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>> the c.r. didn't pass, it's just like in life, if you quit after the first time, it's only a failure if you quit. >> we're in the middle of the republican civil war that has been ongoing for months, and now it threatens catastrophic government shutdown. >> got to stop the spending. it's bankrupting this great country of ours. >> any more time the speaker spends trying to cobble together far-right wish lists that can't even pass the house would be a grievous mistake. >> it's tame for republicans to top playing these games -- >> what my colleagues on the other side of the aisle are doing with blank checks, more borrowing, more taxing, for -- more spending, destroying the future of this country. that stops now. neil: shutdown on. well, the government shutdown is looking pretty inevitable right now, just 14 hours away potentially. right after midnight tonight, 3.5 million workers could be off the government payroll unless or

until congress can pass a spending plan. here's what we know right now though, house speaker kevin mccarthy is huddling with republicans. he's said to be fighting to keep his job as he pushes for a clean interim spending bill that could keep the government open for maybe a week, maybe two weeks, hard to say. and in two hours the senate will try and do the same, their own version of a fix to the mess when they gavel in. meanwhile, we'll talk to key players trying to hash all of this out. a liaison between the house and senate, republican senator mark wane mullen -- markwayne mullin. and michigan democratic congressman dan kildee on, well, if either party will pass thinking at all. and from a shutdown to a shake-up, robert f. kennedy jr. planning a run as an independent candidate? if you thinks that is concerning president joe biden, think again. why some republican candidates may also be worrying.

welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. happy weekend to you. as i said, the clock is ticking. let's go to aishah hasnie on capitol hill with the meeting that's going on and meetings to come and whether they can avoid lights out in washington d.c. >> reporter: hey, good morning, neil. that's right. here we go again. house republicans, the entire conference is actually in the basement below me in the capitol here right now huddling together and trying to figure out what in the heck they're going to try to put on the house floor today and vote on today to try to avert a government shutdown. there's our live look at this meeting happening right now. fox is told that gop leadership is floating the idea to put up a short-term spending bill 45 days or shorter that includes disaster aid but not ukraine funding and no border security. this would come up you should a suspension rule -- under a suspension rule which means you would need two-thirds of the members. that means you would need

democrats. again, that is only if the majority of this conference behind those closed doors can agree to this and are okay with this inside that meeting. now, if they are okay with this and they want to move forward, a vote could happen this morning or early afternoon, but some folks are already saying they're not happy with it. listen to this. if leadership brings it up, are there consequences? >> we'll see. but i'm not hopeful. you know, a clean c.r., that's what we were fighting existence all the time. nothing in it for the border? so, no. we'll see how it goes. >> reporter: we'll see how it goes. we'll see if leadership is going to leave behind these holdouts and move forward. this comes after 21 house republicans took down speaker mccarthy's attempt to pass a one-month stopgap bill yesterday. that included cuts in spending and border security measures. meantime, the senate is expected the take a procedural vote later today on a 45-day clean stopgap bill with ukraine funding.

mccarthy's been warning the senate, look, guys, the house is not going to accept that. >> i think if we had a clean one without ukraine on it, we could probably be able to move that through. i think if the senate puts ukraine on there and focuses ukraine over america, i think that could cause real problems. >> reporter: so whatever happens next, neil, is being decided right now in the basement of the capitol. neil? neil: thank you for that, aishah, very much. how is the president of the united states reacting to all of this? lucas tomlinson at the white house with more. hey, lucas. >> reporter: hey, neil. president biden speaking at the retirementer is ceremony yesterday for the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs of staff the, general mark milley, and offered the following warning -- >> if the house fails to fund government by tomorrow, we'll have failed all our troops, our service members who keep upholding their oath, showing up for work, standing sentinel around the world, keeping our

country secure. but they won't get paid. it's a disgrace. >> reporter: president biden is here at the white house this weekend no tout being kept up-to-date -- no doubt being kept up the date on the looming government shutdown. yesterday our colleague edward lawrence asked this key question in the briefing room: >> reporter: does the president bear think responsibility for a shutdown. >> >> absolutely not. and, by the way, the deal was to insure that we had a fiscally responsible plan. i think the name of the bill was the cities call responsibility act that saved a trillion dollars over a decade. >> reporter: taxpayers too will be impacted. national parks close, getting a passport could take a lot longer, reaching the irk are rs by phone -- irs and americans who rely on social assistance could also be denied. and some government workers like tsa agent, many protest over not getting paid, may call out sick in greater numbers potentially creating more chaos at airports nationwide.

