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>> i'm judge jeanine pirro in for laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from new york city. tonight a mother and her daughter have been released by hamas what the terrorist group was calling "humanitarian, they are now with idf security forces and on their way to be reunited with her family. but as they are released, their americans are still missing. >> they were still ten addiamericanson account of four. we know that some of them are being held hostage by hamas. >> the biden administration is set on sending humanitarian aid to gaza where some missing americans may be held by hamas. later tonight, we will talk to one member of israeli defense force on the front lines against the terrorist group and what he says happens to the aid sent to gaza will shock you. also tonight the drone attacks
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intercepted by u.s. destroyer off of the coast of yemen yesterday much heavier than previously known. uss carney shot down 15 drones and four cruise missiles during a nine hour time span here the u.s. official telling fox news the rockets and drones were clearly headed to israel, which is where we begin tonight's coverage. joining us live from jerusalem john roberts chemicals host of "america reports." good morning, john. >> the release of the hostages is good news, but the fact that there is ten americans being held along with 200 is a release. antony blinken the secretary of state calling on hamas to release the hostages immediately without condition pure the way the hostages, judith and natalie were released today is suggestive of hamas using the hostages as bargaining chips to
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try to delete a ground up alliteration. it seems like the ground operation was ready to go as soon as tomorrow. but now a push to stop the bombing all negotiations are underway for the hostages to be released. but it doesn't look like that will be the case. but there is growing pressure on the israeli government for a pause to see if more hostages can be released from gaza. the defense minister laid out the plan of attack for win the grand operation does get underway. the first part of the plan, a three-part plan is to destroy hamas through error power, which they've been engaging with the last 13 days with ground operation in the second phase wd operation with pockets of resistance mopping up operation and the third part would be to create completely new security regime for which israel d not have responsibility. it is likely there will probably have to be a temporary
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occupation by israel of gaza if manages to decapitate hamas. but israel does not intend to stay long. it wants to get palestinian authority up and running and not necessarily the palestinian authority. about some sort of palestinian governing council so that israel doesn't have to do it. one other point driven home, judge, which i think is interesting to me. people wonder why is israel so determined to go in there and decapitate hamas? michael warren, the foreign investor to the united states put it this way earlier today when he was here on one of the earlier programs. he said that proportionally speaking, if you were to compare israel's 9/11 as they call it with our 9/11 because of the differences in population, 1,400 israelis were killed on october 7th. that would be like 50,000 americans being killed on 9/11.
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that is why israel so determined to make sure, judge, this never happens again. >> judge jeanine: john, it is interesting that there are already tens of thousands of idf soldiers and columns of israeli tanks along the border, massed along the israel/gaza border ready to go, but it seems like everyone is telling the idf and israeli, "slow down, slow down." it appears that it's almost an international effort to get them to not respond. >> certainly there is growing pressure on israel to not respond on the ground because respondent on the ground, obviously, would repudiate more casualties in gaza, the idf will take casualties and hezbollah could get involved with raining rockets down on israel. that is not a scenario anyone wants to see. but again, israel feel some point it's got to go on the ground.
