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jene harris: opening statements kicking off in the civil fraud trial against former president donald trump and the former president has shown up in person as we saw him this morning head-to-head encountering new york attorney general leticia james. you are watching "outnumbered," i'm harris faulkner, here with my co-host kayleigh mcenany. with us host of kennedy saves the world, kennedy. fox news contributor tammy bruce and douglas murray. the new york attorney general who campaigned ongoing after trump says nobody is above the law. >> donald trump and the other defendants have committed persistent and repeated fraud. last week we proved that in our motion for summary judgement. today we will prove our other

claims. my message is simple, no matter how powerful you are, no matter how much money you think you may have, no one is above the law we get she is hungry. the former president hit back with scathing words to chew on. >> it is a witch hunt, a disgrace, we have a corrupt attorney general. this trial could have been brought years ago, but they waited until we were in the middle of our campaign. this is corrupt in washington. >> still trying to figure out how the judge didn't know there were cameras in the courtroom, because moments later he decided they were not allowed to be

there. taking off his glasses to smile into the camera, so he knew. maybe that you wasn't his good side and he changed his mind. talk about the legality of this case. they have decided former president is guilty of fraud. if banks were not defrauded or anything like that, where does trump trump. >> when you are looking at law, you look at precedenprecedence. when you are an attorney general, you look at that, what is the precedence? what about inflating asset value, is what is happening normal? i can't say it has not happened,

have not found example of this without a victim. the question becomes, but for having the last name trump, would this have happened no? attorney general leticia james has a long history of fighting trump. she ran after going after trump and call him a con-man and promised to bring light into every dark corner of his real estate. >> what is going to happen on the streets of new york right now, that border crisis to get to all the blue cities because you can't believe republicans have put them there. trump is right about that, i wonder if along the way, trump would give kudos for that. >> it is a mitigated disaster. what we're seeing here is a very -- political prosecution as

far as we can see. this is a victimless crime, is it unheard of for anybody in new york to flat assets? i thought it was more commonplace than some are admitting. what he said there about the witch hunt will resonate with millions across this country. they can see the case. all the people who wish to bring trump down, amazing me they are relying onnis cas like this. it will make him stronger with his most fervent base. >> the president came out and waited patiently. someone said, are you going to speak and he did. what did you get out of what he said? >> i liked his attitude and

tone, we have seen this happen before. what your concerns are, the issue of legitimacy, how the government is behaving, prosecuting political opponents, what is interesting and i think americans will notice this, new york is a dumpster fire. the city is being destroyed, people's lives are being destroyed. people can't afford food. with the migrants, 100,000 and this woman is accusing trump of inflating property value. property values have plummeted or will continue to plummet. people employed at these places, trump tower, east 57th street, seven springs estate, mar-a-lago, the golf club in hudson valley and westchester, all those people employed, all

that money the banks made, the value of trump's brand in the city and like everything else, like that tree that was chopped down in england, this famous tree a vandal chopped down that had been there. chop, chop, chop. they are chopping everything down in this city and country, trump representing independent spirit. >> kennedy, we are in a 20-minute break inside the courtroom and they started over an hour ago, they will take a 20-minute break, if there is news, we will report it.

>> everyone on break is watching "outnumbered," welcome to you and thank you for being with us. former president is leaning into this, this is best campaigning he has. not only is he speaking to his supporters who voted for him in the past, also independents who have had an oddity and felt the weight of the federal government on them and they felt they were unfairly targeted. he knows he has to defend himself. he has a gag order in another place. this is one of the few venues he can make his case. every time he goes before the camera, wow, he is competent and he can speak and he's forceful, wouldn't it be nice if someone protected the united states. put a person in stark contract with the president and you see

why the polls are neck in neck. my concern is he becomes so angry and obsessed with vengeance, if he is president again might eclipse the betterment of the country. >> interest you you say that. we travel a lot and meet people in airports and people have that concern that when he gets into office that people may not be the immediate focus. government has to multi task, he's proven he can do that. do you think that is legitimate? you know him, you worked for him. >> looking to the 2024 election, you put up all trial dates and campaign stops. we usually talk about october election as having a surprise. this and factors with legal court dates and for the former president to make the argument,

defend yourself and make the two-tier justice system, the line he should say over and over again, we are talking about me, we should be talking about your gas prices, your inflation. if he takes it from me and puts it on you, he may be unstoppable. >> not only is that brilliant strategy for him, it gets him into a zone and away from kennedy, there is going to be more and it is negative. acknowledge it, move on and make people the focus and tout your own policy. >> tammy just said -- >> his city. >> look at waste of time of time of public officials and look at the dumpster in this city. the homelessness, the people who are unwell and roam the streets,

