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coming up in moments. three hours from now president biden becomes the first u.s. president to join the workers on the picket line in michigan. he will appear alongside the striking auto workers outside of detroit. their strike against the big three automakers approaching week two. see what the president has to say about that. the head of the d.e.a. is about to address families impacted by fentanyl. devastating epidemic had direct ties to the chaos we've been watching at the u.s. border. i'm bill hemmer live in new york. dana is in semi valley. a big welcome back to smitty. good morning. >> sandra: we'll all be watching tomorrow night. great to start the day. i'm sandra smith and this is "america's newsroom." eagle pass, texas, the town recently saw more than 2,000 migrants in 24 hours. president biden's border patrol

chief says the surge forced him to divert resources. cartels are exploiting that to get more drugs over the border. >> bill: got a picture getting a lot of attention today. a group of migrants attempting to claim a small island in the rio grande near eagle pass. put up a columbian flag and texas dps quickly took it down. >> sandra: reaction from former ice agent and bill melugin is at the reagan library with more on how the issue will affect tomorrow night's big debate. let's get to griff jenkins with the news in eagle pass. >> good morning. things continue, a stream of migrants coming through a very muddy eagle pass this morning. it rained heavily last night. that's not stopping them, neither is the razor wire. they are coming in unprecedented numbers. i'm here with a texas border

patrol. there was a flag planted on the island. why did you take it down and what happened? >> it's disrespectful to the state of texas and the country when you have illegal immigrants crossing unlawfully between ports of entry and those claiming they're leaving their country out of fear but proudly display their flag and planted their flag on texas soil is an insult to our state. federal government may welcome that. the state of texas will not stand for it and we immediately took down the flag. >> we learned yesterday from cbp officials because of the border patrol agents having to proper migrants. there are more 60 miles in eagle pass unpat rolled. a cartel's dream to have that much open border. texas dps is taking action. >> that has been a challenge and issue when you have vulnerable gaps along the border not being

pat rolled. when you have a large influx in eagle pass, more border patrol agents are taken off the line and pulled from the river where they can't focus on criminal activity. it exploits the gaps more now where mexican drug cartels and criminal smuggling organizations exploit that. we will place additional state troopers in the area working private ranchs and focusing on the areas along the river where we see threats to public safety and national security. >> we can show some video that fox news exclusively got from our sources south of the border of migrants on a train, more, hundreds more we're told we should see those migrants soon. migrants walking up past us behind us now. how concerned are you about the continuing trains coming and the influx of this pipeline >> very concerned. when the federal government

encourages mass illegal immigration this is what we say. as a state we face challenges. we try to focus on the criminal element why u.s. border patrol agents are tied up processing the constant flow of illegal immigration. >> lieutenant giving you guys the insight. bill melugin tweeted out elon musk says he is coming to see the migrant crisis here in eagle pass. if he shows up we'll bring it to you when it happens. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: a moment ago victor avila retired ice agent running for congress in texas. good morning and thank you for your time. want to show you the president's schedule and ask you a question here. today he goes to michigan, wayne county, mentioned that a moment ago. wednesday in san francisco. then thursday in phoenix, arizona. we don't know if he goes to the border. however, this is written up in the arizona central. will joe biden continue to ignore the mexico border when he visits arizona? the border is in chaos as biden

arrives in arizona. he may want to ignore that but hard to argue his policies are working. how often is the question about whether or not the president cares about the border? how often does that come up? >> it comes up all the time, bill. as a matter of fact i was on with you a year ago this week and it almost seems eerie that we're talking about the same constant problem and actually has gotten worse. you mentioned all these cities where the president is going. i go around the country myself speaking to the police departments, police chiefs, and it is affecting everyone. in tulsa, oklahoma, alabama. it is no longer just the border states overwhelmed as much as we are in texas. but really, they are concerned with the methamphetamine, the fentanyl and the other crime associated. a lot of property crime, theft that they are having to deal with, on top of the crime surge that we're already dealing with in this country. >> sandra: we're looking at live

images from the fox flight team. day after day of this now. it is men, women, children, and it's a constant flow. the numbers keep getting bigger. what do you believe eventually would give within an administration who seems to have so far ignored this crisis? >> they have ignored it. i just got back from eagle pass and el paso, texas. it is as bad as the images as you see. in el paso the facility there holds 2400 migrants. it is over 5,000. they are releasing 1,000 migrants a day to the streets. they are staying in the historic downtown plaza, my hometown in el paso, texas. they have nowhere to put them. the city of el paso is trying to buy an abandoned school to put them in there. ngos ran out of space. hhs ran out of space. they have nowhere to put them and they are being released to the streets. ignoring the problem is not going to go away. that's why i run for congress to