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but i talked with the former chief of national security council in israel, the general a couple of days ago. and he didn't seem to think there was any rush to go on the ground. they israeli error power is very effective at degrading hamas putting pressure on hamas. and it could be that they felt ground and impatient eminent. there are some people in israel that think they can wait a few days or weeks if they need to before they go in here the problem is though with the hostages and what happens to them. if could be more help to get them out, that would be great. but if not, israel has to form a rescue plan. >> judge jeanine: john, stay safe. thank you so much. joining me now idf brigadier general who is the founder and chairman of the israeli defense security forum. you know, general, was this hostage released today a deployed by hamas to delay
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ground invasion? >> it has nothing to do with a ground invasion. israel has its own timetable. and we have to understand which goals the government set to complete destruction of hamas and palestinians. and that terror infrastructure with massive ground incursion, which by the way, a maneuver but thin it's a long, long process and operations are ongoing. and it is they are timetable. by the way, they suggest it is connected to the ground maneuver to reach and release them. >> judge jeanine: but general, the urban warfare that will occur or must occur in order to
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eliminate hamas is going to take a long time. what happens to the hostages during that time? >> well, we have to see the time, but we have to really maneuver to go places while destroying hamas capabilities. we are seeing the separation in gaza. you cannot destroy hamas from the air. in a way that everything is underground. you see after so many days of air attacks, they are still able to shoot rockets. they are still commanding with an ability to operate. so really, it is more than a ground operation that will make a difference. they would destroy capabilities and also release hostages. >> judge jeanine: all right,
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brigadier general amir avivi, thank you for joining us this evening. we wish you to safety and we wish you luck. thank you. all right, what my the idea expect with eminent fighting begins? mike tobin went to find out, mike. >> judge, we are shy of two weeks since the massacre of october 7th. we had an opportunity to speak with an american-born israeli commander. we can't give you his identity, but he ended up fighting in his own neighborhood on october 7th. he says he has never seen combat like this. >> basically what we did was anywhere from the gaza border to the settlement itself. when we identified terrorists coming in or going out with hostages, we attack them. >> that complicates things. you can't: air strike then. >> exactly you don't know if anyone going out has civilians with them, children, women, things like that. every attack has to be very
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precise. we have times when we went into a place and the terrorist was just a soldier in older to confuse us and surprise us. >> you have to make an instant decision. >> exactly, shoot or be shot. even though i'm a pilot support officer, because of the whole complicated situation that was going on over there, i also took on aspect of rest wing civilians. >> do your job is to target but not to rescue. speak with the situation was not -- even though we train for war, we did not expect something like this. this was a war, complete massacre, burning bodies, people being dragged through the streets naked. this was a war, a massacre. >> have you had any time to deal with the emotions of what you have been through? >> so, over the last couple of days we have been preparing for what is coming ahead. i'm trying to make it to the other side. later, we will have time to think about what happened
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really. >> this particular commander knows the complications, the risk, the dangers of fighting in the gaza strip and hamas. he is less concerned about that then he is about the potential of the front and northern part of the country, a fight with hamas simply because hamas hezbollah has better access to resupply, judge. >> judge jeanine: mike, stay safe. here the threats emanating from gaza not israel's only concern as hezbollah continues to a soul israel from the north and residents evacuate towns near the lebanon border. thousands are playing for their safety and the threat of a larger conflict looms over all of israel. for more come a go live to beirut, lebanon, where fox chief correspondent steve harrigan is standing by. good evening, steve. >> good evening, judge. fighting between hezbollah and the terrorist group by the u.s. and israeli forces along israel's northern border has been steady for the past two weeks.
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but there are widespread concerns this could mushroom into a much larger fight in a second front. israeli military released video showing what it says is destruction of hezbollah terrorist cell in lebanon. also the destruction of an object moving across the border towards israel, which may have been a drone. of course, israel on its side making preparations what could be worse case scenario nature fight on the second front effectuated communities including announcing friday the evacuation of one of the largest cities in the north pier 22,000 people taken from their homes and evacuated that put in government-funded guest houses. also in lebanon, many preparing for the war as well much possibly bigger fight. the national airline not only cut the number of flights but also moved many of its planes outside of the country for safekeeping from possible destruction. judge, back to you.
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>> judge jeanine: steve, with respect to the northern border in the evacuation that you just spoke of, would hezbollah coming out of lebanon, more strategic their weapons than from hamas, yes? >> absolutely right. one israeli defense official described them ten times more powerful than hamas. they are funded by iran and have done 150,000 rockets, precision guided missiles. so they could be a much tougher foe than hamas. >> judge jeanine: all right, steve, stay safe. thank you so much. yesterday we told you have the state department warning americans to leave lebanon as soon as possible. today, there are serious threats to the homeland. "the angle" with the homeland department of security and loan offenders motivated by a range of violent ideology post the most violent threat.
