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gillian: welcome back. secretary of state antony blinken is calling for the after a if that crossing between gaza and israel -- between gaza and egypt, excuse me, to remain open as humanitarian aid rickles in. i'm illinois january turner, great to be with you, griff. griff: here we go, i'm griff jenkins. president biden defining the u.s.' role in the israel-hamas role in a speech thursday night and canning for $105 worth of aid. we have fox team coverage with peter doocy at the white house, greg palkot in the israel-lebanon border and trey yingst in southern israel where we begin. what's the latest there? >> reporter: griff, good afternoon. just a few moments ago we saw more rockets fire from the gaza strip toward southern israel. it comes as the israelis continue their airstrikes all throughout gaza a trying to hit different hamas positions. i do want to show you as our cameraman was filming earlier,

the israelis striking gaza a right before our eyes. take a look. [background sounds] you can see the israelis there continuing to strike targets along the gaza strip, this time hitting a position just on the edge of the border. hamas and islamic jihad are continuing their rocket fire and mortar fire into southern israel, but with the roar of israeli fighter jets overhead, we do expect them to continue targeting different areas of the strip. this comes as we do have some updates for you. fox news has collusively obtained and reviewed an israeli interrogation video of a hamas militant that crossed into southern is his israel on october 7th and participated in the massacre of so many innocent civilians. some of what i'm about to describe ising extremely graphic, but this fighter telling the interrogator in the video, a man in his 20s in a

white cloth jump suit, talks about the coordination and planning that went into the attack, using telegram to communicate in realtime and send videos of the massacre to other hamas members in southern israel. additionally, he talks about how jeeps were used along with trucks to enter the southern part of this country of we've seen the pickup trucks left behind by these militants, and they entered these communities just slaughtering people. i do want to talk about what he explained to this interrogator regarding islam. he act moms the that in islam you are not to supposed to kill women, children and the elderly but says hamas individuals -- ordered individuals to do that, telling them to behead them and cut their feet. these graphic descriptions of what the militants did just give you some idea of the plans and the executions that took place in southern israel just two weeks ago. we did leave out some of the

details from this interrogation video that we learned about what took place here, what was done to people after they were killed because they are simply too graphic to describe on the. of but it gives you -- on tv. it gives you an idea why israel is preparing for a ground operation following that massacre of their people. griff: remarkable reporting, trey. it appears from this interrogation tape that our worst fears of the most inhumane, despicable acts of horror did transpire. has that impacted those troops on that gaza border wanting to go in? the idf troops, that is. >> reporter: absolutely. they are motivated to bring the fight back to hamas. they're learning more each and every day about what took place and what was done to the israeli people. and i do just for a moment want to give credit to my producer who has helped us to report out this story. some of the details are so graphic and what was done to the female population, the women of

southern israel. again, we can't describe them on tv. but the reporting requires delicacy, and it requires compassion, and we're able to bring that as a team here in southern israel as we talk to the civilians and they recount what they saw and what they experienced, those who survived. and as we review the information we receive. but the soldiers are motivate ised, like i said, to bring the fight to ma mamas. they understand -- hamas. they've seen the images, they went into these communities. we were in one today, and we walked into houses once again that were covered in blood. and we talked to these soldiers that went into battle, they ran into a fire fight with these hamas militants not knowing if they would survive. the brigade that responded to that one kibbutz lost eight of its soldiers in the response. is and it just gives you a sense the bravery these men and women have in southern israel. griff? griff: incredible insight you are bringing us. thank you, trey. and and the fearless reporting,

you and your cameraman please stay safe. gillian: tensions flaring along israel's border with lebanon as iran-backed hezbollah is exchanging fire with israel. greg palkot is at the border reporting for us this hour. hi, greg. >> reporter: hi, illinoisan. yeah, in the past several hours we've been witnessing exchanges of fire between the iranian-backed hezbollah group and israel which is where israel's defense minister was earlier told meeting with troops a i long the border. his message was pretty strong. he claims the iran-backed hezbollah has decided to get into the fight and that they, these are his words, will pay a heavy price. hezbollah and related groups have been shooting rockets, antitank missiles and mortars, israel responding with artillery, tanks, antimissile defenses. there have been 40 hezbollah and related fighters killed in the past two weeks, we are told 6 israeli soldiers including an

