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we are straight to fox news alert just been. idf said it made sweeping arrests overnight. capturing at least 68 hamas terrorists. israeli forces destroyed the house of the trencher terrorists who murdered an american citizen during the surprise attack two weeks ago. rachel: arrests come as humanitarian aid enters in through gaza through the rafah crossing. joey: comes on the heels of of r losing to american hostages. and her teenage daughter natalie were taken it to an israeli military base weeks after being abducted by the chair group. will: secretary of state anthony lincoln believes the majority of hostages are still alive. meanwhile it is really ground

offensive is imminent. idf believes the release of the american hostages is simply a delaying tactic. >> anything that hamas does is only to further their hair terrorists interest. we have seen this before. it's right out of the hamas playbook. rachel: let's go to trey yingst live on the ground in southern israel. good morning. it has been great checking it with you all morning. what else have you been hearing? click to guys, good morning it pretty saw some the images in the gaza strip earlier. some black smoke rising up as the israeli airstrikes target different hamas positions throughout gaza. all this leading up to that expected ground operation still around this area. thousands of troops staging and waiting for those orders. you mimagine the arrest overnigd the west bank israelis are taking no chances arresting anyone with transient links it. not just on the south but in the west bank. as a tension rises in the north. i do want to show what it was like overnight here as hamas and

islamic jihad continued to fire small rockets and mortars toward southern israel. take a look at. thirteen palestinians were killed weeks ago there could be more fire here. just a with me. leave the camera just stay with me. we've got to move because they are very close. everyone in? listen to our camera. what you heard there the whistle of incoming mortar fire. those were indeed mortar fired at this position. we are so close to the gaza border you have about 10 seconds to get the cover. that plan we implemented there we had discussed that before heads, leave the camera, get to a shelter in hardcover this is very active here along the front. there have also been mortars

fired from syria and lebanon over the past week. this is been an ongoing fluid situation for it we know some of the fire coming from lebanon including mortar and rockets have drawn an israeli response. overnight releasing video showing the different targets in southern lebanon the defense minister going to the northern part of israel today to speak with troops and then a message to hezbollah to say that group has decided to get involved in the fight will pay a heavy price for it differently went to bring your attention to the gaza border were getting new images from the rafah crossing between egypt and gaza. we understand was 28 trucks were able to cross into the strip. we're not sure about the foreign citizens. hundreds of them waiting in southern gaza to cross into egypt. will: hate trade, and the lead into the your report we had 68 members of hamas had been arrested. you know anything more about that was in israel?

the west bank? part of the incursions? do we know anything about who the 68 are? >> yes, we do bring the west bank these individuals were arrested hamas has a very strong political presence in addition to a military presence. we have seen been with the israeli military when the been engaged in gun battles against hamas milligan's. they're quite popular in some areas. as we drive to the west bank is my team and i have done in the past it. you go through certain towns and on the light poles there are hamas flags across small towns for it gives you a sense of how much support hamas has the west bank it is not just the main political party the palestinian president but the second largest. part of these raids that took place overnight were to get not just militants but the political members of hamas on the west

bank there is a real understanding this third front could open up with unrest. they went to rest as many leaders as they can before any of that really spreads because it would create just another security situation for the israelis to deal with. joey: there's another group we mentioned it is the islamic jihad the palestinian islamic jihad. do they have a completely other rank structure and leadership or is it a group within hamas can you explain that just a little bit? >> yes islamic jihad is a separate organization. they have far less political influence but they do have significant military influence. in gaza and the west bank. there are islamic jihad militants throughout the west bank in different areas. we are talking big refugees c caps. there are some fighters from islamic jihad but inside gaza is where the focus is this week. because islamic jihad is a second largest faction inside gaza. they have thousands of rockets

and on stockpile separate from hamas they fought wars with israel, just that organization. they have thousands of militants inside gaza so in the israelis have ground operations are going to be engaged by tens of thousands of people at different levels. we are talking with geordie of the militants of those thousands in that group. the majority of people in gaza are civilians but it's part of the reasons they try to get them out of the way because they know they're going to be involved in huge firefights. there we street to street fighting. and these hamas islamic jihad militants will be involved in different ways it will be a bloodied battle but we should discuss the israelis have been talking this week and acknowledging they will take casualties in gaza for this will not be an easy fight. there will be resistance immediately when they get inside for that's part of the reason we're seeing this del delay thed time to prepare. rachel: scary stuff, trait thank you and be safe. joey: stay safe. rachel: the spring and john roberts he is life in jerusalem

