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angle" washington tonight. looting as reparations? that's the focus of tonight's angle. ♪ i never thought i would see the day in america where looting almost seems to be part of the new normal. but, in democrat run cities, that's exactly what we have. now, while the republicans were debating in california last night, rioters were busy smashing their way into little mom and pop stores for the second night in a row. >> overnight surveillance video captures the moment a group breaks into this business in less than one minute they swipe merchandise off the walls and shelves leading mass beauty supply in ruins. >> how am i supposed to fix this? what next? i don't know. >> laura: i will tell you what's next. unless we see an about-face in policy, we'll get more of this. until a night with no looting becomes the anomaly. >> elsewhere in philadelphia, smashed windows broken bottles,

and shelves wiped clean of merchandise is what remains of this liquor store. thieves grew even bolder on wednesday ripping out what was once an atm at this wells fargo bank. >> ainsley: lots of father alsoness, rudderless kids i support or soros d.a.s that's a factor and under staffed police departments and politicians refusing to do what is necessary. now, remember the back drop here. looting is an extension of the protest culture the democrats celebrate. so if you are a liberal knocking down a statue after george floyd was killed, you are a hero. >> the protesting is righteous indignation over mr. floyd's murder and systemic racism and injustice. >> as millions of americans take to the streets in peaceful, righteous protest, i hope that this moment, one of pain and sorrow and grief, can also be a

watershed moment for action. >> we have not seen violence coming out of protests around, you know, policing. we have not seen that we have seen righteous protest. >> laura: but, if you are a conservative, your protests are never righteous. even if you are just walking through the capitol snapping photos. if you do that, you're a traitor. but the truth is, democrats aren't really bothered much by looting because looting is just one more way of redistributing the wealth. they don't think most of you deserve to be able to buy fancy workout clothes, lululemon? no, not you. or the latest model iphone, you don't deserve that so looting is just kind of a hands on way of leveling the playing field. >> everybody must eat. everybody must eat! everybody must eat! everybody. everybody must eat! yes! oh my god. ha ha ha ha ha.

[bleep] >> laura: yeah, sometimes they even let slip what they really think. >> i don't care. if somebody decides to loot a gucci or a macyy's or a nike, because that makes sure that that person eats. that makes sure that that person has clothes that makes sure that that person can make some kind of money because this city obviously doesn't care about them. not only that, that's reparations. >> laura: that's reparations. does this $6 million house that blm founder also fall under the reparations theory? of course leftists don't care about allegations of widespread fraud within black lives matter just like they didn't care that the biden family got rich because hunter was trading off daddy's name. and it's just like they shrug off widespread retail theft, it doesn't matter. if the criminals have the right political views on or about if they come from the right victim status mentality, that may deserve the benefit of the

doubt. now, many of the thugs looting stores live lives of resentment because that's what they have been taught. and they have heard this over the years. it's been drilled into them that they are oppressed. that they are entitled. and that the country is filled with and was founded by racists. so, until we restore law and order, a sense of right and wrong and own families with equal opportunity for all regardless of skin color, the chaos will continue. but the question is which democrat will have the guts to call this out for what it really is? and that's the angle. joining me now to react is okay la, cultural commentator and former left wing activist and scott former commander of the minneapolis police department we know all the difficulty we have seen in minneapolis since the floyd killing, okay la, you used to subscribe to the thinking that they did it to me or my

people in the past, live is unfair, so i should take what i can get and they have insurance anyway. it's all kind of justified. what is your reaction to this tonight, given the widespread looting that we are seeing? >> this is really heart breaking for me to see now, laura. and especially given my past. as you said before i was a radical leftist which meant i subscribed to a lot of the beliefs that probably many of the young people in these videos have. i thought that i had a deep sense of entitlement towards what i was owed in this country that i deserved reparations and if the government wasn't going to hand me those reparations then maybe it would be okay if people resorted to things like rioting and looting. i never personally engaged that that sort of behavior but i understood it from that perspective when i was a leftist. to see these videos is heart breaking and devastating especially when you take into account that many of these engaging in this behavior are young black americans, which signals to me that they're being fed the very same narrative that i was fed as a child and they

are taking to the most criminal acts of behavior they can in order to justify the pain and the anger that they feel towards this country. >> laura: scott, the live streaming and the triumphalism with which they carry out of the looting i mean, a lot of this is fed by tiktok and social media. there does seem to be a real pride in look at what we got. we got the latest model of this or we went in and we took this. and, look, you know, we still have our masks on and they didn't even catch us. that's different from what i recall when i was a little kid in the 1970s when we saw some unrest over the war effort. >> yeah, laura, you are absolutely right there. is a sense of arrogance and really no consequences for these individuals. it's very difficult and challenging for the police to respond to these incidents because they happen so quickly. when they do arrest these folks, it's really critical that there

