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>> hello, i am jason chaffetz, nicole saphier, jimmy jones and sara carter. the "big weekend show" is happening right now. tonight we are watching capitol hill where the senate will vote on a short-term spending bill to keep the government open. if something happens, we will bring it to you. earlier a wild moment during the chaos among congress. progressive squad member congressman jamaal bowman pulled the fire alarm. about this obstruction? that's coming up but first, the big story is the high power of psychedelics. research not mastered magic mushrooms and other drugs like mdma is a reliable treatment for ptsd and depression. now congress is given the go-ahead for the defense department to do psychedelic medical clinical trials to treat active duty military and veterans.

>> i can personally attest to the benefits and treating posttraumatic stress through the use of psychedelic substances. as a stigma within the body and i believe stems from lack of education experience clinical use of psychedelic medications. it is not about legalization, it's not about recreational use, is honoring our promised military families confronting high incidence of suicide in the military and veteran community. we have a crisis in the idea we wouldn't research potential breakthrough treatments is unacceptable. the status quo is in adequate. >> this is just the latest sign using psychedelics to treat a variety of conditions is becoming more mainstream. from elon musk who earlier this year confessed to micro dosing ketamine to manage depression. to prince harry who used psychedelics to deal with grief and trauma from his mother princess diana's death. to nfl quarterback aaron rodgers

who touted the benefits to his mental health. >> one of the tenets of your mental health. that's what it did for me, work on my mental health and to have an experience like that. >> a lot of good points made. i want to go to you, joey jones. you served our nation. i think a lot of people on the surface will look at this and say well, this is so different, i don't know i can accept this, what you think people should know? >> people see this and think you're trying to get high, doing lsd or something and it's about an out of body experience and recreational way. the first thing like morgan sa said, this is not recreational and the other thing, if we assign prozac, zoloft and different synthetic drugs and

think it's okay and acceptable but you don't want to try the medicine that's worked for lawyers in this world for thousands of years, there's a whole array in each psychedelic or mdma affects the brain different. there's everything from what's legal in the country, religious exemption or hiawatha to going to another country and do something -- a tree bark that's very, a rough show but what this does is allows you to confront suppressed memories. the best way to explain, i was on an ied blast, the guy beside me died. it's probably back in the head, it bothers me. what happens with the hallucinogen, i may have him sit across the table with me and have a combination with him while i am listening but what's really happening is my mind is being challenged to confront the suppressed memory and work through it so what he says back to me is what i already have in my mind, i'm not allowing myself

to think through it and that's how the treatment is supposed to work and i can tell you, personally, i know dozens of veterans who have gone through it and the reason why people are so passive about it, many veterans will do it once, one time and it gets them to a better place they don't need to do it again and is not recommended to do it over and over. take a pill bottle everyday the va is fine with that but god forbid you go to a tree retreat and somebody does it with you and use nature's medicine and baby get through it. >> doctor saphier, there are a lot of people in the medical community suggesting this might work, is it worthy of testing in the military? >> joey did it excellent job of laying out to understand and he's right, psychedelic drugs have been used for decades. they were used for ptsd, tbi until 1985 when the fda put restrictions on. since then we have normal research on the use of psychedelics but with the research we do have, it showed promise when it comes to

treating ptsd. tbi as well as stroke and other things. when we talk about the devastating this specifically in our military, ptsd, when you look at standard treatment, ssri psychotherapy, less than 40% seek full permission. that's not where we want to be when we try to treat service members. the limited studies we do have, psychedelics different than ssri and they have shown great benefit over the 5% of people seeing a benefit. this is not about recreational use, it's not about you give a pill bottle to these veterans and they do it on their own. they do it in controlled situations in collaboration with psychotherapy and there is huge promise. one of the big concerns i have, there was a study earlier this year that showed from the nih alone, we waste about 100

million taxpayer dollars on money that goes to research and it's wasted on administrative blow or whatever it may be. it needs to be heavily regulated because veterans require access to quality healthcare and i don't want to see a penny of this go to waste. >> one of the veterans other is represented "fox & friends", let's listen to him and the concerns out there. >> some of the problems so far getting this through, have been your product. the bureaucracy doesn't want to deal with it because it's edgy, difficult and it makes them do work so we will keep pushing it. >> what's your take on what he's saying? is scares a lot of people because they are called psychedelics, they think of the 60s. >> is a negative connotation since the 60s and people are afraid, afraid they don't want veterans to become an experiment, they don't want to see people experiment to on, they want this to be solid science and i think we know it

