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so many other celebrities choose the right side of this. thanks, man. great to see you. >> my pleasure. cheers. will: the final hour of "fox & friends" weekend starts now. ♪ ♪ [background sounds] 3 president we begin with that the fox news alert. in moments, seconds, it's officially past the deadline israel set for palestinian withs to move out of gaza city to the south of the gaza strip. the idf is mobilizing tanks near the nation's shared border. rachel: and now the reports indicate that egypt is refusing to allow u.s. nationals to cross the rafa border unless i humanitarian aid is allowed into
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gaza. will: and smoke is now filling the air in gaza as the the idf is reporting attacksen on their northern border. officials saying the shooting is coming from lebanon. that is a new development. you see the images on your with screen throughout the morning of explosions other gaza -- over gaza. if there are now -- and you've heard sporadic reports of firing on the northern border with hezbollah and lebanon, but we are crossing new bridges there on the escalation there in the north. that is certainly a notable development. pete: that is exactly right, will. let's go to trey yingst who might have more for us. he's lye on the ground in southern -- live on the ground in southern israel. the banner on our screen just read there's renewed fighting in the north. would you expect that an offensive triggering in the south could mean more violation in the -- violence in the north too? >> reporter: yeah, guys, it's the a great question. i do have some new information from the north.
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we can confirm this is an exchange of fire between southern lebanon and northern israel. this is the lebanese mill about the group hezbollah firing on the northern part of this country. the origin information if was mortar fire, then we got information about rocket pyre, so it's a mixture. the israelis, we are told, have already started their response likely using artillery and possibly drones to hit targets in southern lebanon. they continue airstrikes along the gaza strip. off in the distance we saw just a few minutes ago a large plume of smoke following an israeli airstrike along the border. they've been hitting gaza all day and night, more than 5,500 rockets fired from gaza, and some of those interceptions taking place overhead today. a very active southern front, but to your question when israel invades gaza -- this is a question of when, mt. if --
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there will be more pressure. it's part of the reason israelis have deployed troops and tanks to the northern border because they understand that that hezbollah may take advantage. it will be an incredibly challenging number offing weeks here as the situation in the south continues to boil. the tension in the north is obviously there as we see with the exchange of fire right now. and then you have the west bank where there are thousands of militants who are arm ad, and even as recently as last night, were engaged in gun battles with israeli forces there. this is quickly becoming a multi-front conflict and requires focus from the israeli military to make sure they're putting resources where hay need to be. rachel: egypt is saying we won't allow americans to come through that border unless you allow humanitarian aid to go in to gaza? what is happening with the americans? have you had any word of where they're at, where they're gathering? what's happening with them and
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what's our government doing to help them? >> reporter: yes. i've seen a photo inside gaza sent to me showing a group of americans and foreigners at that southern border crossing, the rafa crossing between gaza and egypt. we've seen those reports in the past 20 minutes indicating they're not allowing the foreigners to cross the border as previously thought would happy this time. it's 4:00 local time, and-supposed to end by 5:00. so less than an hour from what we're talking about right now they were supposed to close the border. and, remember are, they're not going to be doing this a lot at night, it's an active war zone. but it appears based on reports the egyptian president, el sisi, playing politics with the situation. and it is a dangerous plan. you know the amount of u.s. military aid that's given to the egyptians each year. there's an open line of communication. this is not dealing with a country like north korea that
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doesn't have clear lines of communication with the united states. this is considered a partner in the region, and there are both economic and military ties. so the fact that this is happening right now, there are certainly calls being made at the top level in the united states government and military asking questions about what is going on. will: so, trey, one more question as a follow-up. i think we're focusing on the right immediate issues here, and that is what's going the happen to american citizens in gaza, but the second being this potential for a multi-front war in israel. if this escalation in lebanon is happening, trey, i know you said that the israelis are very well aware of a devotion of resources, of not focusing too intently on gaza lest you open yourself up to vulnerability somewhere wells. what does that entail? is that just lebanon? is that the syria? where else do the threats exist for israel? >> reporter: yeah, it's also syria, it's a variety of locations. someone once described the iranian regime's reach as an