with the latest. jon, good morning. >> hate ritual hate pete's hate joey. what's on the minus what happened next and when this ground operation began? the fact judith and natalie were released last night seen as a relay for delaying tactic one is actually that's raise questions as to whether or not israel should delay any ground operation or maybe suspend the bombings while negotiations with qatar over the hostages continue. president biden was asked about this last night as he was leaving washington d.c. for delaware. somebody shouted a question at him should israel suspend a ground war until the hostages are brought out or more hostage negotiations? the president answered yes which surprised a lot of people and then the white house walk that back to say he was a long way away he misheard the question was yes, more hostages should be released. the ground operation is ready to go. it has been sitting there for a number of days now ready to go.

at the same type more activity on the northern border with hezbollah. the skirmishing has increased leaving the defense administered to say the idf is ready to take on hezbollah as well. there is a great challenge ahead of us. the israeli people have a tremendous resilience whether we were in tel aviv at a relief organization and it had been protesting the judicial reform and flip the script to bring in all the supplies have been displaced or whether it is a young kid who's over here studying from the united states and set up got to do something for her and started collecting donations. whether it's people at the western wall which by the way is empty coming to say a prayer for the soldiers there's a sense that they finally something have to change in the israeli defense forces they are insistent they're ctherechanging the equae

around. it's a matter of when and how. very interesting you've had everyday people who are living in this wartime environments. they are also changing their habits including personal defense and preparing for their own families and their own protection. >> it there's no question about that. but fundamentally change the way people think here it is really what happened on october 7 because everyone believes the army will protect us the army has all of this sophisticated equipment the police will protect us. but they were not prepared for it was this low-tech attack that came through. now it's got people thinking desperate times really require prudent measures. watch what we found. >> the attacks of october the seventh left its r is israelis a deep sense of vulnerability. until now the threat of terrorism had come mostly from the skies or on the streets from a loan attacker.

the horror of hundreds of terrorists slaughtering people in their homes is a fundamentally change the israeli mindset. what are they doing in response? follow me. shooting range is not among the landmarks it and really come to mind when you think of jerusalem. but since the terror attacked gun shop and shooting range has been slammed by people looking for protection. since october the seventh how much has business increase? how many people been coming in? >> this week i am here 23 years here in this place that another place in jerusalem. i have never, never would see this. i would say people come is unbelievable what happened. >> what are people telling it

when you speak to them when they come into the shop? >> we are going to protect ourselves we need a gun. we do not believe what is happening in israel. we need to be safe. we do not want to fight with anybody. >> but if someone tries to kill you? >> i need to kill him. also if i come to kill you you need to kill me before. >> are people buying weapons because they always believed the israeli army and the police would protect them. >> we are not huge like america not 340 million. we are small. we are a small army. small police. the people believe it yes we have an army, we have a police. but now we understand we need to take care of himself and his family so you should buy a gun. >> the way is really think of fundamentally change october 7? >> absolutely, yes. i talked with the people, i spoke here and i see people

coming that's before a few months. for what we need gun? no gun, no gun, we don't need, we don't need. now you want to gun, why? the mind hasn't changed a thousand times it has changed. >> compared to the u.s. and israel gun ownership is still pretty rare. obtaining a firearm is a long process of licensing which includes lengthy interviews with police, instruction, and training. of the population of 9.6 million only one hurt 60000 civilians own guns. but the interior ministry is expedited the process because ot increase threats against jews. the family lives in a village in the west bank. he has had a gun for a while now. gabrielle recently obtained his permit, and just apply for one pair. >> you have just applied for a permit for a firearm? why did you think it was important to get protection? >> i have also always wanted. i put it off for a wild, new

job, new apartment, whatever. after that saturday it just became very obvious that i need to be able to protect myself, my family, my community. cookson heard about what happened but with your mind in that regard? >> utter catastrophe. i cannot imagine what this people went through. but the stories that i have heard of people that did have guns and protection in the house did a protect so many lives. >> do you believe if it came down to it it's a medicament your house was going to kill you you can pull the trigger? >> one 100% is like a mama bear instincts, right? anyone who hurts me or my fa family, no just no. quickly asking this question you have had a weapon for a while. were you encouraging them to save you know what? the world out there is changing and need to protection. >> yes i think anyone who can have a firearm to protect themselves should have a firearm to protect themselves.