does help. my husband is a veteran wounded in afghanistan, i understand joey what you're saying because we have friends that have gone through similar treatment and it's changed their life. there's a whole array of treatments coming out that utilize the same psychedelics but they are treated differently, done in a different setting, more a medical setting and medicinal. we are not taking people to the mountains saying there's some mushrooms, go crazy. there is a method to how it's done and with all suicides we've been seeing especially the rise in suicide with veterans, we have to do everything. that i do believe and i think congressman crenshaw is right. we made a promise to them. they gave everything for us and we made a promise to them we would do the same and we need to. >> if it's done in a responsible way, make sure we are given the

best treatment, maybe this is the solution. straight ahead, he didn't start the fire but pulled the fire alarm. >> jamaal bowman pulls a fire alarm while the boat was happening. this is unprecedented. >> that's a new low. watch how people have been treated if they come something wrong in his capital. it's interesting to see how he's treated and what he was trying to obstruct. >> is in this what real obstructions looks like? squad member jamaal bowman's sneaky move as of that was taking place in congress and is wild! it coming up next. ♪

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would do the trick. house republicans marjorie taylor greene pointed out bowman violated the same law being used to prosecute january 6 writers. >> want to talk about jamaal bowman pulling the fire alarm, capital police are questioning him right now because it's on video. this -- he violated the same law january 6 defendants are being prosecuted for every single thing. he violated same law interrupting an official proceeding by pulling the fire alarm -- >> we had a couple congressman quick to take in to weigh in, we had congressman troy will pulling up a pair of gloves. are you ready. [laughter] >> do we have a full screen to show? maybe not. we also have brian mask who put up next to each other door and a

fire alarm just to make sure congressman bowman knows the difference between the two. first of all, marjorie taylor greene made valid points, was this illegal? the sense that at minimum, it's a misdemeanor in d.c. area to pull a fire alarm if you are not concerned of a fire. at most, you also have reduction of proceedings which is what you are seeing on january 6. what's your take? >> i worked in the and walked up a lot of steps just to get to a door. i was number in time sometimes, all of the work get there. i was number in such unfinished to get the door open i used a fire alarm for the door handle so i don't know, he's obviously trying to lie his way out of this i think i can say with

certainty he pulled it on purpose and duty to obstruct happening. i just hope hakeem jeffries is so mad that it, he gets handed within a reporter who was able to catch up jamaal bowman and this is what was said. bowman said was rushing to make a vote, trying to get to a door, about the alarm would open the door and the reporter ask, you will learn to open the door? bowman -- yes. how does that make sense? bowman -- what do you mean? reporter -- when have you ever pulled a fire alarm? file on it. i was just trying to get my vo vote, the door that usually open wasn't open and i didn't mean to cause confusion, i did note -- i did no, i didn't know. jason, you were in congress,

what is your take? >> sounds like an idiot. [laughter] let's put that picture back. if you look behind the congressman, there are clear doors with push handles. they may have said don't open, because the fire alarm to go off, it would achieve both, it would open the door and caused the fire alarm but he's got his hand up, i want to see a picture what's going on but he should be treated, he went out there like everybody else said nobody is above the law. if you didn't have that little him on his coat that says congressman, that person probably would be charged with interrupting a government proceeding. that's exactly what he did in the case. critical time to vote. we've got hours until funding runs out and the whole government, the entire building had to be evacuated. police were called, fire department called something's got to happen, there's got to be consequences. >> it's on the heels of the democrats saying they want more time before the boat so i do know, i'm not about that story but kevin mccarthy, house