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octopus and its tentacles. in different parts of the world, you have major threats. the you're looking at a map of the middle east, you've got israel, the west bank, gaza, and hen the you have a variety of other locations where threats are going to come if from. inside gaza you've got hamas and islamic jihad and smaller palestinian factions. they've all told fox news on camera they do receive support from the iranian regime. then you have the lebanese militant group hezbollah in southern lebanon, and they have thousands of precision-guided missiles, rockets, ground troops, everything you can think of to launch a ground and air campaign against the jewish state. then you have iranian-backed groups in syria that have fired mortars into claimed israeli territory. and then you can go further east to iraq where there are iranian-backed shia militias that could launch drones that could travel to israel. then you go to iran, iran has long range ballistic missiles that they would be willing to fire at israel if this
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escalates. you have iranian-backed houthi rebels in yemen. this is a multifaceted thing that the israelis have to worry about, and it's part of the reason why they're asking for more missiles. they understand that the iron domeing this is the primary system used in israel in the south and the north, can get overwhelmed. and if they start receiving pyre from other countries and other renales, all these iranian-backed groups at the same time, they'll have to use larger missile systems. they have two other systems, the arrow system which can intercept ballistic missiles, and then you have david's sling between the iron dome9 and the missile system. either way, they're going to need the missiles to shoot down rockets and and missiles being fired at israel, and they have to prepare for this venn venn call -- eventual ity. they have to be prepared just in case. will: all right. thank you so much, trey. pete: thank you, trey. will: as fighting rages on in israel in the south and now to the north as well, approaching
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the border with lebanon, secretary of state antony blinken is heading to the united arab emirates. rachel: earlier he met with saudi arabia's foreign minister. pete: alexandria hoff is live to outside the white house with the latest on those meetings. >> reporter: and, you know, they were two the very different can tones shared in this meeting. you had saudi arabia's foreign affairs minister, he did not mention hamas once. then you had secretary blinken brought up hamas immediately as the sole source of civilian suffering, that hamas is the reason behind this issue that we have right now. he called it a terrorist group that must be stopped. >> the priority needs to be to the stop further civilian suffering. and here we need to find a way to quickly deescalate the situation. >> hamas is not representative of the palestinian people or their legitimate aspirations for the future. hamas is a terrorist group. its only agenda is to destroy the9 state of israel and to murder jews, and it's important
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that the entire world see it as a such. >> reporter: secretary blinken added this was a time for moral clarity. and this meeting comes at a critical time. sources tell reuters that the saudis are shifting their focus away from talks to normalize relations with israel, instead moving to speaking with iran's president in an effort to hinder an escalation of violence across the region. and as gaza braces, sources tell our jacqui heinrich that the u.s. had urged israel to delay the action until safe pass passage for palestinians could be can secured. the the biden administration is attempting to locate 14 americans. president biden spoke to the families of the missing yesterday in a conversation he called gut-wrenching. >> to those holding american hostages in gaza, you say what? >> i say we're going to do everything in if our power to the find them, everything in our power. and i'm not going to go into the dedetail of that, but there's --
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we're working like hell on it. >> reporter: for americans stuck in gaza right now as you were just speaking with trey about, the administration says it's tracking 500-600 palestinian-americans in gaza who have sought out more information about how they can leave. will, rachel, pete? rachel: thank you very much. will: speaking of one of those american citizens, we spoke to a, an american citizen who is living in israel, and she talked about so many of her family members who have been taken hostage from the kibbutz they were living in southern israel. do you remember how many she said? rachel: five from the age of 12 to 80 years old. can you imagine? will: she is said four of them were french, dual citizens with france, and i believe the 80-year-old is also an a american citizen. listen to abby. >> you could hear them in the house, they had overturned furniture, and i could hear gunfire. the last a messages that we have from them are a fear that they won't make it out.
