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♪ >> hello, everyone, it is friday. this is "outnumbered." i am kayleigh mcenany. joining me, box business anninger, host of american dream home, sheryl cast tony. tammy bruce, tommy lahren, and veterans on duty chairman and former army intelligence captain jeremy hunt. we begin this friday with new attacks on trump supporters coming courtesy of hillary clinton. she seems to not have learned any lessons after branding trump supporters a basket of deplorables during the 2016 campaign. >> you could put half of trump supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. >> that's right. just throw away half the country. then last year, she followed up that attack by

likening a trump rally to adolf hitler courting nazis. watch. >> i remember as a young student, you know, trying to figure out how did people get basically drawn in by hitler. you saw the rally in ohio the other night. trump was there ranting and raving for more than an hour and you have these rows of young men with their arms raised. i thought what is going on. >> and in her quest to become even more likeable than that, here's what she said last night. insulting millions of americans who voted for president trump, saying they need to be formerly deprogrammed. >> sadly, so many of those extremists, maga extremist take marching orders from donald trump who has no credibility left by any measure. he's only in it for

himself. he's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions. when do they break with him because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members, but something needs to happen. >> formal deprogramming of cult members. i saw this, my husband and i did. he stopped me, he said did i hear that right? we had to rewind to ensure we were correct that she wants to formally deprogram trump supporters. expect to hear this in the soviet union and communist china and third world countries, dictatorships, but not here in the united states. >> she's still so bitter about 2016, and she's so upset and jaded she just cannot accept it. the bigger question, we know how hillary feels, i don't think any of us are shocked she said this. it has dangerous implications, it is insulting, condescending, we know that, we expect that from hillary. what i don't understand is

why the democrat party is allowing her to speak on top of the democrat party. it does nothing for them. it is horrible. the basket of deplore abs comment could be one of the reasons she lost among many others in 2016. she really fired up trump supporters with that. why the democrats continue to parade her out i just don't understand. she might be the only woman less likeable than kamala harris. it is time to maybe put her in the basement with biden, stop parading her out. she does well for the republican cause. for democrats, i am not sure hillary is the winner. >> completely agree. she's uniquely poor disguising how she really feels, but this is bigger than hillary clinton. joe biden hides it better. let's roll the tape. here's your president. >> maga republicans see carnage and darkness. maga republicans represent extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.

they embrace anger. they thrive on chaos. they live not in the light of truth but in the shadow of lies. the extreme maga republicans are a clear and present danger to our demo democracy. >> the last thing we need is neanderthal thing. you want to be on the side of john lewis or bull connor? do you want to be on the side of abraham lincoln or jefferson davis? this is the moment to decide to defend our election, to defend our democracy. >> the vast majority of you who have gotten vaccinated, i understand your anger at those who haven't gotten vaccinated. >> i mean, he is not much better than hillary. >> he's not. having come from the left, i urge people all the time to do this, believe them. this is not because they got out of the wrong side

of the bed or because they didn't have breakfast, believe them. >> hillary, i agree with you, is representing the democrats. she is not doing this off the top of her head. she was speaking with christiane amanpour who laughed. she was in prison going against the regime, speaking up for people and for women, she was put into prison. here's hillary clinton in the 21st century, arguing, you think deprogramming, should there be conversion therapy? i thought we were maybe against that. where do you collect these people up, in a camp? you think that's outrageous. this happened within the memories of people still alive today in ancient schiff ladies and gentlemens with longer history than we did, went there. they went there, and hillary is ironic, she's complaining about it is like they're all nazis or whatever. for censorship, wanting to

silence people, wanting to collect tens of millions of people, condemning them as so bad they need to be reeducated. you touched on that in your opening. this should be taken seriously. it is funny because it is hillary, she is bitter and she's angry and envious still of trump. this tells you about the democratic party, not just of her. they started their global foundation again, had an event recently. this is serious. this represents the democrats. make no mistake. believe them, the answer is not to charge up everyone on the right, the answer is to remind us and remind people as i would hope president trump would do that this is awful, but we stand together because of what this country represents for dialogue and discussion. we will disagree on the issues, but this is what we are fighting against and we do so by honoring this country. >> yeah. jeremy, so the person who loves innocent children

