went inside. at the same time, 100 miles down the road on google maps in wilmington, delaware, you have hunter biden given the conditions upon his release in front of that judge and his case now, after he pled not guilty on three charges, will continue. we expect some movement perhaps in 30 days' time. the best news of the day happened about 45 minutes north of albany, new york when this 9-year-old girl charlotte sena was returned to her family and parents safe and unharmed. she have is doing well. we need to find out from the police as to what's up with the 46-year-old man who was arrested. >> gillian: as nancy said a little while ago 0 chance there is a connection to the family. this was a random stalking and then attempted violent crime gone wrong. >> bill: police will talk at some point. we have to run.

gillian, nice to have you here in new york. here is harris now on "the faulkner focus." >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. three high profile courtroom visits in focus. former president donald trump talking with the media and directly to the voters on his way into court today. president biden's son, hunter biden, was in and out relatively quickly on federal gun charges. and it is jury selection day in the case against accused crypto crook sam bankman-fried. from the legal cases to a congressman carjacked at gun point. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." let's begin with the who something-year-old son of president. hunter had to take a drug test today and passed with a negative result from drugs. he arrived and left the delaware courthouse all in under an hour. he faces three charges, two for lying on federal gun forms and another for illegally possessing a firearm while using drugs. his plea not guilty. the arraignment coming after his

controversial sweetheart deal that fell apart over the summer. that drug testing was on the list of things that the judge in that plea deal falling apart gave him on that day over the summer. it's just a small piece, though, of an investigation going on for years into him. >> it's smoking gun after smoking gun after smoking gun. god bless james comer for unearthing this damage information. you have a department of justice weaponizeed against president trump and shielding the biden family. >> harris: we're outside the courthouse in wilmington, delaware. david, it is 53. he is 53 years old, hunter biden. i still had him in his 40s. >> 53 years old and it appears this will head toward trial. as you mentioned, this is just one piece of the overall puzzle

involving hunter biden investigations. specifically deals with the purchase and possession of a gun five years ago in the fall of 2018. we have video of hunter biden leaving the federal courthouse about 30 minutes after he arrived. this was a quick arraignment today. much quicker than what we saw back at the end of july when he expected to walk out the door with a plea deal in hand. that did not happen after things fell south after multiple hours. that's why we're here today, because of that plea deal falling through in july. hunter appeared before a magistrate judge today, not the district judge who famously blew up the plea deal in july. let's go over the conditions of release. he has to seek employment. communicate all international travel plans, he cannot possess a firearm. cannot use alcohol or drugs. all medications must be prescribed. he must get drug tested randomly and he must participate in substance abuse counseling. he did pass a drug test. he was charged with lying about

his gun use on a form to purchase a gun. lying to the employee at the local delaware gun shop and owning the gun. the attorney says he only had it for less than two weeks. there was a diversion agreement. if hunter pleaded guilty, which he expected to july he would have avoided jail time on this. even though abbe lowell, his attorney says both sides meaning the government and his team signed the deal. special counsel david weiss says it is null and void. do not forget the tax charges. special counsel weiss he would likely refile the tax charges in washington, d.c. or california where hunter biden lives. on the gun charges. we talk about a lot of charges. on the gun charges he could face up to 25 years behind bars. could because he does not have a prior felony record. harris. >> harris: all of it is

shorthand for it will be a while for hunter biden and his dad. leo terrell, attorney and fox news contributor. leo, let's start with what hunter biden is facing. it isn't about him. it is really about what leads to his father, then vice president and some of the things that they are looking at, too, are current with the president being in office right now. just what he knew, when he knew it that sort of thing. >> absolutely. so the gun charge has nothing to do with joe biden. it is the tax charges. it is the possible conspiracy of sex trafficking, harris. there is a variety of things that david weiss basically cut out the gun charge but the big issue is what connects hunter biden to joe biden? we'll get those answers not from david weiss and the department of justice but from the house republicans with the oversight committee. there is a lot to be told later but this case is very narrowly

taylored about the gun charges. >> harris: you mentioned sex trafficking. i want to get to this. i touched on it. new treasury documents are revealing that bank investigators at wells fargo suspected hunter biden of being associated with a sex trafficking ring which was based in eastern europe. and that he falsified checks to pay prostitutes. that's according to suspicious activity reports that hunter biden's accounts were being monitored as late as december of 2019. so remember i said this isn't so far ago in the past. the feds actually raised the possibility of charging hunter biden for crimes related to sex trafficking. according to i.r.s. whistleblower documents made public by the house ways and means committee last week. a justice department tax division prosecutor outlined nine instances in which hunter biden appeared to be communicating with prostitutes and coordinating travel across state lines, so on and so forth. leo, why didn't they charge him?

