♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪ ) constant contact's advanced automation lets you send the right message at the right time, every time. ( ♪ ) constant contact. helping the small stand tall. >> all right. a week ago it all started with that attack at that festival and much more originally claiming the lives of 250 people. it ultimately took more than 1200, ultimately with the back and forth in this, more than 3,000 are dead, and it

intensifies. a ground war expected any moment along the gaza has yet to materialize. the fear is there and so is the rampant advice, we're told israel will be targeting from multiple sites. egyptians are showing support, but warning it would have limits, that is to get people out of there. they weren't referring to the invasion. we're learning as well, right now, that with all of this going on, turkey is concerned that israel's response and our very presence with the gerald r. ford in the neighborhood will increase the chances for a massacre. let's go to trey yingst right now in southern israel, what he's seeing amidst the fast-moving developments. trey. >> yeah, neil, good morning. we're following the developments out of the gaza strip and also, along the northern border with israel. some significant developments on the northern border as

fighting appears to continue between hezbollah, the lebanese militant group, and also the israeli forces on the northern part of the border. i want to take you through video that we're getting from the israeli military that show the hours after these militants invaded southern israel, they were not just trying to get in from the ground, but also from the sea and the israeli navy releasing video showing how they were firing on different hamas operatives inside the sea in the mediterranean trying to get into israeli territory. it looks like a fire fight in the sea, using machine guns trying to hit the palestinian militants that came from gaza and a fast-paced video that we received from the military. all of this happening as rocket fire continues from the gaza strip. today, you can hear an israeli drone overhead and we've seen the rocket fire for ourselves as the israelis respond with air strikes. just last night we were here along the border and i want to show you what it was like in the dark. take a look. you can see behind me a large

explosion in the northern part of the gaza strip. the israelis continue to strike gaza ahead of an expected ground operation. right now there's a massive rocket barrage coming off the gaza strip. you can see one rocket after another appears to be toward the center of israel. now, neil, here along the border, there are a number of israeli troops and they're finally making it into some of the communities. some civilians came to us and i want to show you what they showed us. this is a little puppy that they found in one of the communities along the border and he's very, very sweet and shy, but he's very scared because there's a lot of noises here, but they found him in a small village near the gaza border and they said the family that had this puppy was killed during the attack on saturday morning and just this puppy survived. and he's just a survivor and

yet another indication people were just living their lives, with their families and their pets at the militants went into their homes and killed so many people. when it comes to animals here in southern israel, the israelis have set up a volunteer service for anyone who can help out with animals that they're finding in these communities. little puppies like this one who just need assistance once they're rescued from the areas, where soldiers are finally making it along the gaza border, neil. neil: i keep thinking what that little puppy witnessed, probably can't make out. such is war. trey, thank you for that. we needed to see that to remind us, bring us home to the craziness of all of this. and joining us the former israeli ambassador to the united nations. ambassador, it's great to have you and thank you for taking the time. where do you see this going? you're resolute, as you said, in the past, and as the prime minister pointed out, this is all about taking out hamas. how comfortable are you with that as a goal and how far does

that goal go? >> good morning, neil. so, you know, exactly a week ago, we witnessed the brutal attack and we're still counting the numbers beyond emergency nation and we haven't seen the brutality since the holocaust. we're getting ready to fight back and prepared for hunting down hamas. i think the goal of the operation should be simple, elimination of hamas. in the past, we entered gaza, but it was only partially and we never finished the job. and look what happened, and look how many civilians died a week ago. the negotiations should be clear like you fought isis, eliminated isis, we have to do the same with hamas and we will try to minimalize the casualties among the civilians in gaza, but we cannot go back to normal and leave hamas intact.

