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♪ ♪ will: scenes as fighting in israel reaches its 8th day as tens of thousands prepare for a full scale invasion of gaza we're learning that secretary of state antony blinken will return to israel for further talks following a visit to other leaders in the middle east. rachel: idf issuing statement saying forces are preparing to implement a wide range of operational offensive plans. which can include combined and coordinated strikes from the air, land and sea. pete: at least 1300 israelis and 29 u.s. citizens have been killed in the fighting so far. will: "new york times" reports delayed initial plans as weather

conditions in the area can worsen. rachel: a second u.s. carrier on the way to the mediterranean cannel and what lloyd austin calls a show of force as the u.s. continues to affirm its support for israel. pete: despite that iran is now warning israel to stop fighting immediately saying any further action they take will cause a huge earthquake for israel if the operation in gaza continue. and now let's get to mike tobin on the ground in southern israel with the latest. mike. >> well with troops at the ready good morning gang with troops at the ready and so much anticipation that the ground ofntionive would have started by now, you can see the artillery sits behind me at the moment the guns are quiet and the ground offensive did not materialize you've seen reporting from the "new york times" saying that weather was the reason that the troops didn't go in drones and aircraft couldn't spot detail on the ground what i'm getting from a source is weather one of the

factors they want to optimize the all of the factors before they move in. and minimize the risk to the soldiers who are accompanying all of the armor that's going to be part of this anticipated ground offensive they got a high value target a individual kendra he is part of that nook bomb a naval commander force that was central had the planning of this october th massacre specifically they say this kendra was responsible for planning the attack and they got by air strikes over the last three days. other operatives with hamas and islamic jihad have been killed with 100 air strikes conducted overnight. the northern border is still extremely tense, rockets came across the border overnight. there was a strike in a town

called stula in that town an israeli arab meaning airman with israeli citizenship was killed. he was working on the farms up there. he was killed two others were injured. a dozen of rockets continue to fly over that border israel has responded thus far that hasn't melted down into another front. but we sit here watching the gaza border in the south of the country. as soldiers are waiting to get their orders you saw they got the visit from prime minister benjamin netanyahu yesterday telling them that the next stage is coming so far the order has not come. guys back to you in new york. >> a multitude of factors weather being one of them but it is also got to be evacuation of folks in northern gaza which we've seen disrupted by hamas at many levels. and also the coordination it takes to bring in that many troops to do it effectively and move indesice evely comment on any of that and heard reports that rules of engagement for

israeli soldiers loosened a little bit in the expectation when they go into north gaza they're going against anyone there is someone that can be considered an enemy. can you report on any of that? >> well, one of the things that we've seen with israel in the past when they go into the gaza strip they'll lay down a bunch of scorched earth with the idea that anyone who is not a combat tangt would leave and that i shalled this warning telling anyone who is not a combat to leave and in the northern ends meaning hamas or islamic jihad fighting personnel because rockets continue to come out. we know there's a network of tunnels we know that they anticipate that as israeli frontline advances, there's a potential that fighters could pop up behind them and attack from the rear because of the tunnels they have a great deal of intelligence about the tunnels but you have to doubt they've exhausted all of the intelligence about the tunnels. but we've seen in the past inwith fighting in the west bank, as these radical islamic

fighters retreat, they leave behind booby-traps so front with peril as they go in and trying to do everything they can to minimize risk to their own troops. pete: no doubt. will: mike tobin thanks so much. pete: thank you. will: check many with you later in the show. wemght to bring up talking about -- gaza, i don't think this is a type of analysis that should lead to paralysis but it's always important to understand and ask yourself what comes next. and we probably did not officially have an answer before we went into afghanistan. rachel: or ukraine. will: you brought it up earlier pete what happens in gaza has to be part of the conversation today at least for -- the government of israel. meaning occupy, true occupation, not what is called now an occupation. turn it back over, turn it over to who. because hamas is the ruling essentially government of gaza

in the upon the is to cut out hamas like a cancer. then what comes next? all of these questions are very monumental about what happens -- i mean the task of an invasion and hostage rescue all of that is monumental and it probably pails in comparison of the task that follows. pete: that does impact how you move through in the first place as well. but i've read multiple reports and heard from people who say it is all happening so fast. that there hasn't been a full reckoning with what the next phase looks like i think part of it might be what kind of resistance they face and what kind of combat they encounter. how the hostage situation unfolds. so i don't know that they know what that in state is right now. you don't always have the convenience of knowing what that looks like. rooting out hamas, i mean, you're right elected well now -- the permanent government there but also a terrorist organization that killed 1300 of your citizens innocence.

