was watching something from the bronx instead of washington, frankly. that stuff doesn't do it for me. i don't think -- if you have really strong evidence i don't think it's ever wise to act like you need shock value. you have to let the evidencing and to throw things in about it in a way that people find startling is not going to make them pay attention unless you've got the goods. and if you have the goods, you don't have to engage in that kind of stuff. so you know, look, i'm like an old guy. i don't think congress -- people in congress ought to talk like that, but what do i know. maybe it grabs people but it does not grab me. >> john: andy, stand by with us. we'll be back into the hearing. in the meantime, bring in virginia governor glenn youngkin, who was scheduled previous to this hearing, but is joining us now. you are my governor, when you are going to get rid of the

horrible car tax thing but that would be motivated self-interest. so instead, let me ask you, you've been watching this hearing, do you believe that an impeachment inquiry at this point is legitimate? >> it's the congressional job of oversight and investigation and they should continue to investigate and they got to follow the facts and my strong advice is following the money. the money will tell you where the end treasure pot is. and this is at the front end of i think a fact finding mission that congress should be doing and they need to be doing this job and they should just continue to follow those facts. >> sandra: governor, sandra here in new york. thanks so much for joining us. >> hey, sandra, great to be with you. >> sandra: can i get you to play in broadly what we have seen with the impeachment inquiry? >> broadly speaking, i'll repeat a little of what i just commented on, which is the congressional role of oversight is so important and i think that

what we have seen here out of this important committee work has been an uncovering of facts and they need to continue to do that. follow the money. money will always lead you to the end result and in this case it is all about money, and i do believe that there will continue to be more revelations about what has transpired between particularly hunter biden and foreign folks and you can't hide it. bank accounts, receipts, and wire transfer receipts. >> john: some issues in virginia factored into the debate last night, and one of those is the requirement for parental notification, if a child tells his or her school that they want to change their gender identity, that came up last night at the debate, listen to what the candidates said. >> would you try to pass a federal law that says parents should have that right? >> we are going to require states absolutely have to follow that through. >> i think this is a state

issue. >> you had to have a permission slip from your parents to get a tylenol but you could get a gender transition plan without notifying your parents. i weighed in with a foundation. that's not bad policy, that's crazy. >> john: policy, require school boards or schools to notify parents, fairfax, loudoun county, virginia beach schools said governor, we are going to do what we want to do. my standing at the state level you have little very source. in virginia beach, a group of parents has launched a lawsuit. i'm wondering, will the state join the lawsuit? >> let me begin, john. the fact the county don't have a choice. our law is really clear that in fact i issued the model policies and they have to, they have to adopt policies that are either our model policies or consistent

with them and our attorney general came out with a very clear opinion, it is the law, they must follow it. and so it's not surprising there has been a lawsuit filed. i'm very proud of the parents standing up for their children's rights and their rights as parents. there is not a choice to be made by these counties and now they are being clearly brought out in legal jeopardy and liability. liable personally and as boards, and this will play itself out in the court system but again, there is no decision to be made here. our law is crystal clear. counties have to adopt policies either consistent with the model policy that i have presented or other model policies and let's just be clear. no reason why parents shouldn't be told. in fact, they must be told. these are children that belong to families, not to the state, not to the schools, not to bureaucrats, and certainly not to the teachers' unions. they belong to parents and

parents must be notified and not only that decision should not be made for that child without parents being deeply engaged and of course approving of those decisions, and i thought the comment last night was spot on. you can't get a tylenol or aspirin in a school without parental permission. how in the world can you begin to talk about a child about questioning their own gender without parents being deeply engaged. this is a common sense moment. there is not a lot of controversy. parents in virginia have a right to make these decisions and i will continue to protect them. >> sandra: an issue that you have championed and last night, there was an issue front and center, the economy. while the current president seems to be denying the economic reality for so many americans, obviously you've been able to do a lot there in your state, but when you look at what is happening, what is playing out across the country, and the areas in which this president is focusing, what sort of political implications do you believe there is to that, for democrats

who are really pressing on issues that are not top for most american voters right now, what's the political impact of that? >> as you know, we are in the middle of what i believe are the most important elections in the nation in 2023. our legislative midterms, our entire house is up, entire senate is up, and i'm campaigning all over the commonwealth and the single most freak -- frequent topic are jobs and inflation. 60% of americans are living paycheck to paycheck and see today the typical family has to spend $700 more every month just to cover the basics, in gas and groceries and clothes for the kids. this is real, and it's a gut punch and every time they go to the grocery store and see how much they are having to pay for their bare essentials. this is real and i think it's one of the strongest areas for republicans because we have done