only a matter of time, they'll get more funding from iran and launch another attack on israel. the days of no response are over. and we have to build our deterrence the only way to do that is the complete elimination of hamas. how do you know from who is from hamas and who are just regular gaza palestinians? how do you sort that out? >> so, it's complicated. now we actually ask the residents of northern gaza to move out, to move out to go south and not to stay in that area so that we know that the hamas militants will stay in gaza. you know, gaza today you have underground city. hamas used international funding to dig tunnels, hundreds of tunnels and bunkers, so we will fight the militants if the civilians would stay around the hamas headquarters, they will be casualties, unfortunately. so we advise them to take the time now, not to wait, to move south and that will be our goal

to provide corridors for civilians to move out and then the hamas militants will stay there and we will crush them, we will fight them, we will bury them. neil: so hamas has had control of this area, really started in 2005, in earnest in 2007. i imagine there are quite a few who represent hamas and take it from what you're saying just to be clear, ambassador, anyone and everyone connected to hamas, they've got to go, right? >> absolutely. and you know, i don't know, neil, how much you were able to watch the footage from the massacre, but when you watch the footage you see it was not only hamas who broke into the communities, raped our daughters, kidnapped them, burned kids alive. it was civilians that came from gaza. that's horrible. so we will focus on the hamas terrorist organization and

everyone who will stay there to assist them, we will go after them as well. so, we provide those corridors so the civilians who are not involved can move out, but then we're going in with force, with determination, we are fighting for our lives. neil: so when this battle is on in gaza, it will be difficult to deal with those who are leaving with safety and those who are from hamas who are leaving to escape israeli soldiers and sort of blend in with that crowd. again, i know i sound repetitive, ambassador, i'm sorry, but how do you prevent that? >> so, i agree with you. i am sure you will see hamas already left gaza or hiding underground in south gaza. that's why i think it's important for us to complete the job. not to go to certain neighborhoods and allow terrorists and leaders to move

south and hide there. we have to go neighborhood by neighborhood, exactly like the powers of the west worked against isis in mosul, they went neighborhood by neighborhood to clean it up. if you don't do that, i agree with you, neil, you'll find that hamas moved to northern gaza, to southern gaza. we cannot do that. we have to go all the way and i encourage prime minister netanyahu to do that. you have the support of the people, you have the support of the u.s. and international community, we have to finish the job now. neil: understood. ambassador, thank you very much. the former ambassador, danny danon. with me is tim scott, south carolina senator and also a republican presidential candidate. senator, very good to have you. i don't know if you had a chance to listen to everything the former israeli ambassador just said, but he said that israel is going to hang tough. this attack is not going to be

tentative attack. it's going to be a sweeping one with the goal being-- aggressive. neil: destroy and annihilate hamas. do you agree with that? >> i do, indeed, neil. i sat down with ambassador herzog just this week, a few days ago, and his response was very clear that a proportional response is to wipe hamas off the map and i agree with him. the bottom line, when you see the inhumanity, you see the devastation, frankly, neil, the evil brought upon the jewish people and the state of israel, you can't not ever look at a baby again and not thank god that that child is healthy when you know in israel, babies were burned, they were beheaded it's devastating and to watch prime minister netanyahu's response by saying in response to those living in gaza, leave. we are coming in. it will be a complete siege. having the type of discipline that we've seen from the prime

minister to give people a chance to leave is an important indication of the integrity and the morality, but at the end of the day, hamas needs to cease to exist and i believe that we should have no daylight between the united states of america and israel and their objective to keep their people safe. neil: still, a lot of what you've been saying lately is a lot more sharp and in your face than we've heard from you during this long presidential campaign, senator. you had said just the other day that president biden has blood on his hands. you suggested that the president was even complicit as such in this hamas assault. what did you mean by that? >> well, neil, listen, one of the things i'll say as a guy that believes that commitment to israel is not just a right thing to do because they're our ally, the right thing to do because they are friends, but

the fact of the matter is that as a person who believes psalms, i believe it's our responsibility to have a sharp, strong response to evil when we see it, especially when it's brought upon our ally. i would simply say, that when you have the weakness of president biden, you invite attacks. when you negotiate a deal creating a market for hostages, $6 billion to iran, what did hamas say? they said, thank you to iran. that, in my opinion, is being complicit. we know, neil, that money is fungible. so when you know that you're funding terrorism by giving $6 billion to iran, it's just undeniable and it is frustrating to see this president raise the expense, raise the bounty on american heads abroad.