now, officials say all government employees would receive back pay at the end of this potential government shutdown. of course, that's little consolation to americans around the country who are living paycheck to paycheck. we don't have ore mind our viewers, neil, who many are shocked every time they're handed a receipt. neil: indeed. lucas, thank you. representative troy knells kind enough to to join us u house freedom caucus member. how do you see it right nowing congressman? >> well, new york -- neil, what i see right now is the senate's not willing to work with the house of representatives. we have passed 4 appropriations bills. i know there's 12, we've passed 4. we passed defense, we as passed homeland security, we passed agriculture -- or we're work on agriculture. we as passed v.a., and chuck schumer has done nothing with them. matter of fact, we even passed faa reauthorization before we took our august break, and chuck schumer has done nothing with that. so what makes us think

anything's going to change? i'm a no on a c.r. because i can't in my right mind allow this administration to destroy this country, or destroy this country for another minute. neil: you know, it looks like the differences are so wide, congressman, that that they won't be settled in these final hours, so we are going to see the government shut down. routinely, that's happened a lot where a government shutdown for three days or more, i think, has happened better than ten times or a dozen times since 1977. but it's picked up period of late. and normally when they start this far apart, it goes on even longer. are you afraid a shutdown, if it comes to that, is going to be on a while? >> it very well could be. i think it was 35 days back in 2018 or 2019. neil: right. >> you know, what's interesting is we've got those that are saying i was one of the 21 shutting down the government, i don't want the troops to get

paid, i want the border patrol agents not to get paid. folks, let's be clear. we sent those appropriation bills over to chuck schumer. i highly recommend you get your house in order in the senate, pass those bills, get joe to sign it and 73% of all this discretionary spending will be taken care of. 73% of the government will remain open. but, chuck, go to work. neil: let me ask you, congressman, there are reports out there that the seeker is going to maybe work with democrats -- speaker is going to maybe work with democrats and bypass members maybe like yourself, sir, who he deems he can't win over. but if he does that, it would be very unpopular with those who are of your opinion, and you wouldn't want him around as speaker. is that true? >> well, what i do know is, listen, we went through 15 rounds back in january. kevin mccarthy was going to be the speaker of the house. i never doubted it. is this going to be enough momentum to change that?

my question is, is there anybody else in the republican conference that would get enough support to get the 2018? -- 218? i don't believe so. i just don't believe so. neil: so all it takes as you know, and part of the reason why he survived that vote, is his agreement where it could take just one member to say you've got to vacate the chair, you're outta here. do you think that is likely? do you know of any of your colleagues who, if he does push working on a deal that has democratic support, that that alone would prompt even one to say, speaker, you're no longer speaker? >> i'm going to make an assumption right now and say it may, it may. will you get to three or four to agree when you couldn't get the 218? the idea that we may ask for a clean c.r. right now for seven days, fourteen days may trigger that as well, especially if you're going to try to get democrats to support it. so, listen, kevin mccarthy has

an impossible job. his job is absolutely impossible today with the environment we have in washington d.c. but i have to stand firm. we gotta careen and drain -- clean and drain this swamp because it's a swamp, and it's deep. neil: you said clean and drain the swamp, and that reminded me of, you know, donald trump, who has been advise ising republicans to hang tough on this, hut town the government if it comes to that -- shut down the government if it comes to that. what do you think? >> i support donald j. trump. he's going to come back in 2024, he's going to win. he's going to come back, and we're going to close this place up. he just needs four more years to do it. neil: we'll watch closely. congressman, thank you very much for that. in the meantime, where we stand with this we hear a lot about this behind the scenes wheeling and dealing. they're leaning toward a clean 2-week interim spending bill, trying to get something, anything that could pass muster. and it might pass muster in the house. doesn't mean such a measure

