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talking to the people you're talking to? >> yes. i can't talk, say why it's been postponed. the only way that those hostages are going to see a day of light is the most violent direct action, the most elite military force can wring to the battle -- bring to the battle, that has to happen. i don't want to talk about the dire situation that they're in, but it is absolutely crucial that this is a dog fight like stalingrad, like fallujah. our men and and women and the brave idf soldiers go in there and give them the battle that they do not want which is the fiercest, most scariest type of war they would ever seen. rachel: all right. tim kennedy, army ranger -- joey: appreciate you, brother. stay safe. pete: for more information, save our allies.org is who tim is working with over there. rachel: see you tomorrow morning. bye, even. everybody. david: well, before the ground offensive into gaza, we are
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taking looks at preparations for the trucks that are trying to bring aid into the area of gaza. we're looking in rafah right now where cooperation between the egyptians and hamas that has a gained momentum as we see continued progress into what's happening and trying to help out those people that have been affected by israeli bombing. meanwhile, we have decisions yet to be made in terms of what's going to happen in israel when they get together and finally make their incursion into gaza. we will find out what's happening. we're going to be talking to a major opposition member e of knesset, of their congress, coming up. all opposition now within israel seems to have subsided as a result of the ongoing war. we will also be talking to some of the family members of those
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still being held hostage in, in gaza. we have an american-israeli couple who are desperate for information about what is happening with their son. trey yingst, meanwhile, is on the scene in israel with more right now. trey. >> reporter: yeah, david, good morning. right now we are on the front lines between israel and gaza. we've listened as israeli shells whiz overhead. also the factions inside gaza continuing rocket fire towards southern and central israel 15 days into this conflict. if sirens still sound in the city of tel aviv, the second largest population center in this country. i do want to show you what the scene was like last night here as factions inside gaza fired mortars at this location. thirteen palestinians were killed -- we need to go, because there could be mortar fire here. just stay with me. everyone -- yep, leave the camera and just stay with me. we've got to move because we're
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very close. that's mortar. get into cover. everyone in? listen to our camera. [background sounds] so what you heard there, the whistle of incoming mortar fire. so those e were, indeed, mortars that were fired at this position. and we are so close to the gaza border, you have about 10 seconds to get to cover. that plan that we just implemented there, we had discussed that beforehand; leave the camera, get to a shelter and hard cover because this is very active here along the front. [background sounds] and we do know as the fighting continues here near the northern part of the gaza strip, on the southern part of the gaza strip we do have positive developments as it relates to the humanitarian crisis developing inside gaza. today at least 28 trucks were able to enter the gaza strip through the rafah crossing from egypt. this is positive news as more than 2 million palestinians are still in gaza is and in need of
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both medical supplies and food which we understand those trucks were bringing. additionally overnight, we brought to you, indently- independently-confirmed information that those two american hostages were released. today we're learning 210 total hostages, that number is higher than we had earlier in the week, are currently being held, but overnight 2 american citizens were released as part of a deal negotiated by qatar, judith and natalie rah ranaan, and the father of that young woman and also his ex-wife, this man speaking out overnight just overjoyed about what took place, able to talk to his family once again. take a listen. >> reporter: can you describe what it's been like to wait and not know? if. >> it was, there was situation. i did not sleep at night, and my head always been in israel. lots of phone calls to israel. lots of tv.
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i've been glued to the t for two weeks -- tv for two weeks hoping for good news. finally, it came. >> reporter: you can hear his voice shaking there. this has been such a difficult situation for the families of those being held inside gaza as airstrikes continue to hit the gaza strip. limited information is coming out about those families, and you can just imagine the relief that someone like that man would feel after he gets the news that his family is okay. we do understand there are ongoing negotiations behind the scenes trying to get more hostage as freed. david? david: very quickly, trey, can you tell me are those tricks coming into gaza being inspected for weaponry? >> reporter: we're not sure. we've actually asked that very question and not gotten a response back. but we would imagine that they are. the israelis have said they are launching a full seeming on the gaza strip after that massacre two weeks ago. and so they certainly don't want any sort of military support going into hamas as they prepare for a looming ground offensive.