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capitol police are investigating. bowman claims it was just an accident. he says he thought pulling the alarm would open the locked door. these new images are casting serious doubt on his excuse. the door was an emergency exit only and provides instruction on how to unlock the door and the fire alarm made no mention of unlocking the adjacent door. congressman bowman is defending himself. >> you stand by your statement that pulling the fire alarm was an accident? >> i don't know why this got so much attention, i was in a rush to go vote. listen, i take responsibility for what i did. i was in a rush to go vote and

investigation will sort everything else out. >> have you talked to hakeem jeffries about it? >> oh, yes. that is between me and the leaders, i will not share that, we've been in touch. >> i followed this shameful saga all day saturday, i guess you could say i have no life. this is attempt number one. congressman bowman did not realize he would trigger an alarm. we don't know it causes an alarm? number two from bowman, i'm embarrassed to admit i activated the fire alarm thinking it would unlock the door >> i don't believe he is that dumb. they think he can make his case on their behalfful this is

nonsense. don't stand before a camera and say you're taking responsibility for your actions when lying about it is opposite of taking responsibility. making excuses and if you don't speak the english language, i get it, you might think that latch opens the door. if you are trying to stop a vote and evacuate the building, then that is what you do and that is what he did. he was a middle-school principal. he has ding-bats in his charge that create utter chaos and it was his job to stop it, his excuse is especially thin. >> even well credentialed reporters like jake sherman, aren't buying it. i don't know what these words mean, he didn't think it would trigger a fire alarm

>> he knows what the words mean. he contradicts a story and says that is the door he always goes out to vote. how does he normally get out of it? if we have never seen him pull the fire alarm, what is he doing, sneaking through the crack? you are not that thin. what it normally like? we were talking about how lawmakers go to vote and that is in the tunnel underneath the capitol. maybe he uses some other door and got lost, i don't know, the options make him look unbright or lying and as will cain said last hour, stupid or lying. he went that far. i want to know why his story doesn't match, how did he get out without pulling the fire alarm. ask the question and make sure

the microphone is right next to him. >> go to aoc and watch. >> they are protecting who lied to investigators but filing motion to expel someone for trying to escape a vestibule. >> they were talking about george santos and then to this. >> republicans are not fighting to save george santos, he is an embarrassment. the different scenarios that get developed here, you have dynamic in a vestibule, down a set of stairs with a door that goes outside and it is a saturday that you would never use to exit that building, especially with all the -- security with no

security in the vicinity, no guard that you would allow to be open to go in and out. i would argue, this is not stupidity, the left, they are fanatics, don't mistake fanaticism for idiocy, democrats were scrambling to delay the vote and he sees a fire alarm. in his principal past, you pull the fire alarm and everybody exits. you are going to do whatever you do to evacuate, to delay and he expects people to believe him because he believes everyone is racist and thinks he in particular or others are dumb. >> tweets don't age well, this will not age well for jamaal bowman. no one in the country is above the law. the question is, does that

include him? >> we have to assume he finds it hard to tell the difference between fire alarm and anything else, when i leave the building today, i'm normally careful and usually manage not to pull the fire alarm. some days i do. sometimes i go to the fire extinguisher and start drinking from that. >> he's a menace. >> it is hard. every one in two times i get it wrong, so what, let's have forgiveness. >> this is a tactic of the radical left, certain students don't want you to speak, the far left pull the fire alarm and everyone has to leave. far-left tactic. >> did he just graduate? >> from the school of far left activism. >> sometimes it activates the

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which would have major implications are if the democrats and republican hopefuls. >> how will we win? it is not through playing by corrupt rules that the corrupt powers and vested interest have rigged to keep us. we have to rewrite assumptions and change habits of american politics. >> this came just days after "new york times" reported his meeting with head of the libertarian party. kennedy 17 and williamson at 6. an independent candidate brings in 4 to 5% of the vote, someone like robert f. kennedy can be a big threat for joe biden. >> this is the logical thing to

do if you are robert f. kennedy jr. we know from the dnc leaks, the democrats party is absolute expert at tying it up. expert at it. the idea he could get on running is fanciful and he realized the party will not let him through and will go the other route. he has an interesting chance of taking votes from biden. he thought his way through lots of things. lots of i think thises i and most people disagree with him on. he is interesting and thought through his position on things, whether you like them or not. how many things has joe biden thought through? >> recently. >> recently. >> flip side, siphoning votes from joe biden, but the flip side, this is r.f.k. super pack