is really hard line taken by the courts and the prosecution. the philadelphia police commissioner, i think, said it correctly is that this has nothing to do with protest in any way, shape, or form. these are nothing but opportunistic criminals that are taking advantage of a situation. the sense of arrogance that they have in going about doing this. and no fear of reprisal. >> laura: as a police officer, how do you respond to this? we'll get back to amala in one moment. i'm looking at these police officers and they're from all walks of life. it's a racially mixed police department in philadelphia. they are trying to control -- at one point there was 100 people. what do you possibly do? >> yeah. it's extremely dangerous and challenging for officers to respond. and it's frustrating for members of the public to see this taking place oftentimes with very little police response. but you kind of mentioned it, you are dealing with oftentimes dozens or hundreds of people at

multiple different locations. usually throughout the city that are doing this. and, unless the police are right there on the spot to prevent this from happening, once they go in, they are very quick. they are hitting these stores. they are grabbing the merchandise. they are getting out of there as quickly as they can. if the officers are lucky, they are able to grab a couple of people. it really creates hazard for the officers. very quickly these crowds doing the looting can also and have turned on police officers responding and it's a very dangerous situation for the officers themselves. >> laura: yeah. watching that video, it was terrifying because you don't know who is going to pull a gun out or a knife and everyone is videos so you are afraid to do the wrong thing. okay that la, your governor, i know you are buddies, governor gavin newsom think the crime concerns some of them are overblown. >> what is the biggest piece of misinformation that you think this so-called jv squad has been peddling, what concerns you the most? >> well, across the board they

sell fear and panic around border and crime but they sell common indifference around things like climate change fear and panic? we are seeing things in this country we haven't seen before take place in major urban areas where a lot of people without money are the ones really hurt the most by these types of vandalism and looting. but, newsom thinks it's climate change and crime is really a backseat issue. >> yeah. i don't know where he is living, but we're living in reality. i'm here in los angeles. we see the very same crimes like have you seen philadelphia happening here, smash and grabs, a lot of thing, people feeling like there's going to be no accountability so they just do whatever they want and they become career criminals. it's very similar to what we have seen out of philadelphia. and a lot of very metropolitan areas in this country. these are the things affecting our lives daily. if you want to have a conversation about climate change, that's fine. constituents are worried about

being robbed. they are worried about their safety. and they are worried about living in a community where their lives are at risk at any given moment. so, gavin newsom needs to put that at the forefront of his brain. that needs to become a priority. i can guarantee the very same man who is going to talk about how much he cares about people of color. how much he cares about the impoverished and they are the ones being directly affected by crime like this. >> laura: amala, how does this stop? i mean, how do you reach young people who have been fed this nonstop racial propaganda, which is extremely divisive? >> well, i think first you have to be unafraid to challenge that narrative and do so directly, right when you are hearing it from the horse's mouth. on top of that, we need law and order and strict law enforcement in these cities. if you have these looters and you round them up and place them in jail and hold them accountable for what they have done, that's going to set an example for anyone else who wants to engage in this sort of behavior. it takes actually voting the people who are responsible for this crime out, philadelphia, in

particular, has a d.a. that is particularly soft on crime. and as soon as the citizens and the constituents realize that, they need to get rid of him. that's how we change our cities. >> ainsley: elections matter and we have a big one come up next year. scott, to amala's point there, chicago's police officer, one of them said there is a big issue facing police. and this is what it is. >> cook county has become an arevolving door. officers continue lack of violent offenders but with then we find them back on the streets committing even more violent crimes, including murder. we have criminals, suburbans police departments and questioning in cook county because they know there will be less repercussions for their actions in cook county vs. surrounding counties. lawyers lawyer so, scott, it looks like criminals are actually doing their own type of forum shopping. they want to actually go to the jurisdictions where they have the least lowest chance of

actually being prosecuted. they are smarter than we think. >> yeah. you look at where these incidents have been most frequent, the looting, especially, as we are talking about tonight. chicago, certainly share of looting in minneapolis. you look at portland, oregon. you look at seattle. you look at san francisco. there is some commonalities there. the commonality really is that as am lapointeed there is no since of accountability by the criminals. enemies have you prosecutors and judges, they will put these individuals in jail for doing. this word get out very quickly that this is a spot to be. that's what i think we are seeing throughout some of these major cities throughout the country. amala, scott, thank you both. all right, next.