finally change this. >> bill: sir, this is the border patrol chief jason owens on abc on sunday. listen to how he describes what is happening with the cartels. >> it's a money making opportunity for those smugglers and a distraction for them to cross other things into the country like narcotics, fentanyl. cash, weapons. people of interest, hardened criminals, gang members. convicted sexual predators. >> bill: did you hear all that? if you are admitting that and you know that, why as a country are we not changing our focus there? >> it doesn't make any sense to me. the chief is 100% correct. i just spent time with the families of the lost voices of fentanyl in washington, d.c. where they have lost their loved ones to a deadly fentanyl poisoning. these families are democrats, republicans, all types.

the fentanyl poisoning doesn't care your political views. this administration has really needs to focus on this. the real epidemic we're facing with the deaths not just with fentanyl but the order itself. we lost three people in drownings in eagle pass, texas. it is something that needs to -- we have to force this administration to pay attention and get them down there. >> sandra: victor avila on all of that. thank you. >> bill: want to repeat this. what he said there was narcotics, fentanyl. bulk cash, hardened criminals, gang members, convicted sexual predators. is there a country in the world it allows it to continue? the drone shot. we watch this every morning, folks. every morning it's the same. the sun comes up and they start crossing people across that river and putting them in the buses and off they go to be processed. >> sandra: off they go to other

areas of the countries, blue cities and states who said they would welcome all these migrants who are now saying they can't handle a single person more. >> bill: that's the border beat as of 9:09:00 a.m. east coast time. >> sandra: worsening situation at the border is expected to be a hot topic at the republican primary debate tomorrow night after the rnc tightened its standards from the first showdown demanding candidates hit a 50,000 donor threshold and garner 3% if polling. up from 1% from the last debate. bill melugin is live at the presidential library. what do we know so far? >> good morning to you. because of those tighter standards, asa hutchinson did not qualify for the second debate. seven gop candidates on stage

tomorrow night instead of eight. it is set by the gop and announced it yesterday. north dakota governor doug burgum. chris christie, ron desantis, nikki haley, mike pence, vivek ramaswamy and tim scott. florida governor ron desantis is making the border a big key point of his campaign as illegal crossings surge to record highs. willing to go to drastic lengths to secure the border including using lethal force against cartels and drug smugglers. expanded on that idea in an interview with abc news lindsey davis. listen. >> we won't let our country get overrun with fentanyl. tens of thousands of fentanyl deaths every year now. it is all coming from across the border. >> ramaswamy says because the

u.s. is helping secure ukraine on day number one he would send the u.s. military to secure our southern border and he says he would do it with or without congressional approval. take a listen. >> we can use military to secure somebody else's border we can use our own military to secure our own border. >> meanwhile former president donald trump skipping this second debate as well. he is now facing multiple indictments in several different jurisdictions and highlighted that in a speech in south carolina yesterday. that's where he said democrats are targeting him with political prosecutions trying to keep him from being the gop nominee. listen. >> every time we get a good poll we get indicted. this is high level election interference and it is happening for a single reason, i'm the only candidate they do not want to run against.

>> trump addressed the fact he is skipping these debates and equated them to essentially being job interviews as he described them and said so far, quote, i am not too interested. sandra. back to you. >> sandra: bill melugin, thank you. >> bill: dana will join us live next hour and reveal the debate stage for the very first time. we do believe the sun might be up for that, too. stand by. there is this now from the white house on monday. >> i get the polling that you are laying out. i get that but we can't -- we can't be focused on that. >> bill: those lackluster poll numbers are raising eyebrows and raising the specter of a third party challenger. how that could change the game for a second term. >> sandra: the pentagon relying on drones to deter china. why that plan is facing a major hiccup. mike gallagher is here to

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that he would do is make americans' lives better and give them breathing room. >> sandra: president biden's hit in the polls doesn't matter to the white house according to karine jean-pierre. slipping four points in three months tying him with trump in a potential 2024 match-up. his campaign team quietly fearing reportedly the potential of a third party candidate putting even more of a dent in his standing. jim mass in -- do you believe this to be a real threat to joe biden's campaign? >> i believe it's a real threat to both parties. when you are running a presidential campaign what you want to do is control what you can control. third parties throw a wrench into the match into a way that will make both parties very nervous coming into the election.

