but it was very disgraceful to see that everybody believes in free speech, though students couldn't see with moral clarity what was happening in israel, what had happened in terms of the hamas attack. this is not a time to debate th conflict that's been around for decades, it was a time for mora clarity in these students faile frankly. >> think you'd you be right always good to see you. >> thank you. before we turn it over to "the five", we want to turn your attention to another rally. interest rates sliding great a lot of people parking their money here as the sort of work goes on. that's not unusual. interest rates bounced so much, and buying his picked up so muc which is another reminder that when the world is skittish, it goes to the u.s. of a. ♪

>> hello everyone, i'm judge jeanine pirro along with it is 5:00 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five". ♪ ♪ >> president biden doing what h should have done days ago unequivocally supporting israel and forcefully condemning hamas. >> it is in this life and the peer at the unadulterated evil is unleashed on the world, people of israel, they had one such moment this weekend. the blood the hands of the terrorist organization hamas, rated as trophies families in their fear for hours and hours and desperately tried to keep their children quiet to avoid drawing attention. it must be crystal clear, we

stand with israel. and want to make sure they help we have what it needs to take care of its citizens. to respond to this attack. >> president biden in the white house confirming that 14 americans have been slaughtered by hamas and 20 u.s. citizens are missing. biden also saying that american are being held hostage by hamas. the families of the victims are begging biden to act. >> they are bringing the u.s. citizens back him safe and sound . we expect nothing less from the administration. >> we are asking the u.s. not t take a backseat and to make a stand for us as soon as possible . until we became whole again. >> the resident showing some leadership today, but where is

this version of joe biden bed? he practically stayed silent fo two days without any on camera public statements as israel dat was the worst terror attack and its history. white house was forced to clean them up after him and post tweets that claimed biden was receiving regular updates on th situation from his national security team. dana, i will go to you first. the president promised that the united states would stand by israel 100 percent commitment one, why did it take three days for him to say this, and number two, how long do you think this promise will be good for given the fact that were fair we're headed in kin be extremely long and extremely difficult? >> thought his comments today when he finally made them had some moral clarity to them, i think there was a missed opportunity to not talk about iran, but to talk about good versus evil, to stand with

israel, and maybe he could say this, maybe he could say that, he doesn't often do. there was period of about 70 to hours when he was silent during all of that withdrawal and we kept saying why isn't the president speaking? i don't know why he is so slow to do that because i imagine what he said today is probably what he thought initially, perhaps their internal process is one that just takes a little bit of time. another thing i would have made very clear is that any palestinian killed in this response, they are the victims of hamas as well, not the israelis. i don't know if that can help some of the public perception o social media, you see some of these disgusting excuses being made about hamas brit it's

happening all around the world but one of the things shocking to me was to show up pulled fro gallup that in 2013, the democratic party, 55 percent of people in the democratic party ten years ago supported israel, today it's only 38 percent, why and what is the responsibility of the leader of the free world to try to turn that around? the iran piece was missing today , it's not going to go away . the other thing happening is they can delay him getting out there making a statement, but w have all seen, everyone in the world has seen exactly what the did here in real time because o social media. the old tactic of waiting to talk doesn't seem to work that well anymore. >> you know, as dana mentioned, missing from the speech was iran , but, the wall street journal is the one that told us that biden was providing weapon training, and yet we don't hear

this from the administration. one of the things that biden said that any country thinking of taking advantage, don't. he was very firm, but didn't iran already do that? >> think he was specifically thinking about hezbollah. if you're going to start in the north or start with syria, ther are outlets there have become a jervis date. there is no doubt about it, ira played a role. we could be looking at a major war, there are ways to insinuat we know exactly what's coming on . what i would've loved to seen a them say listen, i gave you guy a chance, and a maximum pressur campaign, i thought the admit previous demonstration was all wrong. i release sanctions, i allowed you to pump out more oil. we saw that happen and now i realize it was a mistake. active maximum pressure, here w go again. the washington post expanded an said a year ago, not only did