and goes to advocate for life, reprogrammed, right? the parent that doesn't want their kids in schools. the you know worker tired of joe biden, reprogrammed. that's what she said. >> that's exactly right. she claims it as maga extremists, only talking about a small handful. no, no. it is all of us. anyone that is conservative who doesn't accept her vision for our country she deems as oh, you need to be reprogrammed. let me be clear. her vision is one where the elites control everything and the rest of us need to sit down and obey, take our edicts from on high. she says it is maga extremists. if you don't like her vision, you are included in the deprogramming. >> can i add especially black men, gay people who do not conform, we are especially dangerous. women who do not conform, that's exactly. >> you know men and women

coming in droves to the republican party. it is frightening. you have the american public who sees this, many believe there's a two tiered justice system, mark halk, home raided by the fbi, acquitted by a jury, all of these pro-life activists trar getted, the catholic memo, that's not us, we are sorry, we can't defend that any more, you understand why an average american would hear that and think i don't like what i am seeing and hearing. >> you talk about weaponization of government which we have seen in several instances from president biden and this administration, whether it is one set of rules for his son and one set for others. what's so interesting, you mentioned this, it is perfect, you said the elite. it is elitism that is hurting them. and remember, she lost in 2016. she was shocked, she was crying, she couldn't believe that the country didn't just go along with her and with them and

still thinks that way. i look at the country in particular, you look at los angeles, look at new york, they still to this day don't learn their lessons, everyone in between, there's a country out there with different views and different wishes and goals for their selves and their families, and they don't want to hear it. we're so smart, you're so dumb. sit down, shut up. >> hillary clinton was shocked, angry, went on a nature walk when she lost and apparently learned nothing on that walk. take a walk, hillary. here's an interesting new twist in the showdown for the speaker of the house. jim jordan secured a major endorsement from none other than former president donald trump, who also expressed some interest in the job himself. ♪

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because these last 20 years are just the beginning. >> the battle for the next speaker of the house, donald trump is throwing support behind ohio congressman jim jordan. trump gcalling him a

republican star. the republican conference will meet behind closed doors wednesday for a secret ballot on their nominees before the full house elects a speaker. so far jordan and house majority leader ksteve scalise appear to be the top ones running for the gavel. they asked me if i would take it for a short period of time for the party until they come to a conclusion. i'm not doing it because i want to, i will do it if necessary, should they not be able to make their decision. tammy, i want to ask you about this. the journal had a piece about the fact that the constitution didn't provide for someone that is not serving in the house to be a house speaker, which i thought was a good point. it goes to show you is there so much concern about where the republican party is going that they're going to go to the former president, who by the way is kind of busy campaigning now. >> yeah. i think this is, trump enjoys this, obviously it

is running a campaign, keeps him in the public eye. it is a tremendously powerful position. i think he could handle it well. it would cause disruption which would be a little crazy perhaps. i don't think it is going to happen. there's some debate about the fact someone not a member of the house of representatives can become speaker. but i think we're not going to have to find that out. the talent bench for the republicans is deep. both steve scalise and jim jordan are fabulous. they're saying about needing to get things done, this is their chance now. there will be no excuse. trump's endorsed jordan. it means if they can't get their act together with him, you can't blame the conservatives versus maga or anybody else, it is about getting the job done. it means getting someone into that seat quickly. if trump gets in there it signals that the republicans can't get their act together. so it means get it done and be smart enough and whoever gets it deserves it. >> kayleigh, the politics is interesting. there's a lot of calls considering it has been a

long week in congress to actually, that somebody that goes in and leads the party needs to be somebody that's a unifier. they have to get in on one message. they've got to come together. there's a lot to get done. we only have the government funded through november, guys, and we'll be right back here. how many days are they working and taking off, i can't tell you. i can tell you at this point whoever the leader is, this is those that support scalise say he's the guy, they've got to come back. otherwise the democrats will slaughter them again. >> they have to be unified. i was thrilled to see reporting that apparently they don't want a floor vote until they consolidate around one person. either steve scalise or jim jordan, both excellent. curious to see who wins. steve scalise is running a more member to member lobbying campaign, second best fundraiser in congress. those are things that traditionally win that speaker race. jim jordan has a ton of media influencers, he could well pull it off.