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they are saying good-bye and that they feel like this for them was the holocaust. hamas uploaded the video of the 12-year-old in their hands, in the hands of terrorists. we are working with the governments of both of those countries and with any government that will help us put pressure on hamas over people or that are backing hamas to allow for the release of these people. this is a war crime against the geneva convention. holding elderly and young children and children with special needs, it is a war crime and something that is beyond evil. rachel: it certainly is a war crime, and abbey said she got confirmation that her family -- initially she couldn't hear from them. they lost communication. but then hamas uploaded video footage, and she saw her terrified 12 year old cousin surrounded by terrorists, shirt off, arms bound behind his back. it is the one of the most disturbing things you could ever
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see, because you just can't imagine what's going through that poor boy's head. and, of course, she said to us that she felt confident -- there you see a little bit of the footage. it's just, it's just horrible. she said she feels a little bit confident, she feels fairly confident and reassured by what joe biden and the state department are doing. we had a guest on earlier who's working to to get americans out, and he says he's underwhelmed with what the government is doing to help hostages. pete: yeah. i mean, i don't know -- she also said she has no confirmation since then of where they might be, hasn't heard anything, and i don't know whether to be encouraged or discouraged what to make of the fact that we haven't yet seen hostage videos or even public demands which could mean that there are things, hopefully -- we pray to god it means there are things happening under the surface between the israeli government, the u.s. government, the terrorists and hamas in gaza, a negotiation for these hostages.
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we don't have confirmation for any of that because that would be a way to avoid a full scale hostage rescue which would be one of the largest in history. incredibly dangerous across the spectrum in gaza considering the tunnels that exist there. so we are preparing for what will be an onslaught likely and an invasion from israeli forces, but it's a hostage rescue layered on top which erin cohen, who was on with us earlier, kind of i alludedded -- allude might be at the forefront of any operation. you imagine how complex that would be. will: my takeaway from that interview as a well is that it's firsthand testimony to the atrocities that have happened in the past week. i 100% believe the first thing to die in any war isth truth. and i understand there is propaganda from think single side, and i think we should all come to expect that. when you see something like what happens in ukraine with volodymyr zelenskyy, we should understand that's to be expected.
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that will happen in this war, and it will happen on all sides, and it's our job and our elected leaders' job as well to sort out the truth. there is a debate going on about the extent of the atrocities, you know? people speak specifically to the existence of 40 decapitated wake i -- babies. whether or not that the specific detail has been confirmed or not is beside the point that we have seen videos of babies that were killed, babies that were kidnapped, babe with byes that are alive and being used as human shields being rocked by hamas soldiers. you can see these videos. and as you pointed out, rachel, the video confirmation of abbey, in the case of a 12-year-old being paraded away from hamas. these are confirmed. pete: these are facts that civilians were specifically targeted. we mow that. rachel: americans in this case too. pete: americans as well. that a peaceful music festival was surrounded on three sides by three different elements of
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hamas gunmen who intentionally fired at crowds of non-combatant civilians. that we know to be true. we also know that whatever's about to happen in gaza to include the bomb that just dropped there is going to be messy. we mow that israel is calling for -- we know that israel is calling for civilians to leave. we know hamas is telling those same civilians to not to leave because human shields are beneficial for them. death counts are beneficial for them inside the international community and the inevitable both sides that will come out of this hen those numbers rise. they believe it helps their cause -- will: i think it already has begun to help their cause if reports last night that saudi arabia has put on ice its potential peace deal with israel. and, in fact, conducted a call with iran. in the past week. that suggested many some way -- in some way this is already beginning to play into the hands of the greater geopolitical threat to israel. rachel: it's really hard to imagine that just a few years
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ago we had peace in the middle ooh east and what has been undone, through energy policy, by the way -- pete: we were on our way to weaving together the prevent defense of the driving of a wedge like this if saudi arabia had made peace. rachel: exactly. and now we're in a moment where a lot of americans are wondering not just for the safety the of the hostages, especially the american hostages that are there, but if they to do something terrible to our american hostages, will that bring us into a broader, you know, bring us into the war? we could have a broader war. now we have war in ukraine, we're overextended militarily. we're broke as a nation. there's all kinds of ramifications here, and a a lot is hinging on the next couple days, truly. will: those are all part of -- every bit of this conversation needs to be had. the humanitarian crisis that will unfold in gaza. rachel: absolutely. will: the serving of american interests every step of the way of american involvement needs to be debated.
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rachel: ray yeah. will: i wanted to share this quickly, there's a podcast called the all in podcast, it has david sacks and others, and in that conversation these are tech investors in silicon valley said, you know, i wouldn't describe might be -- i would describe myself as somebody on the left, and i moved gradually to center and now slightly to the right. i think we need to act knowledge what appears to be ab an objective reality of the quality of things accomplished during the trump administration. if you do not like the messenger, you still have to acknowledge the message. and the message was the southern border was secure, the economy was strong, and you had accomplished the abraham accords which was beginning to siphon off this block of people against israel. and, in fact, set the predicate for saudi arabia to start moving towards israel. you can't ignore those accomplishments, and they are monumental. rachel: and also monumental, energy independence.
