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>> kayleigh: two news conferences on the massacre in maine wrapping up last hour. law enforcement intensify the manhunt for 40-year-old robert card who they say murdered people and injured more. he should be considered armed and dangerous. he is firearm instructor trained by the military and recent history being treated for mental health. entire county on lockdown, dozens of schools closed and residents have been told to shelter in place. i'm kayleigh mcenany, this is "outnumbered." here with my co-host, emily compagno and harris faulkner, also joining us, fox news contributor, marie harf and marc thiessen, fox news contributor.

let's go to nate, who is live with more. nate. >> 17 hours in and robert card still out there. we did not get a lot of information specifically about where authorities think he is. we did get more information about the victims and number of people killed is actually lower than previously reported, still a tragic and senseless loss of life. you mentioned 18 people killed, 13 injured. we learned how it happened. just before 7:00, card is accuse of going to a local bowling alley and murdering seven people, 12 minutes later going to billiard bar and restaurant and murdering eight people there. three people taken to hospitals later died, bringing total number of people killed toena. right now he is wanted for murder, eight counts of murder, the reason is 10 of the victims have yet to be identified and you mentioned, he is considered

armed and dangerous. the scary thing in this community, nobody knows where he is. businesses right now are closed. mostly the only people out are members of the media and law enforcement. after what happened last night, everyone is on edge. but on top of that, card's background is concerning. he was or is petroleum supply specialist in the army and has a history of mental health concerns. talked about hearing voices in his head and talked about carrying out a shooting at national guard base in maine and was committed to a mental health facility for two weeks this summer. schools are closed. even portland schools are closed. there are reports possibly he crossed state lines and has gotten to massachusetts, that is

not confirmed. we are working to confirm new information right now. the car he had was found in lisbon, one of the three towns where there is shelter in place order right now. the governor said just moments ago, this is a horrible loss of life and the healing process is only beginning. the people of maine will go through the process together. back to you. >> kayleigh: no doubt. he grieve for maine this hour. thank you, nate. bring in chris swecker formerly with the fbi. chris, thank you for being here. most immediate question that comes to mind, last night they secured perimeter around that abandoned subaru by the boat lift. there is fear he has a scanner. what are the odds he's at that area or perhaps in a different state?

>> chris: he had a switch car there like a bank robber does, a switch car, and he's within hundreds of miles from the scene or he had something staged there or a plan where he was going to get in a boat or go off into the wilderness there, that rural woodsy area, which is very similar to what we saw with eric rudolph. it is pretty vast. if he has a camp somewhere, prepositioned, which he may have, it will take a long time to get him out of there. it will end badly, i think. if he's in there, they will find him, it will take a longer time. >> kayleigh: we hope not long. i know that community is in great fear and trepidation. talk about what we know about this individual. we do know that he is described as hearing voices. he spent two weeks in a mental

health facility over the summer. what occurred to me, secret service assessment in january, they studied mass attacks and here is what they found. they made clear that the vast majority of individuals who experience mental health issues do not commit acts of crime or violence. symptoms are contributing factors and not causal explanation. but of 180 attackers in the report, 58% experienced mental health systems. the texas tech shooter did. are warning signs missed? >> chris: absolutely, i say in mass shootings, there are signs. some more extreme than others. in this case, it was extreme, he was flashing red. >> kayleigh: wow.

>> chris: he looked for help. he had ideation of committing violence against his own national guard unit. he had restraining order, domestic violence incidents, i don't know another set of facts where someone was more flashing red. as conservative, i don't like gun control, bullet i do believe there is room for red-flag laws so sheriff's deputy or someone can go out and get an order and go to the house and take the guns. >> kayleigh: final question for you, in this case, blaring red signals as to mental health issues. he had threatened to shoot within the base he was stationed at. two-thirds of the 180 attackers studied, 66% engaged in prior threatening or concerning communication. again, does something need to change? does the law need to change? you communicate your intent, 66%

of the time in cases we look at. >> chris: we get civil restraining orders everyday. as an attorney, i do it quite a bit. it is showing evidence to magistrate or judge and they make a decision and issue order and law enforcement serves the order and in this case, if in a perfect world, they would be able to go in the house and take any guns that are present. you don't go to the door and say, can i have your gun. you go and serve the order and find the guns and take them. you might take further step to have the person institutionalized for a period of time. in some places, two weeks, some places longer. >> kayleigh: chris swecker, thank you for your expertise. >> chris: thank you. >> kayleigh: harris, he targeted this bowling alley, it was kid's night, youth night. your thoughts? >> harris: youth bowling league

