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joey: i am joey jones, along with griff jenkins, lauren simonetti and lisa boothe. welcome to the big hour of "the big weekend show", this is a big story israel declaring war on hamas after the unprecedented attack that left the 700 civilians and soldiers and thousands wounded, 700 dead. israeli emergency services are reporting 260 had been found dead at an outdoor music festival after hamas opened fire on attendees. new york congressman lee zeldin condemned the attack moment to go with us. >> hamas attacked and killed hundreds of women at a piece festival to launch this. you have to be clear and understated the gravity of this moment whether you are jewish or not. joey: a national security council spokesperson confirmed

to fox news the death of several u.s. citizens. authorization of war opening up the floodgates for significant military activities. fox news correspondent trey yingst is bravely on the ground in southern israel and he's with us with the latest. >> good evening in the distance we can hear sides, these are israeli airstrikes in the northern part of the gaza strip. israel continues to target hamas positions along the border as they were to reclaim some of their territory from the palestinian militant. we know the strikes will continue to take place. tonight getting new information from the israeli military indicated over 100,000 people have showed up for reserve duty. israeli say they have the capability to enlist hundreds of thousands of more people with needed they are bracing for the possibility of a multi-front conflict now that we have learned today iran was involved

in the pleading of the massacre. this changes the equation of whether or not we could be looking at a broader regional conflict. when we really boil this down it gets to how this attack was carried out and he was targeted. this is not a shooting attack by militants against soldiers. this is a needed effort to slaughter people in their homes, women and children in the militants showed no mercy, the goal was to inflict terror on the civilian population. the videos from telegram and other messaging apps showed isis executions and we should not mix words, the brutality that israel has never seen this is the darkest day in israel's history and 48 hour later israel is continuing their response in preparing for a ground invasion. joey: i believe this is your third war zone in many years. stay safe, thank you for your diligent work. the surprise attack raising questions as to what u.s. intelligence agencies did not

see it coming sumer. the wall street journal reported that iran has plotted the attack over the course of several weeks. last week biden's national security advisor may disclaim. >> the middle east region is quieter today than it has been in two decades. the amount of time that i have to spend a crisis and conflict in the middle east today compared to any of my predecessors going back to 9/11 is significantly reduced. joey: joining is now former national security advisor robert o'brien. thank you for joining us. i think what most american sitting at home asking or thinking how did we not see this coming good how is this not a failure of our intelligence in the israeli intelligence. >> i'm sure jake sullivan is a smart guy want to do over on the statement. one of the things that we know a lack of information or chatter doesn't indicate that nothing is happening. it could be the precursor to an

invasion or a big operation which we are seeing here. our adversaries know we become very accustomed to rely on electronic intelligence, signal intelligence, reconnaissance all satellites so they've gone old school they use messenger, notes, in-person meetings and we don't have a human intelligence in iran or lebanon or the gaza strip and apparently these israelis did not either to pick this up. it was a failure of intelligence and also shows the operational security and that our adversaries are using tooth toward our technical means of collection. lisa: lisa boothe here. we know iran helped orchestrate this attack. there is also a report that hamas leader visited moscow last month. we see the shifting power dynamics happening in the world of iran, china and russia as well. how concerned are you about that especially at a time with the united states is spread thin and reading low on ammunition and

money. >> that is a very good question and something i'm very concerned about. number one we need to know that iran will be held personally responsible the iranian revolutionary guard ship in iranian government leadership needs to know those american hostages this is not just a israeli those american hostages are harmed we will hold them responsible. that needs to go to them and clearly. as far as the great power composition we have iran, russia and china. russia invaded ukraine, iran basically invaded israel by his proxy hamas and they do so with hezbollah and the third domino to drop is whether xi jinping decides if it's an opportune time to invade taiwan. i hope he doesn't. but this is a very dangerous time for the united states of america right now. lauren: is seems like were complacent. it is lauren, thank you for joining us. it seems like the white house is

complacent with what's going on in the middle east. you can say israel was to then they were focusing on internal issues rather than looking at what could happen in front of their eyes. >> this is what i've been talking about for some years. we have political discord and disagreement partisanship in america, that is part of our democracy. it can be messy. but the real threat to united states of america is our liberty it's coming from beijing, tehran and moscow. with a focus on it quickly and stop with the political nonsense. griff: i want to drill more into the wall street journal report about iran being behind this attack and the reporting is quite extensive t talk about has meeting with the revolutionary guard corps and representatives were meeting biweekly since august with leaders in lebanon. my question to you someone sitting in the position that you