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donald trump took us to energy independence. $30 billion in revenue is what the iranian regime has made since our green new deal president came in to office. in many ways this war that we're seeing in part brought to you by climate change zealots. pete: something to pay attention to on the ground for our viewers, developments in the north. if hezbollah truly gets involved, it will be a small of how much iran wants to escalate this conflict even more. here to help us answer that question is idf spokesperson lieutenant colonel peter lerner live from israel. let's start with that point, because we're hearing reports of increased conflict in the north. what's your assessment right now as your troops are arrayed of the situation in israel? >> yeah, it's an extremely, extremely delicate situation as we speak. and, indeed, the border with lebanon is extremely volatile,
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and is we've had some exchanges there. i'm just getting some reports of several rounds that were actually fired from lebanon towards the forces on the ground. so i'll follow up during the interview and try and get some more information for you. yeah, the situation is such as we're conducting our strikes existence hamas, their infrastructure, their leaders, their terrorist infrastructure, their base of operation, the fortified terror hub, it's becoming extremely difficult in order to separate the two rein thats. we're doing that -- arenas. we're doing that effort because we believe we need to be focused on the main front, hamas, changing the paradigm in the gaza strip so that the hamas can never, ever butcher our babies in their bedrooms. and that is currently the situation. as we mauve and look forward towards the north, indeed, hezbollah is a substantial terrorist organization that is holding the people of lebanon
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hostage. they have some 120, 130,000 missiles and rockets pointed in our direction, so it's a serious, serious problem. will: lieutenant colonel, what is your level of expectation? we talk about this spiraling into a regional conflict. you have the hot spots, as you said, on your northern border with lebanon. obviously, there are threats beyond that as well whether or not they come from syria or all the way from iran. as you posture -- as the israeli military is posturing itself for what comes next, how seriously do you have to prepare for all of those threats? >> i would say 300,000 men and women seriously. we recruited a huge amount of reservists, unprecedented in the history of israel, and i think that goes to show how serious we are that we need all of this manpower, womanpower to fulfill our mission on defending the state of israel. so many of those are now obviously focused down south towards the southern arena,
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towards gaza, but also many of them are defending the frontier with lebanon and also with syria. this week over the past few days we've also had a few mortar rounds from the syrian side of the border and into the golan heights. is so, yes, we are preparing ourselves for that reality. we have a, i would say we have a vast spectrum of tools in our kit box, and we are ready for, to defend the state of israel if need be. rachel: lieutenant colonel, how do you balance the defense, even the retribution for what happened in those, in those communities along the border, the massacre that happened with the lives of the os to to -- hostages? because i presume that in preparing for this now ground invasion and some of the other actions that have been taken militarily that that might actually endanger the lives further of the hostages. >> so our operations now in the
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gaza strip are focused on two, maybe three main issues. first of all, targeting, specifically targeting hamas' capabilities. so we've with taken out in the last 24 hours one of the leaders who penetrated our border. he's been killed in an a airstrike by our forces. we are focusing on their special capabilities. they have drones with explosives that they used to attack our positions last saturday, and so we were able to take out those capabilities. we're targeting their command and control position and, indeed, when we look at the enemy we are against, the type of people we're up against, i want to share with you something that we found on the body of one of the terrorists that we killed in the exchange. i don't know if you've seen it, this has been some video, but it was this flag. and i don't know if you recognize this flag.
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so when israel is saying, when israel is saying this is hamas is isis, this is what this guy, this terrorist, this butcher was carrying in his pack. so we know who we are up against, and that's why when we are talking about balancing the needs, we know we have to take this enemy. we need to defeat this enemy. and we also need to balance out, differentiate the civilian population from the terrorist organization. and so this morning and since yesterday morning, actually, we have instructed the people of the northern gaza strip, the core hub of hamas' control and command systems where their leaders hide, where they're hiding now, we've instructed people to go beyond in order to differentiate between the terrorists and the civilian population that are not involved. it's a serious, serious challenge. rachel: yeah, it's very scary.