israeli-american raised in rockville, maryland. he came over here to fight. he was a reservist, he was caught right up and shot dead by a militant on a mountain near us. the army ordering 20,000 people from from the the border ton of kiryat shmona, there have been casualties and damage there. they're being sheltered in a coastal city in lebanon. still, as another israeli military source told us today, hezbollah so far has been holding back its full and mighty force and, frankly, so has israel. but everyone agrees it won't take much to turn this front into yet another major war. back to you. gillian: greg palkot on the ground this hour, thank you very much. griff? griff: president biden speaking on the phone yesterday with two americans released by hamas this week promising full support of the u.s. government in their recovery.

peter doocy is live at the white house with more, and the commitment to rescue americans in gaza. hey, peter. >> reporter: and, griff, we've got our first look and listen inside to value office as president biden was phoning those american hostages just a few hours after they were released from hamas captivity in gaza. >> thank you so very, very much. >> hey, m -- nat, how are you? god love you. >> [inaudible] >> well, i -- look, that's been long serving. i'm just glad to get you out. we've been working on it a long time. we're going to get them all out, god willing, i just want -- >> reporter: other than that, it's been kind of a confusing weekend here on the biden beat because publicly he and the team are very supportive of israel hitting back at hamas, but he appeared to confirm reports that privately he wants the israelis to slow down. >> reporter: how was your call with the freed americans? >> [inaudible]

>> should israel delay the ground invasion -- [inaudible] to get more hostages out? >> yes. >> reporter: but, no. the white house comms director tells us the president was far away, he didn't hear the full question. the question sounded like would you like to see more hostages released, he wasn't commenting on anything else. just before that, president biden gave credence to theories that hamas attacked israel. president biden said at a fundraiser last night, i think one of the reasons why they acted like they did and why folkses moved -- hamas moved on israel as they have, is they knew i was about to sit down with the saudis who are not -- i wouldn't call them the greatest democracy in the world. we don't know exactly how much president biden has on his plate today from his residence in rehoboth beach, delaware. griff? griff: peter doocy live on the north lawn, thank you. gillian? gillian: thank you, griff. for more on the ground in tel aviv, we're going by israeli

prime minister benjamin netanyahu's spokesperson with us this afternoon. we appreciate it. i want to ask you to comment on the latest numbers that we have been given coming out of your side in this conflict. we're looking at 1400 plus israelis killed so far, 5,000 plus israelis wounded and 210 israeli hostages remain in hamas custody as of this hour. are those the numbers, the latest numbers that you can confirm, and what can you tell us about these people? >> indeed. those are the numbers. i can add to that that between 100 and 200 israelis are still unaccounted for. we are 14 -- rather, 15 days now after that terrible october 7th massacre that's forced us into a war against hamas because we have decided at a nation that we can no longer live with this existential, genocidal threat next to us.

and still so many people are unaccounted for. that means they are either dead and their bodies are inside the gaza strip, maybe these people were abducted by hamas alongside with other 210 israelis, or there is a chance that they are dead is and their bodies are here in israel but are beyond recognition. we are still trying to identify some of the victims because as your reporter just reported in very detailed description, they committed such terrible atrocities that it just -- very, very difficult to identify the victims. they turned people into ashes, children and baby, elderly included. that's what they did. gillian: tal, if you look at the big picture in the region, we've seen anti-israeli protests turn very violent at capitols across the middle east, hezbollah stepping up launches across the border on behalf of iran.

do you think there is a chance that we may yet see american boots on the ground inside israel or gaza? is that something that the israeli military would like to see? >> well, first, we are grateful for any kind of support and all the support that we have been receiving from the united states, from president biden and the american people. we're seeing sweeping bipartisan support in the u.s. congress, and it's moral support and material support. president biden said and we are very thankful to that that israel will get the tools to do what has to be done with hamas because we said that declared goal of the operation right now in gaza gaza is to dismantle hamas. obviously, we hope that doesn't develop into an all-out war including with hezbollah backed by iran on the northern front. and is we have warned and president biden as well warned our enemies, our adversaries across the region not to test us. he said it in one word, he said don't.