they hold tactically, they help set up weapons manufacturing plans and hezbollah pitched in. we found out that they were having meetings and excuse me, people knew this. i would find a way to find a wa too say listen, this is a huge problem, how can you find that out, i don't see them being a threat, if you're comfortable giving them resources i would love to confirm this because this is got to stop right now. >> jessica, you know, biden didn't demand that hamas not touch any head on the americans going forward. are you comfortable that the president has the backs of americans over there? >> absolutely. i've seen bipartisan support an adulation for the speech and th people on social media that wer

conservatives, very pro israel saying this is a speech that barack obama would not have mad when he was in office. that this was one of the more pro-israel speeches you could have ever envisioned. i'm sorry that he didn't say exactly the word you wanted in the order that you wanted them, but the message was in a critically clear. i think he has been clear since day one of the spirit he spoke to the american people on saturday afternoon. he came out and he said we stan with israel. there was no talk with the palestinians, making sure there's no like loss of life in the gaza strip and they said we have your back. instead when he's been disappointing and when he's not on camera, there was a joint statement that came out last night signed by the u.s., france , germany, italy coming together and speaking out in support of israel, the israel h

invested her to u.s., the israeli ambassador to the un. i don't really get that besides kind of partisan bickering, wha the problem is with how joe biden has addressed this. if it's good enough for benjami netanyahu, it should be good enough for you. >> we have no choice because there at the number one benefactor. they have no choice, but to say thank you for giving me just enough to survive, not enough t win because we are their number one benefactor. the problem is obama and biden have one thing in common. he still hasn't invited him to the white house and congratulated him for it. >> invited him to the white house last month right now ther are people like the former israeli defense minister saying that he needs to resign.

his homes are at home, not with us. >> they do not like each other. >> they don't, and obama didn't like impaired bottom-line botto line, there is nobody better than netanyahu in a situation like this. how do you negotiate or protect americans when the israelis are being used as human shields? >> i'm not an expert in that, i will say that i thought it was strong speech. you can get petty about the words i guess, but there is a lot of problems with this administration, that was no problem. my bar is very low for joe biden , i was relieved he didn't equate the attack with a fire i the kitchen which is a win and my book, however it's not like was fortified or empowered by i because i guess it's just words right now and i'm waiting for the deeds. without the words were strong, but i always go by the deeds.

we have to wait and see. a note i know a lot of you were saying why didn't he mention iran, i don't think that was th problem. i think right now we have to talk about our vulnerability ou immediate threat. and we have one, it's called th southern border and its unprotected. it would've been nice for him t say we are going to treat it like we did with covid. we have to close the border, we have to get troops down there. we have to treat this as a serious threat to the united states. think this is a stark scary moment for the west. after 9/11, we were devastated, but there was never a concern w weren't being led by team of people with fortitude and will. i feel that right now were dealing with the leadership deficit and i'm giving him credit for that speech. albeit it was a couple of days late and he could have done it instead of going to a barbecue, but right now, it's not like we are at baseline, i feel it we

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♪ >> continuing to target hamas a they prepare for a ground invasion. time can be of the absence as w get new reports of the hamas

barbaric acts. they are now beheading babies. >> [inaudible] to get you see the babies, the mother and the father in their bedrooms in the protection rooms in the home. the terrace kills them and slaughter them. >> in southern israel, there ar people that are questioning the accuracy of this report about beheadings, is that their previous barbarism wouldn't hav predicted this activity. what kind of toll is this takin on the soldiers and the rescuers ? >> i don't think people would b questioning their reports from what they have seen. in southern israel. thousands of hamas fighters it appears on saturday morning crossed into this country and killed everyone they could find. those who didn't die from the

initial attack were dragged bac into gaza and that's why there are still dozens held captive 'neath the gaza strip. this brutality should not be question. people were killed in their homes and in their beds. there were killed in their bus stops, the benches, this was barbaric there is no other way to describe what took place in southern israel. we're getting more and more information trickled in that they were not looking only for men of military age for example they were killing children, the were killing babies, they were dragging grandparents into the gaza strip. this was the kind of terror the look to inflict on the population here in southern israel. >> one of the things that dan hoffman said this morning was that one of his former cia supervisor said the longer you have hostages out there, the longer they are out there, the harder it is to solve.