majority leader is saying there should be ethics investigation. >> i think ethics look at this is serious, this should not go without punishment. this is an embarrassment. you are elected to be a member of congress. he pulled the fire alarm in a minute of hours before the government being shut down trying to dictate government would shut down. what's going through a person's mind like that? >> sarah bowman was a former school principal. how do you think he handled if the students pulled a fire ala alarm, he's like okay, if someone is caught smoking in the bathroom or doesn't want to take the test, i know, pulled the fire alarm and that's what he did. >> he learned from the best, his students and now he's taking it all the way up to capitol hill. i have to say, there was a little sense of humor in this because the democrats have been riding the high horse lately saying look at the republicans, they are fighting in the back,

you got that gate and the speaker behind the scenes ready to throw blows, everybody is upset on the republican side and now you got democrats will have to look at jamaal bowman and be like zero well, you did this to us right now at the very end? it's a little humorous and i like the way the speaker laid it out like pulled the fire alarm? just the way the speaker does that, mccarthy is so nonchalant about it but this is definitely an eye-opener for the american people about what is going on so anybody out there, any american who feels to put the best of the best in congress, this is an example of -- >> everybody feels that way. >> amazing. >> i don't know where he got that from. >> now we have here evidence of this.

>> jason, former member of congress, what is your take on what mccarthy is saying about the investigation there could be ethics investigation. republicans -- >> or the charges he brought, obstruction -- >> the got to make sure we don't jump to the conclusion, it's an opportunity for republicans to show the adult in the room and do an investigation. if he did it, they should be charged and there should because it was. >> he already said he did. i didn't -- >> do you remember the official response was from his staff that said he was running quickly and it wasn't an accident which obviously -- >> if he text i'm not going to get there, i'm going to pull the fire alarm, that's where an investigation is, look at your cell phones, what did you say to your staff? hakeem jeffries tell you to cause a scene? after the investigation is. i would love to see accountability, this is a little

funny, is a lot of ironic but the speaker has been walking around as a man defeated for a couple of days, i do know you will make it to christmas as speaker. our government won't shut down but it's going to be funded plus, there's a lot going on up there. i don't know this is what i want to focus on, i didn't care to hear the speaker talk about it because i want to know -- i don't know if it's 20 some odd republicans objecting to everything he puts forth, i want to see he can lead and get them together on ukraine or something to bring them back together and have a party or caucus in congress. >> absolutely and he's facing criticism so you are right. the speaker needs to get back on the horse, unify republican party and find a way to appease those going up against him and i don't know if he will be able too but -- not all of them and that's it. i think the american people are watching taking place and they will make their decisions. >> they are watching a complete

embarrassing chaotic disaster happening in congress and the senate, it's embarrassing. >> i do think the if anybody will pull an alarm, let's do it on the border. >> such a great. >> coach dion prime time sanders is it stooping down to the haters. >> i don't believe in that, i don't condone that. it's for me, it doesn't make me put you down. >> coaches mission beyond the gridiron coming up next. ♪

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weekend show". we've been having fun here during the break. colorado universities dion sanders says he's the greatest coach in college football and celebrities were in the state today to see the magic again. not sure if today's 48 -- 41 loss helps his case but one thing is for sure, coach is shaking the ncaa. here's his message to the hate haters. >> bothers me is they can't help but expose themselves even when someone says he's doing -- whatever. i promote my team and my young men and the coaches facilitating our system and everything we have and accomplishes that. it is it makes me high too but you low, it doesn't do that. >> that's right. i love message, his -- he's crowded and standing up for what he believes in and by the way, he's the only athlete to win to super bowls and make an

appearance in the world series. i think that's awesome. what do you think? >> is one of the best athletes that ever went through the system. i love coach prime, i'm attracting, they were terrible last year. the university of colorado to bring him in as coach, his message is conservative, self-determination. you got to make yourself -- his message of stop lying to kids, be truthful, i love it. i think he's an inspiration to a lot of people and there is a reason why literally millions are watching his games and attracted to the program and they are winning. they lost today against a good usc team by seven points but he's lighting up the board and more important, inspiring a lot of kids to be better people and that's good. >> i don't think it's a race thing, what you think? the haters do come out and people are always going to try to slam someone on top but i believe this is good for

