be the nominee but i would like to see a little fight. i would like to see at least candidates go at it. on both sides. >> who are those for the republican side? >> i would think haley -- not sure of the second one. maybe the florida guy. >> would you like to see joe biden debate rfk? >> 100%. the sad side of the story they aren't creating competition on their side. there is good competition there. i would like to see gavin newsom to make it really fun. >> we would all like to see a good fight. tom, thank you so much. >> ainsley: we have had a great time. >> we ate a lot of chicken, too. >> steve: thanks to slim chickens for all the delicious chicken. [applause] >> see you later. >> bill: tastes like chicken. we have breaking nous across the board.

hunter biden about to appear in federal court in delaware. we expect he will plead not guilty on that felony gun charge. at the same time, here in new york former president donald trump about to head downtown. it is day two of his civil fraud trial. also in new york, the crypto king, sam bankman-fried, appears for day one of his fraud trial. we'll watch it unfold together coming up. breaking news from overnight. sitting u.s. congressman carjacked at gun point in the nation's capital. good morning. i'm bill hemmer. dana has the day off today. welcome to a big show to our colleague and friend, gillian. >> gillian: i'm good. thank you for having me back for day two. i'm gillian turner and this is "america's newsroom." the victim identified as henry cuellar. as he was parking his car tonight three armed assailants

approached and stole his vehicle. he wasn't harmed and working with local law enforcement. thank you to metro pd and capitol police for recovering the congressman's vehicle. let's go live to griff jenkins on the scene. what can you tell us this morning? >> well, i can tell you the residents walking these streets this morning are rattled. they say this is far too common. i will let you take a look here. you mentioned capitol police have a cruiser parked here in the navy yard area just a few blocks from the capitol in between the capitol and the national major league baseball stadium. the buildings here house many professionals on capitol hill to include members of congress. this is the one that congressman cuellar lived in parked out front when it happened 9:30 last night. three assailants approached him at gun point. his phone, ipad and luggage were in the vehicle. this morning his car was

recovered by the carjackers are still on the loose as officials look for them. it comes as carjackings are surging in the nation's capital. 750 so far this year, up more than 100% from last year. 75% of those cases, a gun was involved. now, a sad note, there is only a 25% closure rate on these carjacking offenses. james craig, running for the senate, says when he took over in 2013 in detroit more than 700 carjackings, got it down to 200 but far too unacceptable. here is what he had to say earlier. >> it's a very violent and intrusive crime. here we got per capita more law enforcement and not just the texas congressman, you had another lawmaker who was a victim of crime just in the recent past. >> interestingly, congressman

dan kildee, democrat of michigan walked out of the doors a few minutes ago. i asked him about it. he said it was very concerning. he spoke to congressman cuellar but said the attacks are far too common. remember in february, gillian, angie craig assaulted in her elevator building had to fight him off. this is all a part of concerns both among now members of congress and residents in d.c. that the policies towards crime in the nation's capital are far too soft and they need to get this under control. gillian, send it back to you. >> gillian: i'm grateful to be in new york for the day. thanks very much. >> bill: ted williams, homicide detective. what's up with this? motor vehicle theft up 106% from a year ago in washington. robberies up 68%, homicides are up 37%. happens at 9:30 at night and a nice part of town, ted. >> a very nice part of town.

but i have to tell you, crime is off the charts. there is a crime wave going on in the district of columbia. i have to tell you where this carjacking took place is not too far from my law office. it also is not too far from police headquarters. just think about it. over 700 carjackings alone in the district of columbia. not only that, but we've got over 200 homicides that have taken place. we've got everything in this -- when it comes to crime is out of control. guess what, guys? remember when the city council wanted to defund the police? and they also now have put in a reform bill that support criminals more than the police. they've got to make some changes in the district of columbia. >> gillian: there is a lot going on in the city, obviously.

in july we got a new police chief. i live there. i'm a d.c. resident. the same month that there were those two shootings at howard and catholic university resulted in somebody being killed. the high-profile murder of the lyft driver and you have the mayor in a heated fight with d.c. city council about putting forward some legislation to try and curtail the crime. what do you see is the best way forward from here? >> the best way forward is for the city council and for mayor bowser to get on the same page. mayor bowser is wanting to do something positive. the city council is more concerned about criminals and putting in reform to protect criminals than to protect law-abiding citizens in the district of columbia. >> bill: i want to share this with the viewers, a republican from wisconsin, his district is outside of milwaukee.