any plans or ideas come up possibilities of getting the hostages safely out of the gaza strip. >> he makes a great point. the israelis and the americans have no idea where these hostages are right now. they have a network of tunnels that they have no way to surveilled, deep deep underground in places that the israelis may have an idea they are tumbling in certain parts o the strip, they simply can't identify where these people would have been taken in with a 25-mile strip of land anywhere from 3-7 miles long there are a lot of places where they've had to hide these hostages and it's not accounting for the high-ris buildings that there are in gaza , 1.9 million people a heavy populated area in multiple different population areas.

they could be anywhere. even if the israelis launch thi ground war into gaza and they take territory they will be engaged right along with hamas militants. we've seen it happen in the past . secondly, they're going to have to search the deep underground to try to find them which is a whole challenge of its own. >> do you believe there is a plan in place that continues th operation should they ever go into gaza. i know they didn't want to go i but if they have to come into a plan as well as mobilizing 300,000, i imagine to be effective, that to be responsible, you might have to wait a little bit. i'm not her time is on their side. do you know they think what they're going to do and how the going to do it? >> absolutely, there are contingency plans in the israel military for these types of situations, especially when it comes to a ground operation in gaza up right many times over

the past several years we've seen similar scenes at the border tanks in apcs street staging. but not at this level per they've trained in these environments, there is a training center where they buil similar city as to what they have been gaza cd city so the israeli soldiers and some air forces will go to the center in the desert and they will work o clearing buildings, they will practice what it's like to take over a block inside of an urban battle environment and hold the territory. that's what these warriors are going to be trained when they enter gaza and when the decisio is made. it will be a difficult battle because of the urban battle environment they will face government not only small arms buyers, but unexpected attacks like you have seen by the islamic state in the past. >> it's jessica. i'm curious, we're now on day four of this massacre, what do you think of the crucial difference is from where we eve

wear yesterday and what tomorro is going to look like? >> i think the biggest difference is they shift momentum on the northern front. to israeli soldiers died overnight from the incursions b hezbollah militants. not just in this contested area in the very northern part of israel, but this time targeting the western border between israel and lebanon. additionally, we sought attempted mortar fire from syri and we talked about this yesterday on the program, the possibility of a multi- tear front opening up for israel. already the israeli has responded with artillery strikes . if that front opens up, they ar willing to strike anywhere at anytime with all the firebreathing have. the americans stand with their medalist ally and they are willing to provide some level o

support. >> it is judge jeanine. with the urban warfare you talk about how difficult that kind o warfare is in that they are having to clear out buildings, go into one insecure that building and connect another an a tunnel. and the this multi- front war, it's going to be extremely difficult for israel to do this alone, do you think that other countries will join, especially given the fact that there are american hostages that we are aware of, i believe there are french and german hostages as well. are these countries going to be asked to come in and put boots on the ground if they are not part of some special force? >> it's an interesting question because if you had this many american hostages killed and another part of the world, ther would be consideration to participate in any sort of activity to save them. and this case it simply will

involve military action. initially, what were hearing from the region has to do with how the israelis welfare early on. so far every indication is they will do well, but it will take time and it will suffer casualties. they will hold the buildings in their territory but from what we've seen in the past reportin in the gaza strip, many of thes initial areas they are going to enter on the eastern and northern part of gaza have been fortified with militants, we se how they parade in the west ban and have been embedded with the israeli army a few weeks ago. they face a series of roadside bombs as they try to enter that said they. this is a city that is not as densely populated and filled with militants. that is the face they bumped to go into the strip. >> up next, israel fights hamas and congress warns that the terrorist could start launching attacks here in after slipping n