a good job managing the economy in virginia and in red states and in fact, all of the economic growth in the nation is happening in red states. in virginia, we have seen 225,000 people working today that weren't working when i started in january in 2022. we have the largest workforce in virginia's history today. and we just ran a huge surplus after a $4 billion tax relief package the year before. and so conservative common sense, economic policies work, and yet they are not working for our nation because president biden doesn't believe in them. his own democrat economists have told him that if you have reckless spending you are going to unleash inflation, that's exactly what happened. when you in fact completely evacuate our great energy policy that we have had with energy independence, and we become dependent on the world, we see that he's only doing one thing, and that's driving us into the

chinese strength and we have heard a lot of talk about this. but let's just repeat it. that when we have a laser focus on electric vehicles and green agenda, it takes away america's energy independence and drives us into the chinese trap. they have dominated the e.v. supply chain and the more we do to drive america and virginia into this electric vehicle mandate, the worse we are going to be off. this is a chance for us to step back and see clearly that common sense conservative economic policy wins and the progressive left hope of trying to mandate various winners and losers and being so engaged in the national economy loses. and it's been red states, states with republican governors that have demonstrated this so clearly. virginia has been a real case study because of course it was controlled by the democrats up

until two years ago, and virginia was really languishing. when i came in, bottom third of job growth, and in 21 short months we have moved up during that time period to third in the nation in job growth. this is the kind of result when you focus on the common sense stuff that keeps businesses moving, keeps people employed, gets people off the sidelines as opposed to paying them not to work. these are the topics at the ballot box this fall. i'm very excited taking our entire house and senate to the voters because i think we have delivered real results. propses made when they were campaigning, promises kept during our administration and i think that's what voters want. they want a government that works for 'em. >> john: governor a lot to unpack there, including the off year elections coming up in the commonwealth in november. you have promised that if you win the senate, in addition to the house, that you will rescind

the electric vehicle mandate in the state of virginia implemented in 2021. job growth, your stewardship, looking over the state, a lot of people are looking for an alternative to president trump. we are looking at the current republican field not seeing what they want and the draft youngkin movement is gaining steam. in october a red vest retreat wants to seek to draft you to be the dark horse candidate who comes in at the last moment to try to take over. you have to move fast. nevada has a deadline of october 16th to register for their primary. are you thinking of doing this? >> well, john, i've been very focused and continue to be focused on our virginia elections. >> john: i understand that. >> our elections are november 7th and the red vest retreat, our second one, i'm excited about people coming to virginia and supporting what we are doing. of course what's happened over the course of the last month is

the liberal left in virginia has woken up and they recognize that a state that they controlled just 24 months ago is going to move completely away from that. >> john: would you rule this out? jumping into the race. >> i've told you, totally focused on virginia elections and that's what we are going to get done. that's what we are going to get done. what happened recently was joe biden came to virginia two weeks ago and he said that one of his top priorities were the election, the legislative elections in virginia, he put a million and a half dollars in against our candidates. we got to battle against this and i'm hoping our retreat in october will provide good resources for us to combat, the flood of resources coming into virginia to hold the state which the liberal left knows they are losing. it's a chance for us, john, to demonstrate, when we have a state that has lost, it does not mean we can't recover it and in 24 months, remember, we had clean democrat leadership across

the general assembly on our house and our senate and the governor's office, lieutenant governor, both the senates are democrats and virginia woke up in 2021 and said no, we are not going to allow the bureaucrats to raise our kids, not demean police, not raise taxes, we are going to cut them and stand up for the liberties we enjoy. the whole state has flipped, it's working, and this is a case study for what can be done in other states around the united states. >> sandra: sounding more and more like a presidential campaign pitch. let me rephrase the question a little bit as i dig through this drafting glenn youngkin for 2024, no longer being a fantasy. and put this out there and get your reaction. the thirsting for youngkin is not well orchestrated power play. the latest slap dash scheme in a long dash for the powerlessness so many republicans feel as trump plows ahead shrugging off political indictments and

outrage over rhetoric they feel is growing dark and dangerous. if i put the question to you a different way, do you feel a responsibility for your party and for your country to jump in this race? >> let me begin with how -- one, how humbling this is. 40 years ago i'm washing dishes and taking out trash in the hotel, and i'm new at this, governor 21 months, i think we have moved things in virginia. it's encouraging that people are watching and like what we are doing. >> sandra: what would hold you back? >> i'm focused. we have to hold our house and flip our senate. i believe it's a very important moment, not just for virginia to show we can do this, but to prove to the nation that you can turn this around in a very short period of time and i'm excited

what we are demonstrating. common sense conservative policies often times are debated in philosophy, and we are demonstrating with real results that a state that was -- was languishing with more economic growth and shut down during the pandemic and schools that were 44th in the nation to put kids back in the classroom with extended learning loss that's persistent and deep, we can address all of this, and we can do it with common sense and it works. that is the key message for us. >> john: and the same time, quietly register for the nevada caucuses and still have a focus on the november election. >> the same time, john, all virginia voters need to register to vote, as a virginian, go to secure your vote, make a plan early and win the races. >> john: i get my ballot mailed to me every cycle. and with the off year elections i get plenty of ballots. let me ask you about scott