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joining me now paul and former head of intelligence operations at the nypd. paul, thank you for being with us. after spending over two and half years worrying about the supposed threat of white supremacy, the biden administration, will they start talking seriously about real threats? >> you know, all across the country, tourist officials are doing a reconfiguration. as you articulate under this administration and prior administration going back to obama administration, the threat, let's face facts on the right wing, supremacy and things like that. that is not to say they are not a threat and don't exist. since january 6th, i would call a blanket excuse to focus on those entities. that excuse will -- they've got to start to refocus on the homefront. there was a couple of reasons why it is undeniable and we talked about the border. i was doing this work i did it
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for 15 years. we didn't have this order issue. somebody showed up and complete no footprint and from an area of concern. we were getting reporting this person likely trouble, there would be such a spin up and all resources deployed. now, not only are they coming here, we are paying for it and we are helping them and bringing them to the major terrorist targets come in this case, new york city. so you have this population a whole new concern and a whole new vector hero, which is the universities. it was never this bad in the past. you have to say to yourself has the images start to come out of gaza groundwork, what will the reaction beyond the home front? there is tremendous anger and we have seen it. >> judge jeanine: paul, tremendous anger based on a light, based on a claim that israel bombed a hospital that we all know was a lie here that it was hamas rocket that inspired n the hospital was not bombed ande
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who died. the evidence is clear on that. but what is going to happen when israel actually starts the ground invasion, starts going into gaza? >> one of the things we have going on our side of the world on the homefront, tremendous propaganda war. hamas has begun to take a lesson from isis. isis was the entity that capitalized on social media, recruitment videos and things like that. hamas learned from that. hamas only punches that this this way but exclusively to destroy the state of israel and displace. now all of a sudden, they try to go global. they have a lot of willing allies come i believe, as you have seen. we will see as you articulate a battle between misinformation, genuine information, hamas and i will not reveal where it's available but it is all a act. taking a trick from isis because they want to get the word out and build support for their cause. that is not the palestinian
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cause, that is hamas' because. >> judge jeanine: we know that. we will have someone on the show to talk about how taking the humanitarian aid. but you know the anti-semitism that we are seeking, it is clear, it is brutal, it is real. i will must feel as though pre-world war ii moment. it is very scary. new york city of all places, but it is in the universities. once the real fighting starts, hamas doesn't even have to recruit. they are already here hanging at the jews. how do we get here? >> 1619 wing of the democratic party, real progressive bom and other adherents, they are soft targets for lack of a better term for people who want to go anti-is really route. the oppressor versus oppressed narrative. for people like hamas to sort of pinch themselves to the wagon. they have done it. one of the things, in light of
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that, where is the federal government case against the hamas leadership? judge from i will speak to your experience now. you know this better than anybody, you have the leaders of hamas residing in close circumstances extensively as an american ally. why are we not seeing a federal indictment that way you can go for extradition? we don't have extradition treaty with cawdor. but you know what may be if you put the pressure on. nothing else, you put the red pole notice and they get stuck in a neutral country that will do it, maybe you grab a couple of them. we have a bargaining chip they have ten american hostages. i don't see the case. i wonder why no one is calling for it. >> judge jeanine: maybe we out to start with calling back $6 billion from iran. maybe we should not allow iran to sell oil on the open market. maybe we ought to make sure that the money that donald trump took
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away from them that biden gave back to them. there is a lot we can do. that is a fascinating point with the department of justice, paul mauro, thank you for being with us tonight. up next, biden four-time speech is inspiring as the media thinks it was a question mark stephen miller, monica crowley react next.