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>> republicans warning terroris could be infiltrating americans wide open border after the horrific attacks in israel wert over50onoth fbi terror watch list has crossed into america this year. that has kevin mccarthy sending this alarm. and this year 151 from 160 different countries. in my own state we constitute coming from yemen on the terror watch list. why are they coming to america, who do they have planned and wh are they communicating with. president biden has said previously that he believes the number one threat to america is climate change, the number one threat is killing americans is terrorism.

the number one threat is an ope border. get a shocking new congressiona report saying the biden administration has failed to remove 99 percent of illegal immigrants released into the country and new border patrol data shows thousands of special interest aliens from places lik syria, yemen, iran, and afghanistan have come into the u.s. illegally. greg, you alluded to this in th a block yes, we have a problem there, but we have a serious problem here on our own border. get the non- border is a sympto of the absolute weakness in thi country, i don't know why but i the last i would say 20 years, we have demonized strength as a characteristic of the oppressor so anytime you exercise any kin of strength, discipline, or will , it is wrong for the same way they handcuff the police during riots or congress with response to shoplifting. we're governed by the weakest group of people in our nations history. you can grab a class of auto mechanics from grade school com

up with them in charge and you would get a better outcome because week men live week borders, even the war party had a border. but you know, we talk about he said that the biggest threat wa climate change, he also said th biggest threat to domestic threat was white supremacy per think of the opportunity cost they are. what we lost in safety and security never have we had such an administration in such a hug threat to coincide the same time . >> judge, the other thing that comes to mind is it's not just that you have people on the terror watch list coming across the board are illegally in staying in one place. now it could be anywhere in the

country. how do you track them? >> they could be anywhere and we're not going to track them because we let them in. i think it was in 2021 as you said, 99 percent of migrants wh came and our staying in the united states and that is 2 million people. 99 percent. let's talk about hamas. if anybody thanks hamas isn't already in this country, i thin they're naïve because think about it. what happened in israel is abou the extinction of the jewish race. it's not about territory. and hamas hates, you know they're in this country as well. with the biden demonstration is done is he has allowed a wholesale entrance parities mad this country nothing more than global landing spot with benefits. no questions, no dna, no nothing . even if they do tell you you have to go to court, you don't have to go for another six or seven years. we look like fools on the world

stage, the congressman indicate there is a history of the revolutionary guard corps is working with the mexican drug cartels to enter through our open border. so and think about it, israel i a liberal satan and we are the great satan. if we are inexplicably tied to israel and we have allowed hama to come into this country along with all kinds of people, one i the half-million getaway spread we don't know who they are. >> or if they would have been o the terror watch list because you don't know. >> there is opportunity. he knows we have a huge problem with the border not because gre says so even though we should live listen to you, but the mayor of new york city, the mayor of chicago, the governor, massachusetts, the governor of new york is telling him you hav a huge problem here. and that speech that mostly was good, he could've said listen,

this is our version of the pandemic. might number one thing as the president of the united states is to keep the american people safe. eyesight just sought the number that dana put up, 659 of the last two years on the terror watch list. i think this is a reason not on the terror watch list, but have come through here and need to b registered. pakistan as well has been a problem in the past. yemen as well, i think the president uses opportunity. he'd have better prospects of the election to be really centered. >> how about just close the border? >> he needs an apparatus to do his job ever evidently. >> you never want to be on the wrong end of a declarative statement like x is the biggest threat, right, because somethin else could show up. before 9/11 we didn't think there would be terrorists that got pilots licenses in were hiding out in in around us and