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david: trey yingst, as always, please take care of yourself with. thank you so much for your reporting. meanwhile, president biden giving his first comments on those freed american hostages last night. peter doocy has more from the white house. peter. >> reporter: david, it's been kind of a confusing weekend so far here on the white house beat because publicly president biden and his team are very, very supportive of however it is that israel wants to hit back at hamas. but he appeared at least for a little while to confirm these reports that privately he is urging the israelis to slow down. >> reporter: how was your call with the americans? >> [inaudible] >> reporter: [inaudible] more hostages out? >> yes. >> reporter: but, no. the white house comms director now tells us the president was far away, he didn't hear the full question. the question sounded like, wouldn't you like to see more
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hostages released? he wasn't commenting on anything else. we have heard from the national security advisor jake sullivan the white house is able to get military assistance to israel through money that congress approved before they had no speaker and were effectively frozen. the u.s. is sending iron dome ammo and also humanitarian assistance. the president's guess yesterday of 24 hours til trucks rolling into gaza one up being spot on, but there may be problems ahead. >> the state department spokesman acknowledges that can go to a hamas, not to civilians. >> [inaudible] >> it's important to understand when you send money to gaza, hamass is not stealing it and diverting it, hamas is delivering it. hamas is effectively the government of gaza, and we're not going to grant billions of dollars in aid that's just going to be, in effect, resupply for terrorist groups. >> reporter: president biden's already spoken by phone to the two american hostages who have been released and will be coming
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hope at some point next week. we're not sure exactly how much he's got on the schedule today from the beach house in delaware. david. david: peter, thank you very much. as the war rage, president biden asking congress to approve more than $105 billion in additional aid for israel, ukraine and the border. will congress go for it? republican house homeland security committee chair mark green joins me now. congressman, good to see you. thanks for being here. i want to talk more about the speaker race, but just very briefly putting aside the question of whether you would go for the package, could you approve of a package without a speaker in the house? >> right now the way everyone is interpreting the current rules of the house and the legislation and the constitution that sort of governs this process, the answer is,ing no, we cannot. fortunately, there is the war powers act and many other powers that the president has that he has, i think it's 30 days where he can act. so it's not as stressing as some
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people want to, you know, make it, but it is pressing. we need to get this done. we need to get a speaker, and we need to get leading. david: now what do you think of the president jamming these three issues together in one package? you have aid to israel, aid to ukraine and, of course, the question of how you aid the situation at our open border. >> yeah, i think that's a bad, bad, bad idea. you can't equate our relationship with ukraine and our relationship with israel. israel has been an ally of the united states since i think 11 minutes after its founding. our connection is much keeper, our military participation and partnership over the years much deeper, and our enemy is the same. i mean, hamas has iran specifically, since '79, has been an enemy of the united states. so this is completely different. americans are threatened by
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hamas here at home because of our open southern border. so we need to support israel, we need to support this fight to destroy hamas. and you can't equate it to what's happening in ukraine. david: now, there is bipartisan support for israel right now, but there is a growing minority worldwide. it's not just in the united states. there's a propaganda effort, a pro-hamas propaganda effort. in fact, i think we have pictures from london. right now there's a demonstration in london of pro-a hamas supporters, of course, anti-israel. how do you perceive this growing worldwide propaganda battle? >> well, it's even in congress. this morning i think congresswoman ilhan omar actually said vengeance is not foreign policy. and i would submit to her and others who think this way, you know, defending -- crushing an enemy that has raped your children and killed your children so they never do that again is an a effective foreign
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policy. so, you know, this sort so the of anti-israel stuff is on steroids right now. but the truth of the matter is proportionality, if israel was to act proportional, they would find a music festival somewhere inside gaza and go in there and rape a bunch of children and kill the exact same number of children and people. but that's insane to even think, talk about, right? is so proportionality is out the window. it's time to destroy and kill every hamas leader. david: congressman, let's get to the speaker battle in the house because everything is kind of circulating around that right now. are republicans any closer to finding a candidate that all republicans in the caucus can agree on? >> yeah. so we have, i think, eight or nine people in this next round. they're out working the various constituencies and caucuses and groups inside to, you know, win their votes. we'll vote on that, and it's