the last point, it would be a brilliant pr move if president trump showed up at the capitol, not wanting to take the job, endorsing jordan, just show up, look like the head of the party. interesting strategy. >> jeremy, what do you say? >> let me say here, one, we have to have the unity there. we have to find a candidate, have a debate, but get behind someone, unify. two, move quickly. those are the two most important things for house gop because we can't fund our government. our military is not getting funding. it is a national security issue, the mixture that we have, money to secure the border, we have to get on this, move quickly. those are two things we need to move forward. >> one of the big things they have to figure out is funding for ukraine. more and more members of the republican party, caucuses in d.c. are saying where's that money going? it can't be an endless financial spigot that we keep giving money to ukraine over and over and not get accountability. it is horrible what's

happened to the ukrainians but we have other priorities here. >> i think the american people are sick and tired of watching tax dollars sent to ukraine, and meanwhile, los angeles and new york city look like third world countries in some places, a growing problem. invasion at our southern border. lots of issues in america we need to address. the republican party has to have a clear vision for the american people, otherwise, why would independents or republicans vote for this vision if this vision is one of calamity and disarray. they don't want to see that, they want some stability back in their lives and i think that's why a lot of americans didn't vote for trump in 2020 because they thought that joe biden was going to be that stabilizing factor. we know that did not turn out to be the case obviously. i want to see ckoch -- congressman jim jordan. he didn't win the first time, speaks to his character. now he is saying i will step up if need be. i'll also say this. i think it would be fun if donald trump came and made

a spectacle of it, vied to be the speaker. i don't think it is good for the party though. it signals independence that this party is only centered around donald trump and cannot exist without donald trump. we have to be stronger than just a party of donald trump if we want to last for the next 10, 20, 30 years. >> kayleigh, politically we've got a little over a year from election. they have to think about that. they're already going after steve scalise because he has blood cancer. he is already being asked about that. >> we have president biden coming out to remark on the economy from the roosevelt room. let's listen. >> this morning we learned the economy created 336,000 jobs in september alone. that means since i've taken office we created 13.9 million new jobs. heard me say it before, going to keep saying it, my dad had an expression. joey, a job is more than a paycheck, it is about your

dignity, about respect, look your kid in the eye and say honey, it will be okay and mean it. well, 336,000 more americans if they have children can say that to their children and mean it. the unemployment rate stayed below 4% for 20 months in a row. the longest stretch in 50 years. we've achieved a 70 year low in unemployment rate for women, record lows in unemployment for african americans and hispanic workers and people with disabilities. folks who have been left behind in previous recovery have been left behind too long. we have a high share of working age americans in the work force in 20 years. it is no accident. it is bidenomics, growing from the middle out, bottom up, not the top down. inflation is coming down at the same time. it is down 60% since last summer. inflation was 2.2% in the last three months.

now we have the lowest inflation of any major economy in the world. today we are celebrating national manufacturing day. we didn't name it that, it was already national manufacturing day. i can think of no better way to mark the occasion than to thank the 13 million americans in manufacturing jobs as we speak. they're restoring our pride, making things in america, and today i want to highlight of the 13 million manufactures jobs, 815,000 of those jobs were created since i took office. twice as many as the previous administration. and a report we learned earlier this week that spending on construction for new factories being built to generate more democratic growth and jobs hit an all-time high last month. biden am imcompetents is about investing in america and american workers. businesses are investing

more in manufacturing than ever before. i am bringing the supply chains home. before the pandemic, supply chains was a phrase most didn't associate with and think much about. but today after a few delays in availability of parts and products, everyone has known about, they know why it is so important. my economic plan is bringing supply chains home and investing in industries of the future so we can make things in america again with american workers. we are creating good jobs. in communities across the country, including in places that have been left behind for the last in some cases 20 years, because the factories they used to work at for years and years shutdown leaving them with no options. no jobs in that community. all over the midwest, all over the northeast. that under biden am imcompetents you don't have to leave home to get

a job. i don't know how many times i heard on the road, my kid got a decent education, said mom, i got to leave, no jobs. no jobs. well, you're going to be able to find a good job close to home more and more all across america. we're making sure jobs we are creating offer workers free and fair right if they choose to join a union, to form a union. biden am imcompetents is leading the surge in unionized workers, exercising collective bargaining rights. for example, the clean school bus program under the bipartisan infrastructure law is replacing dirty diesel buses with clean electric buses so children getting on and off the buses are breathing clean air, not diesel fuel. we encourage companies building the buses to allow employees to unionize if the employees choose. and it is working. we saw in georgia when workers of the electric school bus company receiving federal funds voted to unionize because