i don't know that they've thought it all through. >> right or had the opportunity or role of iran in this now saying you do -- if you go into gaza with frond forces we're going to get involved and cause an earthquake for israel. then the question then becomes how does that impact america? do we end up getting involved and drawn into this afterall we have -- some hostages that are americans and also those killed. so it is very complicated, and thinking ahead i'm so glad you brought up that. what comes next? because it could be -- world war iii so it is something we need to really -- do cautiously let's bring in fox news sunday anchor and our fox news chief legal correspondent shannon bream. shannon, what are you hearing -- specifically with the hostages? any new news, and anything else that you think you might want to highlight in this very terrible situation? >> i mean, i literally spend

every morning praying for leaders involved from israel across that region our own president and lawmakers here because -- as you guys have outlined there are no good simple easy decisions in this conflict. all of them involve suffering and death and loss. but when we talk about american hostages one of our guests this morning senator tom cotton called he's a veteran himself for special ons forces to go in and get our people if we have any clue where they are. if they're being held we have missing americans. and we assume that some of them may be hostages but he says it is duty of the american government to protect american citizens. he thinks they should go in. so far what we've heard from the administration is there won't be u.s. boots on the ground for that prp so on the other side of this conversation i'll have john kirby to ask him what is the u.s. obligation at what point does the defense department does the white house decide that that might be a viable path forward to get those special operators on the ground for, you know, purposes -- but to direct them and to

potentially going to gaza to get americans? will: shannon you're talking about what type of not just administration but i would have to think bipartisan will there is at some point for whatever it is might be the role of united states. on that same note republican candidates for president but not only that republican office holders are talking a lot i think appropriately about our southern border and what this highlights about danger for us at the southern border, in fact, let's listen to republicans and we'll talk on the other side. >> seeing what's happening on both borders of this country reflecting on where we are as a country. i think what the next one of the thing next president of the united states needs to understand -- is that we are in the middle of a war. here in the united states of america. >> there will be a terrorist attack in this country that will be able to link to that southern border that's just the reality.

>> i don't know what biden is going to do but we cannot accept people from gaza into this country as refugees i'm not going to do that. will: my question is twofold where is the biden administration on what ron desantis said about accepting refugees from gaza and any bipartisan refocus on the border? i guess my question in turn is have democrats changed tune or thought process on the danger represented by open border? >> i mean they have to acknowledge it. i mean we know just based on stats the incredible numbers that have been coming through but that also includes a record number of people who are attached to some sort of terrorist list. it could be them it could be a family member. associate, we're at record levels of those people showing up at our border and those are ones we know about. we don't know the got aways other people who may have been sneaking through and here's what dhs is worried about that folks at the southern border are worried about the fact that so many resources are sent there. we are now having people

sneaking across the northern border through canada as well. and you know, they say they're stretched thin there's only so much they can do with so much focus on the south now bad actors or people who want to come through the north as well and to this issue of taking a refugees this administration has said yes we're going to have higher numbers of refugees cool in not specific to this war but you do have already people talking about this. you've got republican house members, a couple of them have gotten together, to put together a measure saying we're not going to accept people here. they feel like the afghan refugees they were not vetted and don't have a handle on that situation so they don't want to open doors here to knowing there are people who desperately need help also asking questions as governor desantis has. why aren't other arab states in that region willing to take on so many these people rather than shipping them to the u.s. there will be resistance for that here. >> that's the question if there's so much concern about the polite the palestinians why