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i saw the pictures of those terrorists holding the baby, and i can imagine if i was the mother, i don't care about anything except bringing my baby home, so concern can. pete: no doubt. and, colonel, we know you've warned the civilian population to leave. we know hamas has told people to stay. if a grown incursion were to happen, would the israeli army treat anyone if in that area who's on the street as a potential enemy combatant? when you think of rules of engagement, how do you deal with an enemy that also drops their uniforms and dresses like civilians? how do you manage that? >> well, obviously that is the challenge of urban warfare and fighting a counterinsurgency and terrorist organization that hides itself beneath the houses, in the schools, in the courtyards, in the -- you know, in hospitals, in medical facilities. this is the challenge. and, of course, that is what they will try to do. we have very good intelligence,
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we have strong understanding. we've picked up some of the footage that they've distributed in the aftermath of the attack or during the attack, during the massacre, and we have been able to identify terrorists and target people that have already participated in the attack and take them out because we know how to get to them. so i'd say, yeah, the current situation is one where we need to differentiate. it is a huge challenge. the people of gaza themselves are not the enemy. hamas is the enemy, and we need to destroy hamas' capability to use the gaza strip as a place to govern terrorism from. and that is what we're up against. will: well, colonel lerner, thank you so much for being with us this morning on "fox & friends." >> thank you. pete: godspeed. let's bring in retired u.s. army
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brigadier general anthony if data who joins us now -- tata. your response to the characterization the lieutenant colonel just gave of what they're up against. >> hey, pete, good morning. thanks for having me. i hope the entire world was watching the last 10 minutes of "fox & friends." what the colonel laid out is exactly the situation they face, and i would, all add to that they've got the tactical fight in gaza, but they know that they've got to do and they're preparing the battlefield with pre-assault fires, intelligence preparation on the battlefield. they're also looking, they've got an operational issue, fight up in golan where whether or not hezbollah is going to just try to fix forces there to prevent the israeli defense forces from massing in the south or whether or not they're going to attack. israel has to commit forces to the north to prevent either scenario. and then they've got to the strategic fight with iran. and that's where the united
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states could help if the biden administration could find the wherewithal to take on iran in a diplomat you can sense and also -- diplomatic sense and also economic sense and not do some of the things they've done where it appears that they're supporting iran. we need to take, we need to look at this fight in those three levels, strategic, operational and tactical, and try to take some pressure off of israel in a strategic sense, get -- be engaging the middle east nations that are beginning to waver and keep them off the a back, keep them the on the sidelines while israel takes on this national security threat that they've got in gaza. what very much could be like grozny, you know, in the chechnyan war in 2000. will: that's where i was going to actually go, general. more looking for an american
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corollary. in your experience, you have a good grasp of what the israeli mill -- military faces in gaza. i've heard comparisons to fallujah, you just mentioned grozny, what would be your analogy perhaps of what they're going to face that we may understand? >> yeah. so fallujah's not a bad example. we had some help from the sunnis there. so so i don't know that there's going to be any help from any citizens in gaza. so the fallujah example, for me, is not a perfect parallel from the rubble and the high-rise tunnel, you know, yeah, it's a great example, but there will be no help to israeli forces moving through there like we had in fallujah and surrounding areas. so that's why i chose grozny as maybe a better example which the u.n. later claimed the most
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destroyed city on planet earth. so we've, you know, there's going to be snipers, there's going to be tunnel rats, there's going to be drones, ambushes. israel has their work cut out for them, and the colonel laid it out very well. rachel: general, quick question for you. i'm really concerned about -- i mean, you're a military man, so i know you've got all these military answer as, but another -- answers, but another part of this is the diplomatic side of things. i'm really surprised that egypt has said we're not going to allow americans to to crosses back over into safety on their side of the border. we see the failures of diplomacy in ukraine and the situation we're in there now. how worried are you that we have these so-called allies as people surrounding, countries surrounding this, you know, this region that we actually give withs of dollars to -- billions of dollars to to who are in many cases thumbing the nose of even the safety the of american citizens in getting out of gaza? >> yeah, rachel, you're exactly right.