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sort of you knock the lower person off and then vote again and knock that lower person off. so so it's sort of up to two and then whoever has the a majority goes forward. that will happen monday night will be the campaign forum where the candidates present, and then on tuesday morning will be the vote. you know, so we're basically back at a ground zero, starting over again. david: but the republicans realize how their disunity looks so dysfunctional. i mean, already congress was pretty low on the list of respected institutions -- [laughter] but right now, i mean, it just -- when the whole world seems to be falling apart, we need a speaker now in the house more than ever. i'm just wonder wondering if everybody in the republican caucus understands that. >> yeah, everyone really does understand that. the problem is finding one person that can unite the extremes. we, you know, we've got a ken centrist group that come out of new york, we've got, you know, down in the southeastern u.s. folks that are very
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conservative, and it's just been very difficult to find folks with such a small majority that further all that together. and hopefully in this group of eight there is one who can commune communicate that and put everyone on the same page. david: we have kevin hearn coming on, he's a nominee for that position. would you support him? do you think he's qualified to be speaker? >> i have a lot of faith in of the folks that are running. i've not made a decision. the only decision i made was not to get in myself. my wife and i both got a lot of calls both from our our state in tennessee and throughout the conference. i just didn't feel like it was what god wanted used to do right now, so that's the decision i've made. the person i pick, that decision hasn't been made yet. david: i think most americans after what they've seen for the past several weeks could understand your decision not to want that position right now. [laughter] congressman green, great to see you. thank you so much for being here, appreciate it. well, in the next hour as i mentioned, a fox exclusive with
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republican congressman kevin hearn. he is launching his bid for speaker as the house remains frozen. coming up, two u.s. hostages are, thankfully, free today but families, many more, await answers. the father of a missing american israeli is here. that's next. and united in the face of war, israel's opposition leader on coming together with prime minister benjamin netanyahu to take down hamas. the opposition leader is here. there are er... together. burger and fries... soup and salad. thank you! like your workplace benefits and retirement savings. with voya, considering all your financial choices together... can help you make smarter decisions. for a more confident financial future. hey, a tandem bicycle. you can't do that by yourself. voya. well planned.
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david: well, right now two the american hostages have been released, but the desperate search continues for 10 other u.s. citizen citizens and more than 200 israelis still believed to be cap -- cabtives in gaza including an american israeli who went missing in action when israel was first attacked by hamas two weeks ago today. his father or ruby joins me now.
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mr. chen, thank you so much for being here. where specifically was your son two weeks ago today? >> so if i can just maybe beforehand, i was listening very attenthetively to congressman green talking about the palestinian protest. if it's possible to provide a different perspective. you know, we live here in israel, you know, palestinians, i've got palestinian buddies. our conflict is not with the palestinian people. it's not also against islam. islam talks about not, you know, hitting women, not beheading, you know, heads of children and all the other barbarian things that they did. our fight is with hamas which is the equivalent of isis. and we need to deal with them exactly the same way that the u.s. dealt with isis a few years ago. david: that's an a excellent clarification, and we do appreciate that. if i can just get back to your own case and your son. where was he exactly, what have
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you been told, if anything, about his whereabouts now? >> yeah. so it's important to kind of lay the background. so he was positioned at a post where he was guarding the border. the sovereign border of the state of israel, protecting settlements like residential settlements. you know, kind of like minding his own business, so to say. he was not a attacker, he was not an aggressor going into some land and doing something against the international law. he was protecting the border. and the last thing we heard from him was two weeks ago, 6:30 in the morning that his base is under attack, missile attack, and that was the last we have heard from him. he was initially defined as missing many action, and today -- in action, and to the collectively with both the u.s.
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and israel, the finding is that he's a hostage in gaza. david: so he has been recognized by some means as being a current hostage. i'm just wondering if you are encouraged at all by the release of two hostages. there's still 210 is remaining at least, but at least there were 2 released. does that give you any encouragement? >> yeah. we like to thank president biden, secretary of state blinken and the administration for following up on their promise to free u.s. citizens. but as you stated correctly, there are over 200 os hostages still in custody with several u.s. citizens among them. and we urge not only the u.s., but also global leaders and not least pornly the u.s. congress to do whatever they can to release our loved ones as soon as possible. david: how is your family holding up? >> you know, it's like you wake up to a nightmare. it's like living hell.