proof that president biden doesn't really care at all what you think. ned ryun and ben domenech are here and they will

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>> it's time to put away the rhetoric, they are americans. >> laura: warm and fuzzy. what did biden sound like today? >> there is an extremist movement that does not share the belief. the maga movement. intimidated by maga republican extremists. their extreme agenda. >> laura: only thing missing, that weird red light background, the finger point back at democrats when they accuse republicans of being this or that. right now they are. the threat from democracy is coming from people in the opposition party. they don't want to empower the people, but they fear the people

and will lie about this, he is more powerful himself. that is the greatest danger in a second tomorrow. joining me now ned and ben. this felt like a redo of his independence hall speech a year ago, which didn't work then. they seem to be going back to the drawing board. the president of the united states tries to demonize half the electorate. for any rational clear thinking american in america it should be deeply troubling that the president of the united states is trying to demonize tens of millions of people not only dehumanize demonize them. you don't have to be the close student of history those with authoritarian tendencies use it theory to try to dehumanize and turn these people into subhumans and once they can do that and these people the percentage of the population is seen as

subhuman, can you do to them whatever you want. and that's deeply troubling. and i think the left's authoritarian tendencies, language, behavior, that's existential threat to americans' way of life and their freedom. the other thing that was very troubling to me it's not america first trying to destroy american democracy. we're not the ones trying to censors free speech or the free flow of information. we're not trying to censors anyone. use against our political opponents over policy differences. that would be joe biden and the left. and their definition of democracy has absolutely nothing to do with true representative democracy. and that's very apparent from what joe biden said today. >> laura: ben, when i'm listening to biden today, and i'm thinking he is essentially saying that if he doesn't win, and his people wrote. this is he just reading the lines. i'm sure he doesn't even understand it at this point. if he doesn't win, then america is essentially a rogue nation. that's quite the message to the rest of the world at a very

dangerous time for the world. >> even the energy in those two clips that you just showed, laura was very different. one of them he seemed like he was struggling to kind of read off of the teleprompter in front of him, you know, the other he seemed to be far more, you know, attuned to what was going on. i think that's kind of an indication of the decline that we're witnessing as a nation. you know, in this president, who is just, you know, holding on to power, grasping at white knuckling it to the end without any kind of regard for the fact that he no longer has the ability to function as our commander-in-chief in any real way. look, i found this to be a completely, you know, depressing, objectionable speech, the kind of things that the demonization that he is engaged in of a significant portion of america, essentially half of americans. it's totally at odds with the kind of things that he promised when he was running for the presidency the first time. and it's consistent with the

kind of partisan demagoguery that we have seen from this white house, which just seeks out, you know, to find people to blame for all the problems that are at hand as opposed to engaging with their own flaws. their own flaws of bidenomics. their own flaws of inflation and everything that it has done to people's pocketbooks. they just won't engage with it. they won't address it as being honest and, instead, they are engaged in this complete fantasy world where they are always the heroes and everyone else is to blame for the problems at hand. >> laura: i think biden and his team would much rather deal with the ccp. on pretty much any issue than ever deal with any of the conservatives on the hill. my mean, conservatives mean as ned said subhuman but china you can work with. that's a twisted outlook. all right, ned, trump was speaking to the uaw members very smart yesterday trying to,

again, solidify the working class base. he wisely brought up biden's ev mandate and what it will do to the auto industry. check this out. >> for auto workers, biden's force transis a transition to hell. if union leaders will not demand that crooked joe repeal his electric vehicle mandate immediately, then it doesn't matter what hourly words you get it. just doesn't make a damn bit of difference because in two to three years you will not have one job in this state. >> laura: yeah. ned, it doesn't matter what you get in these negotiations, your jobs are going to be toast, especially with the encroaching china threat with the ev industry in manufacturing. >> well, exactly, laura. i mean, it's not a coincidence that the biden white house is so charitable and dovish towards china, especially on this electric vehicle and solar panel, solar power, which would all basically give a lot of power over the electric vehicle and green energy business to