we saw that during the obama administration. i said then, the $400 million, $400 million would only increase the price per american and now we see $6 billion, the money will be used to kill israelis. neil: i understand, senator, you're a cautious and religious man. >> i am, yes. neil: i get from that, you were putting the blame for this and laying the siege for this on president biden i got that, but last time i checked hamas butchered those babies. hamas killed better than a thousand innocent israelis. >> absolutely. neil: do you think during the time that it's on tenterhooks, is that responsible language? >> it's clear language and forceful language because it's disgusting to see the evil brought upon the jewish people and hamas' objective is not

just to eliminate israel, it's to eliminate every jewish person on the planet and provide resources to iran, where you know they're the primary, the primary supporter of the hamas financially, that puts you in a position of being complicit. i don't know where there's any guessing on this one. this one seems to me to be a straight line. neil: well, we're commenting on what others have said. i want you to weigh in on what donald trump has said and since said he's the only person who could protect israel and the only person who will. but he said prior and in his comments are pretty well-known now that hezbollah is very smart. >> yes. neil: he had slammed benjamin netanyahu and dialed some of that back at least on his true social site. i want you to weigh in on the comments. neil, he have' said it all week when asked, without any question, the former president, president trump is dead wrong. we should have no daylight between america and israel.

no negative comments about prime minister netanyahu as he engages in a war to defend his entire nation and the jewish people, but it goes a step further. prime minister netanyahu is also fighting for western democracy, the thing that brings it all home is hamas' objective includes the elimination of the jews, six million live in america, but they hate western democracy for standing on principles, for standing on right, for being the fire, that's why they call israel the little satan and america the big satan. neil: got it. senator, thank you very much for taking the time. senator tim scott on all of that. we'll be talking to ron desantis about all of this later in the show and update you on protests that are beginning to build worldwide. we'll talk about that after this. # knows you want to make everyone feel at home. that's why with hisense appliances, you can get a lot more for less.

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>> all right. this one got a little weird. i don't know if you've followed the people like bill ackman, the billionaire calling out harvard students for blaming israel for these hamas attacks, calling on ceo's not to hire any one of them. my next ceo was among those who agreed. the ceo advocated that and curious enough his linkedin account was blocked and remains blocked. he joins us now. david, it seems more than coincidental. what do you make of that? >> thank you, neil, for having me today. i'd like to share some context. i think that would be helpful to frame the situation. my family fled their homeland of iran over 2000 years, the islamic revolution in 1979. the persian-jewish community had to flee overnight once unimaginable situation. as a result of my family's experience i don't take my freedoms and securities for granted.

i'm a student of history and anti-semitism and aware how ten uous our safety is. our campuses, supposedly bastions of free speech and i think you and i know well in the wake of george floyd, if white nationalists decided to hold a rally at ucla or harvard it would never be allowed. but these same are allowing, chanting rivers to the sea, palestine will be free and the same places that wanted safe spaces and i'm not surprised my account was taken down by a list of students advocating for the death and destruction of the jewish people. we're not talking about arguments over a two-state solution or political division of land. we're talking about hamas. we're talking about terrorism.

whose own charter calls for extermination of the jews. and i think that it's conscious or subconscious anti-semitism and make sure that these students pay a price and friends and neighbors and employers know that they harbor these beliefs. >> you're saying for what they did as college kids and you're right, strong reactions to it, unless they reverse those views or you would never hire any one of them? >> you know, i think nobody should be judged by the worst decision they made of their life. i've made a lot of stupid st decisions in their life. i think they have an opportunity to denounce support for hamas and terrorism. i'm a small impact, but ultimately about the broader community knowing who these people are and for all

employers, neighbors, and friends, to know that these folks harbor these types of beliefs. at the end of the 20th century, a number of people in belgium were jews. and then to zero. i've received multiple threats, bombarded with hate messages, but history has shown that the price of inaction could be greater. neil: all right. well, we have reached out to linkedin to find out what happened here and we have not heard back and we want to keep track of this and find out how that's going. david, thank you for taking the time. >> thank you so much, neil, i appreciate it. neil: all right, david duel. ron desantis has an order right now for rescuing floridians who might be trapped in israel. the governor and presidential candidate is next.