>> harris, i want to be very clear to your fox viewers. we aren't going to get charges from this department of justice. you have merrick garland going on a p.r. campaign on 60 minutes. the evidence is there. you just articulated probable cause and laid it out as an attorney for 30 years. there is evidence to pursue this. you have the i.r.s. agents who testified that hunter biden tried to use these sex charges and write them off as a tax write-off. if you believe there is a pursuit of these charges it won't occur through the department of justice. >> harris: wow, you talk about the two tiers of justice. one for them and one for the extremely privileged and politically powerful. it is day two of former president trump's civil fraud case in new york. attorney general james wants him

on the hook for $250 million in fines and also wants to ban him from doing business in the state. they would like to rip his name off everything. it is all up to that one judge. the former president tearing into both of them ahead of today's proceedings. >> the judge has been given false and extremely misleading information. he has been given false information, misleading information, and corrupt information by a very corrupt and incompetent attorney general james. she is grossly incompetent. >> harris: the former president's legal team are upset. they never had an option for a jury. they say that there is a form that you fill out. watch this. >> there is no option to check a box. they brought this under a consumer fraud statute. it has never been used in this way for a reason. because this judge, who oversaw

the special proceeding, has given them everything they wanted effectively for years. they wanted to keep it in this division as opposed to the commercial division where we would have had a normal judge. so no, everyone, i didn't forget to check a box. >> harris: i see you nodding. what is the problem with this? >> i've been practicing law for 30 years. there usually are some forms where you have to make a check, a little x there saying you want a jury trial. but what i am perplexed about is the trump team could have appealed this and could have challenged this before the start of this proceeding. so i'm a little confused as far as hey, why don't you challenge it if you honestly feel you have a right to pursue a jury trial? >> harris: can they still do that? >> the proceedings started. if they are going to preserve this charge they will file it on appeal. i think trump got some favorable rulings at the end of that

proceeding yesterday when the judge chastised the prosecution for a statute of limitation issue related to charges that they cannot proceed upon. >> harris: you would have thought that those hungry prosecutors would have caught that. i mentioned moments ago having to do with hunter biden that the two tiers of justice. is this the case of the power privileged going after a political opponent or fair game with trump? what is your take on all of it? >> let me think about that. yes, this is a perfect example of a dual system of justice. james, before she had this case, before she was attorney general, she targeted president trump. she went tooth and nail to find something to bring up against president trump. president trump is a victim of a two-tier system of justice where you look at hunter biden, and he has got very wealthy lawyers working for him and he is unemployed. they are going after president

trump because he is running for president. and that's a clear case here in this particular case where there is going after him on a proceeding that really has never been used before in this manner. downplay the value of his property to justify trying to close him down in new york city, harris. >> harris: leo terrell, great to have you in "focus" and set us up for the legal cases today. appreciate your time. >> thank you, harris. >> harris: 9-year-old little girl that police say was kidnapped saturday in new york state is now safe at home with her parparents. police found her yesterday after 48 hours hidden inside a cabinet in a camper behind her suspected kidnapper's mom's trailer. wow. listen to the winding road on getting to her. she vanished while out on a bike ride during a family camping trip in a state park just north

of albany, the capital of new york. police arrested 46-year-old craig nelson ross jr. and prosecutor charged him with kidnapping. investigators say he dropped a ransom note in charlotte's parent's mailbox yesterday morning. a d.u.i. charge in 1999 led to his capture and charlotte's rescue. >> fingerprint was found that matched what was found on the ransom note. >> highly trained and capable unit that we use for just this type of thing. this is what they train for and live for is to make entries like this and save someone's life. >> harris: charlotte's aunt said we are thrilled she is home. the outcome is not what every family gets. a huge thank you to the f.b.i., new york state police and all the agencies that were mobilized and all the families, friends, and volunteers. the suspect's preliminary hearing is set for 9:00 a.m. this friday. we'll stay on the story and

bring you any new information as it develops. look who is heading south of the border. not the vice president, the czar of the border, not kamala harris, it will be new york city mayor eric adams. once a republican, now a deep blue democrat. his mission is to convince illegal immigrants not to come to america. do you think they'll listen to him? and no one is safe from washington, d.c.'s crime wave. not even members of congress. >> you had another lawmaker who was a victim of crime just in the recent past. what is going on in d.c.? i know what's going on. it is run by ineffective, blue leaders. they need to step aside. >> harris: a congressman was carjacked at gun point about a mile from the capitol building and he is not the only member, as you heard him say, to become a d.c. crime victim in just the last few months.