are none of their neighbors willing to do what the u.s. ends up doing and shouldn't in this case. i know you're going to cover all angles who do out of on today? >> talking about policy issues and talk about that $ billion is it completely frozen? i mean senator cotton is one of the lawmakers leading measure that would actually permanently take care of that money. what does that mean? we'll also have colonel lerner from idf to talk about exactly what's happening there on the ground as you've been doing as well and interestingly former senator but now university of florida president ben sasse put out a statement about this stuff. what's happening on college campuses, it is making a lot of headlines we'll talk to him about why so many college presidents and people are struggling to find the right moral clarity on this issue. will: all right shannon thanks so much. rachel: looking forward to that if you know guys it's been interesting we were all of this news is unfolding we're telling everyone what's happening on the

couch and breaks we're talking. i think the way a lot of people are talking at home -- and i know sometimes i seem naive because i'm talking about peace but we have to remember it wasn't very long ago peace was breaking out in the middle east it was possible. back, you know, just a couple of years ago -- i can think the question is can we put that genie back in the bottle or has the -- incidents, the atrocities that have happened this weengsd is it too late or even -- the political imaginations biden administration regard to their attachment i think obsessive attachment to this iran deal from barack obama. has that poisoned the situation in the middle east among other players so much that we can't get this back? i just -- i'm really heartbroken about the whole thing because it seemed like for once, we were finding some sort of peace and hope there. will: i think history suggest these moments spiral quickly. i think you look at the onset of

world war i, some extent world war ii a little bit more long in the making and the vision of what hitler hoped to accomplish across europe but a confluence of events that quickly spiraled out of control. and we're in that moment -- essentially of whether or not cooler heads can prevail or wise leadership can see through to avoid what you're describing. which is a catastrophic scenario but that has happened united states and soviet union sat on the brink throughout their relationship, and managed to avoid going down this, this apocalyptic vision of the future. rachel: and ronald reagan, joe biden -- >> donald trump, joe biden, product that have moment of peace you're talking about is the result of mother of all bombs being dropped on, you know, terrorist and afghanistan. it is a product of soleimani killed on the baghdad airstrip and isis eradicated when previous administration said that would take us years or months to do you unleash war fighters to kill them.

regimes that hate you see those things, and say now is not the time that peace is a product of unpredictability, and sheer lith allty you only bring peace it is a slogan but a reality on the ground especially with islamists when you come in, hat and hand wants to make deals with those people and then you see what happened in afghanistan. and then you see what happened in ukraine. all it does is sending the signals that now is the moment to move. now is the moment to take our chance and when did the planning for this attack in south israel start not under trump administration and that's not to make a partisan point but a real point about timelines. they look around at the world and said now is our time. to exploit this opportunity -- and they did just that. rachel: china is looking at this situation too hoping we get embroiled in saying now is our time to very complicated situation. pete: you're right. will: join fox corporation in

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fox news alert 15 americans still unaccounted for as israel prepares for a massive strike on the gaza strip at least some feared to be held hostage by hamas terrorists. the mother of missing 23-year-old american is speaking out after meet with secretary of state antony blinken in israel her son, hirsch goldberg pollen is assumed to have been kidnapped by hamas after attending music festival on saturday sen hirsch's mother on the way to tel-aviv about her son thank you for joining us this morning. our sympathies and our prayers are with you and hirsch and your entire family. i understand you're in the

vehicle on your way to a meeting, what are your hoping and expecting to learn this morning about your son? >> well i really think that i'm going to share with the senators who have so jeans arely jeans generously hearing by those held hostage by hamas and we're extremely grateful that they're taking the tile not just to talk to us. you know, over the phone which many, many people have been doing from the administration, and congressman from every different stripe but that these wonderful senators have taken the time to come here and talk to us in person. we're going to be seeing senator schumer, romney, kelly, cassidy, and rosen. will: let's hope something can come from that information for your family in, obviously, best

case scenario outcome that everyone hopes for. i love to ask you what you know and what you don't know i know there are reportses of what happened with hirsch at the music festival we've heard camping with his friends and you have some details of what went down that day, is that correct? >> i do. yes. so hirsch and his best friend were at the music festival. and sometime the timing a little bit fuzzy i was actually in my bomb shelter in jerusalem around 8:00 in the morning on saturday morning. the bomb sirens went off and so, my daughters and i got into our bomb shelter my husband was already at synagogue. and when i got out of the bomb shelter i turned on my phone because it was an emergency usually i don't use any phone on the jewish sabbath and two what's apps texts that came in at 8:11 the first one said i love you.