you don't know who the candidates will be and who they will take votes away from. >> sandra: hillary clinton has experience with this. biden met with hillary clinton apparently in a private pull aside. nbc news, at the white house when she visited this month. she pressed him to take the third party threat seriously and come up with a way to compensate for it saying this is the nbc news report on her warning. pressed him to take the third party threat seriously. can you add anything to that? have you heard anything about that, jim? >> look, i did a political deck for our clients recently. they talked about this threat. they talked about why we should be concerned about it and why both parties should be concerned about it and why it's a problem. ross perot got 19% and 13% of the votes in 92 and 96 and 0 electoral votes.

voting for the parties throws away votes. in florida ralph nader gave the presidency to george bush. a vote for third parties is a vote for donald trump, i hope they know. >> sandra: democrats are talking about replacing joe biden. a recent headline. forget fantasies about replacing biden. kamala harris can't beat trump saying you can see why i'm not feeling good about the future when the fate of the world defends on the vigor of an octogenarian who looks his age. do you think there are plans to replace joe biden? >> 0, absolutely not. you know this because there is no significant primary for the president. no real democrat has filed against him. he beat donald trump once and he will do it again. these reports are just d.c.

speculation fueled by people who would love to be the candidate if joe biden weren't to run. he is running and the democrats' best shot in 2024. >> sandra: a "new york times" piece detailing robert f. kennedy, jr. talking about the libertarian party. a voter asked about his plans. he is keeping his options open. apparently this meeting happened back in july with the chair of the libertarian party both attending a conference in memphis. this wasn't previously reported. it is now. what about that? a flirt with the libertarian party. your response. >> have at it. take it. who cares? you have the same positions as ramaswamy, crazy positions on things like vaccinations and healthcare and conspiracy theories. he would be a great libertarian candidate if that's what he wants to do. just get out of my party. >> sandra: interesting. still garnering a lot of attention. great to have you on this

morning. thank you. >> thank you. >> bill: a blue collar battle is brewing on the campaign trail. president biden joins the union picket line today in detroit. donald trump will rally union workers tomorrow. a live report on the two frontrunners. the united states may open a space hotline with beijing as it tries to manage the new space race ongoing. congressman mike gallagher has a warning for his fellow republicans coming up. rsv is out there.

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during this strike, he doesn't have anything nice to say about them. >> president biden: i think uaw gave up an incredible amount when the industry was going under. pensions on. and they saved the automobile industry. yes, i always support the uaw. >> ford and the uaw will be the ones to solve it at the bargaining table. general motors is saying the president is not part of this. our focus is not on politics but continues to be on bargaining in good faith with uaw leadership to reach and agreement as quickly as possible to allow gm to succeed and thrive in the futures. the white house isn't able to say which of the demands they support. 40% raise, shorter work week? we don't know. they are keeping their support vague for the moment.

>> standing with the workers. we are are not involved in negotiations. that's something for them to decide. what is going to work for the parties that are involved. but he is standing with the auto workers. that's what the president is doing. >> president biden calls himself the most pro union president in american history. it is unclear what the unions actually get from that during this strike other than a presidential visit to the picket line. sandra. >> sandra: peter doocy on that for us. >> bill: the u.s. eyeing a space hotline with china. never seen this before. this in an effort to avoid potential crises as the rivalry to become dominant in space intensifies. mike gallagher argues the u.s. is entering a new cold war with china. he says republican candidates must take a stronger stance against the ccp. mike gallagher is with me now, the republican out of wisconsin. nice to see you, thank you for

being here. first on the hotline established by way of tokyo. what is changing in space that would make this necessary, sir? >> well, i think the concern is that it is two-fold. one, we might surrender our advantage in commercial space. we have a historic advantage right now. given the level of investment by the chinese communist party they're set to overtake us in commercial space within the next two years if we continue to have a lazy approach to this. without established rules in space you can see the weaponization of it. we assume they would seek to -- in theory there is nothing wrong with setting up a crisis communication hotline. we have tried to do it on the conventional military side. the problem is the chinese have refused. they refused when the trump

administration asked and refusing when the biden administration asked. who will pick up the phone when we call the ccp? >> bill: do you think china has changed their mind on that or not? >> we have had four cabinet level secretaries from biden administration go to beijing to beg them to establish such a hotline. they haven't budged. they've committed to certain working groups. we have well established history where the chinese use the working group idea to convince us to delay defensive action. that's the risk. the risk isn't talking per se it is stopping any defensive action we need to take in order just to sit down at the table and talk. i fear this renewed engagement push has really undermined the urgency that we need to start defending ourselves from growing economic, cyber, and military aggression from the chinese communist party. >> bill: maybe this comes up tomorrow night at the second debate in simi valley. you are encouraging republicans the talk about the ccp in