would pass muster in the senate where they take away ukraine funding and the like. there would be no border security in such a measure, there would be no ukraine money in that measure. so that seems to be a no-go there. but it's all about peeling off at least the nos to get them to 9 from the 21 no no the gop was looking at on this earlier interim bill. again, all of this is moving pieces on a chess board here, and there's no guarantee that once you get that, you get what you want. but i mentioned before the perilous position puts kevin mccarthy in because he has said this interim measure is the best he can think of right now to get at leasts past the house. it would be dead on arrival, presumably, in the senate. but again, this is just a measure to survive another two weeks or so. there's a separate measure out there that would keep the government lights on until around november 17th. that is a whole other ball of works here and no guarantee that it can work. i might also posit here that this has been rattling the

financial markets. they lost not only the day, the week, the month, but the quarter as well, and it escalated when we had record that this latest interim approach by the speaker had failed. once the markets got wind of that in the middle of the trading day, they fell off even some more. markwayne mullin joins us right now, republican oklahoma senator, a key liaison between the house and the senate on these shutdown talks. senator, thank you for taking the time. >> thanks for having me on, neil. neil: senator, as i mentioned, the markets even were getting anxious about this thinking that a shutdown isn't only on, if one comes, it's going to last a while. what a does your gut say? >> well, we're doing everything we can to avoid the shutdown, neil. i do feel like if we do have a shutdown, it could last for a couple days until we get together. the only way i see that we get out of this thing is, honkly, a clean c.r -- honestly, a clean c.r.. there's no way schumer's bill is going to pass over here in the house, and nor do i blame them

for not passing it. a clean c.r. is probably do our bet. neil: are you angry at some of these more conservative -- not all freedom caucus members, but those who are sticking to their guns on this? they say this is, you know, continuing the kabooky theater, allowing spending after spending? where are you on that and on this hem? >> no, i agree with them. i agree e that we need to be cutting spending. i agree that we need to find a path forward to reduce spending without a doubt, and we've got to work do our to get the most conservative bill possible, but it's in the environment that we're many. we don't live in a perfect environment where republicans control both chambers and the white house. unfortunately, we do have to work with biden and schumer. i hate it but with we do. so the most conservative bill that some of these guys want is just not possible to get signed into law, so what's the best path forward for us. if their idea is great, they need to get it passed across the house with the votes, and that bill with also needs to get

passed in the senate and get signed by the president. if it can't get done, we need to switch gears and say what can get 218 in the house, 51 in the senate and get to the president's desk and get signed into law to keep the government open? that's our number one goal. i don't think there's any republican that disagrees on cutting spending. but we've got to be practical in the environment we work in. neil: i'm just getting the feeling the, senator, that there's a huge divide between republicans in the united states and those, of course, in the house. and they're embarrassed by what's going on in the house. >> no, i disagree with that, neil. neil: sure. >> i i disagree with that. that's ooh why i'm working between both chambers with, bringing the message that i can between both sides. i think we're all working really good together. i know senator thune and senator mccarthy is talking -- kevin mccarthy, speaker mccarthy is talking all the time to

really try to find the best path forward. and i think we really are, we're working good together. the only outlier we have in this whole group is probably matt gaetz who's always dinging this motion to vacate over kevin's head which isn't policy, it's not principle, it's just to get attention so he can self-promote himself. neil: all right. i would certainly put scott perry, your house colleague, in that camp. >> no. no, absolutely not. neil: he has concerns about this. i talked to scott perry a couple of days ago on where this is going. take a look. so it sounds like you're disappointed in the speaker. do you think he should be speaker? >> well, i think we should have gotten the bills done. like i said, it takes more than one personned to do that, but he wanted to be the leader, and he can't just be in charge. you have to lead. neil: all right. he was one of the softer voices on we had it with you, kevin