and the second one said, i'm sorry. and i immediately knew something horrible was about to happen or happening to him. i, of course, tried to call him and text him and i didn't get an answer. what we subsequently have found out from witnesses he and his friend ended up in a road side bomb shelter public bomb shelter. and hamas terrorists came to the doorway and started throwing in hand grenades and spraying them with machine gun fire these are, you know, 30 -- hippy barefoot music loving kids who are shoved in no weapons, nothing. the terrorists ended up killing many of them extremely seriously sounding many of them. there were a few that were underneath the bodies that were alive and pretending to be dead and from those witnesses we

heard three young men who were not dead were told to stand up. hirsch was one of them. they saw all threen withs saw that his left arm blown off below the elbow and fashioned some sort of of tourniquet they said he wasn't screaming he wasn't crying. he wasn't making noise i think he was in shock. and in another boy another young man also had been shot in the leg. the three young men were taken out to a pickup truck. they were put on the pickup truck which headed toward gaza. we found out from the israeli police that the last known cell signal from his cell phone was at the border with gaza which was six kilometers away from where this -- bomb shelter had been and that was the last we heard anything. >> those, that story those details are just -- they're horrific to hear i can't imagine how they are to

experience, and even how difficult they are for you to share with us this morning but thank you for doing so. now, the question of what you don't know. what -- what do you hope for at this point with hirsch i know you haven't heard since that cell phone ping. i know that the american government you're going speak to senators today has done a lot of work in trying to identify the well being or those they can confirm have not made it. what at this point with the information that you have -- what is your expectation or level of hope? >> well, first and foremost, i know that if hersh is alive he needs medical attention immediately he has a serious grave critical wound and needs that needs attended to and needs antibiotics, et cetera. and i, you know, i feel that he

and all of these hostages need to be released as soon as humanly possible because, you know, these aren't -- it's such a cross section of people. you have grandmothers, you have children in there. and then you know, you have these just all different types people. you have people like hersh someone who went to have a good time with his best friends at a music festival these are civilians held hostages a lot of them. and by the way, i might mention that we just went to his best friend's funeral on friday. they did identify his body. her slps sh is considered kidnapped the israeli authorities have notified us of that. there have been a lot of remains that have been identified in israel. his remains have not been identified.

and because of the eyewitnesses seeing him loaded into the pickup truck and the cell phone being found on the border with gaza, the assumption is that he's there. i don't know his status. that was eight days ago. i mean, i have my -- we have our prayers and our hopes and -- we have no information. we have no confirmation. will: you know rachel i know hope is a endless resource and deep well but where is your greatest hope is it you're meeting with senators today is it with diplomacy and powers to be behind scenes to release with the idf and american hostage rescue where do you place your greatest hope? inch well, it's a good question -- i'm very much aware of who i am. i'm a mother. i am a teacher. i am not a military strategist. i'm not a diplomat or a

politician that's not where i shine that's not my background. so i go to sleep at night as a mother. and i hope that i sleep which is -- not usually. and i hope that there's another mother and another good people somewhere near where he is who will be brave and do the right thing. i don't think every single person in gaza is hamas. and i know that you can't hide, you know, there are -- 14 american hostages but there are almost 200 total hostages. you can't hide 200 people. without other people knowing about it. and so one of my greatest hopes is that someone will do the right thing even though it is scary. even though it requires courage, and bravery that, that when tested we don't all know what we would do we say what we think we