that was their choice. treasury department laid out recently in a major report that unions and collective bargaining are good for the economy overall. they help raise wages not only for workers in that factory but for everyone, whether or not you belong to a union. and they also increase, excuse me, they also increase corporate growth. today's job report is just another example of what it looks like when we focus building an economy out from the middle out not the top down, bringing deficits down at the same time. just this summer i signed a strong bipartisan law where i shook hands with the former speaker and we passed in the house and senate as well to cut spending by $1 trillion in the next ten years. unfortunately last weekend republican house members decided they were going to

put that progress in jeopardy. instead of honoring that commitment they made, once again brought us to the brink of government shutdown, creating unnecessary instability and risk to secure more extreme cuts in programs that help working americans and seniors. cuts that would have hurt everyone and hurt u.s. manufacturing, would have sometime'sed pay of military people. they cut spending by 30% for small businesses which are growing under our administration, for local manufacturers, for manufacturing extension partnership program that helps small and medium sized manufacturers attract and train workers to grow their businesses. but we stopped them. quite frankly, i am sick and tired of republicans in the house saying they want to cut the deficit when all they want to do is once again cut taxes for the wealthy and big corporations which only adds to the deficit. when i was able to cut federal debt by 1.7

trillion in the first two years, remember what we were talking about. it was corporations that made $40 billion, weren't paying a penny in taxes. guess what, we made them pay 30%, 15% in taxes. 15%. nowhere near what they should pay. guess what, we are able to pay for everything and end up with an actual surplus. you know, it is not about, not what the economy needs now, more tax cuts for the wealthy. i've said it before, i'll say it again, we cut the deficit over 1 trillion since we have taken office. laws i sign will cut by another 1 trillion in the next ten years. and my budget would cut it by another 2.5 trillion over ten years. here's the deal. the federal debt went up by 50% under my predecessor, in part because he passed a $2 trillion tax cut over one skewed to the wealthy and large corporations. i believe we should be

reducing the deficit by making sure the wealthy and large corporations can pay their fair share. not asking them to pay 90%, pay their fair share. by cutting wasteful spending on special interest like big oil, all the money made and paid so little in taxes, big pharma, same thing. you know, we just gave the american public a real gift in terms of, not a gift but fairness in terms of what they have to pay for insulin and for other things. guess what, it cut the federal debt. cut the federal debt. for example, over a thousand billionaires in this country, i know you'll hear me say this until i am able to change it, know what the average federal tax rate is? 8%. 8%. i think you should be able to be a trillion air or about a zillion air, pay your taxes. pay something approaching a fair tax. that's less than a teacher

or firefighter or cop pays in their taxes, that's wrong. look, house republicans shouldn't put us back in crisis mode. we have only 40 days for congress to get back to work to fund the government, avoid a shutdown, and protect tremendous gains american workers made in the past two-and-a-half years. shutdown means troops don't get paid, air traffic controllers wouldn't get paid, all kinds of problems at airports, loans to small business delayed in closing some of them. time to stop fooling around. house republicans, time for you to do your job. continue our progress, growing the economy, investing in america, investing in the american people. so let's get to work for the american people. they're waiting and they're watching. we've got to get to work. thank you all very much. >> mr. president, what are prospects for a meeting

between you and president xi of china in san francisco next month? >> there's no such meeting set up but it is a possibility. >> mr. president, former president trump endorsed congressman jim jordan for house speaker. could you see yourself working with congressman jordan if he is the next speaker and do you have any concerns about who might fill that position? >> look, whomever the house speaker is, i'm going to try to work with. they control half the congress. and i'm going to try to work with them. some people i imagine could be easier to work with than others, but whomever the speaker is i'll try to work with. >> mr. president, can you be specific what you did to reaappropriate ate border funds, especially when democrats controlled both chambers of congress? >> the wall thing, is that

what you're talking about? yeah. i was told i had no choice. congress passes legislation to build something, whether it is an aircraft carrier, wall, or provide for a tax cut, i can't say i don't like it, i'm not going to do it if it hadn't been vetoed, if it's law. >> you tried to reappropriate the funds. >> tried to ask the congress to consider changing the law to reappropriate. use for other purposes, more border agents, more technical capabilities for fetanyl. that's what i wanted to do. >> you started your remarks saying it was good news today with the economic report. why do you think most people still don't feel positive or feel good news about the economy? >> well, first of all, you heard the news today, too, they haven't heard it.