mccarthy. now, of course, you're in the united states senate, but this angst that's building against speaker mccarthy who could lose his job for just one angry member, what do you think of that? >> well, first of all, it's 218 to vacate the chair. not for kevin to lose his position. kevin's going to be speaker as long as he wants to be speaker. scott perry -- neil: i'm sorry, senator, one could get that process going. >> one could get the process going, but that doesn't mean one can get the vote. one has a great idea, but that doesn't mean you can get 218 to southern you. and scott perry, look, he's the chairman of the freedom caucus which bring withs forth a lot of good conservative bills. but remember, he also supported the bill they've been trying to get passed over here, and he had these outlie questioners -- outlier es. scott's a reasonable individual, and at the end of the day, he's just trying to get the most conservative bill he can get done, and the speaker's trying to get the best bill he can get signed into law.

we're just not rowing in the same direction. neil: assuming you can work past this, and you're quite right to point out we always resolve these things. some last longer than others, but the big fear is that the damage that it could to to the economy. i believe the last stoppage back in 2019 shaved about 22% off government gdp. hard to prove that, but there is that concern. and the white house now has immediately turned around and said whatever happens here, it's on remens. what -- republicans. what did you think of that? >> i totally disagree because kevin mccarthy could pass a clean c.r. for 45 days, he could also pass faa reauthorization and maybe disaster relief on this too, and he could get it done. but yesterday the white house told hakeem jeffries and the democrats, to not support -- do not support a clean c.r.. he wants to hold off for the schumer bill knowing it's dead on arrival. we were negotiating last night flying to get the white house, trying to get president biden to say let them support it.

they've got to bring it in suspension with a clean c.r., so it means it's going to be around 290 depending how many are here, so there's no way republicans can rote it themselves regardless. -- or can vote it themselves. they can message it however they want to, but if he wants to keep the government open, then the white house needs to tell the democrats to support a clean c.r, and how is that controversial? neil: all right, we'll follow it closely. you're burning the midnight oil well into the weekend, we'll see how that sortses out. thank you again. the senator from the beautiful state of oklahoma. he's acting as a key liaison in all of this. there aren't any weather liaisons but,ten man, oh, man, what we've experienced in the new york metro metropolitan area that i able fact concern affected 30 million or so in new york, connecticut, new jersey, a lot of digging out, a lot of flushing out through that. it's not entirely over.

katie byrne with the very late from brooklyn. how are things looking now? >> reporter: good morning, neil. well, things are definitely getting a little bit bettering but we still have some water on the roads here many brooklyn. this is park circle that gets you onto the prospect expressway. that was closed yesterday because it was submerged in almost a foot of water. still some water as you can see, system cars trying to get through right now but, oh, what a difference 24 hours makes. it was a mess here yesterday. streets and major highways here across new york city, especially in brooklyn and queens but also in northern new jersey, turned into rivers, and we had backups all day long on the roads. not much better on public transportation either. disruptions really lasted into early this morning. i'm hearing there are still some delays depending on if you're taking the train or the subway too. and now we're starting to see people cleaning up the mess. if you walk around this neighborhood, some of the residential blocks, you're to going to see furniture out front

of some of these basement apartments that got flood thed out. i have seen people using vacuums to suck water out of their cars too. johnny howell, i met him earlier, he lives in the area, and he's without hot water right now. he's just hoping his boiler still works and wasn't too much affect by the water. >> there's enough water that the water boil wither in the basement -- boiler, the drip alarm went off. so i'm going to have to find out if it shut it down or if we just shut the alarm. i do know from other neighbors that i talked to down the block that it's, they've had a massive amounts of water. >> reporter: now, an update from the new york governor, kathy hochul, this morning. the state of emergency in new york is going to stay in effect for another six days. she says that's going to allow her to suspend or bypass any barriers that could get in the way to deploy resources. but we know the weather is going to significantly improve really starting as soon as early hours of the overnight tonight.

so we've got a little bit of rain, but things are going the to start looking better soon, neil. neil: katie, thank you very much. a lot of people were saying everyone was caught off a guard in the new york area, but if you had the fox weather app and really long before the story, they're saying potential for severe flooding, i mean, it was right there. i don't use anything else. i heard that and said, oh, my god, a series of bad hair days. bottom line, they were ahead of this. a lot of public officials might have just wanted to take a peek at that app. apparently, they did not. all right, in the meantime, taking a peek at what could be a huge development in the political world. talk that robert f. kennedy jr. has had it with the democratic party and might run for president as an independent. we're on that after this. they're promises. big promises. small promises. cuddly shaped promises.