had would they be looking now at ways to make sure that these groups can no longer communicate with each other. what trey yingst is reporting tonight with 15 breach points in the fence you at a season hold strategy with hamas militants engaging at this hour in various areas of israel. >> it is a good point. i made the comment several days ago when the terror attack started. this is a brutal slaughter, congressman zeldin was absolutely right at the peace concert. this is a violation of every law of war, this is barbarism. even for the iranians were prepared people, they tended to leave women and children alone and not target them but this is isis style brutality that we have not seen him since baghdadi running isis.

it is a terrible operation. it would not of been done by hamas without the approval of the coots force in ir gc. this war when tom condon talked about having israel back for the long run like we do for ukraine, this can be a long time because it will be hezbollah, hamas and eventually could be iran. if these american hostages are killed or wounded by hamas, again america co should hold irn responsible. griff: in what way? the equation has changed on two fronts. one is iran strongly behind this. which is a problem for our american interest. the other we have confirmed americans killed and taken hostage, what now should be our role. >> there is a number of things that we should do. first refreeze the $6 billion that they were paid. anthony bliken is a lawyer and

these guys were defending the deal today, they are smart guys. if you're paid $6 billion for five hostages you can call it ransom, unfreezing of assets, even quality gift, whatever he was but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. the american people are not stupid they know what happened. the iranians have $6 billion that they can use for food and they can take the body they're currently using for food in spite of her terrorism like they've done in sderot and other towns in israel slaughtering people. without a refreeze that money and send a stern message to the iranians if this nonsense isn't knocked off right away that the u.s. will be knocking on their door with a lot more than a handful of cash. joey: we have a quick second i want your prediction. my concern we find out several americans held hostage and we look at what happened with carter going into the regular administration. we have an election coming up do we have any fear that our government doesn't become a military conflict but

international crisis where there isn't a good direction to turn? >> i been saying in speeches recently i never thought we would look at the carter years as the good old days but at least jimmy carter when the russians invaded afghanistan understood naïve and change course and started the military buildup that reagan continued. we need this government that the biden administration that are smart and need humility and peace through strength posture to prevent china from invading taiwan into stop what's happening in the middle eastern ukraine. we cannot keep appeasing our enemies and hoping things will work out well. peace through strength that's what works we have to go back to it and i hope the biden administration does this is a nonpartisan issue we need to keep america safe for the next year end a half and that's how we do it. joey: robert o'brien former national security council advisor. thank you very much. joey: as were wages in israel the brutality show disturbing similar test isis tactics.

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lauren: hamas merely following the tactics of isis as they unleash horror on the israeli people, terrifying video shown

by hamas showed bodies of civilians dumped on the side of the road. elderly forced away on motorbikes, women, children brutally kidnapped from their homes. at least 260 bodies had been removed from a music festival in southern israel who reportedly shot dead by hamas who descended on the festival in bands. we bring in florida congressman brian mast. thank you for joining us. p read evil the scenes for the past two days. >> there is not another way to describe that. there brutality, reflections of isis. you have seen videos of the body count, decapitations by garden hoe of kidnappings. i think it will be unmatched by israel but it will not be in the barbaric methods it'll be in their commitment to root out every single terrorist acting they're about to have their war

on terror. >> we recovered together early watched you learn and walk with prosthetic legs with enhanced swollen to your stomach. we know what the price of war is and i don't think either one of us a good night 11 and said i would've rather not gone. i think we probably served. when we look at what is happened israel, david different point of view when it comes to military service. everyone is connected in their household no matter what. when they see the bases overrun and they see people in uniform desecrated not just innocent civilians but their military is there a bloodthirsty. i want to point out you served in that country as an american for several months in the military. is there a blood thirst that the government will not have a choice but to go into gaza. >> i would say rightfully so i bracketing. compared to america, there was a reckoning that had to take place after 9/11. there was a response to root out