we're able to take nearly 3,000 lives. that is the expectation know that something like that is possible so of course it is possible that somebody, god forbid could leak through our border. but it is important to consider the facts about this, at least up until this point. looking at somebody who works a the cato's and substitute. went between the enforcement in september, he said zero americans have been injured or killed in terrorist attacks by illegal immigrants or asylum-seekers who enter throug the southern border. over the period from 1975 until 2022, the chance of being murdered an attack is one and 4.3 million. that's important to consider an all of that. i understand you want certain things from president biden. i don't today speech was about

israel, he had just gotten off the phone with netanyahu, who had expressed to him what his priorities are in terms of what he'd like to hear. but keep that in the back of your mind as you say that now like kevin mccarthy, this is the number one threat. based on the data, it absolutel isn't. >> until it is. >> until it is pretty hamas terrorists using social media pe too broadcast their n brutalitye we'll be right back. r to jump into the fun and join in the celebration. to help get you ready, your aspen dental denture team is celebrating 25 years of affordable care with an epic anniversary savings event. don't miss enjoying a moment with fast repairs in our onsite labs and 20% off your custom dentures. plus, we have a denture money back guarantee so you can smile with confidence. aspen dental. book today. ♪everything i do that's for my health is an accomplishment.♪ ♪concerns of getting screened faded away♪

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♪ >> hamas terrorists using socia media too help broadcaster savage brutality to the world. spreading images of their victims online which include israeli men, women, and children , using those pictures to recruit new extremist to the cost for it hamas us using cell phones and social media account of those victims to send to their families the graphic photos and taunting text messages, many of whom who don'

know if their family members ar still alive. with you think the point of thi is? take it you're exaggerating for this never happen. that was the opposite. >> used to hide more crimes, no it's a badge of honor. i don't know if it was like a month ago or two months ago on the five that we did video of these teens in las vegas mowing down a bicyclist and killing him . i said it was like ices videos in the fact that these visual realities are creating transformational change in your way in. it actually changes your brain. i believe that's what's happening here, these images of young terrified women pleading for help if they are let off to god knows what. if you don't watch that, you ar fleeing from eight necessary transformational change. you need to see those even though you don't want to, you have to see them because as lon as you don't see them you're living in a world of

make-believe. this exist out there. walking around the office, i start looking at these young women roughly the same age and i'm looking at them and saint m god, it could have been them. how can you do that to them? we need to get that cold water in the face. it won't be there permanently. if you look at this, it will stay with you forever. >> what is so gruesome is some of these pro- palestinian riots they are holding up on their phone pictures of mutilated people, so it is working to their horrific effect. >> it is viable. it is happening. we have to be honest brit socia media is used as a psychologica weapon in one of the things i saw today is a warning for parents out there that if hamas goes through with their threat of executing hostages, that you

know that's going to be on social media. it is important for us as adult to pay attention to it. you talk about little kids that have access to social media if the think about that going forward. one last thing, which is if the enemy is going to use social media as a psychological weapon against us, we have to figure out a way too use social media to our benefit. we can't be in this analog worl of warfare fighting against an enemy that is using this type o weapon on social media against us. we have to figure out a way to then utilize some sort of get some young people together, the state department, the cia, or the defense department and they're all working together in order to promote peace, democracy, and also to show people exactly what this is. >> it now that they are bombing gaza, there is going to be

civilians killed for it and they're going to use the same video to show how evil israel i pretty in that is no question. one of the first questions i asked today is are we in it for the long haul. biden says we support israel 10 point let it obtains its objectives for this whole thing about these gruesome images, i remember when i tried murder cases, half the time the judge didn't want the to look at the body. to know the horrific thing that happened to this human being. it, they want to protect the defendants right spirit ambivalence. at one hand there are the sicko who are going to see this it want to be a part of this and sign up to do this kind of thing , but on the other hand, if you see things like harvard and the hatred of jewish and

everything else, this is about the extermination of the people and it's not about territory. we see a brutal truth on the left when the media. what israel is doing and on the first day i think you said, we have to call for a cease-fire. >> it wasn't aoc. >> you know, that's not what, i we are in this 100 percent, we are in it until israel gets rid of hamas. >> huge psychological torture, parents having to monitor and o top of this in a different way. jewish icicles all over the country are asking parents too remove tik tok and instagram from the kids phones because yo don't even have to go looking for these things fair that's a crucial difference because when isis was operating, you had to go and search out the youtube page.