back in mid september, two weeks ago, he did this with a group of folks who live in d.c. >> how many people at some point during the past year have felt unsafe in washington, d.c. for their personal safely safety? how many people know someone who has been a victim of crime in the past year in washington, d.c.? >> just about everybody in the room raises their hands. your point is well taken. go down to philadelphia now and roll this video. this is a road rage case with a bunch of kids inside a car. the driver of a motorcycle, the driver of an atv and the driver of the car, they just start going at it, ted. it goes on for some time. he jumps on the back of the car starts breaking in their windshield of the driver there. this is center city, philadelphia. we've been reporting on this for years in that town. >> it is very scary because the incident in which you are here describing is that guy got on the back of that car to break

out that windshield, a gun dropped out of his pants pocket. he got out. put the gun back in. the one thing i was very concerned about looking at this video is that the occupants, the driver of that car, the mother of two of the children that was in that car, got out and confronted this guy. this is something that you should not do. you should not confront somebody like this. drive, get to a safe place, use your phone, call law enforcement. but you should not get out and confront somebody under these circumstances. but this is what is going on. this is the exception, guys. this is sadly this is the norm of what is going on with crime waves these major metropolitan cities. >> bill: you are right. more to come in all likelihood. >> gillian: an update on the

story we brought to you yesterday. state police have rescued a 9-year-old girl who vanished on saturday in a family trip. she was inside a cupboard in an rv. they have a custody in jail. >> after a terrifying 48 hours, you have basically given the most amazing detail. the 9-year-old was found alive. she was found safe and reunited with her parents and a suspect is now in custody. the fourth grader had been found hidden covered inside a cabinet inside a camper where the suspect lived behind his mother's double wide house. 47-year-old craig nelson ross junior, was arraigned overnight facing kidnapping charges. additional charges are anticipated. new york governor kathy hochul detailed how ross, 46-year-old

led to his own capture. investigators believe he dropped a ransom note at 4:20 in the morning yesterday. a fingerprint from that note went into a state database hitting a 1999 dwi out of saratoga. police leaders praised the special operations response team that performed an entry and subdued the suspect who suffered minor injuries. >> highly trained and capable unit we use for this type of thing and what they train for and live for is to make entries like this and save someone's life. >> charlotte's aunt released a statement saying we're thrilled that she is home and we understand that the outcome is not what every family gets. a huge thank you to the f.b.i., new york state police, all of the agencies that were mobilized and all the families, friends and volunteers. a family friend of the sena family says charlotte is doing well thanks to police.

>> i went to albany for examination and by all accounts everything is good. >> charlotte is home and ross is now being held in the saratoga county jail with no bail. gillian. >> gillian: molly line for us. what you look at there, viewers at home. we got this into the newsroom. a mug shot of the suspect after he was taken into police custody there. first time we get a look at him. >> bill: crazy story. shows up at the house at 4:20 in the morning. we wonder if he knew the girl and family. police maybe shed light on that at the news conference. 47 years old. about 45 minutes north of albany, new york. that mug shot is rather interesting. you wonder what was going on in his own personal life. we may get details on that also but again i think the key in this is to whether or not he knows the family. how did he know where that mailbox was and the residents

was and the cops had the house staked out so a lot of answers still out there. one of the family friends spoke earlier. so we'll be in touch with them as well. there is this now. check it out from a bit earlier. >> it's called the corporate death penalty. they want to say that president trump and not only president trump, his children and the 850 plus people that work for him will not be able to conduct business in new york. >> bill: president trump and hunter biden this hour, both due in court. the legal and political implications are massive. jonathan turley and more coming up with analysis on that. gillian. >> gillian: there is this. a scary incident in san francisco. a woman was trapped beneath the self-driving car. what went wrong? we have all the details. >> bill: our southern border is under siege. there is no let-up. prompting democrats to second guess one of their signature