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>> harris: here is hunter biden, departing court in wilmington, delaware moments ago. he pleaded not guilty to all three federal gun charges against him. the conditions of his release now, a new list, remember when the plea deal fell apart he got one list. these are the current conditions. he has to get a job. he needs to seek employment. communicate all international travel plans. cannot possess a firearm. cannot use alcohol or drugs. all medications must be prescribed. he must get drug tested randomly, like today. he passed that one.

must participate in substance abuse counseling. the judge has not yet set another court date. however, both the defense and the prosecution have 30 days to file any new motions. so november 3rd. we'll keep you posted. washington, d.c.'s crime crisis is sparing no one. democrat congressman henry cuellar of texas was carjacked at gun point a mile from the capitol yesterday. the armed suspects are still on the run. congressman cuellar is the second house member attacked in the area this year. in february, you may recall, a man violently assaulted minnesota congresswoman angie craig in the elevator of her apartment building. she was able to get away by throwing hot coffee on him. washington, d.c. is seeing a staggering increase of violent crime. homicides up 38%, more than 200 murders already this year.

hitting that grim milestone it's the earliest it happened since 1997. robberies and car thefts skyrocketing. two weeks ago they held an open forum on the dangers of the d.c. area. how to try to stay safe. >> how many people at some point during the past year have felt unsafe for their personal safety in washington, d.c.? overwhelming. >> this year u.s. capitol police have made 412 arrests. assault with dangerous weapons. unauthorized use of vehicles, carjackings. >> why do we see the significant increase over the past few years? it has to do with staffing. the ecosystem is broken. the reason is broken because the city council has legislated it to be broken. >> harris: more from washington, griff. >> good morning. when i came in this morning and started looking at the d.c. carjacking dashboard. there have been 750 carjackings

this year. since then i just looked before this hit is up to 753. not even noon. let me give you a look outside of congressman cuellar's building. the u.s. capitol police has posted an officer out front and you can see the building just about a five-minute walk blocks from the u.s. capitol where half a dozen members of congress live here including minority house leader hakeem jeffries. just a few blocks from major league baseball nats stadium. they are seeing a spike in crimes. one of the members who live here. dan kildee said he talked to cuellar, glad he was occurred but concerned they keep seeing crime in the neighborhood. he is talking about what happened last night on capitol hill and take a listen. >> i was just coming into my

place, three guys came out of nowhere and they pointed guns at me. i do have a black belt but i recognize when you have three guns i looked at one with a gun, another with a gun and one behind me. they said they wanted my car. i said sure. >> he also says that he hopes there is something done about the security. not sure exactly what the remedy is. i will tell you of the 7453 carjackings, 75% involved a gun. 25% had a resolution. i will leave you with one last thing. that is you had a shooting just about a 10-minute drive from here last night. three shot as well. it is a problem plaguing the nation's capital. >> harris: it is all over the country particularly in blue-led cities. republican congressman tony gonzalez of the great state of

texas, member of house homeland security and appropriations committees. i want to learn right away what was being said on capitol hill about how to protect yourselves after the hearing. >> we're all concerned. i think americans do not feel safe whether it's in d.c. or in washington. certainly in eagle pass along the border. lawmakers are concerned. we have seen this happen over and over again. how do we protect ourselves not only in d.c. but throughout the country? this is getting worse. it starts by the lawlessness. we have to stop the lawlessness and throw the book at the criminals that are conducting this. >> harris: you know, let's get to brass tacks, when you hear someone in charge of your safety saying well, you know, it's just a staffing issue and i'm not really sure what to do to go next. how does that make you feel? you nailed it. you have to nail these guys with the law. why can't they get that done? >> it makes you feel as if you

are on your own a little bit. what it boils down to is we have to enforce the laws and make examples out of criminals and have to show to the world not only in washington, but all throughout the country, that the lawlessness is going to stop. we have had enough. that -- talk is cheap. it is all about actions and throwing behind bars some of these bad criminals that are hurting everyday people. >> harris: talk is cheap and dangerous and deadly. we are so fortunate and he is blessed to be okay today, congressman cuellar. let's move to this. new york city mayor adams is actually going to central and south america this week to try to convince people, below our border not to come to new york city. the mayor's office has billed the four-day journey as a chance to foster relations with local leaders and migrant hot spots and learn more about the path asylum seekers take. his first stop mexico city.