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you know what happens when you stand still in hell? you burn. so the only alternative is to keep on walking. and that's what we're doing even though we have this black hole in our souls in order to do whatever we can in our power in order to get to our son home. you know, i hope -- where we spent many, many summers in the u.s. watching baseball games, like, you know, i took him to see fenway, big papi hit a home run. new york city, you know, i'm a new yorker. i have family out on long island, new jersey, and we went to see a knicks game. as an avid nix fan, he decided to be, of course, a lakers fan. you always don't get what you want with the youth. [laughter] david: no. >> we went to see a laker game, and he got to see kobe.
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so i hope, you know, that was experiences that he had that gives him to remember what it is to be a tough new yorker in that type of dna we have in the family. hopefully it will affect him and enable him to be if able to deal with this situation that he's in now. david: well, you have a lot of prayers. i hope you're aware, worldwide you have a lot of people praying for itay and your entire family right now, and we're going to continue to do so. by the way, i understand itay's younger brother had his bar mitzvah, so congratulations on that. i'm glad that at least a part of your life is able to continue as we a await word on itay. >> it was actually a big question we had, the bar mitzvah, the jewish situation when a young adult becomes a man, he goes to a synagogue and reads from the torah. like anybody else, i'm sure you as welsh when you have your intimate family events, whether
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it's a birthday or anniversary, you want to spend it with your intimate family. david: of course. >> that was our plan as well. and we so hard, you know, should we go on with the celebration orbit to. but i think -- or not. but i think the correct decision is in that irk tay -- ity's younger brother should have a happy recollection of this event no matter what. so we decided to go forward, and i think all of us benefited. said david good for you. ruby, we thank you so much for joining us, and our prayers are with you. best of luck to you. thank you very much. coming up, what went down behind closed doors when president biden and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu met earlier this week? we're going to be talking to a top netanyahu ad a visor who was actually there. >> and tempers flaring across the u.s. over the war in the middle east. why a this has one law professor telling firms to not hire some of my students. that professor is here.
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david: brand new airstrikes up north as civilians evacuate that area. greg palkot is at the israeli-lebanon border is joins us -- and joins us with the very latest. >> reporter: hi, dave. well, it is official, the iranian-backed hezbollah group is thousand in this fight. israel's defense minister made a visit today to the troops where we are right now and confirmed what we have been seeing and telling you about all this past week here, it is getting nasty. take a listen. >> translator: hezbollah has decided to participate in the fighting and is paying a praise for it. price for it. we must be vigilant and prepare for every possible scenario.
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great challenges await us. >> reporter: hezbollah and related groups have been shooting from the nearby border rockets, antitank missiles, mortars, they've been infiltrating using small arms fire. israel responding with tanks, antimissile defenses and armed drones. an idf spokesman telling us just in the past two weeks there have been over 40 fighters of militant groups killed, 6 israeli soldiers have also died. the latest soldier killed, israeli-american. he was raised in rockville, maryland. he was a reservist, came over here to fight, was called up and so the dead by a militant the up on the mountain behind us. david, it is quiet in the residential areas around us right now. it is the jewish sabbath, but the military has ordered this and other towns to be evacuated. the thinking is as the the major invasion by israel of gaza for hamas looms, this whole area could get more and more intense.