smith, the father in loudoun county arrested at a school board meeting and held up by the national school board association as the poster child for violent behavior and the threat facing america. he was sort of referenced in this letter that they sent to merrick garland as they wrote, as these acts of malice, violence and threats against public school officials have increased, classification of the heinous actions to be equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes. again, scott was here, and he said look, this whole thing got got misreported. he was not saying anything to the school board but an argument with another person in the audience. >> i was sitting in my little area and radical protestor came and i heard this shouting behind me, tried to explain to this lady what was going on, she looked at me dead in the face and said that's not true, that's not what happened. you are lying. i called her an expletive, the next thing i know there's hands

all over me, grabbing me from behind. you are not allowed to do that. >> john: you were not even addressing the superintendent at the time. >> never. >> john: the school board association holds him up as a potential domestic terrorist. you pardoned him. >> he should not have been prosecuted. here is a dad, his daughter was sexual assaulted in the bathroom, and they covered it up, and took the assailant and moved him to another school where he sexual assaulted someone else and they tried to cover it up. it took an election, where i was hired as the new governor and i directed our attorney general to go investigate this, and when the final judgment came down or the final report came down from the grand jury, the superintendent was guilty of, or at least charged with -- charged with trying to cover this whole thing up and he was fired and

indicted. this man should have never ever been prosecuted. it was -- my real honor but also i think my duty to give him a full pardon, and to recognize that his family has been through so much and i hope that this is a pathway to healing for them. he's got an amazing daughter, and these are deeply engaged parents, and this was part of the ground 0 of loudoun county that became the parents matter movement that swept across virginia and i believe across the country, rightly so. going back to where we started. parents must have a say, not just a seat at the table, but the head seat at the table in their children's lives. we have to stop allowing bureaucrats and politicians and the teachers' unions to try to raise our kids for us. i have not met a single parent who says i want to co-parent with the government, they want to raise their children and we have to make sure we protect their rights to do so. >> sandra: such a great point, and something you continue to pursue in a way that many others have not been able to, governor.

on that note, parents hear you saying that and they think well, you are spearheading that effort at a time we are trying to get, you know, make up for lost learning during the pandemic and get people, kids back to reading and writing in our schools. i mean, you've got kids who are graduating, they are getting pushed through the school systems and they are not even reading anywhere near grade level in some cases. how do we get things back on track in our education system in this country? >> it's a travesty, and it is completely a result of terrible decisions in virginia by the previous governor and school boards to keep schools closed. i said earlier, we were 44th in the nation in getting kids back into schools and now we see virginia on the nape scores last year, first on the nation in learning loss in 4th grade reading and math. largest learning loss in the nation. it's clear. we put through a budget and now have a program we are rolling out aggressively across the commonwealth for intensive

tutoring. 3 to 5 hours a week of incremental tutoring, 3 through 8th graders in math and reading, it will not cost parents or families a penny. it's critical, it's going to run for 18 weeks to 36 weeks in our schools where students are at risk of failing and the numbers are staggering. nearly two-thirds of virginia's 3 through 8th graders at risk or are failing math standardized tests. and 50% are failing or at risk of failing reading standardized tests. this is a lost generation unless we get moving. this is an intensive, all hands on deck effort, all in virginia, and we are going to get this done because these children deserve it. this is -- this is clear, they did not get the building blocks they needed, telling children that watching a 12-inch screen tv is a quality education was a lie, and it's not to knock teachers, i will tell you the teachers across the commonwealth were working so hard in these

impossible circumstances, this was very, very bad decision-making from people in charge and now we have to go back and we owe it to our kids to fix it for them. we have to let them catch up because we need to build our future on them. and the future of the commonwealth and the future of our country built on the 3rd through 8th graders that must be able to read and do math. >> john: lingering problems but better than baltimore where all the students failed math in the high schools. unbelievable. >> it's horrific. >> john: great to sit down and talk with you, look forward to what the election brings in more than a month from now. >> sandra: and back to capitol hill, the first impeachment inquiry hearing is underway again after a brief break. let's listen. >> believe both hunter and trump should be held accountable for any of the indictments against them. if convicted by a jury of their peers. we can take a minute. no, it's serious, a serious matter.

if you need to think about it, we can take a moment and think about it. it is serious, this is very serious. think about it. should both hunter and -- >> will the gentleman yield to a question? >> see whether you raise your hand. should hunter and trump be held accountable if they are found guilty on any of their indictments. raise your hand if you think equal justice under the law applies and trump should be held accountable. i think it is worse than embarrassing that republicans won't raise their hands. they refuse to say that equal justice under the law should apply to everyone. and when you step back and think about it. >> what about the january 6th defendants? >> point of order. >> this double standard insults the institutions of congress that people fought and died to build. this impeachment hearing clearly is not about justice. we cannot say equal justice under the law for everyone, except for the guy who holds the leash. i'll yield the rest of my time