china. it would make us heavily reliant upon them it. really is if you want to look at much broader picture beyond electric vehicles and all this, it's a national security issue. if you are going to actually take these parts of our manufacturing and give it over to china, significant portions of our life, and really let them truly control it, i think you are endangering a lot of our way of life, our jobs, our manufacturing, but also giving china a lot of power over which direction this country is going to take. not a shock at all from biden's white house doing this. >> laura: ben, before we go, biden was at this event in arizona, i guess, to honor senator john mccain by building a library and senator mccain's now. i know this is personal to you. and, obviously to your wife. but what can you tell us about this? >> well, what i can tell you, laura, is that the idea that you would take covid relief funds and use that to build a library for senator mccain would be an extremely insulting thing to

senator mccain, someone who, regardless of your opinion of his, you know, perspective on foreign policy, his ideology, on, you know, any number of things, was emphatic as a fiscal conservative and opponent of earmarks and a believer that you should not have pork spending and slush funds. the idea that you would take money from a covid relief fund in order to create a library is ridiculous. you could absolutely have raised this money from his former donors. i was talking to senator lindsey graham earlier today about this very point. it's something that could have been done, instead joe biden parachutes in and wants to get the lauds from the "new york times" and others being a defender of democracy by doing something like this with a ridiculous source for the funding involved. it's an absolutely abhorrent. i hope that some folks in the senate, who actually have fiscally conservative principle also claw this money back. it should not go to something

like this. and john mccain would not be in favor of it. neither am i, neither is my wife meghan, and i'm sure that many supporters of him who respect him for the fight that he had over pork spending would be in that same position as well. >> laura: all right, very interesting. we will be following that as well. ned and ben, thanks so much. all right, establishment republicans are already trying to push another entry into the race? they can't have trump, right? got to be someone else. well, who is it going to be? well, newt gingrich has some ideas and reaction, next. ♪

>> laura: okay the plutocrats are throwing a hail mary. they are seeing trump is still ahead in every single poll. big donors are now freaking out

and trying to draft virginia governor glenn youngkin into the presidential race. according to robert costa that well-known conservative at "the washington post." the plan is to push, if not shove youngkin into it during what they're calling the red vest retreat in mid october. >> have you ruled this out? >> ruled -- why rule out? >> jumping into the race. >> yeah. i have told you i'm totally focused on virginia elections. >> the whole state has flipped. it's working and this is a case study for what can be done in other states. >> laura: joining me now former speaker of the house newt gingrich, is he also a fox news contributor. mr. speaker, billionaire tomas told "the washington post" that the money is there if youngkin wanted to get in. what? what nonsense is this at this point? talk about doing an end run around the people, newt. they don't want what the people want, the big donors, they just want to control everything, i guess. >> i suspect the money is there,

but the votes aren't. i'm a big fan of glenn youngkin. i think he is doing a great job as governor. i think in 20028, he could be a very impressive not this year. is he focusing on the legislative races in virginia where he has the ability to make a difference. i was talking to pollster matt towery this afternoon. he told me based on wha he saw t night. this race is over. donald trump will be the nominee. they might as well quit having the various debates. they don't work. they are not helping anybody. and i think that's where we are. i think trump will be the nominee. trump will be the nominee and the question for everybody is do you want to see joe biden reelected or do you want to help donald trump? there is no middle ground here, i don't think. because you are either going to get trump as president or you are going to have biden and biden's re-election will be a disaster for the country. >> laura: i think you quoted on

my podcast today someone saying trump now, after this last debate is the reality and defeating biden is the necessity. given those two thoughts, the conservatives, i imagine, most of them see now. i mean, now what? are people going to start dropping out and endorsing trump or are they just going to hang out until super tuesday? >> well, i think -- i mean, i think the republican national committee should cancel the future debates and say, look, we recognize the objective fact that trump will be the nominee. we want to work with him. and then the next big hurdle is a totally corrupt judicial system which is trying every way it can to deny the american people the right to have the candidate that they are choosing. trump in some of these races, some of these polls, trump is like 43 points ahead of the next person. 43 points. he is gonna be the nominee.