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>> bill: here we go. president trump now leaving trump tower in mid town manhattan. similar scene from yesterday. by the way, it was a beautiful day in new york. it's another stunning day today after eight straight days of rain. >> gillian: i really appreciate it. >> bill: you're welcome. you brought the sunshine here in gotham city as the sun beats off these black suvs. he will be back in court with the judge. he may make comments as he did yesterday. seemed to take advantage of every break in court. the lunchtime and conclusion yesterday before that judge. so you've got donald trump and

hunter biden both facing legal challenges on the same day at the same time. former president expected back in court as i mentioned. that $250 million civil trial against him. also in delaware hunter biden will be arraigned on gun charges that were filed after his earlier plea deal collapsed. this thing has gone back and forth and now it is where it is back before the judge. david spunt has more for that case outside the courthouse now. david. >> bill, good morning. we're waiting for hunter biden to arrive here to this federal courthouse in wilmington, delaware. not here quite yet. court begins at 10:00 and we expect at some point soon they have to go to security and talk with the attorneys before the hearing begins. we're told hunter biden will plead not guilty. we know so because his attorney said so in a court filing just a few weeks ago. it relates to three felonies surrounding a gun purchase from

2018. he is back in this federal court building after this plea deal famously fell through in a very public way. he was charged with lying about drug use on a form to purchase a gun, lying to an employee at a gun shop and physically possessing the gun. his attorney maintains he had it for less than two weeks. now this plea deal was supposed to be just maybe about an hour back in july. it went several hours when the judge asked pointed questions about the proposed deal. it ultimately fell through. now hunter could face up to 25 years behind bars but that's unlikely given no prior felonies. part of the original plea deal included a diversion agreement on this specific gun charge, bill. it would have allowed hunter to avoid jail time by pleading guilty, special counsel david weiss said that agreement is null and void. hunter's attorney said it is valid since it was signed. the tax charges are still out there. we know they are out there because special counsel david

weiss said he would likely refile tax charges against hunter biden in either washington, d.c. or california where he lives. another quick note, hunter biden will appear before a magistrate judge today, not the same judge who famously blew up that plea deal. of course, it is notable today he is pleading not guilty to something he was ready to plead guilty to just about two months ago. >> bill: remarkable stuff. turn of events. see how it goes. not expected to be a long hearing. we expected the last one to be brief. we'll see. david, thank you. >> you never know. thank you. >> gillian: let's get into it with jonathan turley, law professor at george washington university and constitutional law attorney. jonathan, you have today for hunter biden as sort of the culmination of this four-year investigation into taxes and foreign business dealings and

today it's illegal gun possession. it's interesting. >> it is interesting. in nightmare i shall way for the biden family. it was rip it up. those were the words of defense counsel when this matter back controversial before the judge in delaware. the judge had asked why the gun charge provisions of the plea agreement contained a sweeping immunity deal for hunter that would seem to hold him harmless of any crime. the prosecutors admitted at the time that they had never seen anything quite like that and the whole thing collapsed. in the middle of all this, according to reports, defense counsel stood up and told the prosecutors to just rip it up. and they did. and this is what happened. because once you basically have

a deal like this collapse in court and you break off any agreement with the department of justice, they tend to go at you full bore. they tend to go for all of the possible charges and we're already seeing that on the gun side. we may see it on the tax side. >> bill: today's hearing he will enter a plea, the judge will tell him what is expected and what do you expect from the hunter case? because the trump case could go into december if not into the new year. but on the biden case, how long? >> well, the interesting unknown here is whether the biden team will challenge the underlying federal law. this is a law that hunter's father supported and they would have to challenge it on the basis of supreme court cases that president biden opposed vehemently from the supreme court. so it would be a bit of a reversal of fortunes and that could indeed be their plan.

they could be arguing that recent federal cases makes the underlying statute unconstitutional. that would create a rather interesting dynamic for the white house. >> gillian: let's look at former president trump now on his way or about to get on his way from trump tower back to the courthouse in lower manhattan. his team seems to believe they had a pretty good day yesterday, if you listen to what his attorney said this morning on our air. take a listen. >> that's right, so remember originally we had a decision that came down from the appellate division that disimmediate aivanka trump and addressed the fact that statute of limitations and limitations on years that they can go back. our position. this judge did not acknowledge it until yesterday when he said you just spent the entire day wasting my time effectively. 2011 is what we looked at.