presume they gave it to emthis, they argue he would hurt a trump candidacy and put out generic independent, trump 40 and biden 38, and generic independent at 17 and throw r.f.k. in and it is closer. huge caveat, this is r.f.k. polling, trying to convince democrats, we will not hurt you. >> he needs money and need to continue to be relevant. we know what perot did in his election. i would argue the reason he's running independently is because democrats won't recognize him during the primary or let him be in debate. republicans don't have that problem. you have many people, if you don't like donald trump, choose ron desantis or nikki haley or variety of other people. youngkin coming in makes no

sense, there are serious people running already and if they can't beat trump, no one can do it. people know what trump delivered. the policies, the results say it is like a cult, personal thing. it is not really. it is about results. we don't have that with robert f. kennedy jr. we don't. if you're going to be voting for trump or inclined to vote for trump, i will vote for bobby kennedy, that will not happen. i think this is exciting and good news, directly damaging to biden and democrats and they know it because he will be popular and it will be those disaffected democrats that hate what is going on right now. >> media saying he will put out attack ads against the dnc. >> the only difference, it is bobby, not bernie. this is them controlling their

own party. i would normally say this is not the answer, stay on thattic ittet so if biden bows out, there is somebody on the ballot. but i think they will go rogue and pick somebody else potentially who they can in a few weeks try to beat the deadline on ballot and get the mystery person on. oddly, no one is saying the mystery person is kamala harris, so who would it be? maybe gavin newsom? it won't be robert f. kennedy and we know it. he talks about things people are asking about, asking questions about the ukraine war, they are not popular among democrats, you know people are talking about it. he is talking about the 30-year fixed mortgage, no one can afford to buy now. he is hitting this in the last 72 hours, it is interesting and

the conversation gets bigger and we need that. >> background conversation in the "new york times" and nbc saying democrat voters say we want another choice and r.f.k. sees that, this is not by accident. >> this is not by accident. remember the super delegates and bernie sanders now has three homes and flying private to support hillary clinton? r.f.k. jr. is very interesting and is building one of those cc coalitions you only seen every 15 or 20 years, making outreach to libertarians and independents and limited government republicans, even though some views are very big government and very controlling. >> on the green stuff. >> absolutely. and his statements will come back to haunt him with himitted

government people. he is at least trying and does have an answer for everything. in that sense, he reminds me of vivek ramaswamy and that is attractive to people who are sick and tired of two parties talking heads and talking points. he calls out both parties, voters think he is sincere and believe what he is saying. he's shaking up the race. california good afternoon gavin newsom has named a successor for the late senator dianne feinstein and it emzoos like she checks a lot of boxes for him, except one, she may not live in california.

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markle, thankfully that did not happen. -- many are questioning if butler even lives in california. her profile on emily's list website mention mentioned pri primary -- has been deleted. here is part of her statement. i'm honored to accept newsom nomination to be a u.s. senator for a state i long called home. if you long call california home, long have a residence, why then, laphonsa butler, september 12, if it is home, you register where your home is. >> it is complicated when you pull out the facts. gavin newsom has no problem

fudging the facts, he went to a restaurant during a lockdown. he doesn't have a problem. if you are on the lookout for black women, who else do we know that does that? the left. the president did it when they said harris, i thought they meant me. no, i'm kidding. what did this accomplish? he wants to run for president. i'm sure her merits are great, but not in leadership as an elected official. he did not want to pick anybody that might run for the state. i get it. my question is, who does this help other than him? >> helps him. kennedy, interesting, i'm sure you remember, dr. oz and the media and way they treated him

in the pennsylvania senate race. will it matter that dr. oz is a carpetbagger? >> no, carpetbagging baby killer, couple bad things to have on your resume. if her claim is she helps people get elected pushing abortion legislation, democrats will focus on that. abortion issue is way far down the list for voters, actually behind climate change. economy and inflation in the top and immigration after that. someone living in maryland, i don't know if that is as much border state as california. we focus on her residence, what about the fact she was one of the biggest fundraiser for democrats. >> activist with the union and worked on kamala harris presidential campaign.

she advised harris. this is a message to the far left, to kamala perhaps, thank god it wasn't meghan markle, everybody trying to elevate their profile. it is height of identity politics, these boxes get checked. it is about the ultimate in politics. >> douglas, you were rooting for the dutchet of sussex. >> i was wondering whether or not the nominee doesn't live in california, since gavin newsom became governor, not many people live in california. i want this era to be over. get through and past this era

where everything is about the first this, first that, first black lesbian to serve in this court. it will never stop until we call halt on this. we've got to go back to saying we're trying to be color blind, sex blind, gender blind, we would like to have the best people for every role, can we get to that point? >> that will take not being blind. that will take people saying, can you see my merit first. >> best man or woman for the job. i'm with you. calling out people who livestream looting is now racist says the lawyer for an influencer heard screaming at the multiple smash and grabs last week.