and i think it tells you how terrified the left is that they're doing everything they can legally because they can't do anything politically. given the economy, given everything else that's going on, i think the odds are very high that trump will win the general election. and they're going to do everything they can to stop that. >> laura: newt, what about my idea that i floated last night on hannity's show that if we're going to have any debate, why not a debate between nikki haley and ron desantis? i know they are doing the debate with newsom. to me, that would be interesting, maybe no moderator, just the two of them, discussing maybe three or four big issues. because that -- that would actually be fairly entertaining. and i think we would maybe learn something. >> look, i think there are a number of people on stage last night. and i think you're right. if they were in a setting where they could have a real conversation, they would be more

interesting people but it wouldn't help -- would not help any of them get to be the nominee because the fact is very few people are going to watch -- i don't know what the numbers are last night. they will be worse. if there is a third debate, it will have virtually no viewership. it will have no impact except in the news media. so i mean i like nikki haley a lot. i think she is very smart and did a great job at the u.n. and a great job as governor. i think ron desantis is an amazing governor. and has been about as effective as you could be and in other circumstances i suspect he would be the frontrunner. but we are where we are trump is not really a candidate. he is the leader of a national movement. and that's a totally different psychological and emotional relationship candidacy. i think the question now is can we stop the justice department in the various legal assaults and, remember, they're not just attacking trump. they are trying to block robert f. kennedy jr.

>> laura: it's outrageous. if i can keep everybody off the ballot and i have no opponent, i will probably win, which is insane. i mean, have him lecture the rest of us on democracy, frankly, makes my stomach churn. >> laura: we are about to have doug burgum and vivek ramaswamy on the show. if they want to be considered future candidates for the presidency, maybe in a cabinet or-what would you suggest that they do now? really quickly? >> well, look, i have been a candidate. i know that you get in there. you always have hope. they are going to point out that nobody has even voted yet and they think i'm being presumous. my advice would be endorse trump. campaign across the country. get better known. >> i thought doug burgum, given his practical, real life experience at business, given the great job he has done in north dakota. he clearly should be in the cabinet. i think ramaswamy has amazing

future. he is 38 years old. i think he is going to do well. but all these folks are good people. it wasn't that any of them were bad people. it is that none of them is in the same league as donald trump. none of them is in a position to say with a straight face i can take on the entire national establishment, have them beat me up for eight years and still be cheerful out here campaigning. unlike anything i have seen. >> laura: newt, we're going to have him on so we'll bring it up. thank you so much. all right, newt laid down a harsh reality about what the race really is candidates vivek ramaswamy and governor doug burgum, next. ♪ hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still runs marathons, right? sadly, not anymore. wow. so sudden. um, we're not about to have the "we need life insurance" conversation again, are we?

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committedly agree with and things i disagree with. the things that i agree with is that i don't think last night's debate was actually very useful. having second tier candidates in the current field. i'm admittedly among them right now in polling, tearing each other down, that's not useful in our party versus a rich policy debate. however, everyone else is making their case about trump by bashing them and monday morning quarterbacking some decision he made. my view is different. i acknowledge he was the greatest president of the 21st century so far. but i have something that he doesn't, laura. it's really simple. i'm young. i have fresh legs. i'm able to reach the next generation in a way that trump cannot. that's undeniable. and that's how we are going to take the america first movement to the next level. everybody in this race needs to be able to at this point stop messing around and tearing each other down and clearly answer to the question what do you bring to the table trump doesn't it has to be american first candidate that's the nominee and that's my answer. >> laura: you are right about

that. vivek i don't think anyone doubts, i certainly don't that you are extremely bright and extremely impressive. the u gov poll just released yesterday the economist u imof poll has you polling nationally at 5%. that's 46 percentage points lower than trump. again, not to take away from, you know, your own success and i think i-i mean, coming from the world of business and never being in a political debate before, it's amazing. i really admire all of you get up on stage and do what you did last night. but, at some point, if you want a future in politics, you want those maga people to say yeah, you know something? when he could have stayed in, he decided to put the country first and start campaigning with trump. i mean, that's what newt is essentially saying. and at some point you are going to have to make that decision. you are going to make that decision at some point. >> my whole point is i'm an american first conservative. not a trump first conservative and not a vivek first

conservative. and so i'm one person in this race. i'm not tearing anybody else down. i'm focused on what are we running to? what does it mean to be an american. laura, i personally do believe it's going to take someone of the next generation to reach young americans for whom we are doing this. i'm doing this for my two sons and their generation. and i think that's what it's going to take, first of all, to win this election by large margins but, second of all, to reunite this country. it will take somebody whose best days are still ahead in life to see a country whose best days are still ahead of itself. so i do that by praising president trump because i think that's the right thing to do to recognize his record. but i'm young, i have fresh legs, that's the difference. and that's going to be the case i make to the voters i will be a america first candidate to the next generation that moves us forward. >> laura: all right, vivek, thank you for being on. first time on the angle another g.o.p. candidate on the staple last night north dakota governor doug burgum. governor, i agree with newt, you have been a terrific governor of