>> it is a long, long process is it worth it? >> one 100%. to have a fighting chance gives me stability and protection that i feel like wholeness. i could do something i am not a sitting duck. that is very important for me especially whoever lives in this country needs that. >> just reflect on what layla said about the reason to have a weapon they have heard stories some of the people seen settlers are people who live there who had weapons were able to kill terrorists. but as gabrielle said they are, if you do not have some way to protect yourself and something what happened on o october the seventh you are nothing more than a sitting duck. looks i love this thank you so much reporting on this. i remember it when they change the regulation last week to allow folks that were waiting to be approved to go ahead and get a gun. there's a couple other things they have done for the do not

have a second amendment right of speaking lasted two gun manufacturer here in the united states it also mix ammunition said there's a big shortage of ammunition around the world. the conflict in ukraine. did it seemed like when you were at the gun so that guns and ammo to buy? did it seemed like something the country may have to prepare for moving forward? >> oh yes there is no question about it. they had everything necessary but again, even though, joey, they began to speed up the process by making more people eligible and kind of fast tracking applications this is what you've got to go through a few points if they've got to go through to get a gun for it first among of the check to make sure you meet the eligibility requirements. then you have to get a health declaration my family dr. certificate of confirmation of past military service, national national>> service or exemptionm service, then you have to go to an interview with the police. and it says here if you pass the interview you will get approval to continue by a firearm and go to a mandatory training program

at a shooting range. this is a long process again they tried to expedited a bit but still is going to take weeks between the time a person initially applies for a license for a firearm and they can walk out of there pith it. joey: remind you what a blessing the second moment is thank you. >> thank you for all your reportedly appreciate it. >> event good to see you. rachel: i know americans are so it happened and israel and went out and got guns they know our border is open for they have heard rumors that could be cells forming here. they are like i'm going to protect as well. >> in israel are such a sense. not the invincibility of the idea but how overwhelming their advantage was. hey, they will protect us. joey: of the greatest threat as a rocket you're not gonna shoot at that with a gun. the idea of human beings being the greatest threat is new in some way. i cannot imagine the psychology of what people are going through in israel right now today.

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rachel: we will return to the break in coverage of the war in israel but first a quick have qk headlights. next him at the washington president biden is said to hold a first of a kind summit to discuss the ongoing illegal immigrant crisis but representatives from 11 countries will be on hand including many from central and south america. and in new hampshire governor taking action due to concerns about the northern border forming a new task force to help secure the border with canada. house oversight committee james comer is questioning $8,200,000 direct payment from james abide

into joe biden in 2018. the check was written as a quote loan repayments. calling the move troubling claim it happened after biden's brother received $600,000 in loans from a company called americorps. the white house defending the president sank the repayment happened will he was a private citizen. the latest revelations come as the house oversight committee conducts an impeachment inquiry. important story, and those are your headlines. joey: thanks. as unrest rises in the middle east the pentagon reveals a u.s. naval destroyer took out 15 drones and four cruise missiles heading to israel the uss carney was egypt's suez canal when it took out the barrage of enemy fire in a span of nine hours. kirk lippold former navy commander of the uss cole and he joins us now. commander thank you so much for joining us.