terrorism prevented from happening again. rightfully so in the situation there has to be a reckoning and the commitment and response. i think this is where it's so important to recognize what american commitment needs to be. in a couple of days were a couple of weeks even palestinians put up pictures of what they will say is civilians even though they targeted civilians, they will put up pictures of civilians and say this needs to come to an end. we need to support israel until the body count is 5000, 10000, 15000. whatever it is until they kill every last terrorist. they are arab nasis. lisa: lisa boothe, having wa wad the idf you from, how capable is israel's military. >> israel's military should be looked at this way. a lot of people ask how is america going to get involved in

this. israel's military makes it a point to be totally capable to stand on their own. do they have joint training exercises with america and others, yes, do we share technology with each other and intelligence, yes we are allies in that respect but they do not want american boots on the ground in israel they make it a point to stand on their own to make sure the jewish homeland can be defended by the jewish people in the israeli people, that is their commitment to their country. i would add to that there is a threat of american hostages and others after by all accounts being moved through the intricate network to get into the gaza strip and it should be expected that americans be there to rescue americans 100% wherever terrorist may look to take hostages. griff: griff jenkins. as you point out in a matter of days or weeks we will soon see pictures out of gaza and they will count the palestinian

bodies and israel will begin to be lectured as idf spokesman has said will come in the world may turn on israel. as i pointed out in the last hour with over 700 dead israelis, 1500 wounded it is the largest loss of jewish life because they were jewish is why they were killed. civilians, grandmothers, women and children since the holocaust, the deadliest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. i ask you what is the appropriate response regardless of criticism that is coming. >> it is the same response of the world would have for nazis. i'll use that term again, there arab nazis. palestinians do not wish to live alongside jews they will tolerate living alongside jews until such time that they can kill their babies, kill their elderly, take as many hostages possible. that is the difference, the

commitment has to be just as much commitment that you would have two kill the nazi regime that should be the commitment to kill the terrorist. griff: the u.s. has sent navy ships and aircraft to the eastern mediterranean as a show of support read is there more to that? >> absolutely, there is a threat of american hostages. there is a support that the united states of america give to once another and will continue to give to one another through this. think about the intricate network to bring weapons into the gaza strip or the west bank. funding and weapons coming from iran going to iraq or syria or possibly through libya or other places even jordan at different times to get rockets, the like of suburbans hundred pound warheads to the tune of thousands of them into the gaza strip that is intricate and sophisticated in all likelihood and being used in the reverse

direction to move those hostages throughout the gaza strip and possibly throughout other in the middle east. that requires the support of america. joey: any of our troops into gaza to rescue hostages, are we at war with several countries at that point? >> i don't know if we are at war with several countries but it's something america should never be bashful about sending americans to get americans. lisa: thank you for the time in the perspective. up next israeli officials are comparing the war on hamas to terror attacks in american history the acting consulate general for israel and new york will join us right after this. ♪

lauren: israeli officials are emphasizing the magnitude of the ambush by hamas by comparing the actions to terrorist attacks on american soil. former israeli prime minister tolley bennett says it will be a long and difficult war like after pearl harbor after world war ii. israeli ambassador to the united nations dropping this comparison to the tragic events that have unfolded this weekend. >> this is israel l 9/11. this is israel's 9/11 and israel will do everything to bring our sons and daughters back home.

lisa: joining is now the acting console general of new york tsach saar. comparisons to 9/11 what is this been like to watch from afar. >> these are very difficult days for us, we woke up saturday morning. it was a peaceful morning. very important jewish holiday to a barrage of rockets and hundreds of terrorists that infiltrate into israel and kidnapped people, butchered people, massacred, little babies, elderly, whole families. it was a terrible day of the reminiscent for me.

and seeing the photos coming from israel especially from far away was a very difficult mo moment. the war is still going on as you can see and as you imagine in the marriage of rockets continue, fighting on the ground continues and israel did will do whatever it takes and will respond with an unprecedented response to an unprecedented event. griff: griff jenkins, we have seen a handful of u.s. lawmakers ended initial response from the u.s. office of palestinian affairs, an official office of the administration in a tweet since they have taken down. all saying that israel should not retaliate, your response. >> israeli is not retaliating. israel is defending itself and israel will make sure that the hostages will be free and we will remain calm and we will