it was great. i'm happy that he acknowledged it. it was a good step in the right direction. >> gillian: what do you think? >> well, it's hard to say how the judge will actually rule. that acknowledgement was important, although it is notable that it's rather belated. the trump team had to go to court to force this issue on the statute of limitations. if the court ruled along those lines, it would be a huge advance for the trump team. i think that quite frankly yesterday was a success because the former president got what he wanted most, which was an appeal to the court of public opinion. every time he is shown being dragged to this court in this long procession, i think it's going to inflame people in the country who view this as a political prosecution. it will also thrill many. that's the problem.

is that we're watching the same scene and this country is seeing two vastly different things. but trump knows the public well. he was the head of one of the most successful television programs on television. he reads the public pretty darn well. he showed that when he won the presidency. i think that he views this as a no-brainer, that everything about this case fulfills his narrative. you have an attorney general who ran on the pledge to bag him on anything. she didn't even have a specific crime. she just promised that she would get him. you have a case where there is no real victims in the sense of banks saying they lost any money. you have an extraordinary prosecution in size and scope. all of that works for trump. he knows it. >> gillian: jonathan, we have to leave it there. >> bill: don't go far.

we got a lot for you today. thank you, professor. nice to see you. 26 past now. another high proper fill trial today. crypto kid is due in new york federal court to talk about and face justice over the collapse of this exchange company that he built. a lot of celebrities caught up in this. see how that goes when the gavel drops in a matter of minutes. big showdown on the hill. a republican revolt of sorts against the house speaker kevin mccarthy. will matt gaetz attempt be successful? >> if i lose my job because i uphold the continuity of government so be it. i'll do what's right for the american people and keep working towards that direction. i love to give back to the community. i offer what i can when i can. i started noticing my memory was slipping.

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>> is your job safe? >> gillian: house speaker kevin mccarthy and majority leader steve scalise arriving at the republican conference this morning. the meeting on capitol hill. house gop and democrats are meeting separately after matt gaetz introduced a motion to oust mccarthy on the floor last night. chad pergram joins us with new details. >> good morning. house speaker kevin mccarthy is daring matt gaetz to kick him out. he will force the vote midday. gaetz is confident he will eventually be able to force the house to choose a new speaker. >> i have had enough republicans where at this point next week 1 of 2 things will happen. kevin mccarthy won't be the speaker of the house or be the speaker of the houseworking at the pleasure of the democrats and i'm at peace with either result because the american people deserve to know who governs them. >> it is called a motion to

vacate. gaetz doesn't like -- mccarthy's fate could hinge on democratic support. some democrats would vote to remove mccarthy, others may sit the vote out. some are not sure. >> we're also here because kevin mccarthy gave matt gaetz the affinity stones and this was inevitable. with that said, hakeem jeffries has been doing a fantastic job as our leader. the last 8 or 9 months. wait to hear from him before i make any decisions. >> some gop members are behind mccarthy and now having second thoughts. >> what is your conscience telling me? >> it's telling me to -- to vote him out. >> why? >> we've got $33 trillion in debt. not addressing it. we didn't -- i feel like we

haven't kept our word on several things. >> with the midday vote a senior gop leadership source says they want to get it over with. the house has not had a vote of no confidence in a speaker since 1910. mccarthy says bring it on. back to you. >> gillian: what do you read into midday, noon or not sure? >> about noon. that's the earliest that they could consider this. they get into some attendance problems later this week. mccarthy thinks it's best to go today. >> gillian: all right. stay with us. i'm sure we'll come back to you. >> bill: i want to show you former president trump now arriving at that courthouse. in a moment we can see him in the hallway as we did yesterday. he might make a statement. depends whether or not cameras are inside the hallway as they were yesterday. stand by. caught that clip of him walking in. jamal bowman landing himself in more hot water trying to do