it comes as new york prepares for a possible record breaking surge in new asylum seekers. the interim director of asylum operations warned of up to 4200 asylum seekers in a single week. that would be a big deal here in new york. they struggled with 110,000 people while your state had more than 7 million cross over last year. i don't know how they will get this done but he is going south of the border, governor kathy hochul of new york is calling for limits on border crossings. and making headlines with those remarks. a quick watch. >> instead of gambling with the future of this country, roll up your sleeves and sit dune with democrats and get in the room and don't come out until you figured it out. it is not that complicated. i could do in about five minutes. >> i appreciate the engagement. there needs fob more engagement. the mayor of new york city should be focused on new york city not go to all these other

places. all he has to do is turn on fox news to see what is happening across the southern hemisphere and figure out the border is out of control. i met yesterday with the ambassador to panama and told me two years ago they had 1,000 people come over illegally. last year they had 240,000 people coming over illegally. this year they think 700,000 people are coming -- going to come over illegally. this is where the united states has to be a leader. there will be a latin american summit on immigration this month. i am urging secretary blinken to be at that meeting. not someone less than that. this has to be at the secretary of state level, bring all the ministers from all these different countries and sit down and figure out how we have a solution to some of these problems. >> harris: do you think that's the message they get from the man in the white house? that it's that critical that a secretary show up? >> they need to have that message because this isn't just impacting eagle pass, texas or

new york city. it is chicago, l.a., every little small town and big city in the entire country and we have to put an end to that. that's why i introduced the safeers act on friday. it does three simple things. raises credible fear, which is important. surges immigration judges to the border that way we can get rocket dockets meaning the last person that comes over gets their case heard. the third piece, the most important, you deport people that do not qualify for asylum. this is what we have to do as a country not as republicans and democrats if we want to get this border under control. >> harris: congressman tony gonzalez you are on the front lines in a border state. thank you so much for your leadership. good to see you. >> thank you. >> harris: free speech seems more free for some than others on college campuses. a new poll shows a deep partisan divide on the issue. plus the bowman fire alarm controversy is raging.

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fire alarm, just before a government shutdown vote on saturday, he thought it was the door handle to open the doors you see behind him. he got caught on video. then his office tried to do some damage control and get democrats to publicly defend him by using this talking point. here it is. republicans need to instead focus their energy on the nazi members of their party before anything else. wow. bowman then tried to walk that duck back quote, it was an inappropriate use of the term nazi without my consent. when is it appropriate with your con snippety >> it wasn't an accident. he is standing at a door that says emergency exit only and he goes to a box that says fire alarm and pulls it. what did he think it would do? he was deliberately calling a fire alarm in order to delay the

vote on the continuing resolution. and he should be in some way, shape or form punished for this. >> harris: i can't wait for ben domenech to weigh in. fox news contributor now, ben. >> well look, we always hear about shouting fire in a crowded theater. this was shouting fire in a busy congress. an attempt to shut down a vote that was of the essence. not every vote that congress takes has to do with the timing involved. that you get something passed in order to get it across the finish line before a certain time it comes in and you have a number of different things that happen. when it comes to shutdowns, that's what's going on. in order to have a shutdown avoided you have to have these votes take place in certain times in order to get everything through and avoid the shutdown. clearly this was a move trying to showdown the vote and the shutdown from being avoided.

some in the democratic party believe that republicans would own it and stand to their benefit. i think bowman was one among them. everyone knows how these doors work. as a former staffer myself i know how they work. the idea he would stand in this moment and look at a fire alarm. recognizable to everyone in a public building or school or non-public one that has these types of alarms know what they do. we all know what they do. there is a degree of stupidity here that i think was originally at play where i'm just too dumb. i didn't know what was going on with the door. a new thing i've never run into. it doesn't pass muster. to have the nazi claim on top of it was just embarrassing. it has gone about whether we want this person to be in congress anymore. >> harris: what kind of conversations with were going on with staff and offices to stop things they didn't like. it stinks.