beijing in which way? >> i think the most important thing to do, particularly given at the reagan library, is to channel reagan and talk about the scale of the threat. the nature of the threat we face in terms of this marxist len-inist regime trying to undermine american global leadership. to communicate to the american people this isn't just an obscure threat. it is a threat to american sovereignty and argue to communicate to the american people a sense of optimism. a sense that we're the good guys and deserve to win the new cold war. >> bill: i started out by talking about this drone war as well. i want to get your comment on this. because russia was well behind ukraine when the war broke out. russia caught up. i don't know how they did it. maybe they are using parts and suppliers from other countries around the world in all likelihood. the pentagon is trying to

develop thousands of them and do it quickly and there are problems out there. boeing is blaming a few people. supply chain issues. tell us why this issue could be so important to our own national security. >> because in order to defend taiwan, we're going to need many more autonomous systems like drones. however, the problem is what the crisis in ukraine has revealed is our munitions industrial base is very weak and incredible and we have yet to rebuild it. at the end of this week, $11 billion in previously appropriated defense funds will expire. that's money that we could use to build drones like this and better yet rather than a fancy new program with a new acronym like the replicating program, we can replicate existing systems that have already been proven, provided we have the sustained,

predictable, multi-year funding. because of the budget dysfunction and lack of engagement from the secretary of defense himself we're at risk of squint erg a phenomenal opportunity to rebuild our munitions industrial base. >> bill: you know how quickly technology is changing. a.i. is moving at light speed. if we don't move with it china, russia and others will fly right by. thank you for your commentary today. we'll speak again soon. thanks. >> dana: chatgpt is coming to life. it can see, hear and speak. is that a blessing or a curse? we'll ask charlie shimkus and brian brenberg. they're here on that. plus this. >> i admire your luck, mr. bond. >> james bond. >> sandra: imagine that not being his name, james bond. he might be one of the most iconic movie characters of all

time but he almost had a wildly different first name. can you guess it, bill hemmer? >> bill: maybe william. ♪

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>> bill: there is major news this morning on the future for your computer. a.i. experts sounding the alarm saying that technology could upend society by manipulating social media a lot more. douglas kennedy, what did you find? >> a.i. is all about deception. some say soon it will be impossible to tell the true from the false. this is a completely fake online profile that you created using artificial intelligence. >> you can see the a.i. is now generating a week's worth of social media posts and a couple of pictures to make this person appear to be a real person when they are actually an a.i. machine. >> he is an a.i. researcher at the rand corporation which is now sounding the alarm with this report of a.i.'s potential to destabilize open societies like the united states through social

media manipulation. >> what is scary is with this technology you have tens of thousands, millions of fake problems that look like americans but all puppets on a string controlled by a foreign adversary injecting whatever they want into our conversations. >> rand isn't alone fearing that disinformation future with a.i. >> as this technology advances we understand people are anxious how it could change the way we live. >> that's the ceo of chatgpt. the company now considered the world leader in a.i. innovation. he appeared in front of congress earlier this year along with nyu professor gary markus. >> fundamentally the new systems will be destabilizing. they can and will create persuasive lies at a scale humanity hasn't seen before. >> russia and iran are trying to do that and identified this man in china. this is chang, an agent for the

chinese military. >> we profile him to be a prominent ai scientist and for years working how to weaponize a.i. for just this kind of threat. >> he says the u.s. must act now to counter the threat, including creating a military unit to protect the integrity of social media. we must, he says, prepare allies like tay juan to identify the coming onslaught of a.i. election interference. also on the table for many is regulating social media companies for their a.i. content. >> this is a credible and urgent threat. we recommend there be some kind of u.s. government public/private collaboration to address it. we have to do something. >> do something quickly, he says, before the technology becomes uncontrollable. back to you, bill and sandra. >> bill: douglas, nice to see you. thank you, intriguing stuff.

douglas kennedy on that. >> sandra: we're chatting about it on set. chatgpt can see, hear and speak. it allows users to have voice conversations with the app and it sounds like a real human is talking to you. listen. >> we want to hear a bedtime story. tell us a story about the super duper sunflower hedge hog named larry. tell us about him. >> sandra: brian and carley join us now. >> we're a long way from alexis. i don't think you should let anything replace your bedtime story. that's an important piece of connection. these things are sounding more and more realistic. i think that's dangerous because it is easier and easier to believe that what chatgpt is saying to you is wise. that you should do what it is saying to you. it encourages you to step away from your own judgment and that's where i think we get into trouble.