i was trying to figure this out before you came on. his uss carney a part of the 26th that was just brought up to the canal? >> that i do not know if it is or not. typically a destroyer is assigned they tend to stay close by simply because they want to be able to protect that force. joey: tell us what this looks likes or talk about drone that's relatively new technology printed aircraft that has the capability to destroy something sometimes are not flying very fast. what type of weapons capabilities as a destroyer have to combat these new technologies? >> with the technology the weapon system the speight radar which the carney has is the same as my ship uss cole had is designed to pick up the small targets. and then you have a variety of weapons. they could have used anything from 5-inch gun which is probably the most likely it is doubtful they would use surface-to-air missiles but if it got in close they could use the 20-millimeter close weapon

system. joey: the report is 15 drones, four cruise missiles. the report does not seem to suggest they were fired at the ship or even the fleets, the u.s. fleet. but possibly in israel. this is considered a direct u.s. engagement? and say the united states is at work? i would not say that. thankfully first and foremost is commend the crew of the uss carney for the great job in intercepting this for missiles on the 15 drones. the fact that it came in over a period of time clearly that ship and the commanding officer was given the rules of engagement necessary to ensure it. the other thing is when the missiles are coming towards you do not want to say we don't know where they are going let's hesitate and awaits an update last minute the missile picks you up as the radar target instead of its ultimate target and decides to change course you have to be in a very reactive mode the fact that carney was proactive saw them, detected

them and engage them is a credit to the training of the crew and how well they have done. joey: the rules of engagement such a good point. we do not know what our involvement is going to look like. what borders have been brought down to the chain of command is supporting the israeli defense force in their active offensive operations. but we look at the totality of u.s. forces that will be essentially off the coast of israel. we are talking to aircraft carrier groups and as well as this. smaller ships but a lot of capabilities. will be bwe bring that continget together united states military off the coast there is there a more capable contingent of military anywhere in the world that we have right there at that moment. >> know. that's one of the great things as having those two aircraft carrier strike groups off the coast serves as a deterrent in stabilizing force. it allows us to tell first and foremost iran that if you push

and if you engage with all of your other proxy forces and they take a shot at israel or begin to engage on multiple fronts or if they engaged u.s. naval forces, that we reserve the right first and foremost for self-defense. then if necessary to project power if necessary to protect the united states national security interest. and then do that in coordination with it what israel is doing as they prepare for the ground invasion into gaza. joey: your expert teaches un- matched we enjoy having on these are questions a lot of americans do not know our navy is something to be so proud of. it is so great to hear, unfortuunfortunate a success stn time of war. thank you for your service and thank you for joining us. >> thank you joey. joey: still ahead a digital while israel battles change to another terror organization to the north said they are a thousand times stronger than that used to be. how hezbollah could impact the war, next.

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pete: of the iran backed lebanese military group is a thousands of times stronger than before. but how did they rise to power? let's break it down a little bit before we bring in our guest. hezbollah is shiite unlike hamas god. as found in 1982 joey and i were talking about this writer on the time of the barracks bombing were all the marines were killed up it's inconclusive whether hezbollah was directly involved or i wrong was directly involved there were a lot of indications and that was the beginning of this militant organization focusing on the west appeared in terms of money, it's not any small amount hezbollah gets her my ron every year.

$700 million direct from iran every year. they re rescinded three or milln of a billion from their own sources inside lebanon. they are flushed with cash we know it comes from my ron. they claim to have 100,000 fighters. that is their own estimates or take it for what it is. this is also an estimate western officials have more or less confirmed one or 50000 rockets and missiles. that is why there is so much concern about opening up a northern front should they move on the gaza strip. they do have political power as well. it might only 13 seats in parliament of 128 but because they controlled the ground with their military they have a lot more influence than those 13 seats. of course if you want to work with israel before in 2006 they also attacked an israeli army base in 2019. this is not their first time they are threatening now to do a lot more than to launch missiles north of israel. robert greenway is the director of the center for national defense at the heritage

foundation and he joins us. robert, does any of this surprise you? the hyperbole? we note hezbollah in islamic are prone to hyperbole. what strong is hezbollah what can you force could they bring? >> thanks for having me on this morning, pete. since 2 2006 long-term israel ad hezbollah locked horns ron and hezbollah have taken campaign to expand their military the missiles you've mentioned over half of those are precision. they can strike a target between five and 10 meters of probability and overwhelm potentially israel's air defense systems. the threat coming from multiple directions bring them to a complicated arrangement of they are unable to defend themselves that is what hezbollah in my ron are counting on. pete: robert you are out letting 75000 precision missiles pointed at any and all targets inside israel, how could they live with