>> call them nazis and it will distract from everything just did. than >> harris: my question will be if you use it all the time how did you know the fire alarm was the button to get the door open? why would you even think that? the story has inconsistencies at best. >> absolutely laughable. >> harris: our own peter doocy asked karine jean-pierre cran about what was going on at yesterday's briefing. watch. >> would president biden ever try to get out of a meeting by pulling a fire alarm? [laughter] >> are you talking about something specifically? [laughter] >> democratic member of congress pulled a fire alarm around a series of votes. no fire. is that appropriate? >> what i can tell you is im i haven't spoken to the president about this. just not going to comment.

i will leave it up to. there is a house process moving forward. i will leave it to the house. >> harris: your reaction. >> look, i realize karine jean-pierre natural posture is to spin everything. she should have responded no, next question. it seems easy. even on this she has to engage in this kind of idiotic spin. that's a sign again of just how embarrassed some democrats are by what bowman did in this circumstance. it is a circumstance you know every entrance in congress in these offices has cameras all around. he knows at some level that we will see the imagery of this going on and that to me is like -- i don't know what was going on in his brain. it is just the kind of thing where are you too stupid to be a member of congress? is there some sort of cut-off here we talk about age limits and that kind of thing. i think this is absolutely

something he intended to go to try to slow things down and throw a wrench in the work and it didn't work out. >> harris: a capitol police investigation into this member of congress caught on camera as you pointed out. growing concerns about the first amendment and politics on campus. i know you know a lot about this. you talk about it a lot. a new polling finds 47% of americans surveyed say liberals have a lot of freedom to express their views to students but only 20% say that conservatives have a lot of freedom to put out their points of view on campus. your take. >> one of the things that we're seeing happen right now across the country is a lot of the most esteemed, centrist and right of center voices in major programs, major educational institutions, respected people, individuals-in-law schools, in graduate programs and the like announcing that effectively

they're retiring or leaving to go into the think-tank space. we see people, for instance, respected right of center legal scholars who are at places like ucla leaving to go into the hoover institute and the like. we see it overseas now with eric kaufman. one of the most respected professors who has studied a lot of things about american politics announcing he feels he is no longer welcome in these major university environments. and frankly that's trickling down to all of the different students who go there specifically to learn from those kinds of voices, to sit at their knee and to be able to hear from them all manner of things that we used to respect and value as part of our academic freedom. >> harris: yes to all of that. also the ability to hear someone that you may never have heard from before or a point of view you may not agree with but to be able to take that in and to have an open conversation. honestly, your brain is going to shrink if you don't use it.

that's what runs through my mind. i'm raising teenagers, you have children. they need to run into everything so they're ready for the world. i have to let you go. >> they just don't want to be challenged anymore. good to be with you. >> harris: the trial of accused crypto fraudster sam bankman-fried is underway right now facing several counts in what some are calling one of the biggest financial crimes of all time. plus most top democrats going all in on president biden for 2024 in public. but it's what they are saying in private that is getting reported. a lot of attention. they sound worried about his re-election bid. power panel next. when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis takes you off course. put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when i wanted to see results fast, rinvoq delivered rapid symptom relief and helped leave bathroom urgency behind. check.

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>> harris: fox new alert on the trial of accused crypto crook and ftx founder sam bankman-fried is underway today. one of the largest financial frauds ever and faces seven counts. he could end up facing 110 years prison sentence. fox business's kelly o'grady outside the courthouse in new york city. kelly. >> great to see you, harris.

the trial kicked off just under two hours ago. i want to highlight right off the bat the judge confirmed the prosecution has not offered a plea deal. that is important because it indicates they think that this case is airtight. i want to underscore this is not going to be a complicated trial about the crypto currency world. it will be about garden variety fraud. he is charged with receive app counts of fraud and conspiracy to commit. he faces up to 110 years in prison. see accused of stealing billion of customers funds. they have recovered 7 billion over 8 billion. some of the funds were allegedly used for political donations. the big piece we expect the trial to dig into during the mid-term elections ftx donated $40 million to democrats. his colleague as a straw man for further democrat donations and another man to funnel $24