there. couple things, he mentioned flashing red, there is yellow flag law there. they do have some structure to how they can get and find out who among us should be people who have guns taken away, should get medical help. unfortunately, what paul morrow, nypd was telling me, this guy likely checked himself in for two weeks. two weeks is a long time, they must have seen something. like baker law, red-flag type laws which would institutionalize you for a period of time, 72 times. two weeks are a long time. if he did that, it would be on the responsibility and onus of people, doctors, nurses, people in the medical facility to contact police. without doing that in the state of maine, they can't just take away his guns. it is law enforcement, police

and prosecutors. red-flag laws allow you to do that, yellow doesn't. i loved what paul said. they will investigate and do all of that, but the killer did this. yeah. so can they fortify maybe some links along the chain to figure out what was a loophole and what person didn't check that. they can and should. the person who did this was and is a killer and where he is now is critically important. it is not just the car he dumped. it is two boats he can get his hands on and we know he was going down the androscoggin, following that river from town to town, that is how you get there. he could have been on the water. you talk about neighboring state, a lot of places he could be. he can evade and hide, there are nothing experts are telling me or have to indicate that he wanted suicide by cop this late in the game.

he may have initially wanted that, but he did tell people around him, he was hearing voices and wanted to attack the military base. all that is true, what he's doing now is evasive and he's built for that, and can do that. >> kayleigh: marc thiessen, we see it every single time. i was reading article by miguel farria, the sandy hook shooter was in need of mental health evaluation. the gabby gaffordshooter, the aurora shooter, virginia tech, every single time. >> marc: great point you made in the interview. in a lot of cases, these were civilians, you had like a parent that didn't notice or want to believe their child was mentally ill. not professionals, just people living their daily life, caring for people and missing the sign.

here, this guy is member of military, firearm instructor, telling people he wanted to shoot a military base. these are government officials that missed this. we don't know the details, there is a lot to learn. there is different standard for disarming military firearm instructor who said he wants to shoot up military base than for a kid who might be acting out and you don't know he is serious about it. >> harris: we don't know that. >> kayleigh: emily, speaking from a legal perspective, in the virginia tech case, two female school mates this guy sent threatening messages to, he was deemed imminent danger to himself and others. court of law involved and nothing happened. it seems like institutional failure. >> emily: which seems to be totally prevalent here in the united states. gavin debecker has outlined and identified what are predictors

for violence and the violence that include lack of boundaries and stalkings or these types of shooting. it is predictable and doesn't mean if you have those things this will happen. if it happens, that person had all those things and the fact so many people knew about those red flags, i use that not legally, is so sad, it means this was preventable and i want to underscore the fact being a member of army reserves and any type of veteran community and consistently being let down by amount of resources and type of resources. i'm not a man of bloated legislation, the point and issue remains the men and women in service during and after are woefully being failed by everyone in congress and in leadership who is not identifying where and how they need the kind of help that is based on real data and real

listening and not just throwing money at a problem or shoving something into antiquated rubric. i hope the outcome is successful, apprehended with zero injury to law enforcement. calls to mind the cavalcante convicted murderer and thanks to federal and state resources and u.s. border patrol tactical unit and canine yoda, apprehended with zero injury to law enforcement. i pray it ends there and he is apprehended successfully. kale you don't often see mass shooters at large. >> marie: mark and i know maine, there are a lot of places to hide in maine, forest land and places where there are not a lot of people. given his background, hopefully

he is apprehended sooner rather than later. you mentioned so many of them, you see flags before something happens. remind people, that people with mental health who have firearms are most dangerous to themselves. talk about death by suicide or people that have no other place to turn, we can't forget that. whether people with red flags should have access to firearms for their own safety and safety of others, i'm glad we're having this conversation even though this is a horrible, horrible tragedy and horrible way to have it. >> kayleigh: important conversation and make clear as secret service did, half the nation some point will have mental health, no way do we want to stigmatize mental health. maine police are asking for help, if you have information about robert card, contact