i think the people have 300,000 plus that got jobs feel better about the economy. look, you all are not the happiest people in the world, what you report. and i mean this sincerely. it gets -- you get more legs when you report something that's negative. i don't mean you're picking on me, just the nature of things. you turn on the television and there's not a whole lot about boy saves dog as he swims in the lake, you know. it is about somebody pushed the dog in the lake. i get it. if you just listen to what's going on around the world, there's reason for people to be concerned. there's reason for people to be concerned what's

going on with russia, be concerned about what's going on with other parts of the world. i think that the american people are smart as hell and know what their interests are. i think they know they're better off financially than they were before, that's a fact, and all that data, all that polling stuff shows they think more positively about the economy than they've's been, more positive about jobs, et cetera. i just think, let me put it this way. if you just watch what happened last week in the congress, how excited are you going to be? anyway. >> that was the president of the united states giving remarks on the united states economy. we heard a lot from him. there was a report from poll it codemocrats want

him to stop using the term bidenomics. he doubled down on the term. he took questions about three or four there. we learned there's no meeting with president xi of china currently scheduled. relations with china are icy at the moment. we learned a lot else, for instance, he would work with jim jordan if he was speaker, then he turned to what he called, quote, the wall thing, the wall on the southern border and exposed his hypocrisy on that issue. he said he had no choice but to begin building the wall. never mind he waived 26 laws in order to do that. finally he was asked why voters do not approve of his economic performance and he turned it back on reporters saying you are not the happiest of people before going onto talk about a dog in a lake. we have a poll, cheryl, we will pull it up. that reporter was right. here's the approval on the economy, 35%, taxes, 35%, inflation, 29%.

that's our own fox news poll. >> yeah. i want to poke a hole, i was fact checking on the jobs report. again, he misrepresented the data. he says he has created more than 13 million jobs over 9 million of the jobs were actually jobs that came back from the pandemic. they were erased and brought back. that is fact. according to the labor department. he also talked about government jobs, great jobs being created. most jobs were leisure and hospitality, low paying jobs as we face high inflation now at the grocery store and gas pump. wages went down in this report. so yes, you've got an extra shift, you got a job at the restaurant, great. but what you're paying at the grocery store to feed yourself is going to be down. that was one issue. government jobs again, those are not great paying jobs. we were going through the report on fox business this morning, this is why the american people are saying that they are not happy with the economy,

they're giving him low marks because no one is stupid. you know what your grocery bill and gas bill is. now a lot of people taking new jobs, guys, i will leave it here, they're taking second and third jobs. that's another reason, the way the president is representing the numbers and the data is disingenuous. >> it is. the polls reflect that, to put up another one. only 22% rate the economy as excellent or good. tammy, he was fervent wanting millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share of taxes to which you had an interesting retort. >> this is a guy with a massive tax problem. there's hunter, federal investigations and millions of dollars involved, they're an extremely rich family, and the son didn't pay his taxes. we don't know how far the investigation will go to this president as well, but the american people also understandably recoil a bit when they have to work two jobs to have

chicken on the table or to buy some eggs. and this rich guy points a finger, make people pay more taxes. why, so we can send more money to ukraine? we need some stability here and an understanding that things are happening here socioeconomically whereas the nation is deteriorating. this is why we are looking at money going to ukraine, we look funny at a guy that snaps as a reporter saying you aren't happy people, they propped him up, now he is embarrassing all of them. i would say also with the jobs report, most are part-time jobs according to heritage. we lost full-time jobs. again, we have seen this before where it is a nation of part timers, where you have the 50-year-old delivering a pizza to your door so he can feed his family. that's not this country. that's why americans don't like when they get this dancing around about an economic issue which is completely misrepresented. >> i have to laugh on the manufacturing points he was making.

