know what they are thinking. i live in new jersey so since friday every place i went in is what people were talking about, and nfl football, of course. what they are saying about him is but they knew but they knew but they knew but he kept promising all these things and

voters vote for him anyway. we see that all over the country. your former home city of the chicago, as bad as it in with crime they put in a liberal mayor who will court that soft on crime policy. we've seen it. >> that's right. mayor brandon johnson crime is up almost 30% since he has taken office. you know what's interesting, harris, tomorrow i will be testifying before congress at a hearing in downtown chicago and i am all set and ready to go. i get a call on friday saying the democrats have pulled out. especially since my name was published. >> harris: they won't be at the hearing? >> they will not be there. you would think that they would want to be there. they have been screaming black lives matter. in the city of chicago just this past year 80% of the people murdered were black. so how dare you not show up for the people you claim to care about? is it only the black votes you care about? they should be ashamed of

themselves. i tell you jerry nadler is the ranking member on judiciary. i tried to speak to him last year. it's on foxnews.com. i said i want to have a conversation with you about violent crime. what are your solutions? i talk to democrats and republicans. democrats didn't want to speak to me. it is really discouraging, i think, for african-americans who support the democratic party. they've lost a tremendous amount of support among black people but it is disheartening to see these guys turn their back on the folks they claim to care about the most. it is unacceptable and i'm really upset about it, i have to be honest. >> harris: i know the loss of your brother in recent times in the last year, christian, god bless him, your little brother. i know how personal this is for you. but you are also talking in a big umbrella fashion about democrats not coming to a hearing as crime is cracking in

some democrat-led cities across this nation. and it's breaking the citizenship. when you talk about pushing back, you need elected officials that will come to the table and hear, listen, and speak to the future in making things better. that's what this day is about with senator bob menendez. if anybody thought this was going to be about anything other than him and him defending himself, the lawyers i have had on this hour said that wouldn't be a good idea. don't put out sealed testimony at a news conference. they felt like he did that anyway. i want to check in with my team. is he still translating from english everything he said? now he is leaving. no questions. i will ask my executive producer. did he say in spanish he would run again? we'll double-check that. what we were told this was supposed to be -- gianno stay

with me for that. i will bring in jason chaffetz, along with scott bolden democratic party chair. we'll stay with the politics of this for a moment. senator bob menendez is facing very serious charges and the receipts that prosecutors say that they have include gold bars, more than half a million dollars in cash that were found around their home. he and his wife. she is indicted, too. some stuffed into clothes including a jacket with his name across it. and some kind of dealings with egyptian officials inside that country and that in the indictment his wife brought those meetings to bear between her husband, a sitting senator, and chairman of the senate foreign relations committee and those egyptian officials.

it is glaringly obvious that he is some hot water at this point. what we were told is that this would just simply be a statement about him wanting to run again. he isn't going anywhere. im this turned out to be him trying to defend some of that like light testimony. maybe heavy at times. gianno, i come back to you to talk about the politics of the moment. those voters in new jersey. what are they getting today out of their senior senator? >> well, what they are getting is what they've seen in the past. another indictment to the senator. i think voters have to ask themselves a question. if you've been indicted three times on corruption and there seemingly was some evidence of that. we see in the gold bars, the money, i mean, you have to wonder is this guy corrupt? i would think after three times for this kind of indictment that something must be going on here. the fact that he continues to

get himself in this hot water time and time again shows that he has been truly emboldened. he believes he can't be caught. not only that you have a democratic party who is in control of the white house and in control of the justice department. maybe he thought he had some protection there. as i mentioned previously he went to joe biden and said hey, i want to have this particular person assigned as the district -- not the district attorney but the federal prosecutor in my home state. the u.s. attorney, thank you so much. the u.s. attorney because he believed he could influence this individual. who knows what else may be in his closet that we just don't know about? >> harris: the reporting on that in new jersey over the weekend in that particular u.s. attorney is something that everybody should read. i will put it up in my social feeds today so people can see if what you are calling for the president of the united states, whether or not he needs to come out today and address that forth

with. were those conversations happening and did he help that situation? did he have knowledge? i think you may be right about that. meanwhile, here he is, bob menendez talking about the money that was found in places in the home that he and his wife nadine own. remember, she is indicted, too. let's watch. >> this may seem old-fashioned but these were monies drawn from my personal savings account based on the income i have lawfully derived over those 30 years. >> harris: jason chaffetz. come in and join gianno and me and phil holloway as well. jason, is it old-fashioned to keep half a million dollars in your clothes? >> yeah, that is a little suspicious. it is striking he would do that because it is so easy to demonstrate whether that happened or not. >> harris: they have pictures of it. >> they have pictures of it but all sorts of banking records and

what not. at $174,000 annual income that he has had for a long period of time, i don't know that you can get from here to there simply by those numbers. it's also striking is after the last indictment they went through the trial and it was a hung jury. but the senate ethics committee, bipartisan, equal numbers of democrats and republicans, they severely admonished the senator and said that he needed to provide restitution by providing the money back, and reimbursing for those expenses that he had taken, private airplane rides and these types of things. so what did the senator do there? it's a sad state of the united states senate by the fact that you have a severely admonished senator and they allow him to be the chairman of the foreign relations committee. how does chuck schumer do that?

how does he do that? and so i think it is also striking that we're supposed to get a re-election announcement and he didn't make that. >> harris: look, he needed to testify. i want to bring in just very quickly phil hollway. what is he facing in terms of prison or anything? we only have a few seconds here. >> you read my mind. about 45 years maximum. if he goes to trial and he is convicted after a jury trial, the judge will take in all of this, you know, hubris is what i would call it and his lack of acceptance of responsibility. he may very well never breathe free air again in the event he is convicted by a jury and has to face sentencing by a federal charge. these charges carry major time and the sentencing guidelines -- >> harris: thank you to all my guests this hour. our coverage continues on "outnumbered" right after the break.

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