make sure these kind of events will never happen. lisa: tsach saar thank you for joining us our prayers and thoughts are with you. we just heard how hard it's been to watch this from afar. we've been talking about the stories that we are hearing out of israel. i want to play the sound before we take it out of the group this is robbie berman at tour guide in the area he witnessed the hamas attacks, he was there, let's listen. >> as we speak a few hours ago a woman said that she received a phone call from bernice hiding inside and they killed mommy and daddy and she's hiding with her 4-year-old brother under the bed, they have been there for hours and no one coming to get them. this is an ongoing failure in tragedy hundreds of people have been killed, over 100 people have been kidnapped and brought

into israel these are old women, young children, young people going to the music fair. i feel so bad for the innocent palestinian women and children in gaza but there is would be a lot of people who are going to die. this is a war, this is war a full-time war and this was done on the anniversary and exactly like young camper. it was a bigger scale. lisa: you understand war, talk about what is going to be like for a lot of the soldiers going out there validly fighting for their country. joey: our country had to learn what urban warfare was well conducted. it was very difficult and a lot of men because of it because we did not know what we had to sort places like falluja, this is falluja time a hundred. this is a city state in gaza and from what we are being told has tunnels reinforcement the entire network and hamas among the community. we were struggling to know the difference between a foreign

fighter and innocent civilian because they had uniforms on. what are they going to go up against. you talk about home field advantage we want to cross the ocean. this is where everyone lives, their neighbors into their country. my fear there's going to be a lot of pressure to not only go into gaza because of that and if we end up with hostages i don't know what the play is. griff: there is a compounded problem which you can speak to and i spent a few months in falluja. a few more months than that. in those days we had willing partners who turned out to not always be so willing in the eye rocky national police and they were supposed to be a partner with our troops. we are going into an area the size of washington, d.c. hamas chief tactic is hiding among civilians. hamas organization is a terrorist designated group and the fact of government, we have

no willing partner or israel won't going in there which compounds the problem of having any way to operate in the environment without being an immediate target the second step down. joey: the taliban wrote the play but, you can stand behind the civilian they get hurt now they make the defendant the aggressor that you make israel the aggressor that's good to be strong propaganda and really tough for israel. what i worry about is only administration to support israel if that happens and if they have to go into gaza. i don't know how they don't have to edit or be bloodied. lauren: the way you guys are talking about this. the question i was going to ask seem so naïve. when you say 9/11 or this was her 9/11 i think how life changed for americans after 9/11 and how you go to the airport in the way that you think about things. you guys are describing what could be like in israel were

specifically gaza and there is no life. lisa: that is a great point remember how we felt as americans and we saw fellow american jumped to their deaths from buildings. this is seared in the image of every israelis of jews across women and children maliciously murdered and treated as animals and savages taking over these areas. you have to understand that the soldiers will go out fighting for that. ahead president biden pledging his administration support for israel after the surprise hamas attacks. peter doocy with the latest on that. that is next. makes every day... a "let's dig in" day... mm. ...a "chow down" day... a "take a big bite" day... a "perfectly delicious" day... - mm. [ chuckles ] - ...a "love my new teeth" day. because your clearchoice day is the day everything is back on the menu.

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can read this is not a moment for any party hostile to israel to exploit these attacks to seek advantage. the world is watching. griff: fox news correspondent peter doocy has the latest from the white house, what are we hearing tonight. >> officials are aware of the reports coming from the israeli counterparts and some of the hostages being held in gaza tonight are american citizens. >> we will be closely coordinating and working with our israeli partners on making every effort to bring those people back safely. that said this is the situation as you heard the israelis say is likely to play out for quite some time. i think we will be wrestling with this for a while. >> a former national security advisor think there are specific assets president biden could and can be deploying. >> we have hostage rescue teams and special forces they need to

be shipped immediately on the c-17's and c-5 supplied israel to prepare to rescue these american citizens. the fbi hostage rescue team deployed to israel. i recommended this last night to save the israelis but we need to do to save americans now. >> on a biden benjamin netanyahu phone call the white house is telling us the president conveyed assistance for the israeli defense forces is now on its way to israel with more to follow over the coming days, the leaders discussed ongoing efforts to ensure no enemies of israel believe they can or should seek advantage from the current situation. that is the secretary of state anthony blinken and denying that $6 billion that the u.s. unfrozen for iran directly funded the hamas attack. >> when any money is spent from the account for medical supplies, medicine and those saying otherwise are misinformed or misinforming and it's wrong either way.