but if israel is needed to act on more than one front, we will, of course, do it because, you know what? we have done this before in two other wars, in 1967 and 1973, and we won. because we know what it takes to survive in this neighborhood. the jewish people, we've been around in our ancestral homeland for over 3,000 years, and we have developed very good instincts right now. and right now we're saying that in order to survive, hamas can be no longer. gillian: earlier this morning u.s. eastern time, tal, 20 international trucks of humanitarian aid were allowed to somewhere the the gaza strip. is this a move the prime minister's office is supportive of? >> well, first, let me say that the most urgent humanitarian issue inside the gaza strip right now is the condition of 210 israelis being held in captivity there. but what person towns to humanitarian -- pertains to the humanitarian aid addressed to

the palestinians, yes, 20 trucks went in from egypt into the gaza strip. we said we reached certain agreements with our american counterparts that we will not prevent the transfer of essential aid including food, water and medical supplies to these areas in the southern gaza strip where we called on the population to evacuate to because the heavy fighting is taking place in the north of the strip. and we said that as long as this aid will reach the palestinian people, that we don't want them to get caught in the crossfire, we don't want them to suffer as hamas does, by the way, we will make sure that they will get this humanitarian aid. but this aid can cannot end up in the hands of hamas. has our condition. that is our condition. gillian: tal heinrich, thank you for taking time with us today, we really appreciate it. >> thank you. gillian: well, a 28-year-old new york woman is now safely back in the u.s. after surviving the

music festival that came under hamas terror the attack. hamas killed more than 250 people who were at that festival. matt finn joins us with the details of one woman's story. hi, matt. >> reporter: hi, gillian. we spoke with natalie, she's an american citizen with an israeli-born mother, and they make a trip to israel just about every year. and two weeks ago today natalie was at that music festival that was invaded by hamas terrorists. hundreds of people killed, many others taken hostage. natalie tells us at first she tried to escape by car but eventually ran for her life on foot, and now she says her shock and anguish is compounded by video showing hamas terrorists randomly shooting into bathrooms that she used just before fleeing. >> i saw the video surface for the first time of the terrorists coming to those exact bathrooms and just shooting at all the stalls tying to kill anybody who

was -- trying to kill anybody who was inside. and for me, i think that was one of the moments that made everything the most real to me of how much my life was in danger. and that if i was in those bathrooms just a little bit later, i would have been shot. >> reporter: natalie says she ran for four hours and eventually found safety at a nearby town where she met e a good samaritan that let her hide in the trunk of a car to get to the border and out of israel. and now that she's back in the united states, she wants to spread her story and let people know that she was among the hundreds of innocent people at this music festival that was aimed at promoting peace when it was invaded by hamas terrorists. gillian. gillian: matt friendship, thank you for that -- matt finn, thank you for that. griff friday florida congressman cory mills organized the evacuations of 32 americans out of israel. joining us now are two of those

americans who safely returned, pastor todd cox and silver grout. passes to have, where were you, and when was your reaction when congressman mills was able to get you and silver out? >> well, thank you, griff. it was an amazing rescue story. i believe god used a friend of mine, michelle smith out of texas, to contact representative cory mills. and coming in and rescuing us as we had been there about seven days. we were in nazareth, he flew in to jordan. he came across the border, met us in nazareth at our hotel at our tour bus, and he rode with us all the way across the jordan border, took care of us in jordan, and he's a true american hero. we're just thankful to the lord for him. griff: silver, i want to go right to a part of this story that really struck me, and, that

is the a day after these horrific attacks before you were rescued by congressman mills, you chose to be baptized in a river. why did you make that choice, and what was going through your mind? here's a pick orture of you being baptized -- picture. and this comes after you're already aware that this horrific attack has happened in israel. >> that's right, griff. and, you know, i'm reminded of one of the conversations that i had on the ground with an israeli after, in the aftermath of this horrific attack, and they told us, you know, hamas would love nothing more for us to cower down in fear and stop living our lives. but if we can, uni, move forward give in to that fear, that's when they lose this war. that moment for me, i'm reminded by second timothy 1:7 that god doesn't give us a spirit of