authorities at number on the screen. >> harris: turn to middle east and tension with united states and iran rapidly getting hotter by the day. more than 20 americans have been injured by drone attacks on their military bases inside iraq and syria, they are targeting military personnel and we knew this was coming. they have the proxy assets to do it. iranian-backed groups have hit us at least 13 times in just the past week. iran already warned israel it would attack if they invaded gaza and now president biden is upping the ante, issuing a stark warning toward thing the islamic that americans will not tolerate attacks on troops overseases. >> president biden: my warning to the ayatollah, if they

continue to move against troops, we will respond and he should be prepared, nothing to do with israel. >> harris: the president has been hit for more words than action and what i am prayerful about, he is taking some great action they cooked up in the situation room with a bevy of pentagon officials and generals and just can't tell us. >> marc: i hope so, he's inching closer and closer to donald trump's policy, he drew a red line with iran. he said if you or one of your proxies kill a single american, we will take military action against iran. >> harris: our men and women have been hurt, at least two dozen. is it dotted? >> marc: 30 american dead in israel, people taken hostage and no consequences. when trump was president, he drew the red line, if you kill an american, we will strike at you and you will pay the price.

when they crossed that line, he killed soleimani and said i picked out 52 targets in honor of the targets you took in 1979, if you i will hit them hard and fast and they backed down. they backed down and peace broke out. he signed four abraham accords. when bullies back down when they face overwhelming force. the reason iran is not backing down, they think joe biden is more fearful of escalation than they are. he needs to draw a seer credible red line, reiterate the trump red line. if you touch a single hostage, hamas holding hostage, we hold you, ayatollah, responsible, you will pay the price, not hamas. >> harris: what i'm concerned about and i appreciate you so much taking us back through what we lived through as americans during the trump administration. he also holds the distinction in

the open era of being the only president that russia did not go to war with a neighbor under. kayleigh, what concerns me now, though, with this president, if the expectation is to take action, what would that be after all of the death and carnage that we have already seen? this red line, his former boss, obama, said red line with syria and that was an invisible red line that maybe only obama could see. >> kayleigh: cautionary tail and obama drew a red line, went unenforced and what did putin do? went in to assad, ukraine. i love that you ask is the red line perforated or dotted? vivid way to describe that. blinken laid out that red line before united nations and biden underscored it.

we have already had many service members injured from iran, where is the red line? it seems pretty weak at this moment. >> marc: trump enforced obama's red line twice. if you use chemical weapons, we will strike you. obama didn't and trump did it twice. >> they kept using them, red lines are interesting communication tactic, diplomatic and deterrence tactic . iran should be on notice, the conversation they are having with israelis how to prevent iran from encouraging hezbollah to undertake full-scale attack on israel on second front and not get more iranian proxies aggressive against israel while israel focuses on gaza inform intelligence, there are covert ways to hold iran accountable, some of us are familiar with

them, some have been reported publicly. i think iran is nervous -- >> harris: really? >> marie: i think they probably are, this feels like a different moment in the region. a lot of countries, including the abraham accord countries who are focused on iran, arab states. >> harris: of course they are. >> marie: they made clear if iran gets proxies to be aggressive, they will take steps, as well. it is tender box and our goal should be to tell iran we will hold them responsible but to not ignite further contact that puts israel at risk. >> harris: you are in favor of words over action. you know who decides if they make it wider? iran. hezbollah has 100,000 rockets. >> marie: every party gets a vote and i think words matter in conflict. >> harris: people on the ground don't get a vote. >> emily: i hear what you are

saying and i wish i felt more confidence in that. this president keeps saying don't, don't, be prepared, we have not seen deterrent consequence of that. i have not seen anything that gives me faith and confidence these warnings hold water. i'm pretty confident our enemies are laughing all the way to the attacks. when we meld behavior with words, this president nominated jack lew to be ambassador two years after assume commander-in-chief position. talk about who is iran apologist, that is who is in place to be ambassador between us and israel. pentagon reports 21 u.s. service members have been injured in attacks by iran proxies, 19 diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries, how much is too much?