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back to you. david: indeed, it could. thank you very much, greg, i appreciate it. well, college campuses, meanwhile, erupting with anti-israel protests especially after that attack on a hospital in gaza despite u.s. intel saying israel was not behind it. my next guest is warning law firms, don't hire some of my law students in the wake of these israeli protests. he writes: if a student the endorses hatred, it isn't only a right, but your duty not to hire them. do you want your clients represented by someone who condones these monstrous crimes? uc-berkeley law professor steven davidoff solomon joins me now. professor, how many of your students or maybe put it in percentage terms, what percent of your students actually blame israel for the hamas massacre of october 7th? >> it's a small number, but they're extremely vocal, and they're extremely loud and
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repeatedly claim that hamas is a legitimate organization and that the murder of innocents, the rape of innocents and children, beheading babies is okay because this is all in the name of liberating palestine. david: where do they get their information in and i'm wondering who at berkeley has sort of guided them along with that viewpoint. >> oh, this is a longstanding problem at colleges which is we admit students thousand based upon -- now based upon their affinity to social justice and a certain type of social justice. and then they get there, and there are professors who teach them about settler colonialism and these, frankly, fictitious theories that dehumanize jews, dehumanize israelis and, frankly, these students have had no consequences for their actions. they're adults, but they're treated like children who are allowed to raid the candy whenever they want, and it's
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time to hold them to account. david: now, we had a stanford university instructor who actually separated, picked out jewish students, separated them from the rest of the class, told them to go in a corner to teach them what zionist colonialism e, their phrase, meant. now, he was suspendedded, but is that sort of thing happening at a berkeley? >> well, a few things. one, that not even professor, just instructor, was a ph.d. student at berkeley. and so where are you learning this, right? aye seen this on my campus for far too long. that is not going on at berkeley. for the most part, our professors are professionals. but they do and there are statements by professors that enforce this killing, this murder. i have no problem if you support palestinian rights. i have no problem if you criticize the israeli government commensurate with other
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countries. but if you're condoning murder or and rape and beheading babies, you should not be hired. it's time the adults stepped in. david: now, they are stepping in in some cases, at least from the donors' perspective and a are the hot of alumni. donors have been withdrawing funds or suggesting that they were about today so at other universities because of this. is the same thing happening at berkeley? >> i don't know. berkeley's a public university, so it's different. but i do know that dais polk, a prominent -- davis polk, a a prominent law firm, pulled three offers to law students at columbia and harvard for endorsing these statements glorifying a maas and this hurd. -- murder. i do know law students on the berkeley campus are concerned and worried and, frankly, they should be. the heads of the student senate at the law school came to, went to my dean and asked him to fire me because i had that made this statement, and i think that they
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should be worried. if you're enforcing hate, if you're -- endorsing a hate, if you're endorsing murder, you shouldn't be hireed and maybe you might not do that if you have consequences. david: professor solomon, it's amazing you have to actually say that. if you endorse murder, you shouldn't be hired. i mean, it's something that was assumed in the past. you can't assume it anymore. we appreciate you coming on today, sir. thank you very much. best of luck to you. >> thank you. david: president joe biden and israeli prime minister benjamin if netanyahu meeting this week. what went on behind closed doors? we're going to talk to one of the prime minister's key advisers who was there. he's here. and iran pushing for an oil embargo on israel over there. why it could mean a spike in gas prices right here. that's coming up. and by his likeness has he made him. genesis is a book of fundamental importance for the jewish and christian faiths,
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hostages as a kind of a bargaining chip to delay an israeli incursion into gaza? >> well, thank you for having me, david. in essence, all countries that genuinely are concerned about civilians and host abages should call for the -- hostages should call for the immediate and unconditional release of these hostages. the only reason that these hostages were released is because of pressure. the pressure that was put on hamas and that pressure is just going to increase until the mission is achieved. the mission is the dismantling of hamas, to dismantle this terrible terrorist organization that is just like isis. in fact, it's worse than isis not only because they behead people and burn babies, but also because they're backed by a state that is a terror state. they're proxies of iran, and they must be dismantled. israel will not stand for this
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terror entity the to be on our border. david: now, you mentioned iran, and finally president biden did in his address to our nation on thursday night, mentioned it not as thoroughly as many people suggested he should have. in your discussions and the discussions that the president had with the president of israel, did the president of the united states seem to accept the notion that iran is behind all this? >> we appreciate the support of president biden, we appreciate the support, the bipartisan support we are receiving not only morally, but material support from the united states, from our allies in america and our allies in the unite kingdom. we jai alai appreciate that -- united kingdom. and the -- we highly appreciate that. dismantle hamas, that is very, very clear. david: but again, the command and control of hamas some people said is to be found in tehran, not in gaza. do you agree e? >> well, clearly hamas and hezbollah are proxies of iran. that's not anything new.
