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what is difference is the resolve of the people of israel, the anger, the horrors of attack are unprecedented, not just the conflict between hamas and israel, frankly in the history of the past 75 years, i don't know of a more barbaric, more brazen, more horrific attack since 19450. in that context, i am not sure israel is going to care, they care deeply about the united states and its views much less about the un. is -- eight or ten times over the last 20 years, it comes back worse and worse and worse and the people of israel, especially poor people living in -- demanding an end. >> david friedman, former ambassador to israel. that will do it. here is "the five." >> i'm dana perino along with
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jeanine pirro, jessica. this is "the five." >> as is israel responds to a terror attacks that killed over a thousand people, some democrats are apparently not comfortable da calling out the evil. reports are mounting of the brutality that hamas has inflicted on the people of its real including unthinkable acts of violence for women and children. president biden has been calling out the shear act of evil, but squad representative rashida tlibe turning her back when asked point blank about it. >> cutting off babies heads and burned children alive. do you support israel's rights to defend themselves against what is happening. you have no comment about childrens heads being chopped off? >> congressman, why do you have the palestinian flag outside
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your office if you do not condone. >> 24 hours after that, tlibe is responding, saying in an interview, i do not support targeting and killing of civilians whether in israel or palestine. the fact that some have suggested otherwise is offensive and rooted in bigoted assumptions about my faith and ethnicity. white house condemning squad democrats for their disgraceful comments. >> we believe they are wrong. we believe they are repugnant and disgraceful. our condemnation belongs scary with terrorists that brutally murdered, raped, kidnapped hundreds of isrealis. there can be no give case about that, there are not two sides here, there are not two sides. >> tlibe is not the only one causing outrage. black lives matter posting this, now deleted tweet. it shows the image similar to the paragliders hamas terrorists used when they massacred over 200 people at a
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concert. the chapter deleted the post and now say they aren't proud of the messages they sent out but they continue to "stand with palestine and the people who will do what they must to live free." i want to play this for you as well, president biden just gave some remarks in which he made a strong statement about silence. >> silence is complicit. i mean, silence is complicity. it really is. i want you to know i think you already figured it out. i refuse to be silent, i know you refuse to be silent as well. >> bret, hillary vaughn trying to get rashida tlibe. >> intrepid. >> she was. tlibe refuses to answer, she gives an interview later on. why would it be that hard, if you are going to put the palestinian flag outside of your office, great, explain. instead she turned her back and walked away. >> i don't think there is an answer, if you look at all of
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the things we are seeing every day coming in from those families, coming in the terrorist on baby, terrorist on families. it's not defensible i think that's why there was no response for 24 hours. i will say that the administration has done a pretty good job. >> yes. >> of kind of responding to this right away and forcefully. usually they've been around the edges, this was forceful. >> i think that, judge, it was clear to me when karine jean-pierre says what she says comes from the boss. >> i don't think there is any question. i join bret in recognizing that the president and his staff so far has made it clear that this is wrong. and do you know, when the president talked just now about silence is complicit, it was ellie ross well, silence encourages the torment i don't remember, not the tormented, doing nothing helps the abuser, not the
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victim. what we've seen in this country too long tells you all you need to know about rashida tlibe and her gang, she couldn't recognize this as evil. she wasn't able to say it's wrong. tells you everything you need to know. and for years in this country we've been mired in this area like a gray fog, what are we saying that hurts your sensitivities, hurts your feelings, what microaggressions am i causing to you suffer? but now when we're confronted with real evil, it's time for us to put on our big boy pants and say, this is what we have to stop. this is what we have to confront. and it's time to start recognizing that when they are done over there, they are coming over here. and if anyone thinks that these children that were burned alive or beheaded were beheaded after their mothers were murdered they are wrong. the last infliction of harm on these mothers was to make them watch their babies die. so, the
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people who can't tell the difference are shear sociopaths. and they have the audacity the next day to call a truce after this kind of violence? no, there should be no truce, we should arm israel to the teeth. we've got to destroy hamas, control the violence in gaza, to prevent an all out war and do it fast. >> jessica, your thoughts today. >> echo the sentiments from bret and the judge about this. i didn't think that president biden has been appropriately forceful and i'm glad to see how much it's being appreciated over in israel as well. i've seen reports coming out he has served as a sort of bomb, something that can actually sooth you at a moment when you are living incomplete abject terror. the point that's holocaust related, i would like to call that out, joe biden using those terms means what you are seeing now is akin to what happened when 6,000,000 jews were e
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terminated. rashida tlibe, someone i have spoken out against a number of times, she has made it perfect clear, she doesn't think two state solutions work, we know what side she is picking. she also missed an opportunity. she has a palestinian flag outside of her office, she is the only palestinian member of congress and every right to have that. when you are being asked about it why do you not take the opportunity saying palestine and hamas is different. my heartbreaks for isrealis and it breaks for innocent gaza. gaza has children. i don't know why she was upset. came to her defense yesterday saying, she's beside herself about what's going on, like give her a second on this. if you had the time to then process it and come back for that interview, educate people about the palestinian people and that they have