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this administration, they're probably the thing that concerns me the most is the ineptness of the state department -- rachel: yes. >> -- and secretary blinken. they take these positions from an academic point of view, and they don't take into account the existential threat to israel just by one example. and a good example would be they offered zelenskyy radioa ride out on the eve of the invasion with russia-ukraine and they had no clue what a they were doing. they wanted to decapitate the ukrainian government on the eve of the invasion, essentially. when you look at this situation, that's exactly what i was saying. and you make a great point, the state department needs to be able to engage iran, saudi arabia, egypt and act as a deterrent threat, shape the battlefield so that israel can focus on its near fight. rachel: yeah. and so we don't get drawn into
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rachel: we're back with a fox news alert. we are now to 30 minute past israel's ted theline for palestinians -- deadline for palestinians to leave gaza. right now a giant plume of smoke over the city from the latest round of strike. and as israel prepares to launch a full ground invasion, fresh fighting is breaking out on the border with remember. non. mike tobin is lye on the ground in southern israel with the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. there are two major activities taking place here in the area of the gaza strip. one of them, of course, is the evacuation with of civilians from the city of gaza to the
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southern part of the gaza strip. the other, of course, is the ramp-up to what appears to be an inevitable ground invasion of the gaza strip. and that includes the weakening or the disruption of the hamas command structure. the irk df i says the air force, indeed, is taking out high value targets within the hamas structure. one of those people they say they hit is a planner of the attacks just a week ago. he's also one of the thousand palestinians who were released in that deal to free israeli soldier gilad. he is one of the people who got out, he went right back into the terror business, and now he is dead. also the director of aerial operations and part of the naval commando force, they call themselves that, he also was said to be one of the planners of the october 7th attacks of just a week ago. he also is dead. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: the barrage of attacks overnight targeted
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militants. these militants are the ones that executed the atrocities on saturday. with we attacked military headquarters for over three hours. if the idf eliminated based on intelligence the head of hamas air a y'all system in gaza city who was largely responsible for the massacre on saturday. >> reporter: and there are some major developments in terms of that refugee crisis of civilians coming out of gaza city. you are -- you have this herculean task to get. 1.1 million people south of the danger zone. israel opened up two evacuation corridors today -- or,ish say, allowed the evacuation corridors. the time has just expiredded. also a deal was struck to open the rafah border crossing at the southern end of the gaza strip that connects with with egypt, and has to allow people with foreign pass pass pores including u.s. citizens an opportunity to get out. as far as what is happening in
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the north, the situation is very tense there. israel continues to take anti-tank fire, rocket fire from hezbollah. israel is responding, but things haven't entirely blown up at the northern border. guys, back to you. rachel: thank you, mike. appreciate that. stay safe. israeli defense forces confirm that over 120 civilians are being held captive in gaza by hamas terrorists. six of those are related to our next guest, three cousins and their children. they are 3 -- those are twins -- and a 5-year-old were kidnapped by hamas terrorists last week. hannah -- lana joins us now. i'm so sorry it is under these circumstances. i understand that you have some because that you know they're alive. how did you learn that? >> yes. the idf contacted my family yesterday morning telling us that her alive in gaza.
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rachel: what is the last thing that you heard or from them? >> the last thing we heard was on saturday morning they were in their bomb shelter kind of waiting. they thought it was going to be just the usual sirens, but then as it progressed and houses started to burn, the smoke was filling their home. my cousin, you know, was in contact with her aunt, and she sent her a voicemail saying we're not gone many that make it think we're going to make it, we love you. rachel: yeah. of and then you saw that video footage of them being taken away by terrorists. did the idf tell you anything about their condition or just that they were alive? that footage is heartbreaking, by the way. >> yeah. we just know that they are alive. we have no other information about their whereabouts. rachel: iowa land a that, yesterday you -- alannah, yesterday you spoke at the u.n.,
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you said we want peace. we don't want more bombs, rockets, blood or tears. we want our family back immediately. i'm wondering how you feel today because there are rockets and there are bombs, and we just had a lieutenant doll knell -- colonel from the israeli military on, and we tried to talk to him about how they're balancing their desire to defend and even to secret arely abuse for what happened versus the safety of these prisoners and especially these young children. >> my number one concern night and day is getting our family back. so it's really all i can think about. rachel: yes. >> i love them so much, and me and my family and the rest of my family in israel, it's really all we can think about, is getting our family back and how to get all of these hostage as home. hostages home. rachel: from the information that you have been given over the last couple days, of course, this most important and very