the data expectation was 5,000, 17,000 manufacturing jobs. he sat there about four minutes bragging about the manufacturing sector. that's not what the number was. >> it is well and good to fact check the president, the media asked some pretty good questions there. a word of caution for republicans. a poll came out last night. they have the greatest advantage on the economy since 1991. when you don't unify and put forward a positive vision, don't make this a referendum on biden, allow him to define you as an extreme maga republican as he did with great effect in midterms, you can squander a huge lead on the issue that matters to voters. >> republicans are good at doing that, squandering big opportunities. the red wave turned into a red wedding in 2022. we have a big opportunity here, but i'll tell you this. we sit here and talk about the next speaker, it is an important thing. and there are people that are concerned about it.

the average americans that tammy is talking about trying to put eggs on the table probably don't care who the speaker is, may not know who it was, and may not care who the next one is. it is important for our country. i'm not trying to degrade that position, but they're worried about their families, worried about their mortgage, worried about interest rates. so republicans going back and forth talking about who the speaker is going to be, maybe it will be donald trump and matt goetz, they look at republicans like can you do something. i don't want to vote for you but i will if you change the economic outlook. what are we doing? playing sand box politics. a missed opportunity. >> yep. more "outnumbered" in just a moment.

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>> prescribe is angering members of his own party breaking a campaign promise not to build more border wall, not even a foot. he followed it up with another glaring contradiction. i am getting whiplash. the administration will restart deportation flights of venezuelan migrants. they announced they would announce protected status to hundreds of thousands of venezuelans that entered before july 31st. another reversal. alexandria ocasio-cortez is slamming the position as cruel, demanding he take responsibility and reverse course. >> i think it is a terrible idea. i think it is a broken promise. additionally, say you completely disagree on this, you could build a great big trumpy wall on the entire u.s. southern border and it is still not going to fix this problem.

the u.s. and u.s. foreign policy is contributing to the displacement of millions of people in south america to begin with. and if we do not address the migrant crisis at its root, it is still going to continue to be a problem. >> she is not happy. not sure where she was when she took that chevy video. if that's what it was. jeremy, the administration, the president said the law demanded i do this. listen to the press secretary. she didn't have a lot of points in the binder it seems, she said this so many times. >> this is a law that we are complying with. we are complying by the law that says we need to do this. we have to comply by law. now we are complying by law. we have to comply by the law. we had to comply by the law, we have to comply by the law, we are going to comply by the law. we are complying by the law. again, we are complying by the law on this. we are compelled by law. >> those are separate

times she said it. then, get this, when asked what law they're complying with. here was the answer. >> what specific law would the administration be breaking if funds appropriated for the border wall are not used, especially when the funds are -- why not let it go unused this time? >> look, i'm not going to speak to the law, have to refer you to department of justice, i'm not a lawyer. >> as former press secretary, you have to figure out what law it is if you want to use the point 28 times. >> yeah. listen, sounds like a robot. comply by the law, what's the law, i don't know. it is crazy. when you look at the reversals, i am reminded when i was in the army, one thing i learned that will always stick with me, what makes a terrible leader not necessarily one that makes a bad decision now and then, it is someone who can't make a decision at all. that's joe biden. that's his legacy. indecision. paralyzed by indecision. he swore against the wall,

can't do the wall. he has been back and forth on everything. can't make a decision on the venezuelan migrant issue, he can't make a decision on anything because he doesn't have principles that ground him. his entire political career is going along with political winds of the day, and that's his legacy. he comes in as president, you see that play out. we don't have any policy that gives americans an understanding of what's going on. he has failed to act on the border. i believe he is derelict in duties to the country's southern borders. >> you get whiplash. a total 180 on the policies. >> this is the problem. pandering to the far left from the start, extreme policies to make aoc and people in her squad happy, et cetera. then they suddenly see polls, like a gallop poll last week, showing noneconomic issues, the two top issues most of concern to americans, biggest problems was the government and poor leadership and then

immigration. they look at that. the election is come up. they have like build a wall, they love the wall. then suddenly their phones rang, said you're breaking your promise. now they don't know what to do. they're trying to have it both ways. we don't want, biden said i don't want to do this. karine jean-pierre says i don't want to do this, it is the law, we have no choice. what is it, 26 federal regulations they switched over. americans are seeing this. it really now, they're in between a wall and a hard place. they can't make everybody happy, but they are realizing i think that the american people that will vote them in or out are the ones most unhappy. >> i feel you did it, instead of a rock and a hard place. you did it. this line, there's presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers. however you spin it now, that's what the federal register said on the dhs. >> i see it differently. i don't see this as the