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>> all right. waiting for an invasion that could be a significant one right now, along the gaza area. we're told that israel is targeting now from multiple sites. don't know much more than that. we know that the prime minister benjamin netanyahu did have a chance to meet some of the troops. i don't know if they would be the ones who would be participating in such an attack, but he, again, urged them to fight the good fight and something that you've seen from president zelenskyy in ukraine, the leaders go right to the front line and talk to the troops and try to bolster up their mood and their passions and little need for that right now with israel with the rage that's still palpable, a week after the attacks by hamas. let's get the latest on this

right now with george burnbaum, the former chief of staff to netanyahu. good to have you. and obviously, troops benefit from that when they get to see the leader of the country urging them to fight the good fight and that this is a meaningful fight for the world. that was kind of the message that the prime minister sent. i don't want to misrepresent it. but these have got to be scary and hairy days for the prime minister, for all those in the israeli government. you don't know what comes next and you don't know about widening potential attacks from the north from hezbollah, from syria. it's literally played minute by minute, isn't it? >> it is. although, i don't think i have to tell you, neil, that the resolve of the jewish people is probably the strongest it's been in a long, long time. the heinous atrocities, literally crimes against humanity that we've seen.

pregnant women shot in the back of the head and wombs cut open, babies beheaded. i'm happy that the prime minister is talking to the army, but i don't think that any soldier in the army needs any more than the sights and videos and eyewitness accounts than we've seen. neil: you're a good student of history and you've seen prior attacks, all too many. and the global response is pretty much the same, a rally around israel, feeling horrible for the tragedy that beset that. it's short-lived doesn't last long, a week or so, and in the case of some countries in your region, it's waning as we speak. does that trouble you, that part of it? >> no, it's par for the course, neil. as you've said, we've seen this movie play over and over again. jewish blood is spilled,

innocent jewish blood, we retaliate, the world is behind us, after a few days, a week or two, they ask for restraint and a cease-fire and a peaceful resolution. you know, i've been saying that, you know, ever since the founding of the state of israel, peace is all the jewish people ever wanted and we've made peace with enemies, peace with people with blood on their hands. anwar sadat, and peace with other arab nations in the region and others as we move forward. the one group that has not been willing to make peace despite benjamin netanyahu, ahud barack anaks are the pal palestinians. we'll do what it takes to clear out hamas from gaza and we have to keep in mind that their leadership is sitting, hiding cowardly in qatar, in doha. we have to get to them, too.

in fact, i would urge the qataris to round them up to ship them to brussels and send them to the haig for war crimes. and we cannot allow the slaughter of jews, well over a thousand in any country let alone the country of israel and not see this to the end. neil: it's very profound and very brave and very israeli, uniquely israelis, not entirely uniquely israeli, but makes you stand out as a people. you mentioned other overtures at peace and bringing people together and i noticed even last week on this attack, it was on the very day the anniversary of anwar sadat's assassination, he made overtures and killed for it.

even the talk of approachment between your government and the saudi government is squelched by this attack or put off. is that what happens, every time we see the promise of an olive branch, it's snapped? >> let's understand now, your viewers need to understand this is not unique to making peace. you know, one of your friends, the former mayor of jerusalem bakat who appeared many times we witnessed if jeruselem, in the arab-israeli areas hamas put a camera outside of the election areas and put a fatwah. and said anybody who would would be killed. and those who want to participate in democracy or palestinians who want peace are the fodder for the terrorists and the barbarians.

there's no reason why the palestinians shouldn't be able to get out of gaza, and hamas won't let them. they need them as human shields and threatens their lives and arabs in israel, their lives are threatened for wanting to participate in israeli democracy. so it goes well beyond the leadership that's going to make peace, it goes to the very, very foundation of democracy and human rights and self-determination. >> that's well put, george. george birnbaum, thank you very much for taking the time. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right. when we come back, ron desantis, the presidential candidate, florida government, has more immediate interests getting any floridian out of israel out of israel right now. he's next.