trained how to be edgy howdy, now it just shows up whether yo want it or not. my sister was telling me she ha deleted her social media apps because she doesn't want to be served this. she is not trying to live in a bubble about it, but that's a big part of this. also a crucial part of this as well to the judge's point about it not being territorial, we haven't talked a lot about what this actually is. they think heaven awaits them i they complete the mission which this is a religious war. if the endgame is not that your. and the ground, but you're goin up top you did a good thing by taking off a grandma or beheading a baby. >> the good thing is,. >> i meant hamas. >> riata is saying we're not closing the door on it. coming up straight ahead, brainwashed ivy league students are attacking israel and siding with the hamas terrorists.

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comes after the organizations a harvard university signed a letter that claims israel is entirely responsible. for the massacre of israelis. harvard's president condemning the student saying they don't speak for the university. the antidefamation league is calling out leaders to failing to show support for israel. >> where are the university presidents who gave clear statements about all these othe causes that mattered, black lives matter, stop hate, it matters. stand for ukraine, it matters. why are they silent on dead jewish people. why is my inbox empty with messages from ceos from major religious movements? y, where are they? >> greg, he has been great the past few days, but i thought that was a particularly smart point that he made about this. why do you think that is?

>> y? >> i don't trust that guy. he is incredibly woke. he contributes to this wilke mind virus that has led to the oppressed versus oppressor cult. the irony is obvious about the students, they are eager to condemn or destroy is a society that lets them live in quiet. if they were there, they would have been led to their slaughter . is easy here to say this stuff, but if they were there, harvard also shows you, this is coming from the intellectual spirit they are the ones that cheer distractions, the leftist marxist professors are always behind this sort of stuff they radicalize students. whether it's the underground or its blm which is now cheering o the terrorists. it's like they never met a revolution they didn't love. >> i would call for a mandatory meeting at the student center.

you can't graduate if you don't go and want too. >> or have a history lesson about that territory. >> that would help. i'm shocked that larry summers, columbia university, long beach state is shocked for this is what has been happening at colleges. people are always amazed that this is what's going on at thes colleges. it's like really, we've been telling you this has been happening. >> judge? >> and no, i kind of agree with what he is saying. why not for everyone else, but not for the jewish people. why do you only care about this one, this one, and this one. there is the bottom line, they don't just need to listen in history, they need to understan what this is about.

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>> welcome back, you're looking at a pro-israel rally in new york city. final thomts first dana. >> our thoughts and deepest sympathies have been impacted by the atrocities in israel and fox has made a million dollar donation to united jewish appeal for relief. it helps fight anti-semitism.

if you want to donate uja -- we will get it on the screen and put it on social media for you. >> greg. >> i go back to the a apologies for hamas and they're regressive. no matter what issue, they want to return to the stone age whether it's modern conveniences or science and in this case settling disputes. they wish to stlet -- settle disputes like genghis khan. >> jessica. >> i would say that for everybody who is interested

wants to get whatever it is spend some time actually doing research about the origins of this conflict, understand the region better before you join anything, you post anything, you do anything like that. this is one of the most deeply complicated geo political issues of all time. >> give the israelis room to do what they need to do to not get vengeance but to wipe out hamas as a threat they need patience into next week and the week after and reverse the iran policy starting locking them in, you gave them a chance, they don't deserve another. >> this is a very important moment in time. it is a historic moment and i think it's very important for people to be aware of how israel has been affected by this and what it means for us in our future. thank you for watching. we'll see you tomorrow. >>