everyone, it's good across the board for everyone. >> he's an embodiment for this change in the landscape of college football, a couple things happen. players are allowed now to use her name, image and likeness to earn money and sponsorship and they want life to be for. as impute was a big college football program and they were doing was allowed now in their football team got what's called the death sentence in the 80s and is taking them for years to come back so it's always a big deal and the tradition of college football to keep things amateur and trying to earn opportunity in the nfl and paying for playing, you get your scholarship. the university of georgia target by earning tv rights and getting to the conference. he got hundreds of millions coming to the teams, how can you tell the kids they can't sign a jersey and make $100? dion sanders comes in and rather than being the coach there to shepherd his team as this change happens, he comes in with the change, he is the change did not only is he okay with it, he's

going to get your best player because they can transfer schools and get your best play player. that's his personality and what he's bringing. it threatens everyone. the other side is he comes into colorado and addresses the team and goes coming bringing my louis baggage with me. he tells the kids of committed to the university and the university is committed to them, you probably don't have a spot because you're not good enough because they one one games last year so embracing this new culture comes how he's doing it that rubs others wrong. >> you mean not everybody gets a trophy and i'm going to go to you, nicole. i want you to hear these headlines and respond. here's axios in the kansas city star among those calling the university of colorado football team black america's team. they are calling it black america's team. i think this is america's team. i'm proud of them and i'm thinking they are proud, they don't have a problem but this is about america's team.

>> i don't understand why we continue to inject race into every topic we talk about, i was reading statistics on cu, 1% of the population is black so i don't think we could adequately named this as black america's team first of all. the one thing i did have a problem with, i like a lot of his message and the fact that he's trademarked, it's personal which is the opposite of the godfather, it's business, not personal while he he's like it is personal and i feel the same way. one thing i don't love is as you mentioned, he says he's bringing his luggage and he did. he ejected a good portion of the existing players on the team and maybe it's just because i am mom and had a child go to college, are they still learning, bettering themselves in college for that nfl position?

>> is a business. >> he's not going to tout himself as the best coach because he's not actually coaching those kids, he's just saying you're out, i'm bringing in new people. >> his son is the quarterback rolls-royce. >> he's doing deals. >> tom brady on those glasses. >> by the way, the college is making a lot of money, they want this. >> the kids don't get a cut of the college money, they are just able to find their own money n now. on this black america's team, before he was there, he was at jackson state university, historically black college and university and he got the number one kid in the country, number one recruit to go to the small school and he caused such a stir, a turned college football on his head. >> and that's important getting someone like me interested in college football is a big win when. to learn more, check out who is dion sanders?

coming up, colder temperatures are coming but the white house clamping down on gas furnaces to push it green dream. biden's beef with home appliances going to the extremes next. ♪

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♪ [laughter] >> welcome back to the "big weekend show", my favorite songs there. the biden administration's war on appliances heating up. first the gas stoves, remember when democrats and the media said nothing to see here? >> i do think it's funny, the other republican meltdown for they are like can take my gas stove or my cold dead hands. this is a decision what may be sold and regulations in the far future. okay? >> the right wing freak out over the use of gas stoves is the latest in a long series, designed to enrage their paranoia based. >> they also wanted us to spend this week talking about kitchen appliances. the phony narrative joe biden

and democrats want to take away gas stoves, nothing could be further from the truth. >> now it's furnaces. the big one keep things that heat our homes. the biden administration with new regulations to reduce greenhouse gas emissions but the new rules could mean of the 60% of people, they've got to get new furnaces in the home, that means spend money to save money. i know you've read up on this, this is incredibly interesting, what did you learn? [laughter] replacing your furnace in your home. >> i did have to do some action to understand the differences in what we are talking about so i'm going to break it down simply. this is simple math conversation so what they are saying, have to switch to more energy-efficient furnaces called condensing boilers which recycles heat as to non- condensing boilers which

don't. they are more energy efficient and much more expensive. anywhere from two to $7000 so they say by 2028, all of the furnaces need to be these condensing furnaces. that's fine but when you compare it to non- condensing furnaces which are less energy-efficient, they have less expensive from 1000 to 5000, that's a substantial difference when it comes to the american household especially with the way costs are so they said they are looking at everything and they think the energy savings once you put these in will save people $57 a year once they have this in on their energy bill. i said that $50 a year, you have to add a lot of those years to pay the difference. who's going to pay for it? what about people who can't afford to pay their heat? >> it doesn't just cause manufacturers, to never government relation to hurt