to ranking member raskin. >> you were interrupted by several colleagues, one question from georgia, said what about the january 6th defendants, all of whom have lawyers, due process, presumption of innocence and they were convicted of various things, including assaulting federal officers and metropolitan police. >> what about the blm rioters, two -- >> we have heard, it was not on the microphones, multiple members saying it's wrong the january 6th rioters were convicted by a jury of their peers. that is disturbing. we have started to get used to it but we can't get used to it. >> chairman -- >> point of order. >> mr. fallon. >> ask unanimous consent to enter the fd1023 into the record. >> without objection, so ordered. >> mr. perry from pennsylvania for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. in an attempt to establish some patterns here and get to actual

facts out, media won't report, the president's son seemed to benefit often from government positions as far back as 1996, his first job at mbna, and senator joe biden supported the bankruptcy bill favored the company to the peril of average citizens and senator for umbna. after which hunter continued to benefit from his father's public positions, and in 2011 he was contacted by cha vang, a chinese politician and businessman, wanted to form a joint investment firm, then a subsidiary of the bank of china. seems the president's son only skill is leveraging the family name, seems it comes to him like swimming comes to a fish. if we could put up on the screen an email from -- between devon

archer and the president's son and if you can see here where he's asked, why does the super chairman love me so much and the answer is it's easy. it has nothing to do with me and everything to do with my last name. that's the president's son, that's not me saying it, that's the president's son. he openly acknowledged it doesn't come from education or business acumen, it comes from his name. and it is his name but not his name that was garnering all the attention. both were selling their name. one to mbna and the other to highest bidder. devon archer in his transcribed interview, if you will put that on the screen, please. he confirmed it. if i can get mr. archer's testimony on the screen.

while it's getting up there, the clock is ticking. biden family, confirmed and said the biden family was the product or the brand that joe biden was the brand and brought most value to the brand. the president's son was addicted to drugs and he was frequenting prostitutes so i expect his value of the brand was pretty low compared to his father, who was the vice president of the united states. i mean, companies brand their products, whether it's a food company or a car company or shoe company, they brand it because it provides trust by their buyers, from their buyers. now, this committee first released bank memo on march 16, 2023, that showed that less than two months after the vice president left office, sent robinson walker, a close friend

and business associate of the biden family, $3 million. shortly thereafter, literally the next day, and within the next series of days, robinson walker sent over $1 million to the biden family and associated businesses. and they were sent inspect incremental payments. and it follows a pattern. i can give you other instances where the exact same thing occurred. one-third for robinson walker, one-third, you know, one-third here, one-third there. that's how it worked out. now, the biden family provided no legitimate services yet hallie biden, working as a school counselor, was provided some of this money. for what? what was the product or what was the service? mr. chairman, i ask unanimous consent to enter into the record the first bank record memos dated march 16, 2023, new evidence resulting from the oversight committee investigation into the biden family's influence peddling and

influence scheme, family members and biden businesses received over $1 million from state energy hk limited, a chinese company. >> without objection ordered. >> mr. turley, thank you for being here. what is influence peddling? >> influence peddling is to sell access or influence to an office holder to achieve some end. there is sometimes a very quid pro quo, a specific act that you want, sometimes it's a general pattern of corruption of favoring someone. i actually in my testimony gave the, i believe it was the canadian definition, which i thought was a particularly good one under their law, but the united states also signed off on a convention on public corruption that also has definitions that are relevant. >> mr. dubinsky, in the remaining time, wires are sent t family members with no apparent

legitimate services rendered. >> time. >> something you would find interest in and yourself if charged with it would investigate on your own? >> gentleman's time has expired. please answer the question. >> it would be a red flag and i would follow up on that to see where it leads. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> mr. chairman, point of order. the -- i didn't want to interrupt the distinguished gentleman from pennsylvania but he referred to an email at the beginning of his testimony and we have not been provided a copy and don't know where it came from. what is the source of the material? >> the source of the material is from hunter biden. >> hunter biden sent it to the committee? hunter biden sent that to the committee? because you know, we have a rule on this, we have to be provided all material that's entered in the record. our colleagues rely on emails reportedly from hunter biden's

laptop, you have not shared with us the hard drive to hunter biden's laptop and nobody has verified them. >> cbs news did a forensic audit and said they are legitimate. >> i asked unanimous consent to have the email entered into the record. >> then i'm going to object to it. we don't know what the basis is. >> we'll work on getting you an answer for that. >> if i could say the computer repair guy who disseminated that stuff says he cannot account for the chain of custody of the alleged hard drive of the laptop. so we have no idea where that comes from. >> we'll get you to answer that, but i would like to remind the ranking member that the president's son is now suing the repair guy for leaking his laptop. remember, he denied it forever and you said it was russian manipulation, now it's -- >> i agree with you, he can't account for the custody either. >> we'll get you the answer on the source of the email. chair -- >> ask unanimous consent to