would do but we don't know. and that's what my hope is. and i'm really hoping, i have to say the american government, the administration every single person that embassy, u.s. embassy has been wonderful. they have been so supportive, and so transparent and trying so desperately to help us and i also spoke personally to president biden on friday. and spoke personally to antony blinken, and i really feel that america from both sides, whether republican, democrat it doesn't matter. we're americans. and we're together in this. and i really feel the support. will: yeah. we know rachel when you talk about your hope i hear you are hoping for humanity on the other side of that gaza border, of course, our hope in -- great or powers of power of prayer and god and you have ours

a well. thank you so much, rachel. >> thank you. will: more coverage of the war in israel, next. ♪ ♪

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pete: we're back with a fox news alert israeli forces reportedly delaying a massive ground invasion due to weather. but our next guest who served in the idf says weather may not have anything to do with it but rather on new information about hostages. will: aaron cohen is here great to see you again this morning you gave us a vivid explanation of the military strategy analysis behind the the scenes of what we're looking to happen next in israel. now, tell what you say we're seeing on real time. you believe the delay is perhaps due to new information about

hostages. >> i believe the delay is directly connected to the hostage rescue portfolio on the macro level what i mean is hostage rescue which israel didn't event the brits did but we certainly perfected it you know again going back to june 3rd, '76, who hostages by black september and we took down a bus first ever bus that was taken down in southern israel. we took down the first aircraft so israel is no junior varsity when it come to this they're masters at the craft what they're doing right now is taking 40 years of experience and buying as much time as they can to be able to collect actionable intelligence. the reason why that is critical when it comes to hostages is because you have grandmothers, grandfathers, babies whose parpghts were murdered in front of them being held up in the air by hamas. and you've got -- civilians that are essentially placed throughout gaza and

multiple locations and so the general staff reconnaissance unit bibi's old unit his late brother was killed on that he's a national treasurer and hero and they have experience in dealing with hostage rescues there has to be a high degree of selectivity and entries have to be extremely aggressive when you're puncturing into those structures so we need to know where hostages are we need to know what rooms they're in and where they're standing in those rooms and we need to know if they're, obviously, been moved there's a good chance this general staff reconnaissance unit as well as israel national police and amum [inaudible conversations] one of the top three yiengts of the world seal team 6 brits they come to learn from us. these structures are beginning to be booby-traps it is going to be very messy. so we want to make sure that we've got all of the

intelligence that we need to be able to execute lightning swift and precision action against these trusts with the highest degree of selectivity it is our first priority when it comes to operations we preserve life. unlike hamas yopght need to sell what hamas did everybody knows what's going toen here so we need to buy as much time as we can. rachel: let's talk about life because reassuring to hear expertise of those who rescue on the israeli side, however, i'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the mother we just saw in the last interview which was heartbreaking. and to me, a hostage rescue sounds superrisky and i would probably prefer that there be negotiations for release. >> i hear what you're saying but i have to tell you, i'm going to put on my israeli hat time for negotiating is over we're right now and what we're seeing right now is the preeminent stages of global jihad that's my

professional opinion we've got insightment that's been happening globally. we've got sympathist who if they were armed in every major city across europe would likely be using arms the way hamas did. hamas unfortunately what's masterfully branded hamas name into the palestinian people which is unfortunate. the palestinians are good people. and i want to speak to that, israel dupght have any issues with the palestinians regarding this hostage siege the time for talk is over we used talking as a method or means to be able to buy time for planning. so that in the event that those innocents start getting fired upon those rescue teams let me make this clear they train full-time this is all they do what they do and delta force does these are -- these are nfl quality athletes who shoot thousands and thousands of rounds a week this is their job. and they are -- the finest in the world, and

right now there's american assets, working with israeli assets there might be actual americans who are being held in there as well as well as other foreign nationals we share information. so with all due respect i can feel her polite her feelings and emotions are exactly the reason why these units were created in the late 60s and early 70s. but to the palestinians, and to the situation right now in gaza. what you're seeing right now is one million palestinians who are being blocked from being able to move to the southern region of israel. they are completely being held by hamas. the israeli defense forces just released audio footage between a local gaza resident who was informant for israeli intelligence agency provides real time accurate intelligence that helps us prevent terror attacks. they were on the phone this audio has now been released by