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that's not, that is not news. everybody knows that. currently, the main mission or the only mission right now is to dismantle hamas. we're fully focused on dismantling hamas. we are well aware of the other fronts that might happen. we're prepared for that. as president biden reiterated, the world is watching. they are watching, and in other party should take -- no other party should take advantage of the is situation. they simply should not, don't take advantage of the situation. with we are fully prepared. david: do you have evidence that iran is falling the shot shots on micromanaging the situation specifically with regard to the hostages, for example, or indeed with the initial massacre on october 7th? >> well, clearly i can't get into details right now, operational details or anything of that matter. okay? but what is clear, what is clear is that the mission is to
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dismantle hamas, and that is what we're going to do. the fact that iran or that hezbollah and hamas are proxies of iran, that's a fact. that's a fact. we strongly suggest that to nobody else enters this theater of war, but we're fully prepared for that. we highly appreciate the support we've been receiving from the united states and from the united kingdom and from all our allies. all civilized countries are fully aware that hamas needs to be dismantled because we're at a war right now between civilized countries and these hamas savages. there's no, like, middle ground here. either you're with the civilized countries that want to dismantle hamas, or you're not. david: let's move beyond hamas to hezbollah because we just had our reporter up in the northern part of israel with the border with lebanon, and he's suggesting that the battle has already begun, that hezbollah is fully engaged. do you agree with that, or is it
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a little too on to say that? too soon to say that? >> hezbollah will make the greatest mistake of their existence if they become fully engaged with israel in this war. they will be hit like they were never hit before. and in lebanon, that houses and harbors hezbollah will be hit like never before. i think hezbollah knows this. they're fully e aware of this. and i strongly suggest they do not make that mistake. and i think they should listen very carefully to the words made by president biden, simply don't. david: is it too early to say though that they are fully engaged? because it sounds like they have not yet become so. finish. >> well, again, once they become fully engaged, the world will know it because they'll be struck by israel in a manner that they've never been struck before.
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i think hezbollah knows exactly what we're capable of, and we won't hold back. david okay. >> another round of violence, this isn't just another round of violence, this is a war that was waged against us on october 7th, okay, by these savages, by these hamas savages. it's not just another round of violence, this is a full-out war against hamas that, to dismantle hamas. i strongly suggest other parties stay out of this war arena, and those that won't will pay a heavy, heavy, heavy price. david: we have to run but, quickly, are civilians in gaza now the able to get through the border into egypt to avoid any kind of casualties there? >> well, again, we strongly suggest to let civilians and we demand civilians be let out of harm's way. all civilians should go down south and leave the war zones to go to safe, the safety zone areas or safer zones and to get out of harm's way. us israel seeks to minimize
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civilian casualties while hamas seeks to maximize them. we target terrorists and they target our civilians while hiding behind their civilians. they use their civilians as human shields. that mode of operation is not new. that is not new. the only question is, will that a be effective now. it cannot be effective. the civilians need to be let out of harm's way. anybody who can help take in these civilians into the safe zone should do that, should do that. we strongly suggest all civilians get out of harm's way while we dismantle hamas which is exactly what the idf is doing right now. david: ophir falk, thank you so much is. appreciate it. >> thank you, david. thank you very much. david: absolutely. now to israeli knesset opposition leader, thank you so much for joining us. right now is it fair to say that
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all of the strong an mossties between various or -- animosities between various sides of the political equation in israel have disappeared, and you're all united in this particular war? >> sure, david. you know what i did while waiting for this interview? david: tell me. >> i had a conversation with a 13-year-old girl from a kibbutz. she called and said i have to speak in the funeral of my best friend who was also 13, and i want to ask her do you think i should speak for three minutes or four minutes or five minutes and what should i say. and we had this conversation. and i'm thinking to myself, what kind of future are we promising to our children if a 13-year-old is calling me about obituary or the monologue she's supposed to give in her best friend's funeral in so this is what we are facing three -- these days. this is just tragedies piling on
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one another, the stories with the bodies are being expose slowly. so, yeah, it's -- so, yes, of course the israelis are now as united as ever. we're going to fight this together, and we're going to heal together which is as important. and we're going to come out of this stronger as a nation together. david: now, what do -- you're a former journalist, i should mention to our audience. your focus has been, your other profession is as a journalist focusing on these stories. what do you make of the world wide mass media and their inclination in many cases to side, to actually go so far as to side with hamas on questions about whether there really was a massacre two weeks ago and how bad that massacre was and disputing the fact that israel was not behind the explosion in the hospital many gaza? -- in gaza?