enter into the record our own 2023 transcribed interview of devon archer where he clearly states "the brand with washington d.c., not president biden." he was asked the brand was really joe biden, and archer said d.c. is the brand. >> it's in the record twice now. >> i guess it's an reminder. >> chair recognizes miss crockett from texas. >> information in the fbi form 1023 my republican colleagues keep citing is not evidence of anything. this form reflects years old secondhand unverified information from a ukrainian oligarch as relayed to the fbi by a confidential human source. these unverified secondhand allegations have been repeatedly debunked and undermined including the confidential human source who relayed it to the fbi, tip recorded in form 1023 was thoroughly explored by the

u.s. attorney hand picked by donald trump which was attorney general william barr, and the assessment was closed. finally, devon archer, hunter biden's former business partner who worked with a ukrainian oligarch in question told this committee in a transcribed interview in july that he had no knowledge of any such statements allegedly described in this form. repeating the same lies will not somehow turn them into truths. kind of like the election that trump lost. say it with me, he lost it. repeating the same lie that he won was not going to turn the election around. the lost in this chamber pushing lies and lunacy. talk about china and the deals and let me point out the fact that right now each of you has admitted that none of you are fact witnesses. we walked in without facts and

unfortunately because what we say isn't necessarily evidence, we have wasted the american people's time and we are going to walk out of this chamber and we still have no facts that are leading to anything but let me give y'all a little bit of teeth while we are here. so i have a document i will ask for unanimous consent to enter into the record, a fact sheet on president trump's shady business dealings with the chinese government. >> what are you entering in, record from who? >> congressional integrity. >> congressional integrity project, the dark money pac? >> i object. >> i object to that. >> of course you are going to object but we are going to talk about it. says trump has extensive financial ties to the chinese government. collected millions from chinese government owned entities while in office. i have the best tenants in the world, president trump was well aware of the multi-million dollar lease to chinese interests. promised to donate foreign government profits in office but

donated less than a third of the proceeds. he maintained three foreign bank accounts while in office, including one in china. president trump's business with china raised legal and ethical concerns. president trump, president xi loves the people of the country and doing a very good job. i don't want to talk about what y'all want to act like is some big mystery, we keep sitting here and professor gerhardt, just to be clear, as my colleagues have even tried to provide evidence which they are not the ones to provide evidence, have you ever heard them say if since we have been sitting here for i don't know how long. >> yes, i -- i've been taking a tally. >> ok. >> can you show us what the tally is? >> more than 35 times the republican witnesses and members of the committee have used the word if. >> thank you so much for that, honestly, if they would say if or hunter and we were playing a drinking game, i would be drunk

by now. i promise you, they have not talked about the subject of this, which would be the president. but let me tell you something that was so disturbing as i walked in to this chamber today. as i prepared i said what is the crime? because when you are talking about impeachment, you are talking about high crimes or misdemeanors. and i can't seem to find the crime and honestly, no one has testified of what crime they believe the president of the united states has committed. but when we start talking about things that look like evidence, they want to act like they blind. they don't know what this is. these are our national secrets, looks like in the [bleep] to me. this looks like more evidence of our national secrets, say on the stage at mar-a-lago. talking about somebody in this committee, high crimes at least indictments, 32 counts national security secrets, seven counts

obstructed investigation, three false statements, one count of conspiracy to defraud the united states, two counts related to efforts to obstruct the vote certification proceedings, one count of conspiracy to violate civil rights, 23 counts related to forgery or false document statements, eight counts to soliciting. i could go on. 91 counts pending right now. the president is guilty of loving his child unconditionally and that is the only evidence that they have brought forward and honestly, i hope and pray that my parents love me half as much as he loves his child. until they find some evidence we need to get back to the people's work, keeping this government open so the people don't go hungry in the streets of the united states and i will yield. >> chair recognizes mr. timmons from south carolina. >> i'm going to try to simplify this for the american people. my colleagues across the aisle

allege the inquiry and hearing is improper. it could not be further from the truth. we have enormous amounts of evidence to indicate that hunter biden was engaged in nefarious and illegal activities with foreign nationals from china, romania, russia, while making millions of dollars doing so. to date we discovered up to 25 million in payments and that's without hunter biden's personal bank records. the question is this, why we are here, what did joe biden know and when. due to the evidence, speaker mccarthy appropriately initiated an impeachment inquiry to get the tools and the answer to that question. based on the circumstantial evidence, the laptop, whistleblower, shell companies, testimony from devon archer, the congress has a duty to determine whether joe biden was a loving favor taken advantage of delinquent son or knowing participant complicit in the

scheme and financially compensated for his role. that's why we are here today, to answer that simple question. determine if our current president is compromised. the scheme is complicated, countries and different roles different people played but the plan is simple. a foreign client has a problem. the foreign client pays a biden. the vice president leverages influence. biden family earns their fee. that's the scheme. we have seen it played over and over. i've put a lot of time to figure out how this got started, and 2014, seems vice president biden, after four decades of public service, and thinking he would never hold public office again, started down a slippery slope. perhaps he just wanted to help his struggling son. maybe he never intended to sell policy decisions and for the family to get millions of dollars. there is mounting evidence to suggest that may be what happened. it began in the spring of 2014.