fear. and for me, that was refusing to get into the fear and telling the enemy you're to not going to win this, and i'm going to publicly declare my faith in the middle of a war zone. griff: so let me follow up on that. how concerned were you for your own safety and those around you in the wake of the news of hearing about the attack? >> you know, obviously a lot of reporting, a lot of uncertainty. i was concerned but, ultimately, i did have this peace that i knew i would be okay, i knew other americans would make it out. so i knew that i could do, go to the jordan river and get baptized safely. however or, in the back of my mind i wanted to, you know, be on the first flight home. but ultimately, i don't think i've ever experienced such peace in my life that i had in that moment of getting lap baptized, even in the aftermath of those attacks. griff: and, pastor, you've had some time to reflect upon this. what are your thoughts? >> well, i appreciate it, and it

was so great to meet silver. and she joined our team as representative mills brought her along, and we were the first people he got out. i, as well, the day prior to the attacks, we were able to get baptized, helped baptize 16 people in the jordan river as a well. and day prior to that was able to renew my wedding vows. we were able to see so much, but i echo what silver said, is god gave us the peace that surpasses all understanding as he always says he will. and he says over 365 times in his word, do not be afraid, do not be anxious, i will go before you, i will be with you. and we truly felt his presence. and i'm so thankful for people like representative mills, michelle smith out of texas as well who saw our facebook post, connected us and just all the others and the thousands of people that have been praying. and is we want to continue to

pray for those that are still in israel,s that are still missing, that have been kidnapped and all those that are not part of this situation. and so i pray that many will join us in praying for them and for a peaceful resolution here. griff: well, pastor cox and silver, we are so glad you are home and applaud congressman mills for his efforts. he's, after all, a leader and that is what he did in this situation is. thank you for sharing your story. >> thank you for the opportunity. >> thanks, griff. gillian: all right. protests erupting here at home amid the escalating israel-gaza war. we'll take a look behind the scenes of some of those protests, coming up next. ♪ protests, coming up next. ♪

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jeff jeff pro-pal -- griff: new york demonstrate theres organize a rally to flood brooklyn for palestine today. c.b. cotton is live in brooklyn with more. hey, c.b., what are you seeing out there? >> reporter: yeah, a small crowd are starting to grow here in brach lin for the rally that begins in less thannen hour. you can see people wearing traditional scarveses, waving the flag of the palestinian authority, carrying signs

calling for a ceasefire. we've got some people of the jewish faith standing in support of this protest, this comes on the heels of9 another demonstration which shut down a city street. more than 100 people sat down in the middle of the road across from democratic senator kirstin gillibrand's office, blocking traffic. police warning them to move, but as chants continued, officers took nearly 150 people into custody. similar scenes at colleges and universities throughout the nation. students walking out of class at a harvard university this week saying they're standing up for gaza. this as an israeli-american professor is speaking out against his employer, columbia university, saying he'd never send his daughter to the ivy league school. >> this is the school that you want to send your children too? they were celebrating the rape of teenage girls at a music

festival in the name of resistance! >> reporter: now, in response to the professor's remarks, columbia university writing in part, there is no greater priority than the safety and well-being of our community. we will continue to offer support to and work with our students, faculty and staff to ensure everyone feels safe on our campus and in our community. meanwhile, big name donors at places like harvard and the university of pennsylvania are closing their checkbooks saying rampant anti-semitism is happening at these demonstrations across the country and again, griff, today as' protest happening here in brooklyn gets underway in are less than an hour. pro-palestinian supporters, also those of the jewish faith standing here too. back to you. griff: c.b. cotton live from brooklyn, thank you. gillian: for more on the impact that the israel-gaza war is having on politics right here at home, with us thousand is joe pinion, gop strategist as well

as al rotter. thanks for being with us today. al, i'll start with you. one of the more extraordinary things politically that we're seeing here at home a result from the overseas war is among democrats accusing one another of being anti-semitic over the course of this week. i'm referring to the ongoing spat between debbie wasserman schultz, democratic member of congress, and a shield da tlaib who she accused on twitter of being an anti-semite this week. >> yeah. i mean, i kind of agree with congresswoman waltzerman schultz. wasserman schultz. israel is our strongest ally. they are a democracy living alongside people whose pledge is to e will eliminate and destroy them. america must stand with israel in this moment even though a war may be tragic and unfortunately. unfortunately, it is also necessary. and so i side with those