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♪ >> biden showed up on that picket line, but why are those workers actually there? it's because of all of the spending that he has pushed through in the economy that's raised inflation. >> it's caused by government spending. and that's why people all a acocross this country are suffering. >> bidenomics has failed. wages are not keeping up with with inflation. >> disastrous economic policies that have driven up prices, that have driven up interest rates and mortgage rates. at the same time, wages remaining stagnant. >> they borrowed, they printed, they spent and now you're paying more for everything. finish. neil: all right, it was a common theme in this past week's debate on fox business among the presidential candidates on the republican side minus donald trump, of course, that the economy is slowly sinking, and prices are rising, and it's all on joe biden. they're making that pitch in, of all states, california. ronald reagan the last republican to win that state

the, they think it's doable this go around. bill melugin in anaheim with more. >> reporter: good morning to you. california has 169 delegates on super tuesday. it's a big prize, and these gop candidates want in on it. some of them stuck around here in california after the debate. now they're here in anaheim after the convention, and they are fighting for those delegates. take a look at this graphic. former president donald trump, florida governor ron desantis, entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy and south carolina senator tim scott are all here speaking at this event though they are not expected to interact with each other. the convention comes as the california gop is finalizing a controversial delegate rule change that would transition california to a potential winner-take-all state which critics say would benefit trump. here's why. under the new rules, whoever gets more than 50% of the vote would get all 169 of california's delegates. if nobody got above 50%, the delegates would then be divided

up. desantis allies are blasting the change while the trump campaign supports it. here's what some of the candidates have had to say here. >> i will use all available powers to take the homeless, drug-addicted and severely deranged and get them off your streets so that law-abiding citizens can once again enjoy the parks and public spaces for which they're paying a lot of money in taxes. [cheers and applause] with all of the money we will save by ending mass illegal immigration. >> number one, if you're able-bodied in america, you work. [applause] number two, if you take out a loan, you pay it back. [cheers and applause] number three, if you commit a violent crime, you go to jail. [applause] and, number four, if god made you a man, you may sports against men.

>> you want to talk about the economy and the budget? we know that the inflation that we're suffering under is the result of borrowing, printing and spending over the last three and a half years that some trillions and trillions of dollars into the economy paying people not to work, doing all this other stuff. of course you are going to get inflation. >> reporter: and entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy will be speaking here at the convention at noon local time, neil. send it back to you. neil thank you, bill, very much. bill melugin on that. a potential earthquake in the political world that we'll get details on in the days ahead, and it concerns robert f. kennedy jr. take a look at this. >> we're going to have to rewrite the assumptions and change the habits of american politics. we're going to tap into a mighty surge of people power and reclaim an honest, peaceful, just and prosperous america. neil: all right. what he is teasing there is a

departure from the democratic party and a potential independent run for president of the united states. the fallout from such an announcement, mark penn, democratic pollster. mark, what do you think if that happens? >> well, look, we don't really know whether it's going to happen, what the potential is. look, i think they should have given him a debate. i think after a while he got kind of, it got under his skin that the president had all the power in the democratic party, and he wasn't getting a chance. so he's making this threat to go independent, you know? he's as well liked among republicans as democrats, oddly enough, as i see a lot on fox news. let's not get ahead of the skis. you know, obviously, if he was successful, he could pull more from democrats, and biden is not going to want that, but maybe they'll make a deal that will satisfy him in the democratic primary. neil: and that would be a debate, and then maybe you could ward off something like that. noel, i'm just wondering, that