that nonstop threat? >> i'm not sure they can. we'll find out shortly. israel has been ringing the alarm bell for quite some time and this is the capability that iran has provided to hezbollah. you mention the funding and the funding is significant. the equipment in large measure comes through syria for d.c. strikes in damascus at the airport it's the transfer to make those non- precision missiles into precision missiles fwfor they've been doing it foro long the inventory is significant. ultimately we are leading up to a point at which those missiles could be employed it is why the presence of u.s. assets in the region from an air defense perspective could augment and make all the difference for israel. pete: robert could this have menstruation deter iran? they are going to turn the on office which considering the influence they have connate deter iran without talking about iran as we have seen them so far basically skirt the issue?

>> and noaa. the only way to deter iran is demonstrably stop the attacks we have been attacked in iraq and syria in the last 48 hours we sought missiles coming from yemen a long range drones and land attackers missiles coming towards israel we have to demonstrate the will. we've got to stop them physically. we can't to be attacked and not respond. pete: robert, can we do that without escalating? dormant donald trump famously smoked in the baghdad airport were told the world was going to explode and did it for free to send a strong signal. how do you do without escalating? >> the only way to prevent escalation is by confronting it. as we did with soleimani we were able to stop the escalation spiral quickly communicated to us they were done after that. once they recognize we had the will and demonstrated capability they will stop but it is the only way. pete: robert greenway thank you for your expertise this morning. still ahead house remains without a speaker of that house.

republicans w removed jim jordan as the nominee. congressman pete sessions is putting his hat in the ring and he makes his case to us and to all of you coming up next. plus irwin escaped nazi germany when he was nine years old. and says what is happening today in israel reminds him of the horrors he faced over 80 years ago. he is going to join us next.

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a cease fire it now to save lives. we cannot continue to stand idly by gnome as we watch this death toll climate. >> we stand here today calling for a cease-fire because all life is precious too. >> where is your humanity? where is your outrage? where is your care? >> the democratic squad members they are banding together calling for a cease-fire in gaza. seven even as hamas continues a barrage against israel rallies the world in a second day of rage. pete: just another meeting of the hamas caucus at the podium.

texas congressman pete session joins us of. thank you for being here. what do you make of those voices taking the lead and how a lot of democrats feel about the conflict right now? >> in fact this is not a new issue. that they have sought out people from the middle east moved to the united states but they choose to hear including the political career a number of these members of congress. what is amazing is there was very little said at the time hamas -- they call that tolerable. they called it justifiable in fact it's not. israel is now allowed too and did protect themselves and they should end the matter and make sure it does not happen again. last time, 58 years ago they took care of that matter it is back then you take care of it again. rachel: congressman i found it

that presley ended her remarks markswith scripture passages ths from a ruthless dusting the scripture passage was about babies and everything else paid this to my very ruthless pro- abort ship. .the entire squad is. >> there is no question about it too. they have different views, different values, different ideas about the future. this is the democratic party today. you can see it in the streets of new york. you can see it in the streets of chicago. it is what they have brought the united states. they have brought them because they choose to change the united states of america so we do not even look like our self. we it is being done right before our eyes with not just the biden administration but the supported events of the democratic party. joey: may be if this would've happened a couple weeks ago house leadership would be looking at some of these members saying they should be censored on the house floor. maybe move from the committees they are part of.

you cannot do that you do not have a speaker right now cannot do a whole lot of anything. you are looking to run for speaker. tell us why it is you should be speaker of the house? >> the conference lisa come together. we have put a century or top two or three people up. they have spent a good bit of time telling us their plans, their ideas. but it takes 217 votes on the floor to become speaker. we are divided in the conference. the conference is not looking for and i am looking for bringing this together. back in 2009 we were essentially wandering in a desert together. we were 40 seats back. part of my job was to focus on the activity that needed to be done. we got 96 people who would commit themselves to make sure we won the majority and we won