democrats like president biden who made it clear and probably his best speech of his presidency that america stands with israel. gillian: joe, what do you make of where we are in this right now? did you like the president's speech, did you not, and huh how do you think how do you think any president, democrat or republican, could possibly hope to project power abroad when our own house of cards, thanks to republican in-fighting over the speaker, is completely in disarray? >> well, look, i think if you're referring to the ability to project strength, this entire administration has been about the projection of weakness, about america leading from behind. and it would also be disingenuous to lay all of this at the feet of president biden, because this has been decades of americans, particularly on the left, looking the other way to the rising tide of anti-semitism that has been coarsing new our politic, that began on our

college campuses, that has led to us e effectively having a hamas caucus in the halls of d.c. and and i say that with no glee, i say that with a deep sense of sorrow. when we look at the fact that there are people in the aftermath of 9/11 who are able to recognize that our fight was not with islam, our fight was not with the muslim world, our fight was with the terrorists, and yet now you have those same individuals from those same communities in many way ways a acting as if hamas is the righteous arm of palestinian grievance. it is a disaster of monumental proportions. it is monstrous here in america. and the fact that we can't have people with the clarity of vision, the moral clarity to say that irrespective of their politics should stun us all. gillian: he makes a fair point, al. >> look, i'm not going to disagree with much of what he said. when you have students protesting and standing, quote, with gaza, obviously we all care about the innocent citizens who live in the gaza strip, but that

doesn't mean that israel doesn't have a right to try to take out hamas which has visited the most horrific destruction on their country, our greatest ally. with respect to the house of cards, gillian, i do think it's important to note that we are the world's leading democracy, and if the house republicans can't project governance and run their own chamber, that's a problem right now when there's going to need to be a massive aid package going to israel and perhaps ukraine. and if they can't elect a speaker, then they need to get out of the way. gillian: joe, last word to you on the complete paralysis among your colleague, the inability to serve the most basic function which is to elect a leader, what do you say? is. >> look, i think most americans are embarrassed. i think at this juncture, clearly republicans have to circle the wagons and find one person that the caucus can agree on if we are going to be the party that says we are the party that can govern, that we are the party that can be trusted to stand with israel, that a we are the party that is going to be

committed to making sure we can do the investigations and provide the oversight that led to republicans having that majority however slim it may be. so, yes, republicans need to get their to verb y'all tookus -- proverbial tookus in gear. because of the mismanagement of our economy, because of the fact that we're witnessing the own -- end of pax americana on joe biden's watch is effectively being thwarted by republicans not getting one person to swing the gavel. gillian: thanks for taking time for us today. great chatting with you. griff: coming up, a live update from the ground in israel. that's next. ♪ ♪ workplace benefits... and retirement savings. with voya, considering all your financial choices together... can help you be better prepared for unexpected events. for a brighter financial future.

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the. >> reporter: and, griff, the rockets continue to fly, about 36 minutes ago we got some new rocket fire here in ashkelon just north of the gaza strip. a big development today is that aid trucks got into the gaza strip. they crossed from egypt through the rafah crossing, but only 20 trucks got through. if you compare that to traffic on a normal day a, about 450 trucks usually cross new. so the aid is just a drop in the bucket. israel has made sure that only food and water are supposed to get through, and that aid is not to go north of the line about halfway up the gaza strip from which people are supposed to evacuate to the south for their own safety. and that's the situation as far as aid goes. meantime, the airstrikes continue to to go into the gaza a strip. about 700,000 people have heeded the warning and evacuated south of wadid, gaza. if you look at it on the map, it is just about a halfway, and it's not much of a valley, it's

really a dent in the landscape. but that is for their own protection. and and meantime, two americans have gotten out of the gaza strip. this is a mother and daughter duo, natalie and judith are ranaan. they are now free of their a hamas ap captivity, taken last night to an israeli air base and reunited with family. they have maintained a low profile since that time. more than 1100 rockets have flown at ashkelon where i am right now.. i'm dome got -- iron dome got most of them, about 189 got through. some of them struck last night. griff: mike, have you noticed mig about these rockets? it seems like every time we are talking to the you, they seem to be firing something. is there a pattern? >> reporter: it's pretty interesting at least the last two nights, we saw them fire just after 8:00 local time, tonight they fired just before