how much is enough? austined we responded four times and now 13 times in syria and iraq in the last week and still just words from this president. i personally have no confidence, no faith in him as commander-in-chief, my fear and anxiety deepen with my loved ones being deployed under his watch and i can't imagine how other families feel. >> harris: you laid that out beautifully. marie, quick word from you, you made the opposite argument, are you okay with us sitting by? >> marie: i didn't say we should sit by. emily, what do you want him to do now? >> harris: fighting for our people. >> marie: what does that mean? >> harris: don't let it happen again. >> marie: we don't want to be in a hot conflict with iran. >> marc: iran is more -- >> emily: pentagon said no direct order from the supreme leader allegedly to the proxies. >> marie: what do you want the

u.s. to be doing? you think we should strike iran? >> marc: take out hezbollah, they fired up the base, trump did that before. >> marie: we are helping the israelis do that everyday. >> marc: no, we have not, they are firing with impunity at our bases. when america gets hit at and doesn't fire back, seen as weak. >> harris: final word? >> kayleigh: freeze 6 billion, all sorts of thing you can do, we are not doing anything. >> harris: can we spop them from selling all that oil and making all that money? move on. another big story over the last twour hours. the nation has a house speaker in the u.s. house of representatives. republicans coming together to elect louisiana congressman mike johnson. johnson got 220 republican votes. show of gop unity after 22

speaker less days and four failed votes and bevy of people who were nominated and koobt make it, volunteered and so on and so forth. despite all that, speaker johnson is promising to gets straight to work and he's doing that for the american people. >> we're going to dispense with ceremony and celebration that follow new speakership because we have no time for either one. the american people's business is too urgent in this moment. the hour is late, the crisis is great and america we hear you and we are reporting again, to our duty stations. >> harris: we're watching first steps and one thing is condemnation issued against hamas terrorists and what they have done to israeli citizens. >> marc: house is back in business and that's great. as former presidential speech writer, i'm sucker for a good speech. his speech was spectacular, i

had never heard mike johnson give a speech before, i was so impressed. what i was impressed by, first thing he did, not speak to republicans in the house or republican voters, he addressed democratic opposition, turned to hakeem jeffries and said i know your heart, you love america and are trying to do what is best and we will find common ground and will not sacrifice core principles, but will sack preference to get things done. this is what americans have been looking for and thought we had lost. the question comes, can he do it? will he be allowed to do it? kevin mccarthy was driven out because of compromise and he kept the government open. thank god, can you imagine in the middle east and a government shutdown? will he be allowed to do what he said in the speech? i hope he is. >> harris: emily. >> emily: being a raiders fan,

few times we win, i feel no joy, just relief, that is what i feel in this moment. nothing to celebrate about them doing their job. i hope they make up for the lost time that americans were subjected to, israelis subjected to and so much more in terms of messages they could have been sending and accomplishments they could have been undergoing. he better get to work. the way the main-stream media is framing who johnson is, i quote from politico and "washington post" and nbc news who call him a conspiracy theorist who fought to overturn result of the 2020 election. he is opposed to lgbtq rights and believes the fbi discriminates against conservatives and said 100 known terrorists have crossed into the u.s. from mexico and most saliently, here is how he is

described, courtesy of new york magazine, johnson combined total commitment to trump's authoritarian ambition with low key persona. do not look for any type of support coming from the left unfortunately. >> kayleigh: here is who mike johnson, phenomenal speech, he said i believe scripture is clear, god raised each 've you and sees worth in the other side and compromise as something worthy of achieving, never sacrifice principle. he has resolve, look at his legislative track record. politico playbook said nightmare for republicans just ended, nightmare for mike johnson just beginning. you are right. 21 days until government funding runs out. that aid got kevin mccarthy ousted. marjorie taylor greene said lent censor rashida tlaib, let's censor rashida tlaib for terrorist talks points, even democrats expressed openness to

this. >> marie: kayleigh is right, government shutdown is looming. >> harris: should they censor -- >> marie: rashida tlaib, sure. i don't agree with her on most things, i think congress has more business to do, i don't agree with rashida tlaib. he has a tough task ahead of him and not a tested politician like kevin mccarthy. he is more of a newcomer, there are electoral repercussion, emily, things on gay marriage and women's health in an election that will be close and decided by small group of voters and handful of states, democrats today think those are liabilities like jim jordan with a sport coat on, i think that is how democrats feel waking up. >> kaylee: not too bad, i like jim jordan. >> marie: democrats love that. >> harris: point of rashida tlaib, it is not just one thing he could get done in the beginning. we are in such a hot spot

politically around the world and with troops deployed. they are not on the ground, but deployed, so with all that going on to put out lies she knows have been proven wrong. the hospital in gaza didn't get hit. if you look at photos, you know it was the parking lot. just start there with the facts. she does not stick with that and people listen to her, not just her district, she is part of faction of people around the country and college campuses listening to drum beat of anti-israel, hate the jews, if you don't think that is a problem, i am confused why left is saying antisemitism, white supremacy is our greatest challenge. figure it out. when it is time to protect people, everybody folds on left? >> marie: i respondent a lot of my life studying antisemitism.