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>> will robert f. kennedy affect biden's run for president? illegal border crossings set a record in september, kathy hochul says enough. talk to texas border sheriff and

executive resisting attempts to shuffle illegal migrants out of the city. do children in married parent families do better than single parent ones. liberals don't want to talk about it. we'll speak to the author. and should jamaal bowman be charged for pulling the fire alarm? jonathan turley on that. join jacqui heinrich and me for "america reports." >> we will be there. philadelphia police releasing new video of mobs of looters that ransacked multiple stores last week. you can see looters smashing the door of apc richards, they ran out with massive tvs and everything else they could carry. one looter is the influencer meatball, who live streamed much

of the chaos. >> everybody must eat. everybody must eat. record this. record this. keep your -- free iphones. free iphones. >> you hear her cheering on looters, 181,000 followers on the gram. she was not arrested after she got arrested. meatball faces six felony charges. her attorney says it is racist. it is an all-out assault on black and brown people as their character and actions are vilified. >> they hurt a lot of people and businesses. jay cross has a very popular art history 101 store with hip-hop designs and they are poetic.

he has worked with the best designers, he told me he saw this coming. he knew where they were going, they were letting people they had arrested out and he said it is only a matter of time. his phone started blowing up, people were saying, we see what is happening to your store. people who could reach him to order things were ordering him to know paic and he says he's been on a roller coaster of emo emotionings. he is just one business owner, they are destroying jobs for themselves, destroying their community and neighborhood and she was laughing so hard with that wrap on her head and baby tears in jail. >> when she was arrested and charged with six charges.

cops were watching, tipped off she was broadcasting this. >> harris rightly points to a store owner we should feel deep sympathy for. a store owner we should feel no sympathy for is lululemon. i wrote about this in my post the other day, lululemon i saw in this city being robbed in front of me and asked the store staff why they could not do anything. they said, we were told not to confront shoplifters. months later two female employees called police because there were people robbing the store for the tenth time that month. what happened? lululemon fired the two female employees for calling the police. when lululemon in philadelphia was ransacked and looted, it is companies like that that bring

it upon themselves. companies have decided everyday theft is acceptable in this country. they put that expense on the customer and inflate the price of their products yet again. those companies have to be called out, they are making a wreck of our cities. >> or they are leaving big cities. maybe meatball will be mayor of philadelphia at some point. >> i hope not. she is marginalizing real problems when she's shouting everyone has got to eat. we can talk about food security, but to shout that as this is happening and watch young men run out with televisions, this is not about eating, this is about stealing. aoc tried this and said this is all about eating, have a conversation about food security, you are undermining the issue by pointing on this. >> they had a lot of shoes they

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resolution screen that wraps around the entire audience. reportedly is the world's largest led screen. kennedy. >> kennedy: this is incredible and one of the most amazing things not that you are enveloped by a variety of pictures, images that can change on a dime and u2 obviously has had time to experiment with that. according to "rolling stone" review, it was visually unbelievable, the best part so the sound. so perfect and balanced and you could hear every note, every layer without it being too loud, and so it is a new era in sonic live concert enjoyment and i can't wait to see live music there. >> harris: you going to go? >> kennedy: absolutely. and when they performed one, it was -- they were enveloped in blackness. >> harris: did they bring in mary j. blige? i don't know, that's a lot of money. it's theirs to spend. >> is this what now everyone

wants. it's very exciting, i also want to see it -- what would joni mitchell do. would you want to see a real performance with humanity again, almost like we are taking all of our smartphones and wanting this kind of big imagery to every single aspect. and make sure we see other performances it's not all technical. >> sandra: and everyday men and women, maybe it's out of the reach. they want to make it back. >> no politics, if it's agreed, i'm going. >> kayleigh: i could not name a u2 song, so if toby keith or kenney chesney, but it's beautiful to look at. >> harris: "vertigo," it was an album, song, whatever. if you can't watch, dvr the show. "america reports." >> john: i still haven't found what i'm