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>> all right. israel is still preparing for that ground invasion right now, a deal to supposedly let gazans who want to get out to get out. at this point who wouldn't want to. and mike has more. >> unfortunately the deal to let the foreign nationals out of the gaza strip didn't seem to pan out throughout the day, creating another crisis with the civilians. and there are a lot of people crowded up at the crossing, hoping they'll open up. one of them i'm in contact with, emily, a u.s. citizen and her five children are u.s.

citizens and got the notice from the u.s. state department to wait at the crossing, all day long, hoping it would open up as promised to do. it never did. the sun is going down and emily and her family have gone for shelter and so many people are piled up there, hoping somehow to get out of the gaza strip. more indications that the ground invasion is coming, really, at anytime. prime minister benjamin netanyahu came here to the gaza border to give a pep talk to his troops, who are amassing and waiting for the order to get in. he asked them are you ready? he told them that the next stage is coming. we can't turn away from tensions at the northern border with lebanon. hezbollah has claimed responsibility for several of the cross-border attacks and there have been rocket strikes, there has been anti-tank fire coming across the border. israel has responded, but so far, that hasn't melted down to the point where that's a new front opening up in this war. neil. neil: all right. be safe, my friend.

mike tobin in the middle of all of that. meanwhile, governor ron desantis, campaigning for president, still recognizing the fact that there are a lot of floridians who want out of israel, easier said than done. he's trying to make that happen. he's joining us from creston, iowa. governor, good to have you. >> thanks for having me, neil. neil: tell us what this is about, and what you hope to do? >> there wasn't a lot of uncertainty about what the u.s. government was doing to get people out. recently the administration said maybe we'll move people to europe and let them fend for themselves. we have a strong relationship between florida and israel, many hundreds of people over there looking to come home so i wanted to fill the void to be able to offer flights from israel back to the state of florida. and so, we had to work with the israeli government to be able to get clearance to have the planes, but we're going to have the first planes are going to take off today in israel, arrive in florida on sunday,

and we anticipate there may even be an additional plane, but as you know, they're in sabbath right now so they're not doing communications electronically. once sundown happens, we think that there's going to be a couple hundred more people who are going to do. we're looking to service all of that, but we definitely anticipate bringing in the next few days, being able to repatriate hundreds of floridians back to the state. neil: i assume these are chartered planes, under you, the state? can you explain how that works, all commercial traffic is stopped. go ahead. >> yeah, so we-- we're an emergency response state. we have a lot of tools at our disposal, a lot of relationships so this is our department of emergency management leveraging those relationships in a variety of ways. we have contractors, we have relationships with airlines. so, all of that is in play. some of it is about what aircraft can access their airport in israel. some of it may be smaller aircrafts going nearby and then

taking a larger plane there. so, all of that's happening, but this is just, i think, part of the good thing about being a floridian is stuff that we're locked and loaded for. we never know what's going to happen, but we have a lot of resources at our disposal and a lot of know-how and we're putting it in practice at a time that's difficult for a lot of people in our state. neil: and i was wondering, the israel war changed a lot, not only the presidential race, but maybe washington and its response and more so, with this speaker battle still unresolved. i'm just wondering, since the house can't do much until that is resolved, what do you think they should do? >> well, one, they've got to get their act together. i saw jim jordan won the nomination and hopefully he'll be able to be speaker, i think he's a great guy, a great conservative, but the more it drags on it adds to the sense

that these guys just can't shoot straight. they're running around like chickens with their head caught off. all kinds of drama, but not results that are delivered. that's not how we do business in florida. our view is, we've got to get the people's business done. i don't have time for the other stuff. no political empty calories. they've got to start following that model because it's -- and this is an issue, of course. i think israel, they've got great defense. we have a longstanding security relationship with them, we'll continue that and be supportive going forward, but i think the larger issue is, there's a lot of problems in our country period and none of the problems are being addressed. you can't even do a speaker, that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence among the american people. neil: meanwhile, your opponent, donald trump, had said when it comes to this israeli conflict he is the only person who could protect israel and the only one who will. what do you think of that? >> well, that's not true.