million to republicans. a new book out this week profiling him. he sought to fund mid-term senate candidates to beat out those that were aligned with former president trump and he even considered paying trump directly to sit out the 2020 election. i'll underscore today's jury selection is critical. it won't be about whether he actually committed fraud or not. it will be about whether the 12 jurors think he did. back to you. >> harris: it always comes down to that. thank you very much. good to see you. democrats might be backing president biden publicly but what they are saying behind his back is getting ugly. the "wall street journal" is reporting that top democrats are resigned to the idea that he is not going anywhere. and there is no viable plan b. fox news contributor bill mcgurn says there is only one option left for democrats. >> they don't want to just get rid of president biden, who is very unpopular now. they want to get rid of kamala

harris, too. so everyone sort of knows what needs to be done. the question is how to do it. and i think until a democratic politician in office challenges joe biden for the presidency, it won't be done. >> harris: patrick murphy said he will do it. just kidding. it isn't just democratic insiders worried. a new poll finds 76% of voters say biden is too old for a second time. charlie hurt, fox news contributor. patrick murphy. former army undersecretary. great to see you both. we scratched our head when they want to get rid of kamala, too. >> it won't happen. >> harris: do you think they would ever run her, your party? >> joe biden got the nomination. i would say we are 399 days away from election day.

reality is folks are like -- he is the nominee. he will run for re-election. >> harris: i'm coming right back. this is a break and here is donald trump. >> institutions that were paid up, done, they made money. they have no fraud. it was absolutely no fraud. they all made money. they are all happy. 100% happy. i think -- many mornings, page 1, 2, maybe pages it says please, you must understand that you have to do your own due diligence and you have to above all do your own research and analysis. do not rely on anything -- do not rely on the financial statements. also the financial statements are very strong in terms of

cash, liquidity and everything else. this case is a scam. there can't be fraud when you tell institutions to do their own work. this case is a fraud and a scam. thank you very much. >> why is it a scam? >> harris: that was quick words from the president there. he has spoken twice live today and a couple times yesterday, too. if democrats thought they could stop him with a push, james, who he has named, that judge who he has named, and he calls this a witch hunt, if those people thought that this would stop or anybody on the left him from talking directly to the voters they just handed him a bigger bank of microphones and he is using it. at least twice a day. i want to come back to my guests on set. patrick murphy, we were talking about biden. let's talk about trump right now an the bully pulpit he holds. >> the reality of it is, he is out there and indicted four different states, florida, d.c.

and new york. what you are seeing is he is fighting back. he is a fighter, whether you agree with him or not. i think that's why people love him in the republican party. he will be their nominee. i don't think he is electable in the general election but it's how i see it. >> the other thing is even if you think -- i don't believe any of these charges are valid that are leveled against him. even if you believed they were they are backfiring because, as you point out, this gives him a platform and the guy knows what to do with a microphone and a platform. he goes out there and talks about the forgotten man and talks about these issues, real issues that are affecting people whether it's inflation or gas prices or crime. then he is being rung up on this stuff. it sort of helps his argument. >> harris: i would say this being the case, though, that has gotten the most publicity so far. the order of the cases benefit trump in this way. his name is on so many things.

the list would fill up this piece of paper. you drive or walk through new york city on the most beautiful real estate side with a view of the river and you have trump in gold letters. it is interesting james, the prosecutor, the district attorney in this and the judge, you know, as they press against him, the goal apparently with that prosecutor is to take his name off stuff and stop him from being able to do business and it makes him more of a fighter. you know who we don't see? biden? patrick, where is he? should we do a wellness check? >> he is putting points on the board. >> harris: he is putting points on the board? when curry is putting points on the board he is on the court. >> honestly, he is not a show horse. a work horse. >> harris: can you make him work at the border? >> no doubt, he needs to work there. i'm with you. >> harris: you need to do work there. crime in d.c.

can you get some hard on crime d.a.s? >> i think they're coming. people are fed up, both democrats and republicans on what is going on in society. all americans are stuff. we talked about the mom that got carjacked and pushed a guy on the motorcycle. >> harris: i hope you weren't pressing for moms to become vigilantes. >> we can't outsource law enforcement. everyone has to step up. >> harris: he has done eight sit-down interviews, eight. eight sit-down interviews. this year. it is october. >> it's incredible. you look at the interviews and they sound more like therapy sessions. some of them are really hilarious. he only goes for the people that he gets soft questions from. >> harris: you aren't supposed to lie in therapy. good to see you both. "outnumbered" after the break. at a bank lately? good luck. some of those rates can be 12 to 15% or higher.

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