the israel defense forces. and in that conversation, that informant made it very clear that hamas was trapping the palestinians in and around gaza city region. what that means is that what we're seeing right now is the largest hostage siege in the history of modern warfare. one million palestinians, 400, up to 400 israelis being held for the purpose of being killed as needed. this is history you're watching being made right now. so what we need -- >> no doubt. >> what israel does best they come together. they're creative. they've got the intestinal fortitude they've got the experience. and right now thousands of phone calls are being listened to. and you're about to see israel what it does best.

rescue good people. so stand by. >> no doubt aaron. we're out of time but would there be -- they're not going to be able to get every hostage at one time right, i mean, it would be a critical mass of the number of people they identify their locations, and you anticipate it's -- 25 different locations or 3 holding areas? i mean -- just real quick? >> good question it's good questions it is tough to without breaching safeguards -- i will say this. it is a good chance there's likely multiple could be dozen could be three dozen i can't tell you the answer but what i can tell you how we're thinking when it comes to those numbers once they have that information israel has capabilities and the reason to be able to hit multiple targets at the same time without having to -- with the excuse me with the ability to be able to do that indefinitely due to the very high level of training, the way they clear rooms, the limited penetration room clearing technique which i won't get too

into on national television but a methodology of clearing rooms which is brilliant trained law enforcement in for 20 year very specific for terrorists. i will say this they've got the capabilities to hit multiple structures at the same time and be able to change direction mid-mission as needed. we've got this that's forming right now, and that may be a potential smoke screen which will allow chaos and shock and autoprovide additional cover for those rescues. they can move in real time as new information comes in. and the reason why is because that high level of training. we invest in the individual and when those individuals are at high level and smartest people, like i was saying israel is really, really good at this. they're really smart. they're very, the word of the day right now guys is focus. and that's what israel is doing. >> one quick -- >> trying to get the situation the question now is -- why is ishmael the head of hamas meeting with the --

with the ambassador of the islamic republic of iran in qatar last night and when it president biden going to pick him up and sending one of their assets in qatar one of the elite units to bring him back to the united states to stand trial as the single most relevant terrorist leader since osama bin laden that's the next question i would be asking. >> to that point, though, aaron, this operation in in gaza laid about benjamin netanyahu has been to destroy hamas. how do you reconcile that with the fact that hamas is leadership is not in gaza that means this goes well beyond gaza. >> we've got -- we've got a terrorism situation here on global proportions. it's been relevant for this terrorism is a -- has been a player in the warfare game since the 60s. we saw with the massacre but

we've got a macro problem here. we've got the budding of a preeminent jihad forming right now globally seen the riots happening all over the but the protest that's been happening we saw teacher get stabbed other day in a european country. we've got protesters who are completely unsympathetic to women being raped and killed in streets. murdered inside their home there's an ideology here that is being exploited i think we're going to be looking at the bigger picture. >> aaron cohen thank you for your insight this morning. >> thanks, aaron. all right trey yingst is on the ground in southern israel with more on what we were just discussing with aaron as well. hey, trey. reporter: hey guys yeah we're learning right now that a fifth antitank guided missile fired from southern leb knob into northern israel today. a significant development in yet another sign that hezbollah lebanese militant group backed

by iran looking to get involved in this fight as rockets continue to stream through the air. fire from the northern and central part of the gaza strip as we've talked about civilians inside gaza told they need to head south immediately, ahead of an impending israeli ground operation. we don't know why it was delayed overnight there were some reports indicating that it had to do with the weather and americans may have received about the situation on the ground. but what we do know is there are american military assets headed this direction. there's now a way for americans to get out of israel as a whole. head to the northern port of hie fi getting on a boat to cyprus and reports every hour from mgo other companies that are trying to get out of israel any way possible. i just saw a contact i have from the united nations making his way to jordan. so there's information that israeli government has about what comes next. we don't all know what it is. a lot of that is classified information.