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what do you make of the propaganda that's going on worldwide in fair of hamas? -- in favor of hamas? >> you know, it's interesting, after this hospital tragedy i had a conversation with quite a few of the foreign press, the press corps around here, and i said, listen, here's what we know about hamas. we know they are butchering people. we know they're beheading young women and rape them. we know that there are burning babies. do you think it's beneath them to lie? of course not. they've been doing this, this is what they do. they are using the fact that the civil societies can't even comprehend their doings, and they're lying while doing so. so what is happening, the hospital is a terrible but a perfect example to how they operate because two minutes after this hospital was bombed, they already released a message
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that they checked and it's israel. and the bbc and others have quoted this like it was true. without topping for a second -- stopping for a second, thinking that maybe they should, you know, at least have some doubts about press releases by terror organizations from the islamic organizes like isis and like hamas. and then 25 minutes later everybody this in his right mind realized that the hospital was actually, it was a failed bombing by the us a lammic jihad, a failed rocket that fell into the hospital. and they said, yeah, yeah or, we are fixing now, we are changing our initial report. it's not the israel. but, you know, 25 minutes in modern time broadcasting is eternity. david: yeah. >> and by then the story's out there, and everybody, you know, do you know how difficult it is to change -- they've david right.
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>> -- the thoughts of people who already kind of made up their minds about what just happened. so this is the kind of lying and cheating that they're doing. what they're doing right now, for example, is making sure their people doesn't get out of harm's way so they can have a headline, i don't know, in the bbc it's telling the palestinians are being slaughtered by the israelis. no, they're not. they're being slaughtered by hamas. they're killing our people and blaming us, and then they're killing their own people and blaming us, and the world shouldn't buy into it, but go out there and check the facts. david: mr. lapid, with all of this going on and the fact that hamas is actually the willing to allow their people in gaza to suffer, to continue to suffer -- and there will be more suffering when the idf goes into gaza to try to root out hamas -- who should, how do you control, assuming that you're successful at rooting out hamas in gaza, how will gaza exist after that happens? that is, who will be in control
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of gaza if you're successful in can kicking hamas out? >> well, we should find, i assume the first will be the palestinian authority and some sort of a coalition of the more moderate arab countries who i understand and i congratulate them on this, they say that they are very worried about the destiny of the palestinians in gaza, so they're welcome to be part of any solution. we cannot have hamas in gaza. because our children will not be killed them. and as long as hamas is there, we understand that the killing will gone -- go on. the palestinian authority, to my mind, is the best solution, but it has to be strengthened by a smart coalition of the u.n., united states and the support system of the arab world. david: the head of the opposition in the knesset but right now there is no opposition in the israel, i think it's fair
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to say, and we do thank you for taking time to talk to us. thank you very much, sir. best of luck to you. >> thank you. thank you for having me, david. david: of course. well, trucks if filled with aid crossing the egyptian border into southern gaza today while troops in israel are preparing for a ground offensive into northern gaza. our reporter mike tobin is in southern us a reel with the very latest on this -- israel with the very latest on this. mike. >> reporter: let me show you a house that took a direct hit from one of the palestinian rockets. and one of the things i know about the family there is they're traditional, so they were having the traditional friday night shabbat dinner. but at the last minute, they changed locations, went to a different house. this house took a direct hit and no one was hit. this barrage of rockets or this strike came right about the time we were getting ready to go live, and watch a barrage of rockets, a flurry of rocket fire descend on this town of ashkelon. [background sounds]
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more rockets. [inaudible conversations] >> reporter: what we've got now is just a infrastructure arely of rocket fire, and we see more launches right now. that is9 from the gaza area. a big flurry of activity. that one looks like it's coming down. 1154 rockets have been fired at this town of ashkelon, 189 have made it through the iron dome intercept systems. as i take you for a quick tour, looks like a neighborhood you would see in miami or scottsdale with one exception, a lot of israeli neighborhoods will have a bomb shelter in the center of them, and this one is right there in the cul-de-sac. that is a family, most israelis is have a safe room, we saw that with a lot of the kibbutzes. that's a family that doesn't have a safe room, so they've moved into the woman shelter,