your state. such an impressive business background. i wanted to give you your opportunity to respond to what gingrich said that as impressive as you are, especially on the china question, you are not going to be president of the united states. but you could be commerce or treasury secretary for a republican nominee. your response? first of all, great to be on with you, i appreciate newt's comments. listen, i spent my whole life having people tell me what i can't be and what i can't accomplish. it's i would say get in line with everybody else. they say you can't build a global tech company in north dakota. we built one with 2,000 people. we built a billion dollars company. we did it with kids from small town and we ended up with customers in 1 # 2,000 countries. it's a -- i mean 132 countries around the world but hundreds of thousands of customers. we did that. then when i was going to run for governor it was seven years ago the same thing they said hey, you can't win. you are down 60% in the polls.

why not get in? why don't you endorse the other guy. people coming to me having the same conversation we are having here don't get in the race. i ended up winning the primary by 20. won the general election by 40. and in north dakota we are big trump country i voted to are him twice and campaigned for him both times. i have outpolled trump in my own state. i understand what those voters are looking for. >> laura: and, again, you are new to the national scene. i mean, i think most people, you know, don't know the governor of every state and certainly not the governor of north dakota as much as i love north dakota, it's beautiful. again, at some point, because you do love the country so much, unless you make a leap to the front of the pact, probably never happened in american politics, at some point you're going to have to make a decision you're going endorse biden or the guy who is going to be the nominee, which is probably going to be trump at this point or just say i'm not voting. what will you do the when the time comes. >> i have said all along i'm

going to be voting for the republican. i'm running against joe biden. joe biden's policies on the economy, energy, national security, 180 threes in the wrong direction. and, again, i have more business experience than the rest of the candidates on stage last night. i have created more jobs than everybody on the stage. i have been making payroll since my mid 20's which is more than any of the people on the stage have done. on energy, in north dakota we produce more energy than most opec nations and we have got a huge chunk of national missile defense and we are a border state. i had software being stolen from china when i was a kid in 1989 a software entrepreneur went to china went to a street market there was great plain software for a buck a disk. people are waking up in the last two months china. i'm the one that said our existential threat -- biden's climate policies are a huge threat but china is a huge threat. i think competition is great for the republican party and having someone talking about these issues that really matter, like national security, like border

security. >> laura: i agree. >> people are down there talking last night what they will do when they're president. i have actually got troops down there right now flying helicopter missions trying to stop transnational organizations trying to bring fentanyl into our country. we are doing the job. >> laura: governor, it is fascinating to watch both of you and vivek and a number of these other candidates who haven't gotten a lot of attention. i'm really curious to see where this all leads. we appreciate you and hope you come back soon. thanks so much. all right, anthony fauci had a secret meeting with the cia. we will tell you what that was about. plus, senator tom cotton has some thoughts about what happened last night and the future. ♪

she doing at the cia at the height of covid? information is suggesting he was escorted into the headquarters

without a record of entry and participated in the analysis to influence the agency's review of the origins of covid. this comes after a cia whistle-blower told congress researchers were offered money to influence their theories about the origins of covid. joining me now is tom cotton. people want to say we have to get over covid. no. what about this secret meeting? what was going on there? >> i hope he gets the information he needs. i can say i never saw any

intelligence one way or the other, but i don't think you needed intelligence at the time in february and march of 2020 to say this virus certainly came from a lab for which china still hasn't been responsible. we need to hold china responsible for unleashing this on the world. >> anthony fauci was hell-bent on stopping theory from gaining traction. we know that for a fact. what is going on? how involved was the united states with what may have turned into this out-of-control experiment looking for a vacci vaccine, for weapon research that could have ended up filling a lot of people? it doesn't look good. >> tony fauci was partly

responsible for tax dollars going to this lab. it continued after donald trump became president because tony fauci wanted to maintain relationships, keep money flowing. we need to get to the bottom of what happened and what he may have been doing to influence the quality of intelligence assessments about that lab. >> he has a net worth of $11 million. that is nice pocket change for someone in the federal government. >> not a bad nest egg for a bureaucrat. >> did you watch the debate last night? >> i saw the clips of it. i thought they did a good job. donald trump did a great job, pointing out owners and workers would have an easier time

getting a negotiating compromise if it was not for joe biden's electric vehicle mandate. >> the cia, the desire to advance, you have been on that from the beginning. thank you. that is it for us tonight. that was a spicy appearance from newt gingrich, telling everyone to drop out of the race and it is trumps. at some point people need to make decisio a >> carley: united autoworkers are set to