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hopeful sign that they are alive at least, how hopeful are you, how confident are you in both the american forces that are trying to rescue hostages and also the israeli efforts? >> i'm hopeful, like i said, i said that yesterday. in hebrew we say -- speak e speak tongue which means there is hope because we know they are ace live. but i don't have really any opinion on whether or not -- [laughter] i have confidence. i'm just desperate. i'm simply, our family is desperate, and we want information and we we want our family returned to us as soon as possible. i want to see our governments focus on that being the priority. if. rachel: yeah. i have to tell you, or i'm a mother as well, and i -- as i saw all of this stuff come through this morning as we're doing this very long show, all i could think about is that that
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would be my number one concern as well. just prioritize these children -- >> yes. rachel: the civilians who have nothing to do with any of this. >> exactly. and they're just human beings. they're human beings who, you know, live on a kibbutz, on a peaceful community in the south of israel. they want peace. they don't want this anymore either. they just want to come home. our babies are there. they don't deserve this. rachel: no, they sure don't. just want you to know, alana, that we are praying so hard for you and for them. we're very heartened by the fact that you heard they are alive, and we're praying that those who have them will have some mercy and some humanity and that they will be released. >> yes. rachel: thank you so much. >> thank you. rachel: i know this is really hard, but i think it's important that people hear your voice and that there's awareness as well. >> thank you for having me. ray e rae of course. god bless you and all of them.
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all right, thank you. israel's now ordering the northern part of the gaza to evacuate as a ground invasion looms. it's now been a week since the deadly hamas attack on israel, but the u.n. still hasn't labeled the deadly islamist organization as a terror group. foreign policy adviser to israel's prime minister netanyahu joins us live to react. ♪ ♪
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>> hamas committed their large scale atrocity because they relied, and i'm sorry for what i am about to say, rely on the u.n. as it has done in the past to come to their aid. they believe that the international community will now tie the hands of israel from erasing a hamas' terror infrastructure. pete: america's best middle east ally fighting to defend its very right to exist as hamas brutally murdered more than 1300 israelis, beheading innocents, taking them hostage. yet that's apparently not enough for the u.n. to label them a terror the organization. a foreign policy adviser to prime minister netanyahu joins us now. ofir, thank you for being here. you're fighting an enemy on the battle feald in hamas, there's no doubt. but you have for long been fighting the international, so-called international
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community, specifically the u.n. as well. how do you manage that? >> well, we're at a moment, clearly, of there's a test for moral clarity right now. that's the moment right now. you're either with civilization, or you're with these savage hamas terrorists. hamas is worse than isis. on october 7th they came into israel, took civilians, men, womenning children, grandchildren -- women, children, grandchildren, tied up children, burnt them alive. these are staffages. if -- savages. today we are facing a test of clarity, moral clarity. if you're with civilization, with civilized countries, you will dethe announce -- denounce these savages from hamas. period. pete: yet many countries won't. yet the u.n. seems to not be
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willing to do that. will that a change the way israel stares down this threat, the way you so clearly articulate? >> first of all, we're very, we appreciate all the support we're getting from there our key allies, our allies around the world, the united states, the united kingdom, canada, most of the -- from europe, almost, throughout the world we're receiving support, and they understand that it's a war civilization against these savages from hamas. our focus right now is to dismantle hamas. dismantle their capability of ever doing anything against israel again. not only against israel, against anybody else. because we're not their only enemy. just standing on the front line right now against hamas, and we're going to win because there's no other, there's no other alternative but to dismantle hamas, and that's what
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we're focused on right now. pete: no doubt. o finishes hir, part of what hamas is count on is israeli casualties. what's your message to egypt and their unwillingness to allow refugees to go in and also to qatar which houses the leadership of hamas? >> the message is clear, let the people go. let the people go, get out of harm's way. the hamas targets civilians, israelis and hides behind their own civilians in hope thatup pressure or -- that u.n. pressure or other kind of pressure will be laid down on us. it's not going to happen. it's just not going to happen. this is not another round of violence. this is war. it was a war that was waged against us on october 7th by these savages. it is the a war that we are going to bring now to hamas and
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dismantle them. it's a day that they will regret ever happened. pete: no doubt. should the leadership of hamas be extradited from qatar? i mean,ing they're free to operate effectively. >> clearly, as i said, hamas is worse than isis. is it even imaginable that a country would have diplomatic relations with isis? that's crazy. that's ridiculous. so for that same logic, no country, no civilized country should have any relations with hamas. it's outrageous. the test is clear today. the morality test is clear today. either you're with civilized countries or you're with these savages from hamas who burn babies. period. pete: you have spoken clearly -- >> we are going to dismantle hamas, period. pete: godspeed, sir. pete: godspeed, sir. thank you fo r your time. we'll be back in a moment.