>> harris: call rashida tlaib. >> marie: also call people mentioning george soros and talking about jewish funders. excuse me, they were all -- a lot of antisemitism. marc, let me finish. i lived in charlottesville, they were chanting, jews will not replace us, a lot of people are from the far right. let's not be -- >> marc: when joe biden announced presidential campaign, first two words were charlottesville, virginia. he condemned that, he has not said a word with the antisemitism running rampant around this country. there are charlottesville happening every single day at harvard, stanford, top institutions, you have conspiracy theorists who are antisemites in congress. >> harris: last word.

>> emily: i wholeheartedly agree with you, worst thing to say is contained to xyz, it is tidal wave that has become acceptable, it is disgusting and unacceptable. >> harris: what a discussion, you find it here on "outnumbered," tune in tonight when new house speaker mike johnson sits down with sean hannity for exclusive interview 9 eastern. pop your corn, your night is made on fnc for the cool kids. coming up awaiting white house press briefing where white house advisor john kirby will likely take questions about president biden's warning to iran. don't! maybe he'll fill in the blank. tensions are escalating in the middle east, that is where it started, it got heated. key keep it hot on audio. the manhunt for the shooter in last night's mass shooting, the fbi put in a high number of

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>> emily: massive manhunt for robert card is underway in

maine. 18 people were killed in last night's shooting and 13 injured. dozens of fbi agents aiding and local and state officials in the ongoing search. more with the federal response to last night's massacre. david. >> authorities, federal and local, are under the assumption that robert card may have a police scanner is listening to movement to help him evade them. more fbi and atf continue to arrive at a scene that is growing. fbi swat team and atf swat teams on the scene backing up local authorities. lewiston police are the lead on the scene. >> we're asking public to stay vigilant and come forward with information that you might have that you feel is helpful to our investigators. my -- is that the fbi will carry out this investigative case with rigor.

we workday and night alongside our law enforcement partners to get answers to the questions this community deserves. >> emily, i reviewed law enforcement bulletin, internal one last night sent to officers in the state of maine describing more about robert card including the fact he was at a mental health facility receiving tweechl a few months ago. the memo reads he is certified firearm instructor with army reserve connections in saco, maine. he rchtedly -- reported heard voices. they will go through his social media, phone record, e-mails and potentially determine a motive and perhaps charge him with domestic terrorism or hate crime. this would be on federal level in addition to homicide charges

he's facing in maine. a very, very active investigation now. back to you. >> emily: they have to apprehend him. thank you, david, bring in attorney, inspector and founder of opes desk.org, paul morrow. talk about what david reported, possibility this person has access to scanners. how does law enforcement get around that in their communication as they search for him? >> i think that was apparent early last night that was on their mind. first press conference was perfunctory and you sensed the spokesperson was holding back and didn't want to give out too much. the idea is if you think he is watching or listening, you want to ratchet the situation down rather than spin up higher. they have ability to communicate with each other by other means and the thing is everybody has cell phones.

you have to assume they have worked out coms that are going to work for him that he wouldn't have the ability to listen to. that goes to an important point. one thing that is crucial now getting into what is now a second day of this thing, is the organization of the command post. state police have the ticket, as david said unless they develop something relative to terrorism, they will be the lead agency. one person at the top, looks to be colonel ross, running the show and various modules, they are called. you have operational folks out in the field doing a grid search, using assets. other people you are not hearing much about. intel people looking at his life, doing search warrants, looking at social media, his digital footprint. you need a legal module, thatten

moos probably some prosecutor up all night writing search warrants and subpoenas in the command post. you need somebody doing logistics, you will have to say, feed these people. we have agents and cops in the field. get them water and food and figure out where they will stay. set up a schedule. if you are sitting where the colonel is, tell people, i'm ordering you to go home you have to order them to go home and come back at 10:00 and do it in shifts. these things are going on, it becomes a machine and takes on its own momentum. that is force multiplier so you don't have people running in the woods bumping into each other. >> emily: final question. given he's reported u.s. army reservist and he clearly planned this attack to an organized and detailed degree, it makes one