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respect for human life and hamas has corrupted that message, if that is what you feel about it. >> people in palestinian authority are victims of hamas as well. greg, i want to you listen to everybody -- not just greg. this is a crowd in michigan calling for number one in their views about hamas. >> free free palestine. >> no justice. no justice. >> free free palestine. >> free free palestine. >> free free palestine. >> free free palestine. >> free free palestine. >> so you listen to that looking at the video, that is not a small gathering. >> it's not. it's kind of scary, when you think about we talked about blm, we talked about the squad and see these crowds in dearborn are are these people evil or stupid? i think leaders are weak and scared because they've ridden to prestige on a terrible message that played
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into what you just saw, that population, right? they can't piss them off with stupid ideas like empathy or compassion because that just means you are weak and going back on your ideology. when you can't say that beheading kids is evil, you removed yourself from humanity. safe to say. it's all due to this sunk cost of years of believing in a terrible ideology that lineage makes you evil. that lineage prevents groups of people from actually working towards peace. it's ironic that progressives don't believe in progress. they believe in the past. you see this language here. not talking about justice real, i'm talking about here because that's here. it's now. we saw language early on, white privilege, that's a racist term that deemed you an oppressor based on lineage. neo marxist privilege that we must punish the colonizers, those are the
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people with white privilege, hence the free punch which again riots, loots, murder, defunding the police. if you dare question it, you dare question those years after the george floyd death, god help you. because the media defended this destructive impulse all the way through. practically fundraising for blm. you know, the whole point is, america, we tried to create a place where lineage didn't matter, of course it's a work in progress, right? but it was progress. we called it a melting pot for a reason. and now we have people cheering barbaric, it's not about the jews, it's us. when they shout colonizer, they are talking about you, too. there is so much ideological overlap with blm, activists, it's lineage that your past is your crime as an oppressor for simply existing. the origin
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story of you is a stain that must be scrubbed from the earth. that's why this is scary. that's why you should be worried. when you see those crowds out there, it's not enough to just say, hey, this one moment is bad. you know, our future misery is downstream. >> indeed, all right. coming up, israel is acting vatting 300,000 reservists, we have a live report next.
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>> brand new video shows isreali air strikes against hamas targets in gaza as the warren terrorists its fifth day. forces are gathering troops and artillery ahead of a potential ground invasion in the gaza strip. 300,000 reservists have been called up to fight. we are learning 22 americans have been killed and 17 are still missing. microphone in is near the border in gaza with the latest, mike. >> well, judge, i can tell you the last hour or so has been quiet here at the gaza border. but the palestinian rockets have been active tonight. while we are here in the northeast side of the gaza strip, we counted at least four groups of launches of palestinian rockets met by the
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iron dome intersep toes with a loud bang, the debris falling. the best we can tell -- over the isreali side of the border. but obviously there have been injuries, one of the rockets made it to tel aviv today and rockets that have crossed in recent days over the northern border. >> okay. mike, we are going around the table and i will start, do you know what the time line is for the u.s. and other countries to rescue the hostages? is it a question of days, weeks? how is this going to work? >> it all becomes very dynamic once you get a hostage involved. you can bet the diplomats are reaching out and doing everything they can through dialogue. everything is dicey and everything is very fragile. the easiest thing in the world is for a hostage taker to kill his hostage. so, those people are in great jeopardy, the family members who are at home who are nervous, unfortunately i
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have to say they have good reason to be very nervous because you have the isreali air strikes, army at the ready, people who have been proven themselves to be ruthless killers holding them. >> jessica. hi, make, thanks for joining us. curious about the vibe on the ground if people are hopeful about what's to come? obviously we've been hearing from people who are there and talking about their sons, their daughters are being held captive, they are remaining hopeful, now that the reservists are coming in, do you see a mood brightening they could come out victorious on the other side of this? >> well, it's tough to say victorious. if you look at past incursions into the gaza strip, there have been incursions into the gaza strip intended to stop the rocket fire, they didn't stop the rocket fire. back when i lived here there was an incursion intended to close the smuggling tunnels. well the smuggling tunnels aren't closed,
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the under size of gaza city, the whole gaza strip is a warren right now in which the hamas members, hamas fighters are currently hiding. so, you know, now benjamin netanyahu is dismantling the military, attack military i think people are just frankly nervous right now. >> hi, mike, it's bret. great job on the front lines, have you a lot of connections with the idf. it seems like they are getting ready eminently to go on the ground in gaza. that is really a big operation if you think about the tunnels underneath, if you think about 2.3 million people in this area that's, you know, less than washington, d.c. and a half. what about that when you talk to your sources? >> it's all so very complex and also complex because of the asymmetrical warfare. you mention the population of gaza.