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will: israeli defense forces preparing for a massive ground invasion in the intensifying war against hamas terrorists. our next guest warns when it comes to collateral damage, hamas doesn't care. pete: our next guest knows all about fighting the war against terror firsthand, former navy seal team three commander jocko
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willink. thanks for being with here. how do you fight against an enemy that doesn't care? >> well, you look at what hamas if' objectives were or in this attack, they're not looking to further the two-state solution. no, all they want is just chaos and mayhem and death and hatred. and i think they've achieved that goal, and it's going to be a rough fight. rachel: what are the chances that we can get, we or the israeli hostage, you know, military that are trying to rescue these hostages, what are the chances that they can actually get them in the middle of a situation like this? >> this is a really tough scenario with these hostages. it is going to take the actual forces moving in to gaza and getting some control so they can gather some intelligence and make those attempts, but it is going to be extremely difficult. will: so a practical question, jocko. you've got a situation where
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hostages are used as human shields, you're in rubble and an urban violence, and -- environment and, pete, you have to assume the enemy is not wearing marked clothing. they're not in uniform. and battle, i mean, the battle lines are drawn in every direction. there's no front. i mean, how do you, how do you pick out the enemy and achieve an objective? >> i think the advantage that israel has here that they need to take advantage of is they have time. and they need to do this in a very slow, methodical way, move through the city very slowly. there's going to be all kinds of dangers there as you pointed out, booby traps, ieds, snipers. it's going to be a real problem moving through there, so i think they need to move very slowly as they push into the city. try and do their best to keep themselves safe and keep the civilians that are there -- the palestinian civilians, these
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are, like, they've been abandoned. hamas doesn't care about them at all. and it's a real problem that it seems like the world thinks hamas is in support of the palestinian people. they're not. they don't care about the palestinian people at all. the israelis care more about the palestinian people than hamas does. and so israel needs to move very slowly, very methodically through this, through this area, and it's going to be a very tough fight. pete: jock on -- jock on o, how much do tunnels -- you're used to fighting urban warfare, but not when there are are entire cities underground as well. >> the tunnels are not vulnerable at all to airstrikes, so really the airstrikes that israel's doing at this point, i think they can kind of stand down from the airstrikes and move to the ground offensive because these tunnels that are underground, the airstrikes aren't going to have any impact. they're going to have to go and
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clear those things. it's going to be dangerous work, but this is what has to be done after what hamas did to israel. rachel: do you suspect that they're going to hold off on any major attacks this, you know, imminent ground invasion until more of these civilians are cleared out? because at this point it looks like it's going not so rapidly in terms of evacuationment and also -- advantage -- evacuation. and also you're having the problem on the egypt side, they're saying they're not going to let anyone through. >> like i said, israel should take their time. i don't think they should rush. i think the more time they give the civilians to leave, the better. that being said, it sounds like hamas is denying the opportunity for the civilians to leave anyways because, as a i said, the a hamas does not want a solution. they don't want peace. hay don't want, they don't want prosperity in that region. they want death, they want destruction, and that's what their going to push for this
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el -- they're going to push for this whole time. will: what do you think about america's involvement? if there's american hostage, is will there going to be american operators at some point trying to retrieve them? >> if there's american hostages, there will be americans going to do their best to save them. rachel: wow. pete: he knows what he's talking about. we'll see where and when. jocko will ink, thanks very much for your time. rachel: thanks, jocko. pete: by the way, join fox corporation supporting the israel emergency fund in association with the united jewish appeal, just scan the qr code or donate at ujafedfinishes y.org. will: that's going to do it for us today here on "fox & friends." stay tuned to the fox news channel for continuing coverage for the conflict in israel all throughout the day. rachel: and we'll be back tomorrow. [background sounds
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