hunter biden gets his father to have business with foreign nationals and devon archer. prime minister of -- and also the wife of the mayor of moscow, and sent a wire to a shell company, and $340,000 to another shell company for hunter biden to buy a porsche. we have the bank records to prove that. what was the money for? what were the goals of those payments? one, her motives were clear. knew russia was going to invade crimea and as a response to the invasion, the obama invasion would announce sanctions and visa bans. who is left off the list, who was notice ably missing, the richest woman in russia, wired hunter biden $3.5 million days earlier, a coincidence.

and aid in the facilitation of the sale of oil rights to burisma. and they joined a chinese communist party and announced a deal, rich again. another amazing coincidence. these are only the first two of dozens of examples of the scheme. a foreign client has a problem, a foreign client pays a biden. vice president leverages influence for a favorable out come for the client, the biden family earns their fee. work over the last nine months warrants additional scrutiny for family members and business associates and requires additional tools at our disposal whether joe biden was complicit. the next steps are to subpoena additional documents to give context to determine joe biden's culpability. we are going to subpoena hunter biden's personal bank records. various business records, invoices and contracts to clarify what the payments are for, secret service logs,

movement patterns of then vice president. list goes on and on and i want everybody to remember. ber doing this because the department of justice, fbi and the irs refuse to do that their job. and they are possibly concealing the crimes. if joe biden was taking half of hunter biden's income, like he said in a text message, i hope they will join us in impeaching a corrupt president who sold out the american people. and with that, mr. chairman, i yield back. >> chair recognizes mr. goldman from new york. >> thank you, mr. chairman. this hearing is entitled the basis for an impeachment inquiry. you would think that after eight months of investigation we would not need to have a hearing with no witness who has any direct knowledge of the evidence to determine that there is a basis for this impeachment inquiry. and this is an impeachment inquiry. mr. turley and mr. gerhardt

testified in 2019 in the official impeachment process in the judiciary committee, the inquiry was in the intelligence committee. and in the intelligence committee, there were 17 firsthand witnesses with direct knowledge of the allegations and the public hearings had 12 witnesses all with firsthand. here we are in our first hearing, no one has any actual knowledge or evidence there is nothing new here. so why don't we have some of the fact witnesses here? you've brought them in, you've -- they have come in already. what about devon archer? now, mr. donalds and the chairman want to disavow mr. archer's testimony that mr. biggs entirely relies upon but they don't want him to come sit here. why? well, maybe because he testified that joe biden never discussed business with hunter or other business associates, got nothing from their businesses and never took any official acts related

to the businesses. or maybe the american people might hear that this $3.5 million from the woman actually had nothing to do with hunter biden which is what devon archer testified. what about eric schwerin, his accountant, and administrative and bookkeeping tasks for then vice president biden and hunter biden. he saw vice president biden's bank accounts and he told the committee that he was not aware of any involvement by president biden in the financial conduct of his relative's businesses much less transactions into or out of then vice president's bank account related to business conducted by any family member. and the list goes on, we have already talked about rudy giuliani, and the reason is, you bring in the fact witnesses and your case goes down the drain. so let's talk about what your

allegations are. $15 million to 9 biden family members from 2014 to 2019. mr. dubinsky, was joe biden president of the united states from 2014 to 2019? >> no, he was not. >> and in fact, from 2017 to 2021, he was a private citizen, right? >> my understanding. >> mr. gerhardt, the framers made clear conduct as private citizens are best left for the legal system, not the impeachment process, is that right? >> yes, sir. >> now, even yesterday in releasing 700 pages of documents, chairman smith admitted that he's not an expert in the timeline. which seems to encapsulate this investigation to a t. here we are seeing text and emails from 2017, we are seeing department of justice emails from 2020, when it was donald trump justice department and all we hear all day long, biden family, biden family, biden

family. and every time you hear that you know that it doesn't include joe biden. if there were nine biden family members who got money from those business transactions, isn't it striking that joe biden was not one of them? pretty remarkable. and what we hear is this is an exceedingly complex chain of transactions, that's what the house republicans said. pattern of incredible financial complexity. miss mcclain showed a chart, it had an investor, it had an investment company that invested money that received money, and then it went to the in have he is tors. mr. dubinsky, that's not very complicated, is it? >> that's not really the question. the question is what was going on there. was there an investment. >> i'm just asking about the structure. what we have here and we hear so much about services and all of this, you know, services are

legitimate or product, it's an investment company, it's a private equity company that invests capital in other corporations and companies, that is standard practice. >> that's an assumption. >> mr. turley, you said in 2019 that impeachment requires a clear criminal act. is that right? >> no, in fact in the trump impeachment i said repeatedly you can impeach someone for noncriminal conduct but i said then i'm saying now, which is i strongly encourage you to look at criminal -- >> that testimony is there. but let's -- >> you can't, i have ten seconds left. you have said that lying as a president is not impeachable, you have said that there's an influence peddling campaign but you will acknowledge, will you not, that in order to have a criminal act of public corruption or bribery, there must be under mcdonel an official act in connection to some sort of personal benefit. isn't that right? >> the gentleman's time has expired. >> just answer the question.