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♪ ♪ >> it was such a clear and definitive powerful speech from president biden who has been just an incredible leader over the last 11 days. >> he was in command. he was strong. >> he was a comforter in chief. i thought it was moving. >> i thought it was a sadly experienced residents. at times like this, i am thank del might think and got joe biden's president and not donald trump. >> judge jeanine: a strong wartime president over oval office address last night but in reality, it was a total menace. joining me now stephen miller, founder of "america first" an advisor to president trump with a monica crowley secretary in the white house. stephen, what speech were they watching? >> not the same speech that you and i and the rest of america are watching. the president put trade
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weakness. that is the fundamental image that came across to the millions of people both watching it here and around the globe. american citizens are being taken hostage by hamas. they are the prisoners of hamas. they have been brutalized. they have been murdered. they have been subjected to horrors we cannot even imagine. instead of looking into the camera and saying, "do not touch a hair on their head or hurt our people. don't you dare, you will regret it for a thousand lifetimes!" he gave speech about islamophobia we have to be nicer to everybody and show restraint. it was an embarrassment! >> judge jeanine: i could not agree with you more pure and on the right side of your screen, you see air force one, the president is leaving and about . monica, you know, biden mentioned iran's connection to
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hamas but only briefly, listen. >> iran is supporting russia and ukraine and supporting hamas and other terrorist groups in the region. and will continue to hold them accountable. >> judge jeanine: is that supposed to sound forceful? it sounded like a footnote mentioned in passing. >> yeah, what does that even mean? the american president is sitting there while we have american hostages on the ground in israel. we have americans in harm's way, thanks to his weakness. and the state department just issued a worldwide caution for american citizens around the world. and he says he will hold iran accountable. nobody knows what that means. he did not articulate that. the president should have laid out a very aggressive agenda as exactly how he will hold tehran accountable. but instead, what he is doing is the exact opposite. he is fully committed to
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resurrecting the iran nuclear deal which is incredibly destructive, destabilizing to the world. and remains committed to enriching iran to lab extensions enforcement. he can talk all day about accountability for iran, but his actions show the exact opposite. empowering iran behind all of these attacks and the largest state sponsor of terror in his blood for 40 years. >> judge jeanine: stephen come i want you to take a listen to the sound of this for the muslim community being frustrated. >> i know many of you and muslim american community, the palestinian community and so many others are outraged and saying to yourselves, "here we go again." islamophobia and the stress we saw after 9/11. without equivocation denounce --
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and denounce islamophobia. >> judge jeanine: to the president talk about the children, the victims of octobe? >> no, pour statement. i want to return to this point. hamas has spilled american bl blood. they didn't take hamas seriously and the leaders are chilling out having the time of their lives, sipping champagne, living in their fancy compounds, having ten course meals and loving life. absolutely zero fear of the repercussions of taking americans lives. i'm not talking about nation-building. i'm talking about preventing foreign terrorists from murdering our people. president trump needs to say when he was in the white house, you murder our people in your life is forfeit. your life is forfeit. your life is forfeited. instead, all around the world, people think they can kidnap,
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imprison, torture, maim americans and all you will get m peered straight to iran and straighten to the terrace pockets and straight to hamas. this is a tremendous embarrassment and defacement and humiliation for this president. >> judge jeanine: you know, monica you were in the treasury department window donald trump cut off the money and we know joe biden turns us pick it back on. what should be done at this point? to iran? >> welcome if you want to cut the head of the snake you go directly to tehran and cut off the money. this administration so far has unfrozen about $10 billion. everybody is focused on the $6 billion which the administration refuses to move on but since joe biden became president come about $10 billion. on top of that, because of this administration has refused to forcefully enforce sanctions
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against tehran, they have enriched iran to the tune of $80 billion to allow them to make that and oil profits exactly. if you want to cut the head off of the snake, you have to stop the money flow. this administration refuses to do it because absolutely committed to resurrecting the obama deal, the big legacy item, incredibly destructive to the region and the world. they are intent to do it so they don't want to do anything to alienate the iranians in the face of this massive, massacre and he is a real. >> judge jeanine: it is amazing. panel come i you so much for being with us this evening. what is going to happen to that humanitarian aid that we are sending into gaza? our next guest saw firsthand what hamas has done with it in the past and he is here to explain. plus, who is the idf's toptexa target? target?