is a traditional argument, that he would peel off votes from the president. but as mark also point out, he does appeal the independents, some of the very trump voters who find him intriguing. how would that split, do you think, if he were to run as a third party in. >> well, i think the problem lies in the fact that a lot of people do not want to see rematch of trump and biden. so you're going to have a lot of people that feel like there is another avenue or another pathway. not to say that,s you know, a third party candidate could win, but the sheer fact of peeling away votes from both platforms because you've got a lot of democrats who are the old guard democrats. they don't like the way the democratic party is going, and that is going to be a vote for kennedy. you've also got a lot of people that are very turned off with trump. not his policies. they like the policies, but the man himself. they feel like he's been, you

know, riddled with all these legal problems, so they might vote for him as well because you've got to remember back in the day when trump was running against, you know, or biden, a lot of people were just tired of trump. so a lot of -- will pull the lever for biden. and i don't think they really enjoy biden. now they've got a taste of biden, so they've got an alternative they might vote that way. but in the long run, i think it actually hurts the democrats because they're doing the same thing that the republicans are. they are in a fight for where their party's going. neil: you know, mark, we all think of ross perot in is the 92 who got 19% of the vote, and if you think about it, he was an in and out candidate having stay in the race, we don't know how that would have factored in. he did get 19% of the vote but not a single electoral vote. so it's an uphill climb. what do you think? >> i actually did ross perot's

benchmark. as you recall, in june he was at 39% -- neil: that's right. >> so, look, you look at the conditions in the country, and nobody's really fighting for the swing voters that i think you really need to fight for. everybody's this their camp, and and as long as everyone is in their camp and if both parties nominate both of these nominees that the majority of the country, you know, is unhappy with, there's going to be a big space there. and how is that space going to be filled? is it going to be a rematch or is something else going to happen? few people remember, actually, in lincoln in 1860, at that time the republican party was the third party. neil: that's right. i remember covering that. it was a very long and involved kind of coverage. thank you for that, guys. appreciate that. some of you are saying this is no way you cover abraham lincoln. yes, i did. all right, we've got a lot more coming up including the issue of crime, that has prison aren to americans' third biggest worry. gianno caldwell touched on it

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don't think it's a crisis with the crime thing anymore, take a look what happened this past week in philadelphia. just the latest. more incidents, and they keep piling up. gerri willis with more on that. >> reporter: philadelphia business district swarmed by scores of looters hitting stores like apple, lululemon. philadelphia police there saying they arrested 20 juvenile looters of 100 total looters. they say those attacks were coordinated. i'm here in harlem. over my shoulder is the target store, one of nine that target is closing by october 21st. and the reason why? well, you guessed it, it's theft. we talked to some of the folks shopping there, and they say they hate to see a store like this close, it's a real anchor of the community, but they've seen these attacks themselves, these thefts themselves, and they're not surprised. here's what the company says. we cannot continue operating these stores because theft and organized retail crime are threatening the safety of our

team and guests and are contributing to unsustainable business performance. the company also closing stores in seattle, san francisco, oakland and portland. and it's not like target hasn't tried to stop it. they've added additional security, they've even put a lot of the goods under lock and key, even goods that aren't very expensive. the news shared with target ceo brian cornell in the conferences call who told investors that in the first five months of the year, thefts that involved threats of violence are up 120%, and the company lost $219 million its third or quarter to theft. and, of course, target is far from being alone. so many retailers complaining about theft, what they call shrinkage. the national retail federation saying in a recent study that as much as $112 billion overall were lost to theft last year. that's up from $94 billion in the previous year. the nrf says the situation is

getting even more dire, not better, so a long way to go on this story. neil, back to you. neil: yeah, to put it mildly. gerri willis following all of that. stealing big screen tv thes is one thing, losing human beings is quite another. who knows that better than my friend and colleague gianno caldwell who has been taking that case and the total craziness of that case and why we don't respond to the severity of it. he had a chance to address the house judiciary field hearing this chicago this past week. gianno, how did that go? >> well, first, before we even get into it, neil, i cannot thank you personally enough for conning to shed light on what's -- continuing to shed light on what's been a tragedy that has impacted my family to the very core, the losing of my brother on june 24th of last year. my innocent, teenage baby brother christian being murdered and so many others who have been murdered. and you continued, out of anyone, to help shed light on