but we should look at the movement in the region and what this may indicate as the pressure is mounting from the northern border the rocket fire continues from gaza and just this afternoon iranian foreign minister telling a qatari media that israel will face an iranian response iran will get involved in the fight. if they do not end the what he calls a siege on gaza. guys baa fox you. >> thank you, trey. thank you. >> can i say really quick aaron with aaron cohen's interview if i was a mother -- with a child who was taken hostage, his words that the time for negotiation is over. it would bring me no comfort at this moment as much as he -- laid out how the expertise of the israeli, you know, military is and getting hostages. this just sounds like not good news for hostages. >> certainly there's a lot of that sentiment inside israel right now. when you've had 1300 of your

people savagely killed -- that's one way of looking at it. but if you have -- >> yeah but there's probably a lot of parents to say you better get those guys and those guys too. >> i interviewed some americans yesterday who said i want my family member back. i'm just not sure what's going happen here. it is very sad. >> always the dynamic interpersonal, personal aspect of it and relate of enemies. will: coming up fight back against hamas, the u.s. sengsdz another aircraft carrier to the eastern mediterranean. rachel: retired army general dana pichard weighs in straight ahead.

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>> right now israeli forces on major brink in gaza as u.s. increases its show of force. the pentagon sending second aircraft carrier to mediterranean sea towards israel. our next guest knows all about america's war on terror major general dana pittard helped u.s. fight the war on isis and he joins us no. i want to get to that isis

aspect and the comparisons at a moment but first tiewk me about this strategic significance of these aircraft carriers in the region. will they have a deterrence effect or are they will just incase something more breaks out? >> well good morning, pete. >> good morning having a second strike terror group in eastern mediterranean is very rare. but it really gives the u.s. options. options from everything from the potential evacuation of americans, american citizens if necessary, and also the deterrent value to potential adversaries like iran, like syria like hezbollah, russia and china in the area. it also is in support potential support of israel if necessary. pete: what kind of deterrence are we talking about? what are the capabilities for our audience of an aircraft strike group? >> all sorts of capabilities from the destroyers battleships which can provide fire from

ships to the land to the coast. for bombardments to the aircraft squadrons that are part of the carrier strike group to the intelligence value. all sorts of things even having u.s. baton nearby with amphibious landing capability with marines. so there's a lot of capability with the second u.s. strike group. pete: general, you were a part of the dismantling of the isis some said could take years and it ended up being mission that once you untied hands of our war fighters they were capable of doing. what did those lessons tell you about what might be about to unfold in gaza? >> well i was and proud to be a part of that fight against isis and eventually feat of isis what it tells us about what's going in hamas it is going to be a tough fight. hamas is really a wannabe isis it was better organized isis did not try to behead kids,

children, but hamas is an evil terrorist group that must be eradicated. but that fight will be tough. i've been to gaza before, pete. and it's densely populated in the city. the fighting will be blocked by block street by street, building by building. there will be booby-traps everywhere hamas had time to prepare and there will be sub terrain i can fight and even above with buildings and stuff like that it will be tough going and casualties on both sides but israel will prevail will defeat hamas and eradicate that terrorist group. pete: how do hostages complicate general in your mind if you're conducting total war on hamas? at the same time -- >> well extremely complex. you know, israel is put out a warning asking for civilians to move out of northern gaza.

some have complied but many have not because hamas leadership wants to keep them there as human shields. so that will make it very complex. there will be civilian casualties unfortunately. the civilians will be caught in the cross fire between the israeli forces coming in and hamas trying to use them as human shields. pete: general pittard thank you for your insights and for your service to our country. we appreciate it. >> no thank you pete, thank you for your service. pete: thank you, sir. coming up the idf shares new video appearing to show hamas blocking more than one million gaza civilians from evacuate the great one mark levin join us as israel prepares its offensive. look who saved slider sunday again! here we go... (♪) a perfect king's hawaiian slider.

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