if you ask it for relationship advice and says something and you say i'm going to do that. it is just the internet being read to you. use your own human wisdom and judgment. >> bill: check out joanna turn's piece in the "wall street journal." carley, you saw it. what did you take away? >> joann's takeaway it is both creepy and cool. that sums it up. the sunflower hedge hog story is adorable. no spikes on flowers. petals instead of spikes and what chatgpt can do. i fall under the camp it could do more harm than good but we can't stop developing a.i. because china certainly isn't. we're already in the race. interestingly enough not a lot of people use chatgpt. pugh research that says only 14% of adults has even tried it. that was a poll in may. maybe it has over the course of

a few months. i think a lot of adults, kids might use it more than adults. >> sandra: gavin newsom asked chatgpt to write a speech. he said it wrote a better state of the union than we did. we use it all time and allows us to see around angles we may have missed. there are benefits to it. colleges and universities are having to counter program it to catch it when people use it to write. >> it is supposed to be a tool but the problem is you have to train the user to use the tool well and in colleges, high schools, the tool is getting in the way of the user. the user is never learning how to just that judgment and how to make decisions this is clearly wrong and this might be interesting. if you don't learn that and how to use the tool, the tool uses you and i think that's where we get into trouble. >> bill: i think in the end

there will be pluses and minuses and have to work through it and see what we discover. go to a different topic. on saturday night with the congressional black caucus a big event was held in the evening saturday night and here is what president biden had to say about one of the people that he was honoring. it's well-known american celebrity ll cool j and this happened. >> two of the great artists of our time representing the legacy of hip-hop in america, llj cool j. by the way, that boy has -- that man has biceps bigger than my thighs. >> i think you can boot the name. i think when you use boy, i think it treads in an area a lot of people raised concern. you remember charlamagne tha god who did the interview with the president when he was a nominee.

he said if you don't vote for me you're not black enough. he said this. >> go to the 46th president of the united states of america, joe biden. a lot of people are upset that he referred to ll cool j as a boy. you know joe biden corrected himself? he is 137 years old. it doesn't matter how many black people you have in your a administration if it's not authentic it would come off as authentic to anyone. >> so joe biden i think what happened here he got ll cool jay's name wrong and covered a joke and made things worse for himself. charlamagne tha god was one of the people vocally critical of president biden. if you don't know if you will vote for me or trump you ain't black.

charlamagne tha god said you don't own the black vote and that comment is inappropriate a. president biden apologized. he entered the united states senate 51 years ago. getting ll cool j's name wrong and saying boy. >> it was an authenticity problem but i think it's a range problem. the president can't go out and do things off the cuff. it will go badly. we've seen that. his handlers or put himself in a situation where he did that and he flubbed it badly. the name flub wasn't a big deal. he got a laugh. it was fine. the follow up as is so often the case with him was the disaster and he will keep doing that because that's what he does and that's where he is right now. >> bill: both of you, thank you. get back to your computers. >> we are still using folders.

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burrows showed guts last night. 19-16 the final and the dance in the end zone after the second interception. the bengals saved their season and life and hope in the river city. i had nothing to do with it but i did stay up last night. >> sandra: congratulations. meanwhile california governor newsom finds -- allowing the state to fine school districts that ban textbooks about racial or lgbtq topics. jonathan hunt is live with more in los angeles. >> what gavin newsom is doing is banning book bans and promising fines for schools that defy him. a lengthy legal and political fight. newsom referenced recent protests over lgbtq material in books that prompted bans from

california to florida and said he felt duty bound to take a stand saying in a statement, quote, fringe ideologues across the country are attempting to ban books from school and whitewash history. with this new law we cement california's role as the true freedom state. the place where families not political fan at particulars have the freedom to decide what's right for them. california school districts will be more scrutinized by politicians in sacramento whether they believe a school has enough inclusive and diverse perspectives. california already mandates lessons on lgbtq plus histories and finds the school districts where one school banned the book of a murder of a man. that fine would have been around $1 1/2 million. the california action sets up an

inevitable clash when newsom and florida governor desantis meet to debate this and many other issues in what some will see as a shadow presidential debate. that debate, of course, will be on fox moderated by sean hannity november 30th. >> sandra: we'll all be watching. thank you. >> bill: as we move to a new hour now thank you border crisis fueling the fentanyl crisis. a summit is bringing together families who experienced loss due to fentanyl poisoning. this is a live look now southern border screen right where the drug cartels flooding america with poison and more states warn the border crisis is a direct tie to increasing opioid deaths. brand-new hour begins now, 10:00 in new york. 6:00 a.m. in california, no it's 7:00 a.m. in simi valley. dana perino joins us from california. >> sandra: we know she is awake,