i mean, i have a longstanding record of strong support for israel, florida and israel have had a tremendous relationship during the time i've been governor. when i was in congress, i was a leader and all of these issues about moving the embassy to jerusalem, we were putting the pressure on back in the day. we did things like urged the president to recognize sovereignty over the golan heights. we've actually fought against the funding that the u.n. has sent under this un r nunra to g because when you send money there it goes to the coffers of hamas. and iran sanctions, tighten up the sanctions, don't let them get oil revenue because they'll turn it around. iran is the mother's milk of terrorism throughout the middle east so we understand all that, but i think what this moment shows is, this is a time for strong and steady leadership. this is not a time to be

distracted. this is not a time to get awash in a soap opera or all the drama that we've seen so often in recent years. we need a president who is going to be there, who is going to be focused and disciplined on the people's issues and not be distracted by a lot of the other stuff and i've proven ability to do that and i will do that going forward. neil: i understand. when you say the soap opera drama, are you saying that's donald trump? he has praised hezbollah saying they're very smart. >> amongst others. neil: he slammed benjamin netanyahu. how do you feel about those comments? >> so with the bibi, attacking bibi is a huge mistake and he harbors resentment because he congratulated biden on the election. and he comes out after the

worst terror attack, and a leader should, even if you have personal grievances, rise above that and show solidarity and do what's best for the overall effort. so you're not going to see me taking pot shots at the leaders, especially leaders strong allies of the united states of america. i think that was an example of trump taking his issues and projecting that onto this current situation in a way that was a distraction and was not helpful at all. as a president, you've got to be willing to let a lot of that stuff go under the bridge. you can't respond to everything you perceive as a personal slight. you've got to rise above that, look higher and you've got to focus on what's best for the american people. neil: governor desantis, thank you very much. governor ron desantis of florida and again, this effort to get the floridians who want out of israel, out of israel. that's a real challenge for anyone that wants to get out of israel. we'll update you on that effort after this. aah, it's a good day to cough. oh, no!

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>> all right. at first blush it might seem odd talking about the border and the content of israel and what's happening there. there's a direct connection between of fear of elements that come into the country and we have no way of keeping track of them. those from more than 130 countries trying to get into this country and many from places like iran and lebanon and syria and on and on we go. griff jenkins is at eagle pass, texas with more on that. griff: hey, neil. good morning. don't take it from me or you. take it from dhs's threat assessment they put out last month where they specifically say that terrorists may seek to exploit our border situation here at the homeland and they specifically highlight iran, which is the world's leading terrorism sponsor country. now, since this past monday, there have been nearly 20

iranian migrants apprehended at the border. some 17 syrians, just in eagle pass where we are. on thursday we had two men in their 20's apprehended from lebanon, one from egypt. now, they will all go through extensive scrutiny and hopefully find out who they are, why they came here and crossed illegally, but ultimately we don't know we can get correct information because we don't deal with most of these countries and certainly don't share intelligence with countries leak iran or syria. that poses the dangers that you see. meanwhile, the numbers continue to come day in, day out. our numbers, we have hundreds in large groups every day, we've been bringing it to you month after month here, and yet, nothing is changing here as the border continues to be unsecured and what's most important about this, neil, the agents are so busy, 90% of the work force every day are processing these large groups so you have 60-plus miles here

in this sector, from brownsville to san diego you have literally hundreds upon hundreds of miles of unpatrolled wide open border for which someone would a terrorist intention could exploit that vulnerability. now, vivek ramaswamy came to eagle pass and he spoke some how if he were to become president he would certainly address the border quickly because he sees it as a national security risk and he sees that neither republicans or democrats are doing enough about it right now. that's the situation here and what also, just leave you with this, neil, in the past week, just since monday they tell me in this sector they've had over 10,000 migrant encounters we've within witnessing, 1,454 known got-aways, they saw them on cameras, couldn't bring them into custody and we don't know why they're here and what their

intentions are. neil, we'll send it back to you. neil: scary stuff, griff. grief jenkins at the border. in the meantime, this. israel has no choice, but to crush hamas. that's not benjamin netanyahu saying that, that is mike pence saying that. the former vice-president is next.