damage control for pulling a capitol hill fire alarm on saturday. his office then released a memo which suggested talking points for democrats. one of them says this, i believe congressman bowman when he says this was an accident. republicans need to instead focus their energy on the nazi members of their party before anything else. karl rove is with me now. good morning to you. and then bowman tried to clean it up and went to x and said this. he said i just became aware that in our messaging guidance there was inappropriate use of the term nazi without my consent. i condemn the use of the term nazi out of its precise definition. it refers to members of the nazi party and neo-nazis. it sounds like a mess. who believes him? >> it is a mess. it is a mess and rather than apologize, he could help make this thing go away by saying i apologize. i was unaware of this. completely inappropriate and

apologize to my republican colleagues. and that it was an accident. it wasn't an accident incidentally. he is standing at a door that says emergency exit only and he goes to a box that says fire alarm and pulls it. what did he think it would do? somehow open the door? no, he was deliberately calling a fire alarm in order to delay the vote on the continuing resolution. and he should be in some way, shape or form punished for this. i do not believe that the effort to expel him, however, is a smart thing to do. better to censure him or make him a public spectacle. the try to expel him. in the history of the u.s. house of representatives only five members have been expelled. three of them were expelled in 1861 for taking up arms against the united states. one of them a missouri congressman was the commander of the confederate forces at

carthage and expelled him after that. we expelled one in 1980 for anticipating bribes and i was at the white house during this one. one was indicted on ten counts of bribery, tax fraud, racketeering and other things and ended up serving seven years in prison. those five members of the house were expelled. pulling the alarm is worthy of censure but expulsion is over the top. >> i don't know why it's gotten so much attention. i was in a rush to go vote, man. aoc said give me a break. they are filing a motion to kick out a member in a moment of panic was trying to escape a vestibule. peter gave a good try at the white house yesterday. >> would president biden ever try to get out of a meeting by pulling a fire alarm? >> are you talking about

something specific, pete? >> democratic member of congress pulled a fire alarm around serious votes. no fire. is that appropriate? >> what i can tell you is i'm not talking to or spoken to the president about this and so just not going to comment. >> bill: in all your days, would you think that would come up? >> again, look, why are we doing this to ourselves? he did a bad thing. he should apologize for the bad thing and own it. and people should stop -- aoc, for the white house, they should stop excusing this kind of behavior. we need to have a return to some measure of decorum in washington, d.c. this is a good place to start. he did a very stupid thing in order to delay a vote. he ought to be censured by the congress. it would be good if democrats and republicans said we're sen soaring you. don't anybody else think about

doing something stupid to delay a vote. >> bill: love the history lesson as always. have a good day. >> gillian: another closely watched trial this morning. crypto king sam bank man fried is due in new york federal court and jury selection is good to begin. kelly o'grady is outside the courthouse in downtown manhattan. kelly, what's the scene? >> hi, well federal prosecutors are calling this one of the biggest financial frauds in history. it also is one of the quickest demises of a business we've ever seen. 11 months ago sam bankman-fried was living in the bahamas and having influence in washington. now he is charged for stealing billions for his use. where did all that money go? bankruptcy efforts have

recovered 7.3 billion of the missing 8.7. unclear if you will ever see the 1.4 billion. today's trial is not about the complicated crypto world but good old-fashioned fraud. he is charged with seven counts of fraud and conspiracy. if convicted of all the charges he faces up to 110 years in prison. one of the big questions we've been getting a lot. what narrative you believe. monster or incompetent ceo how did he get such storied people to invest? we talked to a number of folks close to him. it was a mix of missing out on the crypto space and pedigree. jury selection today is very important. it doesn't matter whether he committed fraud or didn't, it matters if the 12 jurors think he did. >> gillian: thank you. >> bill: as you can tell we're tracking several fronts live this hour. hunter biden set to arrive in federal court in wilmington, delaware. this is a reversal of a case he

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the courthouse. >> bill: abbe lowell is his new attorney. well-known attorney in washington, d.c. circles. they will argue that hunter biden's in-person attendance may or may not be necessary for the sake of this case. we'll see what the judge has to say about that. jonathan turley now joins us. he picked up this gun,.38 caliber revolver in 2018 and now we have been led five years later to the point where we are today. professor, welcome back. >> thank you very much. it is obviously historic moment that few should celebrate. it is the first child of a sitting president to go through this moment. it is a moment, however, of