>> it's a little more complicated. >> no it's not. an official act for a personal benefit. >> gentleman's time has expired. chair recognizes miss greene from georgia. >> thank you, mr. chairman. on july 25th, 2023, chairman comer and i sent the department of justice a letter requesting information related to victims of hunter biden, specifically women he sexually exploited and then claimed as deductions on his taxes through his law firm. but he never paid those taxes. not surprisingly the department of justice did not respond. after the doj's sweetheart hunter biden deal fell apart, by the way, led by the special counsel, david weiss on september 8, 2023, chairman comer and i again sent a letter to the same doj officials asking about victim's rights issues related to hunter biden's sexual

exploitations. doj once again failed to respond. well yesterday i found out why they don't want to talk with us. in a new email just released, by the way, from october 2020, could you please display the email. the delaware u.s. attorney's office doj tags fbi and irs described evidence they have related to man act violations. subject says man act. first the title man act, then it's clear there are charges on the table while the department of justice is in hiding from meeting with me. the department of justice and irs email and david weiss's delaware u.s. attorney's office, email states there are communications with trafficker number one and trafficker number two, and that hunter biden had escorts who traveled across state lines. these women are victims and the department of justice is refusing to protect their

rights. not only that, david weiss, the now special counsel in charge of supposedly investigating hunter biden has been clearly covering up hunter biden's crimes. david weiss is complicit and must be removed from the special counsel. we also have more information we subpoenaed. let me give you an even better example based on an interview with one of hunter biden's victims with law enforcement. it says here that the victim stated that biden told her that his father was the vice president and asked to google search his name. hunter biden's victim stated she told biden she was not interested in google searching his name and just wanted to be paid. hunter biden's victim stated

that biden then showed her a picture of his father with president barack obama. don't forget, his father was vice president then. hunter biden's sex -- hunter biden's victim stated after she was shown the aforementioned picture who was the vice president of the united states, with the president of the united states, barack obama, she became afraid. after hunter biden's victim left the location she arrived back at her apartment and told her friend who she was just with. hunter biden's victim stated that her friend told her you have no idea who you are dealing with. these women were terrified, terrified. he used his father, hunter biden used his father, the vice president of the united states, to threaten his victim who he had just trafficked for sex.

and the department of justice refuses to speak to me? hunter biden needs to be held accountable for his sexual exploitation of women and we have shown more evidence. we have shown evidence this is what it looks like. this is what man act violations look like. >> mr. chairman -- >> i reclaim my time. reclaim my time. >> under clause 6 and rule 17. >> it is sad -- >> point of order, point of order. >> pretend to care about women's rights while allowing hunter biden to exploit women. >> chairman, a parlimentary challenge before us. >> point of order, the point and we'll stop the clock for you, miss greene. >> mr. chairman, our colleague from georgia has introduced before pornographic exhibits and

displayed things that are really not not suitable for children watching. >> bathing suit not suitable? >> i would like the member to not introduce pornographic today. >> we cannot see it from down there, you did not make it available before it started. >> you've seen it before, its on the internet, everywhere. >> and you are submitting a naked woman's body. >> it's a bathing suit. >> it's a bathing suit. do you have glasses, do you wear them or not? >> i have contacts in, thank you. >> congratulations. >> chair, i ask miss greene to proceed. >> let's talk about more evidence the democrats have denied that has turned out to be true. we all know joe biden is the big guy. we confirmed that hunter biden was lobbying his father. here is another example just released yesterday. this is from a timeline from one of the irs whistleblowers and

quotes an email between a serbian politician and hunter biden. did you have a chance to talk with the big man? he is receiving my prime minister on wednesday. please let me know if you think that what we discussed back in d.c. can be mentioned in the meeting. my domestic strategy, how i proceed in dealing with my government very much depends on whether it happens or not. this is a conversation between hunter biden and vuc jeramish. this is influence peddling. how hunter biden was selling his father's political power and influence and this is a perfect example. this is evidence right here. i would like to remind everyone this is the beginning of the impeachment inquiry. we are casting a wide net and finding every single person, whether it's last administration, the administration before that, and whether it's the current administration that has covered up the crime. >> point of order. >> of the biden family and we