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>> the goal is to eradicate hamas. that was benjamin netanyahu making it very clear that they shouldn't only survive in some power form in the gaza, an area that they've dominated now since 2007, some date it back to 2005, but the formal transfer back then and that shouldn't be allowed, but taking it one step further, should they be eradicated period, crushed, killed, out of israel altogether?

vice-president mike pence feels that way. he says you have to crush hamas and you have to do it now. the former vice-president of the united states joins me. mr. vice-president, very good to have you. >> thank you, neil. neil: you're equally as bibi netanyahu on this subject, aren't you? >> i think it's important that every leader in america speak with one voice that in this moment, america stands with israel and we will stand with israel not only today, but tomorrow and every day until they achieve the objective of crushing hamas. look, you just referred to it, neil. i was in the congress back in 2005 when the decision was made in the bush administration to turn over gaza to hamas. that is now a nearly 25-year failed experiment. hamas has become a beachhead for terrorism, but the unprecedented attack that took place a week ago today, seeing terrorists in hamas breach the border, overtake community,

slaughter wmen, women, infant children is a moment israel has no choice, but to go in and to not stop fighting until they've eliminated hamas once and for all. neil: in the meantime, here, the question becomes how do you prevent hamas figures from sneaking out with palestinians in this evacuation, if it ever comes to that because hamas has told them essentially don't do that, but how do you guard against that? >> well, i think part of that is the reason why, you know, time is likely of the essence here. you know, i've seen reports on your air that there's hostage rescue efforts underway by israeli defense forces. you know, several days ago i called on president biden because we have americans held hostage. he ought to be directing joint special operations command to mobilize delta force or navy seals or both to make it clear to hamas that they either turn those americans and all of

those israeli hostages over or we're going to go in and get them, but i think at the end of the day, while i don't -- i don't expect israel to move one minute before they have chosen to move, i think ensuring that hamas does not escape their clutches here is vitally important. one of the ways to do that though is look, i have great compassion for innocent civilians in harm's way and it's another reason why i think, i think president biden ought to pick up the phone and call the president of egypt and say you're going to open your border. we've very closely with egypt, we're their principal military supplier. during our administration we partnered with egypt on counterterrorism efforts in the sinai and i understand the concern about the muslim brotherhood and i understand president el-sisi's concerns about terrorists coming across the border. how about we start with women and children. open up the border with egypt

to women and children and the u.s. can tell we'll partner with you for a refugee center. but to have egypt closing their border and not making it possible for people to escape what is absolutely imperative for israel to do and that is to go in, to hunt down, to destroy hamas, detroy their infrastructure and i push hard on the move. neil: donald trump said nothing like this occurred under him, it wouldn't have occurred if he were still there, paraphrasing, mr. vice-president, and he says he's the only person who can protect israel and only will who will, obviously he's including you in the mix of people who can't and won't, what do you think? >> well, i think people that know my career, my career in congress, as a governor, as vice-president. i've stood strong with israel and if i'm president of the united states i'll do that as

well, but let me agree with my former running mate on one issue, i think that disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan under president joe biden has emboldened around the world. intelligence came out that hamas started planning this invasion two years ago. what happened two years ago? the united states in that cut and run departure, the loss of 13 american service members, taliban overruns and takes over afghanistan. neil: you might be right about that. >> almost without firing a shot. neil: mr. vice-president, donald trump went so far as to say that benjamin netanyahu-- this was a screwup of israeli intelligence, that hezbollah is very smart. i've raised it with all of our opponents. i'm raising it with you, what do you think of what he said quickly? >> i thought the president's words, criticizing the prime minister of israel and referring to hezbollah as very smart were reckless and they

show a lack of understanding about the seriousness of this moment. look, this is a moment where the united states of america should be speaking and acting with one voice and that is a voice of resolve and determination to stand by israel and give them the support that they need to do what needs to be done in this moment and as i've said, hezbollah is not very smart. hezbollah is evil. and to send a message to hezbollah and lebanon to terrorists ensconced in the assad regime in syria and of course, a deafening message to iran that the united states of america is prepared to do what is necessary to hold them accountable because they're holding the leash on hamas and on hezbollah and it's one of the reasons i've said that the administration ought to be sending the u.s.s. eisenhower there and make it clear to all especially iran. neil: appreciate that. >> tensions across the globe escalating as israel's ful