great significance for hunter. he is looking at a potential of 25 years even though that is nothing like any sense that he would likely get. he is a first offender. this isn't connected to any crime. indeed, he wouldn't be facing these charges if they simply renegotiated that plea. but things fell apart and now the government is going full bore. what will be interesting is not just the question of whether they will challenge the underlying law, which his father supports vigorously. but there was a suggestion by his lawyer abbe lowell who got out of the car first, that there may be a factual dispute that lowell suggested that despite this long period of addiction, that he signed this form during a period of sobriety. so what lowell said is we believe that he sort of came out of his addiction, even if it's

briefly so, because he finished rehabilitation. so when he signed the form, he actually wasn't using drugs. that's going to be a rather curious argument to make because they have been using his addiction as sort of a get out of free jail card in the past scandals. >> bill: professor, this is an extraordinary moment. we have a split screen where the son of the sitting president who for all intents and purposes we believe will run for re-election in 2024, while at the same time the former president is also before a judge at the same time, the same hour of the day and he, too, is seeking a trip back to the white house. this is biden versus trump so far as we can tell at the moment. it is just an extraordinary moment in american history to merck this. >> gillian: it was just sunday that we saw the attorney general insisting there are not two systems of justice in this country. the split screen you just put up there is going to be the

ultimate test of the var tee of that statement. >> bill: you mentioned, professor, he could face up to 25 years in prison in convicted. what is your realistic expectation if a conviction comes? >> it would not be uncommon to see a judge avoiding jail time for a first offender. but often the department of justice, when a plea bargain falls apart like this, will seek some jail time even if it's relatively short. the idea is that, you know, if you break the deal you face the wheel. and here the justice department is going with all of the charges they think they can bring on the gun side. they could ask for some relatively short period. i would be surprised if this was a significant jail period that was even sought by the justice department. we have to see how it unfolds. there are still torpedoes in the water, that includes the tax

charges. that plea bargain didn't just cover the gun charges. and the department of justice is expected to refile some tax evasion charges. >> sir, thank you. jonathan turley with us and just want to mark this on your calendar, october 3, 2023, we're watching hunter biden go before the judge and split screen we'll see president trump and see whether or not he makes a comment as he enters the courtroom for day two. it is all happening right now. wilmington, delaware and new york city. >> it's broken and we need to fix it. i need to be working, paying taxes and paying their way. most of these people have no interest in being on welfare. they want to work and they are not allowed to under the system as it now works. >> bill: we have a rare comment. former president bill clinton

warning democrats to wake up to the nightmare that's playing out across the country. blue cities once boasting about being a sanctuary city changing their tune in a significant way. in chicago migrants forced to sleep in local police stations. in new york the mayor eric adams deterring migrants from trying to enter the u.s. illegally will go to the southern border and tell them that. jeff paul has the latest in eagle pass, texas, to bring us up to date on today. jeff, good morning there. >> we are off to a steady start here in eagle pass, texas. the sun has been out for only an hour and a group of 50 migrants cross into the u.s. they were crossing over the rio grande, over the razor wire and still made it onto u.s. soil. it's a similar story southeast from here where over in brownsville our crew on the ground found a large group of migrants that turned themselves into authorities for processing. right up the road from there, that is where we're seeing some

of the largest groups coming across the border. this is just one video. the sheriff's department shot it at the fort brown golf course in brownsville sunday night. over the last 72 hours authorities say more than 3,000 have crossed in this area. that steady flow of migrants up and down the u.s./mexico border here in texas has some business owners all over those border towns on edge and worried about their bottom line. >> have had multiple people throughout the week tell oils we don't want to go downtown at night anymore. you don't know if it's safe. it has me wondering do i get security cameras and make sure to have every corner covered and stuff like that. >> that business owner is in el paso where you can see many migrants are now camped out in the city's downtown area. there are so many in the area looking for shelter and food. the city just opened up a new shelter at an old middle school in the area. as we know and as we've seen,

this crisis not only impacting border towns but also cities far away from here like new york city. the mayor, eric adams there, plans on making a trip to central america. he will speak with migrants on their journey to the u.s., ask them why they do it and get a better understanding of some of the misinformation that drives them here, bill. >> bill: we should point out he is going to mexico, the new york city mayor. jeff paul, thank you, eagle pass, texas. gillian. >> gillian: let's bring in fox news contributor tom shillue and comedian joe devito. there is a fentanyl summit that eric adams is hosting this week. the city is warning all new yorkers to carry narcan with them to try and combat the surge here in the city. did you bring yours with you today? >> i always carry narcan with me. i always carry fire