8:00 local time. there are random patterns up and down the gaza strip the, last night they were firing mortar rounds at sderot, so they do keep it random. but it was interesting to note the rocket fire coming just about the same time last night and tonight because that would make them vulnerable to the israeli counterstrikes. griff? griff: very fascinating. mike tobin, thanks. gillian: the pentagon just deployed another warship to the middle east in a show of military support for the sixer -- idf. we've got details on that military planning coming up next. ♪ ♪ it immediately feels like somebody's poking directly on the nerve. i recommend sensodyne. sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. and my patients say you know doc, it really works. i just always thought, “dog food is dog food” i didn't really piece together that dogs eat food.

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♪ gillian: welcome back. the pentagon is now moving another warship closer to israel. the uss mount whitney departed italy wednesday to join other vessels already designated to

provide support to israel in the mediterranean. david spunt joins us from the pentagon with the details. >> reporter: hi, gillian. a group of naval vessels continue to move closer to israel should anything escalate with either lebanese-based hezbollah perhaps or even the iranian proxies like the houthi militia. the uss carney shot down 15 is drones and 4 cruise missiles using sm2 surface to air missiles, the first time they've been used in combat since 2016, gillian. since the hospital strike in gaza, u.s. intelligence services have been combing through vid intro, i audio and other sources, and as president biden confirmed via the u.s. department of defense, the rocket originated in palestine. now, officials here at the pentagon are also following two rockets that were fired at the u.s. and coalition forces in iraq. one hit an empty storage facility, the other was intercepted in bag baghdad. the good news, no casualties.

three separate drone attacks in syria and iraq, two the targeting garrisons in syria. one resulted in minor secure ises to u.s. forces. in western iraq u.s. forces shot 2 drones, destroying one and damaging the other. that resulted in minor injuries. tragically, though, one american contractor died of a cardiac episode while seeking shelter from the attacks. now, important to remember for everyone watching the u.s. still has 2500 troops in iraq, about 900 in syria, reminding us that the u.s. is still active in those regions, though the focus now is on israel and gaza. speaking about these attacks in iraq and syria, the u.s. department of defense meaning pentagon officials don't necessarily believe this has anything to do directly with what we're seeing in israel and hamas. these are separate issues a although notable, and the pentagon remains ready to take a different posture if need be. gillian?

gillian: dade spunt at the pentagon, thanks. griff: jill yarning thanks. the u.s. and allies urging -- the u.s. to set up objective -- israel to set up objectives. joining us now, retired army general vincent sent bowles. we first met 20 years ago on an air base in iraq. now as the veteran that you are having served in desert storm, operation iraqi freedom, you look at the fight that the idf is going to take into gaza, what are your observations? >> it's going to be a different fight for them. it's going to a be a 360-degree fight, drones and aircraft above them, on the ground engaging in fighting hamas that's engaged in front of them. it'll be a 25-50 # meter fight, you're fighting the guy right in front of you, and then it'll be the subterranean underground

fight. so they will be fighting in a 360 degrees area. the other thing that really changes is previous israeli operations in gaza were classified as they were mowing the lawn, going in, trying to police things, get things in the right area. this is the decapitation of hamas. this will be much more intense and severe. griff: and, general, when we obviously learn about the hostages, the 200 or so that are there, how much does that complicate the objectives of the idf going in? >> it depends on the intelligence the idf has. i'm sure that every intelligence platform the idf has now and some assets we have are targeted in there to identify and find the hostages. if they can. and if they know where the hostages are, they'll look at mitigating civilian casualties, but there will be instances where they don't know9 where the hostages are, they'll come upon them, come upon civilians, and hamas has used in the past civilians as human shields.