industry and this time the industry that produces, let's go through the list, we should have a graphic. water heaters, dishwashers, air conditioners, washing machines, refrigerators -- they are looking beyond that, things like dehumidifiers. battery chargers, all kinds of things we use in our homes under this green new deal initiative. i want to bring this other thing up, the number of things they are looking at. more than one tenth appliances or things we use in our home, 110 taken or proposed to crack down on how we find comfort. >> it's crazy, i was in detroit recently, the united autoworkers were out on strike. i'm talking to americans working on the line at the ford plant living paycheck to paycheck some of them and say this is insane,

we have inflation, we can't afford groceries, i go to the grocery store and i'm like, i cannot believe how much milk cost and how much meat has gone up. now they are telling us, hugh explained the wealth that we are going to have to replace our furnaces with high energy efficient appliances and it's like a war on our freedom and our ability to choose what's best for our families and the industry. you also brought up what it's going to cost for manufacturers. it's going to cost a lot and what does that and with? us losing jobs in america. >> jason, i want to go back to that montage we will show but they are saying republican's are making this up, it's not even a thing. look what they are doing and i want you to explain where they are coming from because they got 12 months now to figure this out and we know what will happen the next 12 to 15 months. twelve months to come up with proposals and stone reviewing

and then it doesn't go into effect as a policy until 2028. my mouth tells me joe biden is trying to get elected in the next year end if he did, this wouldn't come into place until the end of his next term so is the truth they aren't serious they are just trying to keep the green new deal folks close? >> i think they are deadly serious. the montage we heard from aoc to jeffries thank you don't know what you're talking about. jen psaki mocking people from the podium. they purposely said there's nothing to see here meanwhile they work on the rule having that process because they want to implement this regardless. >> it's not going to happen, i don't see -- >> aoc is getting a lot of social media time. >> we will keep the room up but the gas furnace. alligators and ballgames and sneaking dogs on airplanes. our people getting too emotional

about their emotional support animals? i say yes. we will have that discussion. ♪

♪ welcome back to the "big weekend show". our emotional support animals making people to emotional? >> here we are, home of the philadelphia phillies, emotional support alligator while he is here but unfortunately, phillies won't let them in? >> security will not let them in. >> it's clear people are going too far with their emotional support animals especially on planes. a couple got a refund in airline after they were forced to sit next to a stinky dog on a 13 hour flight. joe rogan brought this to our attention, he is that of with emotional support animals.

>> she brings this dog and she's sitting there eating and the dog is on the floor like you might drop your fork and wipe off in the dog rubbing on the ground right there. somehow they can get a note from the doctor that says they are to week to exist without this dog with them 24 hours a day. >> obviously we know people with certain disabilities, visual disabilities, hearing disabilities and others, service dogs have done tremendous things for them should has it gone too far? it seems to expand to people who just like their pooch on their lap. >> absolutely. on huawei the alligator, his problem is he's an alligator living in l.a. [laughter] that's his number one problem. number two, when i was in congress we have this, because there were people bringing pigs, peacocks, many horses on planes and the airlines were out of control. they can control is an pull it back further if they wanted to. there's a different with

somebody who is blind and needs a service dog in a rich person who's got to have her fluffy sit on her lap and everybody gets experience that. >> my husband was blinded in afghanistan and he will say on completely blind, i'm just completely blind so when i'm not with him, he needs danny and you can see danny with him in this picture and danny is amazing. we give him a bath before he gets on a plane but i've got a bone to pick with joe rogan and there is danny as a puppy. it takes two years to train these dogs to get them to where they can be with the family. she's not a service dog, i think they popped up my little sheep who robbed our ribs of the dinner table. that's a dog you do not want to take on a plane but these dogs take two years to train before they give them -- there she is. before you take two years to train them and bring them to the veteran or somebody who is legally blind and they are the