assume this portion of it is equally planned and taken care of, meaning his being on the land. how does that play in? any training to live off the grid, to live in the woods, how does that play into law enforcement response right now and the fact he might have had a calculation as such and endangering potentially all agencies that are focused on identifying, locating and apprehending him? >> you are right, that is troubling vector in this entire thing. by now, with what they know about him, we got his name pretty quickly last night. you would think they would hone in on him and i think the picture starting to emerge is clearly somebody who doesn't want to be caught and almost toying with law enforcement here. we are hearing all kind of rumors about access to watercraft he might have and things like that. one thing undeniable beyond speculation, they are on his

terrain, where he grew up and lived. he knows where he is going and they don't. nothing you can do to surmount that. he in a lot of ways is calling the shots here. it is beginning to feel it might be planned. the fact the car left in lisbon, halfway to his house and dogs have not picked him up, you have to say to yourself, did he have a plan, have access to an escape route? everyday goes on as we saw in the daniel cavalcante thing you name checked, everyday that goes on, this thing gets harder and perimeter larger. hope it will finish. he is holed up in basement some place, you find him and get him alive, that is what you want. cavalcante thing went on for a long time despite best effort of law enforcement. you can only do what you can do and as everyday goes by, you have to widen the net.

>> emily: is worst nightmare for law enforcement not knowing or have him being in incendiary position, escaping over the canadian border or him barricading himself and taking human hostages and the like, what is law enforcement trying to avoid at all cost? >> they are both horrible, hostage situation is disaster. i would rather him be in the wind than know after the killing he's done than to think he might have somebody with him to use as bargaining chip, he is clearly capable of anything. you'd like, one term that all cops go back is isolate and contain. isolate by himself, that is what they are striving for. isolate and contain and maybe get into hostage negotiation. i know the feds do. that is ultimate situation, they know where he is and you can get him and get him alive.

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reports." >> emily: a group of students, parents and politicians are set to hold a press conference at cooper union college after a group of jewish students had to barricade themselves from a school library prosecute pro-palestinian protesters. watch. [banging sounds] >> emily: absolutely frightening footage, marc. no one should be in this position, let alone jewish students. >> marc: evokes image of people in safe rooms or in kibbutz or during the holocaust, don't barricade jews into a room. this reportedly happened at columbia and harvard, some

jewish students had to do this. there is a problem with antisemitism on left and right, but they are different. right wing is largely french phenomenon, you don't see harvard student holding rallies. left, is most prestigious universities and halls of congress and not doing what we need to contain it. harvard poll came out, 51% of those 18 to 24 said the attack in israel can be justified by palestinian grievances, 64% said hamas and israel have equal just causes. that is our young generation. we are failing, universities are failing to educate young people and failing in their responsibility to police this on campuses. you should not be teaching at a university if you think killing jews is okay. >> emily: harris, one student

described it like hiding like ann frank, during the holocaust. some were professors. the school was prevented from entering the library from private security. there are questions that need to be answered at this presser. >> harris: i wonder if the universities understand who the victims are? to prevent law enforcement from moving in, you are saying to parents who are paying for you to protect their children, educating them is second, keep them safe and alive while on campuses. what you are saying, you have chosen those who say anti-israel over those hiding and having been to the space on 75th anniversary of the finding of ann frank's diary, you should go, small room where they lived and hid out and were found and executed.

if you understand who the victims are to universities out there, you don't deserve another dime until you protect the real victims. when police and law enforcement show up to protect the victims, if you are in the way, you should be treated like a criminal. that is pretty big language, right? that is what you are acting like, standing between those who would save and those who need saving. you got to pick a lane. if you stand in the middle, i advocate, get out of the way or get run over. >> emily: willful obstruction is a felony and hate crime on top of that. whole point, need to be response that deters, unlike what our president does everyday that behavior and insidious antisemitism that is acceptable and codified by professors. >> kaylee: what are consequences and penalties? i asked about calling hamas

terrorists and putting that on a building. i have yet to see a single student punished. what is consequence for the cornell professor saying he was energized by the terrorist attack. he apologized, he had university professors stand up for him, how apauling. claudia tenney said he should resign. they only understand penalty. >> emily: people show who they are when they think nobody one is looking this happened when there was rightful backlash and question. karine jean-pierre, i misheard the question, everyone shows how you feel when there is not a camera on them. it is reprehensible. >> marc: if these were black students, it would be on every newscast and wouldn't be

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