that issue. and i can report from june 23rd when i talked to you about this and i asked for the fbi to get involved, i can now report to you that the fbi, chicago field office, the leadership there, i've spoken with hem multiple times, they're fully involved in the investigation of my brother's murder. so i can, again, not thank you enough, neil. now, speaking of the substance of the event, ooh i'm so thankful that chairman jim jordan and chairman biggs for bringing a congressional committee here to chicago because the elected leaders here refuse to do their jobs. it is so necessary for us to have a republican majority in the house, and i've worked on this all of last year using my voice, going out thanks to the fox news family, being able to talk to folks about violent crime and what now-speaker mccarthy said he was going to do as a result of winning the majority. they are doing. so the substance of the conversation, i mentioned a

number of law, i think, that can be funded to reduce recidivism. i think that we can use the power of the purse around doj grants that local elected officials with get for those who don't want to take on their first and most important duty for any elected official which is the protection of its citizens. money should be pulled back because they're not using them for their intended purpose. so there's a number of issues, i think, on the table. they're going to be having these hearings across the country, and thank god for jim jordan and the committee for doing this because democrats, simply puts are endangering the lives systematically of chicagoans and all across the country in a lot of these blue cities. and that's what it is, and it's unfortunate, but we certainly need the power of the purse in congress to change the dynamic here. neil: you know what's wild about it, gianno, the blue cities remain blue and under blue control even in the face of these crime waves. we've seen it again in one of these big cities after another, chicago, you know, of course where you tragically lost your

brother. nothing changes. does that -- why is that? you'd think whether you were democrat, republican, conservative or liberal, it's not working and the crime is still rampant, that you'd be open to say there's got to be some better with way to do this. >> well, i don't know why the insanity continues and why they think it's okay if you just look at the numbers. overall crime in chicago, according to fox news, up 33%. philadelphia, 29.4%. portland, 19.5 president. -- %. seattle, 15. we are a country under siege right now, and why won't the elected officials in those blue cities hear the screams and the cries for justice that many people that i've met since i've been on this journey, why won't they listen to those voices? i have no idea. but who is listening? jim jordan and his committee. so what i want to focus on is the people who are willing to provide solutions, not those who are continuously ignoring those who scream for justice. we have to change the reality

that exists in the city of chicago and across the nation. and whoever's willing to pick up the baton and do that, or i'm willing to work with them because christian's legacy must mean something. and that's what we did this week having these conversations in chicago. because the elect officials refuse to listen although kim fox did respond to me saying she's sorry for my loss. thank you for your sympathies but no thanks. we need the thousands of people who scream out for justice to have justice for their families and criminals to be held accountable. neil: gianno, i have a feeling more politicians are listening and right now so is christian. >> thank you very much, neil. neil: we'll have more after this.

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starts doing the same with amazon, there's a bit of a pile-on going on here. susan li has much more on that. susan. >> reporter: second ftc lawsuit in just about three months, so forget elon musk versus mark zuckerberg, the ftc versus amazon might be the real cage match this tech. and this time finishing tc chair lina khan accusing america's largest online retailer of using illegal, predatory tactics to from protect a monopoly online, ultimately hurting 100 million shoppers and tens of millions of american families. >> this case is ultimately about competition and competition that has been foregone because of amazon's unlawful tactics as complaint lays out. as a result of that, people are paying higher prices, right? consumers are paying more than they otherwise would, small businesses are having to pay a 50% amazon tack. >> reporter: sellers only get to keep 1 out of every $2 they get -- make on amazon, bullied