63 net seats. the republican conference will work together, we are very effective and get her job done. we are little bit divided, it's time to come together. i believe i can do exactly that. if we work together and it will be done because we give them a pathway of working these problems out and moving us forward. the eight seats are a lot divided these days it. as mike waltz pointed out earlier in the show, when speaker mccarthy was elected by policy differences are process differences. but it became personal. this on a personal animosity inside the carcass right now. how does one person overcome that considering the factions in the finger-pointing? >> mike makes a good point. and he is correct. what we need to do is come together and set up working at each other it we need to work with each other. i have done this in the past. we have ideas just as jim jordan

did. just as steve sc steve scalia sd about moving forward. you move forward to move forward to protect this country. the economic security of this country is hanging by a thread. we must be successful. i think our conference can get it done. that is what monday will be about. and if we accomplish this, america will see great things. i think our conference, it is still a young conference, can learn to work together. rachel: congressman i've been talking to a lot of republicans around the country. they are disgusted by what is happening. they feel like republicans should be united now more than ever. especially the only place where we actually -- republicans actually have a majority. some of them are concerned this chaos and lack of coming together on this leadership issue is potentially jeopardizing maybe even the presidential election.

>> rachel, what you say is exactly true. we have not presented o ourselvs to the american people in a way that they would want to see us be successful in them believing they could be successful with us being a majority party. it is my hope that we will focus our self now as we began doing it yesterday. we began talking about exactly that. it is my hope that my speakership would allow us not to just work together but to achieve the things where people went from site to fix. is that fight to fix a transition that we need to get done. joey: congressman, good luck to you. i've you're writing for speaker you have more than 200 phone calls to make between now and when you meet everyone thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. rachel: thank you congressman. joey: coming up the 2024 presidential candidate senator tim scott will join us live.

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rachel: anti- israel protests continue to break out across college campuses. while you pen faces outrage from some of their donors for hosting a writers special speakers at the event called for death to israel. our next guest just resigned from the board of trustees accusing leadership of embracing and types semitism. von joins us now. thank you for joining us this morning. you are no longer part of the board. you were expressing concern about anti-semitism before this attack even happened when there was this a palestinian writers festival and some of the people who were asked to come had already given anti-semitic remarks. and had things on social media. what happened when you brought that to the attention of the

university? >> so, two prominent university alum ron loiter and dick wolf brought this to the attention of president mcgill and indicated to her the sponsors of the event were not only anti- somatic book called for the destruction of israel and the murders of innocent people. she was given information, research, very detailed research about the individuals. and yet still allow that festival to go on. and in today's cancel culture it would've been very easy for her to cancel that event but she didn't. that university of pennsylvania has a lot of a prominent men and women who serve on the board of trustees. for her not to seek the advice and counsel of the board as a

whole wasn't negligence on her part in a very, very big mistake. rachel: the pro hamas sentiments that we are seeing on campus so many are not pro- palestinian they are approached hamas and silverton bat. it is part and parcel with this woke ideology. i have been very surprised board members like yourself seem to be, a lot of them across the country and donors seem to be surprised that this ideology which is again tied to so much of the woke liberal ideology they are surprised it's on campus. why did it take people so long to wake up to this? why did it take this attack for donors and board members to realize this was part of the campus culture? >> you know when everything is going smooth the university is

run on an even keel and there is no controversy. none of the trustees upset the apple cart. although having said that there were three or four members of the board of trustees who have been dissented for would have otherwise be an automatic, unanimous vote on every single issue. those members, when they dissented were contacted by the chairman of the board and basically asked to leave the board. well, as i indicated these a arevery prominent people in the board of trustees. the men and women who serve. they told scott under no uncertain terms are they going to resign. when that got out into the public denied he said that. rachel: i would just say a lot of conservatives do not think things have been so smooth on campus at all. and that this kind of ideology

has been well noted and has created a lot of discrimination for conservatives. now we are seeing it for the jewish community. what you want to have happen now? >> to be honest with you i do not see -- in the lex last seven days y you've had seven very, vy prominent alum write letters to the univer university and indicy will no longer financially support the university. the latest is the winston family. you had it dick wolf and mark rowland. at this stage there is no other alternative but to have liz and scott resign for the good of the institution. rachel: thank you very much a call for defending all universities because it is doctor nation. thank you so much.

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