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2,000,000 people plus in this tiny strip of land and you are going in there with tanks. you are going in there with air strikes. the civilian casualties are inevitable. when hamas made the decision to come out of the gaza strip, they made the choice there would be civilian casualties within the gaza strip. they are playing the game, the pr game is very much a part of it. the picture of the carnage that will come out is part of the strategy. israel have to calculate that as they move into the gaza strip. this is one of those operations where the strategy has to be ready before you make a first step in. bret. >> hey, mike, it's dana, if you could go north for us and tell us about the possibility of this expanding into a conflict with hezbollah. >> that is a very big concern. in fact, i have a conversation with an isreali defense source about that. there has been
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activity in the northern border, not just from hezbollah on the lebanese size but a probe from the syrian side, they believe it would have come from a palestinian radical on the syrian side but they can't prove that. what it is believed to be happening as far as the probes that are coming from hezbollah about a in the north are just that, probes. they want to see how israel will respond, hoping they will trip up, make a mistake that does open a front in this war and divert the isreali resources. >> hey, mike, it's greg. these terrorists gleefully paraded their war crimes on social media and i've just wondering, it's begun silent. why? why do you think that is? >> well, what i have palestinian sources hamas fighters are hiding. talking about the warrens, the network of tunnels that they built, hamas fighters
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are probably down inside the tunnels right now, they are not above ground. what i got from my palestinian, i reached one palestinian source, the air strikes are in he effective in killing hamas personnel, they are destroying infrastructure, that is happening right now. you talk about the ground offensive, if you want to go in and get the hamas fighters as president -- or prime minister netanyahu said, every hamas fighter is now a dead man. if that is going to happen that means the ground offensive simply has to be a component of this, greg. >> mike, thanks so much. please stay safe. thanks for everything you do. >> you got it. >> all right. biden finally calling out iran after facing backlash for letting them off the hook over the hamas attack. christian health care ministries could save you up to 40% today.
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israel. >> we moved the u.s. carrier fleet to the eastern mediterranean, sending more fighter jets there to that region. made it clear, made it clear to the iranians, be careful. >> the white house has been slammed for not taking a tougher stance on iran. reported that the regime helped hamas planned the attack on israel and gave the go ahead in a meeting last week. says there is no direct evidence linking iran to the attack and refusing refusing to refreeze the $6 billion tehran has sitting in a bank account. >> we haven't seen anything that tells us they specifically cut checks to support this set attacks or that they were involved in the training. and that obviously this required quite a bit of training by these terrorists. or that they were involved in any directing of the operations. >> you just played out all of the ways that iran is complicit in this and facilitated it over
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years of support for hamas. is that reason enough to freeze -- refreeze the $6 billion that the u.s. helped unlock for them to get in exchange for the prisoners? >> we have not yet had a dollar of that 6 billion spent and i will leave it at that. >> senator lindsey graham thinks it's time iran pay the price for sponsor of terror by hitting them where it hurts. >> i want to be clear, if you filled the hostages, the hamas has hostages, they start killing those hostages, if there is an attack that hezbollah about laugh and the north creating two fronts for israel, what i would do is i would bomb iran's oil infrastructure, the money financing terrorism comes from iran. it's time for this terrorist state to pay the price for financing and supporting all this chaos. yes, if you are in the iranians, this war escalates
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i'm coming after you. >> so, bret, iran has provided years of weapons and support to hamas. the question is, do they play a direct role or in direct role. >> judging from history, they didn't play no role. >> yeah, you know in this seat i really feel like using my arms a lot. and permission to use a metaphor. >> yes. >> be careful with that one. >> the administration politically seems blind as a bat to this moment, why not just say, freeze the 6 billion, stop talking about the 6 billion. it is so -- it seems so tangential to what the big picture is. iran funds 93% of the funding for hezbollah and hamas. 93%. you can talk about this hostage payment and the 6 billion all you want, not a dinar has gone out of the funds. not that you are thinking about politics all the time, maybe give them a break and stop talking about that and talk more about the threat from iran.