iran fortunately has used and focused its fund on supporting terrorism and groups like hamas. >> president biden was nowhere to be seen on this today, no on camera events. we did hear some music coming from the south side of the white house earlier in the area of the rose garden. we asked about that we are told the president and first lady were hosting a barbecue for staff of the residents and their families. griff: i was seen that. he spent his day not on camera. and i was talking about this in rather barbecue he hosted for the white house resident staff and their families are there any videos or pictures out there about that or was it close to the press. >> it was close to the president something we could hear but not see because the way that the press access at the white house they let us onto the north side

we can go certain places on the north side but we did a staff escort to go to the south side and that was not happening today. to be fair the white house told us the president and the vice president have been getting briefings about the latest comings and goings in israel and gaza but we also know the president and first lady were hosting this big event we don't know if they popped out to say enjoy the lawn and snacks or if they were actually there engaging with the staffers and their family for longer. we do not know yet. pa.griff: peter doocy live at te white house. former president trump wayne and on the deadly attacks in israel riding on truth social, the horrible attack on israel much like the attack on ukraine would never have happened if i were president. 0 chance. doubling down in case you missed the first part, the second part it would not happen. let's start with you.

do you think the policies are so different that it really wouldn't have happened. >> the u.s. is stronger on the stage under trump and you did not see things like this happen. you also paid $2 to fill up your gas tank. the price of oil is up 4% right now. where is saudi arabia? a lot of experts essay because of saudi arabia and israel working on a peace deal, this is the impetus to make iran in his proxy say now is the time to attack. we don't want israel to have allies in the middle east. wise in saudi arabia saying more? what they are doing is not pumping oil, we are not fracking enough oil and it was not like that under president trump and we feel poor and less safe now. those are big issues going into 2024. lisa: saudi arabia blamed israel for the terrorist attack that happened on their own soil it comes down to strength, donald trump was stronger joe biden week and i asked robert o'brien

and the shifting power dynamic new world order axis of evil, china and russia taking place in the destabilization that is happening around the world with war in europe and the middle east and asia and china tries to take taiwan by joe biden being a weak coward and we also know now that iran helped orchestrate these attacks reportedly and we also know it's been reported that hamas leader visited moscow last month as well so the shifting world order is very scary as americans and the rest of the world. griff: we heard back when president trump moved the mc to jerusalem it was going to be unthinkable violence. it never came. we knew that president biden has yet to host benjamin netanyahu at the white house. and yet we had the worst attack on jewish people since the

holocaust. how do you square that? joey: president trump tore up the iran agreement, he had the abraham accord, created allies for israel that they had not had and then he moved the result. if you was able to do those things and the result was negative, no terrorist attack, no escalation to this level. it seems like the democrats policy is diplomacy through purchase, they can spend money and appeaser enemies. we do have an election coming up that's not what happened in israel and the bloodshed but i am so concerned that american troops will land on the ground and to rescue our american hostages and were in a war not like the one that i fought for r the majority of my adult life we don't have the bandwidth, refunding one in ukraine we got done with one in afghanistan. i'm concerned for our country and we do have an election coming up.

lauren: we can see foreign policy as a issue for voters. if that pops back up. joey: we fought a war for three years and it did not seem to be a key issue. lisa: were a country deeply in debt and were running out of ammunition and we are spread so thin around the world. it is a scary position how weak we are right now. griff: i think you will see foreign policy high on the list in the next set of republican debates. i had the u.s. strengthening its presence in the middle east in the wake of the hamas attack on israel. an important analysis when we return.