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♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: dead man walking, that is is really defense forces with describing one hamas leader. what do we know about the man who has become israel's number one target? joining me live from tullibe fox on lucas tomlinson. what can you tell us? >> judge from israeli officials compare the leader from hamas to usama bin laden. hamas blamed for killing 1400's release in october 7th massacre and the leader of hamas, here is his name. the head of israeli forces calling the dead man walking, as you mentioned, believed to be in the gaza strip. and joined not long after 1987,
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two years later arrested by israel for involvement in abduction and killing of two is a release in torture and murder of four palestinians he considered to be collaborators. sentenced to life in prison, yahya sinwar serving 22 years in israeli jail and released as part of a prisoner exchange and abducted israeli soldier in 2011. the israeli soldier spent over five years in hamas captivity. he returned to gaza and became a popular leader in hamas, affiliate of muslim brotherhood. and judges, she will know, the israeli forces and intelligence services go back to 1976 with the raid, of course, 2010 israeli commandos and intelligence operatives went to uae to track and kill senior hamas leader. judge. >> judge jeanine: all right, lucas, thank you so much, stay safe. >> i have a commitment from the
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israeli president of the region. the highway had to be repaved and in very, very bad shape. and the next 24-48 hours. the one for biden administration wants us to think this humanitarian aid won't fall into the hands of hamas. but is that even possible? are we just handing them a gift? joining me now someone experienced with aid going into gaza. dan gordon, defense forces reserved captain. dan, when you were fighting hamas, there were daily cease-fire is to allow aid. how did that go, and who did the aid go to? >> thank you for having me, judge. i served in three wars against hamas. and every one of those wars from 1:00 until 3:00 in the afternoon, we would have what is called humanitarian cease-fire
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every single day to allow countless trucks to go into gaza with humanitarian aid. i went in to gaza a place where i talk to palestinians over there. one palestinian authority came up to me and said the minute the aid would come in, hamas would hijack it, take the best for themselves and take the rest of it and put it on the black market, check up the prices tenfold and sell it. president biden conditioned continued aid into gaza on hamas not stealing the aide. this administration and the israelis and international community is not unaware of the fact that every past conflict, hamas has stolen the aid. >> judge jeanine: so, dan, how could biden expect the israelis to make sure that the aide gets the palestinians if their own government if you want to call hamas that, is stealing it? why would biden put that burden
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on israel? >> you know, i have no idea. i believe while i am grateful to the administration for the show of support they have given to israel both as an american and israeli come i believe a mistake was made and not preconditioning the giving of aid not just hamas not stealing it but the fact that the international red cross should be allowed to immediately go in and make sure that every hostage is okay receiving the medical aid they need with any . it is not too late to correct that mistake. i would call on the president of the administration to precondition that aid not just on hamas not stealing it which is not a higher moral bar but on the international red cross going into make sure that this aid gets to the palestinians and that the hostages are visited by representatives of the international red cross. their families finally know they
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are okay. when i was in a country, had one farmer come up to me, "why don't you go in and kill them all? who are we supposed to kill? hamas. i thought hamas were your guys? he said, the field we are standing in, this used to be my farm. should i use to grow the best sunflower seeds in the entire middle east. now it is rockets and i cannot feed my family my family rockets. >> judge jeanine: you know, dan so many sad stories. thank you so much for what you are doing. dan, thank you. how did the u.s. get into this position? position? are we being dragged into yet another war? victor davis has it and examines it next. stay there. n't look like an eng. there is this preconception. some things are for boys. but diversity drives innovation. my goal is to really flip the script. pick something that you love and go for it.
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♪ ♪ >> now, just as a rule or two, today building the arsenal of democracy and serving the cause of freedom. >> judge jeanine: this is a pivotal time for the united states. and what would help get us here is the shameful appeasement to iran not just by biden but by obama's will. joining me now victor davis hanson, senior fellow with the hoover institute. victor, thank you for being with us. everyone remembers the wooden
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pallets stacked with cash that obama sent to iran with love letters. what else got us here? are we in a pre-world war ii moment? >> well, it depends. i think the enemies of the united states and israel think we are, but it depends on our deterrence. we have two aircraft carriers in the eastern mediterranean. we have israeli ways to to destroy hamas. if we allow israelis to destroy hamas i don't think has below will intervene. if they don't destroy it or feel or seem to be weak, hezbollah -- and the same is true with our fleet. if they tolerate no, no, not one rocket pointed at them. if the president demands they kill one american and gaza, they will pay for it, then i think we will avoid a war. but if you continue to nullify them, they will consider it that