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>> yeah. judge, another example like a -- they foolishly thought they could negotiate a new start with iran and they can't give up that obsession. >> i don't know what they are thinking, i really don't. i think that the president gave a good speech yesterday. and i was impressed that karine general-pierre said there are not two sides with it. stay with t you're winning. claw back the 6 billion and just, you know, that's the end of it. and people will stop talking about. i don't understand why they don't do it. the truth is, hamas is making, what $80 billion an oil sales on the open market right now. it's not like that need that $6 billion. i mean during the obama administration, what was it 150 billion on palace, 1.7 billion on the airplanes. love letters we want to get back in with iran and the nuclear deal. stop it, this is -- this is an attempt to exterminate and a people and you have to show
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what side you're on, period. >> jessica, they can't seem to answer the question how the money will be spent, they keep say the sum is allocated for humanitarian purposes. that could mean anything. it frees up other monies to be used in non-humanitarian efforts. what say you. use your economics agree. >> it was political economy, anyway. thank god i have this job. it does seem like a gimme moment. i do think the story about this money actually does matter and israel -- i applaud jennifer griffin who has been recent leslie telling it, it's oil money, it's not in iranian account, u.s. officials are in charge of it. which should make it easier to take it off the midway table or whatever we're calling this place that it is being -- that it's hanging out right now, you can use that as a signal to iran, to say what you
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are you are doing, be careful, be careful or there is no chance that you will ever see this 6 bill i don't know for humanitarian purposes, civil society, whatever you were going to do with it. i do think that the fact that the white house and the isrealis refuse to say that this was iran and hamas is important. i don't see at this point where it's been made perfectly clear that their state sponsor is 93%, you just said, of terrorism. >> ambassador from israel said it to me from last night. >> amazing -- well terrible. an race he will is and the u.s. the have no problem admitting that. so, there must be something larger going on here. they must have information that the wall street journal reporters did not have about this. because i don't think it's discomfort with saying they are responsible versus they are complicit in this. and i'm curious as to where that goes. it also is an opportunity to help these vulnerable democrats which
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always on the prize, we need them to be able to win their seats again. if you hurt iran you also hurt vladimir putin who is behind all of this another step. that seems like a good gold of ours especially in support of israel and ukraine. >> you were in charge what would you do? >> if i was in charge of the respiration one of the things would say on the 6 billion, guys, we were dealt a bad hand, i am not going to keep playing this bad hand and losing. i am going to say, good point. 6 billion, frozen. and don't worry, we have our eye on iran. maybe i can't tell you exactly what is going on, believe me, we've got it under control and just say something like that. i don't understand it. the other thing is, it's not the $6 billion. remember they announced that that deal was going to come on september 11th. and then two weeks later on the first day of the united nations general assembly when the leader of iran is coming in to give a speech, what do they get, the headline
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oh, aren't we a legitimate country and not the terrorist organization that they say that we are. the other thing on this, to the greatest extent possible, the isreali government, the united states government needs to provide as much transparency on possible on the intelligence that they have on iran, to the greatest extent, that will be important. the last thing is, you are with us or you are not, with us or against it, it still mys, this is an ideological struggle between good and evil. the head of hamas lives a life of luxury, why? why is that allowed? is we would like him please, please deliver him to us tomorrow and we would have a better hand to play. >> see, you solved the well problem. coming up, students who are cheering on mass murdering hamas terrorists are about to learn a lesson. top wall street ceo's say they won't hire them.