extinguishers with me in case there is an explosion. can he stay in mexico? he is doing a terrible job. it is amazing. first i have to say now that bill clinton involved it is not unaccompanied women coming over the border. the government is complaining you have a leak in your bathroom and come in and smash the pipes and when it gloats the problem is you don't have enough buckets. they have created this problem. the solution is pretty clear. secure the border no matter what presley says. she says the border is secured. you sleep easy and there is family of five in your living room. they are not doing a good job. they are the problem. >> in is a confidence game. if you ever part of a street scam they work in teams. the federal government and blue city mayors waking up to the problem. they are waking up to the problem is part of the scam. really they just want money from the federal government.

they go to the federal government and say it is killing our cities all this the migrant explosion, the federal government will come in and say prytz guerre and adams we'll make a deal and provide the funds you need to deal with this problem. it will be a permanent federal pipeline. and so they are going to make these solutions permanent and everyone is going to get in on it. the building owners in new york, people providing services for these people. they all want the federal dollars. it is going to be permanent. it is a scam. >> bill: it's a change of tune for sure. gillian new topic. >> gillian: portland public safety commissioner is warning folks in the city should not call 911 unless they are about to die. i have to say this is a nationwide problem. 911 call systems are on the fritz. i was reporting on this last week. 40% understaffed. call wait times are surging. it's a real crisis. >> bill: he says this. the 911 system is getting

hammered with multiple person incident and multiple overdoses. please do not call 911 except in the event of life/death emergency or crime in progress. >> it is terrible that there were people overdosing on cocaine spiked with fentanyl. think of how bad it is. be careful. your cocaine might have drugs in it. to think that's what they are combating. again, this another one of these things they seemed so surprised. you tell people hard drugs are legal. help yourselves, we're going to defund the police. if you have an issue with these people they won't support you. they wonder why are cities falling apart. ? its more onic. >> chris rock had a line saying when i go into a white neighborhood people call 91 and wait for me to do something. i thought it was a great line. i had to throw it in there.

>> bill: to joe's point. they decriminalized drugs and this is what they are left with. >> this is going to be just like the thing we were talking about with the border. now these cities at some point will wake up but they will turn to the federal government for solutions. that's what the cities do. they want the pipeline to continue. they can't solve their own problems. they opened up their cities to crime like we opened new york city to migrants. >> gillian: we have to leave it there. owe you a topic three. we'll reconvene. you'll have to come back. come back after the show. hunter biden is arriving in court a moment ago. today's appearance comes as the president faces another bad poll. over 75% of those surveyed say they believe he is too old to effectively serve a second term. jacque heinrich joins us from the white house. >> break it down. more bad news for president biden in that monmouth poll released yesterday. only 32% of voters expressing

some degree of enthusiasm about biden becoming the democratic nominee. 15% say they are not too enthusiast i can. 33% say they aren't enthusiastic at all. 59% of democratic primary voters seeking another democrat to challenge biden in 2024. two dems are challenging him. robert f. kennedy teasing the idea of an independent run and upset the dnc have iced him out of any opportunity to debate the president. marian wilson expressing concern this weekend that such a move from rfk could only help trump and echoed by biden allies like former obama campaign manager david axelrod. >> anything that lowers the ceiling helps donald trump. biden tends to do better among people who have a negative view of both of them and probably

benefits from a binary race. >> not just rfk pushing through a third party run. the group no labels is setting up a bipartisan ticket as an alternative widely expected to play a role is democratic senator joe manchin who said on "fox news sunday" he is not making any announcement right now. he said people should have options. joe lieberman helping in the effort. the president responded to it this weekend. >> president biden: he has a democratic right to do it. there is no reason not to do that. it is going to help the other guy and he knows it. so that doesn't -- that's a political decision he is making that i think is a mistake obviously but he has a right to do that. >> this weekend congressman dean phillips stepping down from his role in the house democratic leadership because he also joined the calls for some other candidate to be a choice on the ballot for democrati