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weakness to be exploited and to be reciprocated. i don't think we have appeased iran. it is a little bit worse than that. the obama administration and continuation of the biden administration is they see it as strategic partnership. kerry was meeting with the foreign minister all during the trump administration on several occasions. king abdullah, you remember, he suggested to us that we might have two bomb them iran and leon panetta said and he was in the obama administration come i don't think you are serious about stopping this iranian nuclear program. so, they really thought they could partner with iran and create operational block to the saudis, golf monarchies come israel and create tension. they would adjudicate as if no moral difference between humane and constitutional israel and
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theocratic bloodthirsty and terrorist supporting iran. that is why we are in this fix right now. a lot of those people, judge komar stolen the biden administration and believe they can partner with iran and create some paradigm in the middle east. >> judge jeanine: biden was asked moments ago will israel delay cramped invasion until you can pull the hostages out? his answer, "yes." your reaction. >> well, he doesn't really understand that 1,400 people were murdered and mutilated and desecrated. when he keeps telling them, you restrain, you restrain, you restrained, does he have credibility? not when he gives $100 billion to hamas. antony blinken, even though he knew that story was questionable and then ultimately falls about
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the hospital, he was telling the embassies and the middle east to lower the flag to half mask. that showed weakness. it showed -- and joe biden said they didn't shoot straight, what does that mean? had they shot straight and killed jews we would not be in this fix of demonstration to mollify or appease the middle east? the white house is not just counterproductive but bizarre and it's really surreal, judge. >> judge jeanine: it is an even with one of the architects of iran nuclear deal they want him to be an ambassador to israel, victor. >> i know, i think they are saying to iran, we want to enter into a partnership and do it so much we are willing to defend the israelis. their sensibilities and practical reality, we will put iran deal promoter right in them at a time when they have suffered 1400 casualties. that could show you how much we
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are interested in restoring what barack obama created. >> judge jeanine: all right, victor, thank you so much. always appreciate having you one. the anti-semitic bio being spewed across college campuses is shocking. the next test der director directors at the push for inclusion is partly to blame. she will explain next. ♪ ♪
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>> i want this message to get to every parent in america. we send our kids to nyu, haverford harvard, stanford. berkeley. we will never allow, never allow the kkk to march on her campus! we would never allow pro isis demonstration on campus! but here, we have pro organizations. >> judge jeanine: these protests, the columbia
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protesters talking about are not just happening at ivy league schools. we have counted them in more than 30 colleges across the u.s. sent hamas launch their attack on israel nearly two weeks ago. so why are colleges seemingly giving the green light for students to be out right anti-semitic? especially with a major push over the last few years to make campuses diverse and inclusive? dr. tapia lee, former der director at the college and a first hand experience with anti-semitic that is permeating the universities. and inclusion department until she was fired. she suspects that played a part. the doctor joins me now and senior fellow at do no harm. dr. lee, you tried to create an inclusive environment for all
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students, including jewish students. so what happened? >> you know, judge, when you show the screen of the many campuses who are holding these pro-terrorist organizations, celebrating hamas and the atrocities that have taken place, many of those colleges are the same colleges that closed white coats for black lives. they host students for justice for palestine and jewish voice for peace quite a lot to be rid of what we see when those organizations in particular are operating is this di that is critical social justice form of dei and that means only certain groups of students are included. and only students seen as victims are oppressed, centered and everyone else left to the
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wayside. in fact, actually silenced. if you happen to be a jewish student and pro-israel at all, your voice is definitely silenced because these groups are groups that just make a very intimidating environment here they are very anti-zionist openly and posted on their social media celebrating octobe. and this is who is straining for future medical students, the future american studies students and lawyers in all disciplines when these operate on campus. and now people are starting to see it with the celebrations that we never thought we would see in america. >> never, never. >> judge jeanine: i have to ask you. you said openly those who are seen as victims what we saw two weeks ago with 1,400 israelis not just killed or shot but massive her brutalized.
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how are they not seen as victims? how are the jews not seen as victims here? >> you know under this ideology, judge, they have this opinion and a worldview that everything operates through matrix of privilege and oppression. and according to ideologues, i encountered them directly. when i talk about jewish inclusion in attempting to address anti-semitism on campus come i was told in no uncertain terms that jewish people are white oppressors here the focus of all faculty and staff should be to dissenter whiteness whiteness. these are just such strange sounding things, but they are real things. we see the real results in the student protest and student letters. >> judge jeanine: dr. taft ble, thank you so much. that is it for us tonight.
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