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>> welcome back. ivy league students who have blamed israel for the horrific hamas terror attacks may have a tough time getting a job in the real world. hedge fund manager is calling on harvard to release the names of the students who signed on to a zamler said israel is entirely responsible for the bloodshed. he has been asked by a number of ceo's that the university would reveal their identities to ensure will they will not hire them. student bar association sent a message to the school said israel bears full responsibility for the terror attacks. new york post reports she has lost a cushy job offer at the law firm that was set to hire her. well, greg. what about that? >> well, i mean, the campus is ground zero for this mind virus
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of identity politics. it is a trade school who can indulge in the splendors of the west as they egg on its own destruction. we are seeing young people argue against the existence of the very country they live in. and this is not about limiting free speech, it's about private entities deciding not to employ the bowls who behead babies. let me put it this way in a more direct way, do jewish parents or any parents have the right to know about the post of a pro hamas student they might consider as a baby-sitter, would you want that person around your family? of course not. you have every right not to hire somebody because of their beliefs. >> i'm so sad i said permission to use a metaphor. jessica what about this, the ceo's are stepping up, johnathan neiman of the ceo of sweet green answering
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the call, tweeting out he would like to know the names, i am never going to hire those people. >> i know him from college. he went to georgetown and i spent a lot of time there, my college boyfriend was there and they were friends. that amtrak and down. is he a great guy. and i think that people do have a right. you cannot get a job because you were topless at a frat party or you smoked pot, and that was on social media, then this seems like it's w you see the world, what kind of employee you are going to be. what you will add to the culture. i do think it's funny about this woman head of the nyu student bar store case, she was going to be a public defender or something like that, she was going to a cushy job and get on the corporate law track and make millions of dollars which seems quite the opposite of these kind of views to he spouse yesterday i mentioned this i think there is a tremendous education chasm that happens about a lot of
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issues, you know, civics here in the u.s., we talk about it all the time, people clearly don't understand the origins of this conflict or what it actually means and their teachers aren't doing a good job explaining it them, which is a shame. larry summers and jason fuhrman at harvard a whole statement of his own, i usually don't get involved in this, i cannot be silent about it. >> judge. >> i think the interesting part of this is you have these students coming out of these prestigious institutions who now will find themselves unemployable. you know. the that they will be responsible for what they've said. they will held accountable and that's why, you know, the names of the ceo's should also be identified in terms of the ones who have indicated they, kind of buy into the we are not going to reward this kind of behavior. but you know, have you to look at it in a couple of ways. you know, such a thing as free speech. but
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there is also such a thing, and i think harvard need tries to at it this way, as leveraging harvard, as part of that free speech. and what they are doing is they are also bringing down harvard unless this is a place where harvard wants to be. and some young people are telling me that they call it performative activism. where they literally don't really believe in any of this stuff but they say it to get along, they say it to make sure they pass their grades and they don't have any problems at school. but now there is accountability, they are going to have to start having a moral core. >> i would say a couple things, i want -- want the names of all of them from harvard because he didn't want to hire them, i want their names because i never want to pay a single taxpayer dollar toward their student loans, i am not going to do that for any of them. there are some university presidents that are doing some great work. ben sass, now at the university of florida, his statement he put out today is
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one if you are thinking where to send your kids to school, it is very clear, he says he will respect free expression, protect the jewish students, anticipating big protests at schools coming up. moral clarity from a university president, former senator ben sass at the university of florida provided it. >> israel is at war the house could finally be getting a new speaker. when people switch their dog's food to the farmer's dog, the effectseli mic. but there's no magic involved. (dog bark) it's just smarter, healthier pet food. it's amazing what real food can do. ah mornings! cough? congestion? i'm feeling better. all in one and done with new mucinex kickstart. headache? better now. new mucinex kickstart gives all-in-one and done relief with a morning jolt of instant cooling sensation. it's comeback season.