so that will be a tremendous difficulty. if they can find them, they'll avoid them and tray to regain them -- try to regain them, but if they didn't can't do that, it'll be a significant challenge. drink griff as we put those things together, that's such a great point, general, the complexity of hostages, the tunnels, i was with lieutenant colonel ollie north in 2016 in mosul when the iraqi special forces were trying to rid that city of isis. the u.s. military was advise and assist. if you compare those two and look at the challenge ahead before the idf, have we even seen any fighting like this before? >> mosul fight was a -- my folks it was a 9-month fight for the iraqi forces to take mosul back from isis. nine months. this is a much more contained fight. this is the most, one of the most densely populated areas in the world right now. 2 million people living in gaza

even though your previous reporter said some number of them migrated south, it's still one of the most densely populated areas in the world. this will be a long fight. it will be for the iraqi forces -- excuse me, the israeli forces, it will be psychologically draining. you will never, you will never be able to find an off switch and rest for a minute because the enemy is 360 degrees all around you. so it will be very intense. it will be a long fight. i think it's very important that israel having been bloodied and embarrassed on the 7th of october, two weeks ago, needs to have some early initial success and maintain the momentum of what they want to do. griff: and let me, lastly, ask you with, general, we're seeing signs up on the lebanon border, hezbollah looking that they are going to get more and more involved particularly once the idf goes into gaza. how much will that complicate things? >> well, fighting in two directions is a challenge. i think our naval vessels are there to provide some detenderness to hezbollah --

deterrence, to say that's not in your best interests to do, and it would not surprise me if we would assist with other operations assisting israel with hezbollah. griff: retire major general vincent bowl withs, thank you for your -- boles. thank you for your insight. >> thank you, sir. gillian: protests erupting here at home this weekend as a israel prepares ground operations for gaza. details on when we can expect the ground inveation coming up next. ♪ ♪ did you know it took our founders 116 days to debate and draft the u.s. constitution? turns out they didn't trust the printing of paper money, but they did trust gold and silver. article 1, section 10. gold and silver. good for the founders, good for me, good for you. rosland capital - is a trusted leader in helping people acquire precious metals.

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gillian: welcome back. you're looking how now live on the ground inside tel aviv. this is a pro-israeli, anti-palestinian protest that is erupting there. it's 8:53 p.m. eastern time israeli time. there appear to be hundreds, potentially thousands of protesters there, some of them with megaphones, posters. we're going to keep an eye on this protest for the remainder of the hour for you, we'll are bring you back live as the news warrants. in the meantime, anti-israeli protests are continuing to erupt across european and middle eastern capitals today. 9 kitty logan is in london on that story for us this

afternoon. hi, kitty. >> reporter: hi, gillian. yes, there were more pro-palestinian are protests around the world today including a very large one here in london and elsewhere in the country. we saw around 1000,000 people taking part in a march through central london waving palestinian flags and banners. they're calling for a ceasefire in gaza. police keeping a close eye on this protest, warning anyone who might show public support for hamas could be arrested. the group is part of a terrorist organization here in britain. the protesters ended up outside the prime minister's residence on downing street. the the march passed off peacefully, and it has now dispersed. similar pro-pal stop sign -yard line -- palestinian protests in berlin. again, they want more aid to reach people in gaza. and in sydney, australia,

thousands also turned out to support the palestinian cause. again, feelings running high here, police warning against any violent or hate speech. now, there were no reports of arrests here in the u.k. today, but authorities are warning about an extreme rise in anti-semitic incidents. authorities and police here certainly keeping a close eye on that issue as well, gillian. gillian: all right. kitty logan in london for us, thank you. griff, great to be with you this afternoon -- sorry, go ahead. griff: just in the time we have left, if we could go back to that protest in tel aviv. this live shot you're seeing just before 9 p.m. is significant, jill yarntion because these are pro-israel protesters, and on their signs many of the hostages, they want a deal to free the 200 plus hostages. and that is why people are turning out there as we see a lot of the pro-palestinian

protests, this one specifically geared towards freeing those hostages and getting them home. gillian, great to be with you this hour, as always. gillian: thanks for having me, griff. "fox news live" is going to continue with eric shawn and molly line. i'm gillian turner. griff: and i'm griff jenkins. thanks for watching.ki ♪tc ♪ unlike some others, it supports 7 brain health indicators, including mental alertness from one serving. to help keep me sharp. try new neuriva ultra. think bigger. hi, i'm stacey, and i've lost 60 pounds on golo. (guitar music) this belt i used to wear, way down at the first and second notch, it's the only thing i've kept from before losing weight and i'm keeping this because i'm never going back.

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