eyes for that person, service dog and it is frustrating when people have dogs and they are not really meant for an actual service and they are just bringing them into restaurants and it gives every dog in that name. >> that's what joe rogan was talking about. an emotional support animal, there's no certification for that. as a matter of fact, there is no certification for any of his dog the government hands out license says this dog is certified to be a dog of service, emotional support so there are a dozen or more organizations out there, some rescue dogs and some take dogs in service and turn them into emotional support dogs, no standard across the country and if a dog is command train, is declared emotional support and you feel you are protected to take it anywhere. i see veterans over and over, they have symptoms of ptsd or depression and the work it takes to get to the root cause and

maybe get to a better place like our pharmaceutical companies do, goodwill people with these organizations want to treat the symptoms and a service dog so you don't get upset. programs with that's come through in the dogs becomes debilitating to come to the program and the responsibly of taking care of the dog and adds to the stress and anxiety and too many people are embracing the idea of having an emotional support dog without doing the research understanding pros and cons and who actually needs one could use one or benefit from want and who it makes their life worse. >> we need to make it clear between emotional support dogs and actual service dogs. >> servers dogs provide a service. >> emotional support or just a family pet. >> i'm okay with it. big weekend flops coming up next. stay tuned. ♪

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than water alone. and, liquid labs is delicious, easy to use and affordable. rush to walmart and find liquid labs in the vitamin aisle. welcome back to the big we can show. it is time now for the big weekend flops. our picks for the biggest veils of the week. i will go first. the border crisis hits a new record. sources telling fox news more than 260,000 border apprehensions took place this month. that's the biggest monthly total ever on the record i can attest to that i spend a good portion of my time at the border.

i've been covering the border for nearly 20 years i've been there i've seen thousands of people come across. but we are seeing now at the border is unheard of pretty want you to think about the people who got away. these are the hypertension these do not include the numbers of people that made it into the country that were never apprehended or never had an encounter border patrol. click to border patrol gather completely overwhelmed. they are not getting the support they need and how they will potentially start working without pay if there was to be a government shutdown. we have a lack of respect for the border patrol they're working so hard for us it's really upsetting. >> absolutely pretty quick something a little more important here this is what we are 2023. seemingly a half naked woman waiting for her flight for a flt airlines in fort lauderdale this week. looks like she forgot to pack her pants. she does not have pants on she's not wearing pants or buses hanging out i thought to walmart we go to see this crazy stuff. there's accounts to go look it

up. but not spirit airlines it is the airlines and the airports were quite do not know the world is coming to progress is too bad she did not have an emotional support animal to cover her up she would've been just fine. >> was going to the senate that would've been acceptably took away their dress code no shirt, no shoes no problems but no pant? >> i got to bring my daughter to the airport don't make me explain things to her she's not old enough to learn about, jason when ywhat you got? rex new york city professor who threatened to chop like "new york post" reported with a machete a real bad story. it hahas landed a new seeking teaching gig at us like a at a y college. another incident she was on video cursing out of threatening andthreatening a group of pro-le students. you threaten someone with their likely take a machete to someone start they greenlight you and hire you at a new school to teach kids. >> you guys and member of those? she turned her table over on

those kids. reported up to interview her about what she did she come to the door like i'm going to cut you progress we have district attorneys that don't want to bring charges against anyone of people getting away with this all across the country. the crazy thing is there's a school that hired her for. >> thank you that's a question i wondered why it would bring attention to the school that feels this is a good fit to educate our children. our education system is already the crapper as it is now this is who were bring in for children? i don't think so. >> breach of the leg at the airport was a professor to protect up doctor anthony fauci had a secret meeting with the cia about the origins of covid-19 in the letter on tuesday to the department of health congressman brad of ohio claim dr. fauci played a role in the agency's review of the origins of the pandemic was invited to agency headquarters to participate in the probe. thus not the most concerning part of this. there's that whistleblower actually saying some people who

said we think it could possibly have been a lab leak theory they are offered monetary compensation to change their vote. now again this is not confirmed. i am very, very interested to see how this turns out. if that is true,. >> they lied to t lie to the amn people. senator rand paul has done a stellar job of trying to bring to the forefront. i believe doctor anthony fauci has lied very. >> i need you guys attuned into bart we might get to talk about this more. i want to give you a reminder you and catch us on x that used to be to integrate facebook big weekend show an instagram big we can show fnc per that's going to do it for us tonight. thank you guys for tuning in ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