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and there's no catch. it's free. we make money from ads, but they don't follow you around. join the millions of people taking back their privacy by downloading duckduckgo on mobile and desktop today. joey: the u.s. is strengthening the presence in the middle east following the deadly hamas attack on israel. defense secretary lloyd austin has the fourth carrier strike group to eastern mnuchin union to assist israel. joining us military intelligence analyst, drone expert and fox news contributor brett malkovich, thank you for joining us there is a gambit of questions i would like to get to but american city at home or wondering is this a potential for americans to go to work? >> first and foremost is meant to provide enough ships,

warplanes and weaponry to protect americans interest in the region but meant to send a message of deterrence for is israel. the u.s. has to be prepared to strike. it is looking likely a full scale is really war with benjamin netanyahu being allowed to release what is necessary and we need to give them the space and support to do that without condemning the actions of the next response. israel has to do what has to do we need them to defeat hamas once and for all and not pressure them like we typically do. this will get very bloodied. israeli leaders have been pulling back a full-scale invasion for quite some time. they have to reset deterrence and the only way is to take out iran or hamas and they have to destroy hamas. when we see them going to gaza very heavily after a few days international support waivers there is demand for cease-fire and they get this pressure and there is a proportionate force in gaza and they're told to pull back, that cannot happen.

this is how the israelis have done in the situation which allowed hamas to build strength and reestablish to turn into the military strike were bidding to the region will allow them to do this. it will deter has paula and iran on a larger scale in the strike forces is only going to help in a long run. griff: it's good to see you. i want to ask you when you talk about what israel has to do in terms of going in on the ground how is that going to look different from what you and i saw with the combat in kiva and ukraine and what we saw on the short missions that idf made in gaza. >> i think after going full-scale they only understand strength. when trump killed soleimani, iran was quiet because they understood and strengthen that when we do nothing this is what they do we gave them 6 billion u.s. dollars that only helped

hamas 6 billion from the body to administration. hamas and hezbollah help plan and execute this prenatal think that money went to support this, they need to go in hard and strong and if they put down their weapons hamas is going to kill everyone men, women and children and try to destroy the entire country so they need to put down hamas once and for all. joey: thank you for joining us and begin us your expertise. i hate to say it we're in a moment of wait-and-see. we do not know what's going to happen to the hostages we do not know where we are, all we can do is pray. >> exactly. thank you for having me. joey: from the notion i cannot get over the fact that hamas may have hundreds of hostages and we don't know what that is going to look like. i don't have faith in the specific administration not to be paralyzed by that. lisa: it is terrifying and sad of trying to get the hostages out. what is also sad palestinians can choose a different path with

the withdrawal in 2005. instead they chose hamas as leadership in gaza in 2006 elections. why every palestinians not hamas there's pull after pull show the palestinian people support hamas and that create interest in a cup located under dynamics as well. lauren: pro palestine valleys in chicago and times square the traffic getting in today in philadelphia. there is a fraction of the other side that is supporting palestine and possibly hamas. lauren: the conversation will continue. israel has not taken the next steps. we will have to see what comes next. i think we all pray for peace but we know israel will retaliate and they need to. our final thoughts i had. stick with us.

>> welcome back to the big weekend show let's get to our final thoughts. but give mine it really quick what retaliation looks like and how long it lasts. doesis not a complete thought fr me. lexuses good versus evil look at how hamas went and they repo men and all of the brutality even after that israel gives gaza citizens warning before bobbing. i think that tells you everything about the two sides and who is good and who is bad in this equation. with the who have we allowed over the southern border throughout the biter demonstration? i think there are some real concerns about what we could be facing on her o our own soil hee united states. >> i've thought this force will be fought large of this device right here. we have seen hamas has an uncanny ability to propagandize. they have been a live streamed

their own operations. international pressure from both sides. the real story we don't know where the people chiding those festival were from. what can be employed there hostages could get messy require progress to raise a great point joey. where was going to say for my final thought i'm going to use it for this. guys like you and journalists who had the honor of covering heroes like yourself, you are forced to art made to see things you should not see in life in war. we are starting to see and what is the worst attack on the jewish people since the holocaust on the screen. hopefully it will continue to be told when we look at the sheer absolute savagery of hamas in the militants. wewhwe'll understand what is so didn't get to meet the actions taken in the coming months. >> with incoming propaganda war comes propaganda becomes truth

like with never seen. >> it is barbaric when congressman brian was on he said is really retaliation won't use -- it's going to be stiff but not use the same tactics we are seeing with the barbarism from iran and hamas. >> and image images not going te me from this weekend with the grandmother in the golf cart being taken hostage from the un ambassador to the un, that was a holocaust survivor. that tells you a lot. it breaks your heart. >> pray for the people of israel. >> that does it for us will see you guys next weekend. we'll be back next week. sunday night in america with trey gowdy starts now. the six good evening