into following tough rules according to the lawsuit and that includes anti-discounting measures that punish retailers for selling elsewhere, they force ad spending, biased search results and added seller fees. amazon says if the ftc wins, there would be fewer products to choose from, higher prices, slower deliveries for customers. also remember that amazon's now a $1.3 trillion giant, second largest u.s. private employer with 1.5 million employees, biggest cloud provider with aws, and the ftc under lina khan has so far either sued or investigated virtually every big tech company including microsoft, amazon, facebook, apple and, yes, or even elon musk. but so far on the losing end of recent high profile cases. back to you. neil: all right. susan, thank you very much. meanwhile, i don't know if you're a jets fan out there -- okay, so you're not. bottom lineing they are getting

an enormous amount of attention for tomorrow night when they take on the quiets chiefs -- kansas city chiefs, and i wish i could say it was for the jet es, but it's about someone in particular who'll be watching the game from the game. i'll give you a hint it's taylor swift. ♪ promise that you'll never find another like me. ♪ i'm the only one of me ♪

♪ neil: all right, that was swift, as in taylor swift. see what i did there? ticket sales for the big game tomorrow night with the kansas city chiefs and the new york secrets getting undue interest here -- new york jets, having a lot to do with the fact that taylor swift will be in the stands, seats that can get a good view of the sky box in which she'll be watching travis

kelce, the chiefs' tight end. they've become an item. allie green joins us, matt napolitano, fox news headlines 24/7 anchor extraordinaire. high expectations because taylor swift will be there, and now this is carrying on a life of its own. is this a weekly development now? >> yeah, let's hope so is. i mean, there's this economic effect anywhere taylor goes, she boosts excitement. you know, it's gotten down to she was eating chicken fingers with possibly ranch and keep chuff, and they have a special limited edition brand of ketchup, it's amazing. neil: all right. you know, i have great respect and admiration, but that's one step too far for me, to try that. matt, what do you make of this? a lot of people say, oh, this is all staged, it's not real. but it is what it is. enter. >> yeah, you know, or right now it's, actually, everything the

nfl could hope for, you know? they're taking advantage of the social media giant that is taylor swift. nfl taylor's version right after that chiefs/bears game drew a huge audience for fox, and it was a blowout game. the chiefs demolished the chicago bears. they actually pulled away from it in the new york market and still had record high ratings for it. the fact of the matter is this is a cash cow, a great grab for the nfl, and you definitely want to ride it out. and, frankly, if you're in the new york -- the new york jets, after what happened with aaron rodgers, now you have nbc using welcome to new york in their commercials calling it a taylor-made sunday night matchup, it's all working out in favor of the league latching on to the market and the phenomenon that is taylor swift and the crazed fan base. and and i say that with so much love because i'm married to a swiftie. neil: well plaid, my friend. -- played, my friend. i understand the jets are are

not favored to win, so i'll leaf that aside is, but i do know that the nfl loves it because it's drawing women into watching football and, obviously, this tilts, you know, young malings. so that could be changing -- males. but as soon as she stops going to the game, isn't that over? if. >> well, we'll see. maybe they can hold on to their fan base. i mean, a lot of women have come, but, you know, it's been revealed that a lot of men are swiftieses too. so the excitement a's -- neil: wow. wait a minute. she's no adele. what's the draw -- >> oh, there it is. [laughter] neil: come on. adele's too busy in vegas. so where does this go, guys? finish that thought, allie, but it seems like this is carrying on. i could see her doing this every week, following the chiefs and their games. where does it go? >> i don't know. first of all, they're never going to get rid of the taylor swift and nfl -- for the game. everyone's doing the play-by-play. neil: i hear you. >> are they going to make it

pass the 50, all this -- [laughter] [audio difficulty] neil: i gotcha. we're having some sound difficulties with you. but, matt, so you're with the jets as a 10-point favorite, right in. [laughter] >> look. a long suffer or, they're going up against a team with two super bowl rings the last four years, fact of the heart is this one's looking like a good one for the chiefs. and as for going forward, you know, you've got to remember, taylor swift is a busy woman. coming up this month, they're going to have the eras tour concert film, he's going back out on the road, and we'll see them in a getaway car. neil: all right. we'll watch it closely. we need taylor swift in washington, d.c., maybe she could get these guys to come together, make a deal. so far, no deal. more after this. t just shipment. they're promises. promises of all shapes and sizes.

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