democratic party or biden administration being in disarray on this issue. i see this as very calculated. you're right on the polls, seeing that people in blue cities like new york and chicago, their constituents are saying enough is enough, this is unsustainable. they have to appear they're doing something to address it. i believe they might address it in a small way so it makes it look like apprehensions are going up and crossings are going down. make no mistake. they already let millions into the country they believe are their future voters. they accomplished what they set out to do. if they shut off the spigot for a year and a half, this is no skin off their back, friends. they accomplished the main goal, getting millions in. now it is about perc perception. >> i am glad you brought up the blue cities. i think political pressure coming from mayor adams here in new york city, the illinois governor, they've had several blue state leaders and city leaders come out and say enough is enough. chicago is suffering, new york city is suffering,

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>> last but not least, forget about going to school to become a lawyer or doctor. genzers want to be social influencers and colleges are taking notice.

a university in ireland set to launch first of its kind bachelor's program in influencing. that will be next year. the program includes classes like celebrity studies, video editing, crisis management. so instead of getting a traditional job, the youngest generations are looking to get in on the volatile, lucrative influencer space. look at this. forbes, number one influencer, known online as mr. beast pulled in a whopping $82 million last year. but nobody has done it quite like kim kardashian. she's valued at an astonishing $1.7 billion. and tomi, i want to add to this, influencer marketing set to be a $21 billion industry this year, plenty of money to go around. companies are going to be spending more. >> there's plenty of money to go around now. wait until more and more people are growing up, wanting to be influencers. the reason the influencer culture got to where it

was, it is very organic. i disagree with any type of education on influencing. what made it popular was the organic nature of it, not professionally edited, not people cultivated and taught to do this, people being genuine. that's how influence culture started. people trust the average person more than a celebrity, that's why you have so many of them. be warned. there's only so much to go around. anybody can be an influencer, you then divide up that money, it only goes so far. have something to fall back on, if you want to be an influencer, that's fantastic, be on instagram, tiktok, great. >> this is someone who is not an influencer, in terms of getting a degree in it, to me it seems like a degree in influencing is more useful than a degree in ethnic and gender studies and all of that. i know people that make a lot of money in influencer

stuff. i don't know anyone making money getting a degree in woke theology. i give it to at least say they're getting creative on useful degrees. i agree it is kind of a bubble, who knows when it is going to pop. >> i have to say here, some of the influencers have done some sketchy stuff, some are vile. jake paul, 34 million, eating dog food, out there boxing, he had comments, a lot of them controversial, yet you make a lot of money, putting some rough stuff out there. mr. beast, he is doing stunts, in antarctica, maybe that's cool, but you have to be controversial. what happens when i have to get bigger, do more, >> almost like an addiction. some people have done crazy things, evil knevil.

a huge class of individuals think they are going to make money and it's a let-down and like a football player in college and everything relies on you not getting injured, and being able to be in the pros, i used to tutor college football players and some were brilliant and bright and others i was praying to god their career would be successful. because there would be nothing else otherwise. so, you know, we are not setting up the next generation for real careers, right, for something that really moves through society. but i think that this is it. it's like what you were talking about. regular people, it elevated regular people that seems now to be dismantled a little bit. >> until tha and thinking about dylan mulvaney, not just the ones that pay -- >> or say the wrong thing. >> i don't like the new social media culture, but my sister ryan works in social media

influence marketing, she said you cannot escape it, utilize it for good. the new terrain of advertising. you have tv and print. >> you have to tune in tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern time for the "ingram angle," kayleigh is filling in for laura. what's on top? >> i am very excited. big much deeper into the hillary clinton comments, she wants to deprogram the country of maga supporters. we are going to talk about that with vivek ramaswamy, and chad wolf and steven miller, who better to talk about the border wall. excellent job. >> i know what i'm doing tonight. don't forget to dvr the show. here is "america reports." >> unemployment rate has stayed below 4% for 20 months in a row. the longest