will -- >> 54 seconds over. >> i will let mr. goldman go over. it's your lucky day. >> i think it's your lucky day. what a day we are having here, isn't it, right? i mean, listen, as a former director of emergency management i know a disaster when i see one. don't believe me, just ask steve bannon. steve bannon, your guy, just went on and said you know, perhaps -- >> whose guy is steve bannon? >> you know who steve bannon is. >> perhaps, steve bannon went on and said perhaps the republicans shouldn't have started with a witness, he was talking about professor turley, who was going to say right off the bat that there wasn't an impeachable offense. i quote, he says perhaps we should have put him on the maybe list for one of our witnesses. so, your other witness, miss

o'connor, gave a complete recitation of the last nine months, eight months of these hearings, went through some of the greatest hits that have come out, right, everything that has been presented, you know, both in these committees we have been having, on tv, all of the evidence that you guys have been presenting over the last eight months, all of that together and what does professor turley say? everything we know at this juncture doesn't rise to the level of impeachment. boy, that is awkward. i mean, look, it's like political impeachment malpractice. but look, let's go back at some of the previous comments that my colleagues have given. so the chairman, and i have a slide, the chairman goes on hannity, you know sean, you appear with him on fox news all the time, and hannity asks a softball question, do you believe that this is now officially the joe biden bribery

allegation and do you believe you will be able to prove it? the chairman should have just said yes. but no, he says hope so. because he doesn't have any evidence. couldn't say yes, right? next slide please, and then senator grassley. grassley says what we all know out loud, we aren't interested in whether or not the accusations against vice president biden are accurate, we all know you are not interested in the truth. and then donald trump, he's giving it all away, we know he likes to show his cards. he says i think had they not done it to me perhaps you wouldn't have it done to them, and this is going to happen with indictments, too. so, you know, donald trump, the tough guy, right, what is he saying? teaching the lesson where he all teach our kids, right. if they do it to you, go do it back. so look, you know, look, we are all appearing now in the world's worst acted tv drama, picked up for a second season, the real house republicans of oversight, you know, perhaps the material

is so bad due to the writer strike. how many republicans, freedom caucus members, part of the chaos caucus have said there's no evidence to impeach joe biden. and of course we know it's not about the evidence. why? a list of all the articles of impeachment that have been filed by my colleagues, some on this committee. when was the first article filed? it was filed in january of '21. two weeks after january 6th. so before we had a single hearing, before they went through this myriad of fishing, they were filing articles of impeachment. professor turley, you said this doesn't rise to the level of impeachment, and you said they shouldn't prejudge. here is a list right here of every single member, many on this committee, prejudging. they are filing articles of impeachment, covid, afghanistan, hunter biden, and they are one

upping in the sleepover at mar-a-lago. no, i filed articles of kamala harris, ridiculous. it's a simple board, all other presidents in the united states, 50% of the impeachments, donald trump, the other 50. donald trump has 50 of the impeachments in american history but 100% of the indictments, 100% of all indictments. 0 for the other presidents. listen, let me do it another way. i want to channel my inner tim russert, so go to the board, i don't have florida, but donald trump impeachments, oh, how many impeachments? two there, how many indictments, we have four, how many for biden, 0, 0. donald trump is right. i'm -- he's sick of winning. he's just winning, running away with it and that's why we are here. we are here because of math. that's what this is about. they can't save donald trump. they can't take away the two

impeachments and the four indictments but put some numbers on the board for joe biden. but the problem when you sling mud, you have to have mud and they don't have anything, mr. chairman. look, we get it, we know why we are here, why they say the biden family, the biden, james, joe biden's dog commander but not joe biden, never joe biden. so, when are you going to have the vote on impeachment, mr. chairman, what are you scared of? call the vote, come on. if you think there is so much evidence, we are here, call the vote on impeachment. impeach him right now, i dare you. >> gentleman's time has expired. the chair recognizes mr. gosar for five minutes. >> the cefc of china energy. who is chairman yi? chairman yi had connections to

the chinese military. in theory a private communicate, they have layers of committees that are stains of state-owned enterprises. the ccp affiliated entity was closely affiliated with joe biden. he was engaged so closely with chairman yi cefc they shared space in washington d.c. with him. joe biden was considered a partner. let's break down the evidence. plans show september 21, 2017 -- we'll talk about that in a minute, hunter biden e-mailed a building in washington d.c. to request that keys be made available for office mates joe biden, jill biden, jim biden, gong dong and chairman of the cesc. not only did he share with his son, hunter biden, asked that the signage for the venture be listed as the biden foundation

hudson west cefc us. in case it's not clear that joe biden wasn't a partner in these business dealings with affiliated entities with a key shared office space, the e-mail shows that hunter biden referenced joe biden and his partner in this venture. hunter shared the personal phone numbers who hunter biden shared with gong dong and jim biden. the management was told to call joe biden if they chose. cefc chairman yi gifted hunter biden a diamond worth $80,000 during their business relationship. chairman yi was detained in 2018 by chinese authorities initially recorded by chinese media that his detention was ordered by president jinping. mr. chairman, i ask for unanimous consented to enter this e-mail show joe biden linked with chairman yi. >> without objection. so ordered. >> let me ask you a question. who do you