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and the neighborhood a-- bomb shelter, and the neighborhood accommodates them knowing in the event of more rocket fire, these people will accommodate them. in fact, they've told us we're all welcome inside of the shelter. that's part of the neighborhood pulling together in tough times, david. david: i have to ask you, that bombing attack that you were witness to, that we saw a clip of, was anybody injured as a result of that? >> reporter: no injuries, but a few, a few of the rockets as we saw here, a few of the rockets did, indeed, get through the iron dome system. but nobody got hurt. david: mike, please, please take care of yourself. i know you do, but our prayers are with you, my brother, thank you very much for being here and for the work you're doing. oil prices surging this week as a iran has called for an oil embargo against israel, and that is sparking worries of a potential financial shock all over the globe. joining me now to discuss if those fears are warranted is price futures group senior analyst and fox news contributor phil flynn. phil, great to see you. thank you for being here.
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fifty years ago, it's kind of ironic, it was almost exactly 50 years ago we had had the arab oil embargo. that really crippled our economy. few people are around to witness that or witnessed the original oil embargo 50 years ago. i was there. i saw the long lines. i remember it led to a great recession. would the same thing happen now if we had another oil embargo? >> you know, i think the world is better prepared to handle that type of a situation, but the answer, dave, sadly is, yes. and part of the reason is, is that we have allowed, you know, the united states to become more dependent on the arab world for our oil supplies whether it be opec, whether it be iran. and that was a major mistake if because, you know, we wouldn't be talking about an oil embargo if the u.s. energy industry was left to their own devices, you know, allowed to raise production. and even though they're talking about record production in the u.s., i asked the question what might have been. we could have been producing 3-4
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million barrels of oil a day more, and then this talk of an a arab oil embargo, an iranian oil embargo wouldn't matter. david: we should mention, iran is the one proposing this. iran wouldn't suffer from an oil embargo. they would still sell because most of their sales go to china. those sales would continue. the ones, the oil-exporting countries that would suffer from not having revenue from their oil sales would be saudi arabia, the arab emirates, our allies. does that mean that iran might not succeed in splitting the arab world as they're now trying to do with calls for an oil embargo? >> yeah e, that's right. i mean, listen, iran is doing this as a pre'emtive strike because they want -- preemptive strike because they want everybody to join in was they are fearful that their oil production is going to get shut off. for the first time in years, people are waking up in this country, and we have bipartisan pressure in congress to shut
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down iranian oil exports. they have been reaping billions of dollars because we've turned a blind eye from if really enforcing those sanctions the way they really should have been enforced. and not only has iran benefited, you should look at china. they've been able to buy record amounts of russian oil and iranian oil at a huge discount. so not only are you putting millions of dollars into the iranian coffers, you're doing the same thing to china. david: now, phil, meanwhile we have an oil reserve that was created originally just for such an occasion as this, but half of that oil reserve, i think 300 million barrels, was used up in the run ip to the 2022 midterm elections as the biden administration wanted to keep gas prices down. so they let all this oil out. do we have enough now to help us through another embargo? >> we don't, to be honest with with you. i mean, it definitely has been
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drawn down. you know, remember when you were a kid and you used to see the fire alarms and it says brake in ca case of an emergency -- break in case of an emergency only? well, we didn't do that. they broke it before the emergency happened, and now we have a problem. the strategic petroleum reserve was supposed to act as a buffer against a major disruption in supply. that buffer is gone, and so now we're going to have left to the devices of opec. david: phil flynn, thanks for coming in on a saturday, appreciate it. so with the israeli-hamas around a with -- hamas war raging on, congress is still on hold. now oklahoma republican kevin hearn says he's the one that can actually unite his party to become the new house speaker. will he make it, and why would he want this job? he's going to be coming up in our next hour.
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