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>> welcome back. house republicans trying to elect a new speaker. the gop getting one step closer today nominating house majority leader steve scalise, unclear if he has enough support or when the full house will be the jim jordan will support scalise. >> it's a critical time for the house of representatives to get back in session, to have a speaker of the house. we know what is happening as dear friend and close ally israel and what has been happening south with hamas. we need a speaker. and steve is the guy for that. >> dana, i was surprised a little impressed how smoothly this went this afternoon for
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them. >> well international crisis has a way to focus the mind. these are people who are serious about their jobs. and they also i think after the chaos from last week they are probably hearing from their constituents that we got real problems in this country from inflation and also real concerns about corruption and people who are republican voters really want to see where their inquiries are going to go into hunter biden and possible things with joe biden himself. but i was just noting here, that scalise doesn't have this in the bag and there were three, i believe three people who voted for him, three delegates from the u.s. terri toes, guam, america samoa and puerto rico they are not allowed to vote on the floor. maybe they will get there and figure out a way to do that. majority so narrow that --
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i don't know how they make the math work. it is good to see they are coming together, figuring out, i can't tour adult session. >> they need 217 to win. i don't know what is going to happen with george santos, superseding indictment last night. and a bill from new york republicans to kick him out. but what's your take on what's going on so far? >> look i think it was great that jim jordan said, look i think scalise is going to be great for this. and honestly i think that jim jordan in particular with his position on oversight i think he probably -- i think scalise is probably better off working with the administration and i love jim jordan where he is in oversight. i think he is a bulldog i think he is a prosecutor and i love him where he is. the only thing i implore republicans do is to get this together so you don't make fools of yourselves again. just get it done, the americans
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feel the weight of what's going on in the middle east and they want congress to function. >> greg, what are your thoughts? >> they didn't call me. >> so rude. and your name was in -- >> it was. i have some free time, i could do it via zoom. permission to be juvenile. we have bigger problems, you notice that the president today went after junk fees. right? god knows we've seen enough of hunter's. and secret service -- and then you throw in frank biden? family traffic's more junk than sanford and son. i told you i would be juvenile. >> there was a fair warning. one of those like msw. bret, very well connected in dc. what do you think tomorrow holds for steve scalise? >> i think they may come together. i agree with dana, they are at 212, they need to
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get to 217, it's possible the problem solvers say let's move this forward. they could throw a wrench in this, it's all about the math. >> it is all about the math but it's also about your new book. which has come out. to rescue the constitution. tell us about it. >> well, listen, i have written five of these and this is a lot of fun, it's a labor of love. if we think that we are partisan split country which we are, we should go back to the darkest moments where we almost didn't form a country. thanks to george washington, we got there across the finish line. so, there is a lot of narrative if people like history, this is a book for them. >> you look great on the cover. >> really worked on it, the powdered wig, the whole thing. >> i thought you stepped on your hair. >> oh, good. >> he still -- permission to juvenile. >> it is a beautiful cover. >> dana has been raving about it. >> but thank you. >> yeah, thank you for joining us. >> i will talk to you in a little bit.
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also moments that lead to positivity and unity is out there pray to examples, an anonymous man stood at the ticket counter at jfk and bough 250 tickets for soldiers going home he got called up here it and then across the world in sweden and maine named all appleton and his company sent 900 grosses to the israeli embassy there and in beautiful show of support look for the right stuff stuff to get think they've had more reservist show up for it it's pretty amazing great i have an fun thing too talk about. is close friends have a chance to see me and a singer-songwriter for country music mostly although smile, that song by uncle cracker, tha is one of his. we're going to do this book to her, you can get these tickets at little point bookshop.com. it will be nominated to angels and adoption per jt was adopted
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and there is a beautiful story about that and party like a rockstar. >> alright, you want to see me live, on november 5th a b in stamford connecticut in stamford , connecticut and then i think on december 3rd i'll be i albany, new york. i look better in person than i do on tv. let's do this. we have some late breaking fox news, take it away, london, england. if fox has become a desiccated fan of some acoustic guitar playing and actually gets his and that kind of amazing? it really does to the salvage be . >> i just coined that phrase. can get you have a way with words. usually go to fox. >> this is lockhart good, missouri man has squashed out h
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babbled 38 miles in a pumpkin, which he spent all summer growing. armed with kayak paddles and he wrote and drifted in the pitching 40 until he arrived safely at his destination beating the previous record. >> he is out of his gourd. >> that is very good. >> how does this originate as a thing to do? >> because you feed it, you can't have that many people over . >> do you have make homemade pumpkinseed's? my dad would do that. there is nothing like the homemade ones, just a little salt. it was great to be with you all today, that is that for us, hav a great night. >> bret: -|4 it was gre
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