leave the residence, we believe the search warrant was executed, probably processing the computers and the evidence. where does this thing now go? >> well, he's at -- they know where he's at. i mean, they don't know exactly, but they've got an area. again, like she said, they're not telling you exactly. they know an area where he could probably be. so they'll concentrate. i don't think you have to go to the white house to get permission for anything. what's he going to do? i think you just ask -- and i don't mean to be disrespectful. >> sean: call the base commander. >> gee see what we can do. >> yes, sir. >> sean: see what resources we can bring to bare on this guy, because this guy is a stone cold killer and he'll do it again. dog we have to run. >> yes. >> sean: great ideas. >> aloha brother. >> sean: thank you so much. >> thank you, sir. >> jesse: hannity's up next. >> sean: welcome to hannity. we are broadcasting live entry

the from the heart of the washington swamp on capitol hill where in mere moments we will be joined by the 56th speaker of the house of representatives mike johnson for his very first tv interview since becoming speaker. now the louisiana native now is third in line to be president. he has vowed to secure our southern border, decentralize our federal government, reform the weaponized and politicized doj and fbi and bring the republican caucus together with a thin majority and, predictably, this was not hard to predict, the left has launched a full-scale attack on the new speaker led, of course, by did dnc calling him a maga extremist and much more. and advising him not to get comfortable in his new position. now coming up, we're going to ask him how he plans to deal with his political adversaries, what are his top agenda items, how will he keep this caucus together? plus we'll check in on israel's looming ground invasion in gaza, a short incursion last night, the first of what we expect to

be a major ground war in the days and weeks ahead. but first we start with breaking news out of maine tonight where we are tracking a developing situation near the home of robert card. he's the suspected mass shooter responsible for at least 18 murders, 13 injured. here now with the very latest, she is on the ground in maine for us tonight, mollie line has the latest on this mollie, thanks for being with us. >> sean, thanks for having me tonight. as you mentioned the manhunt continues, there's a significant amount of activity in the suspect's home town of bowdoin. they've really foe kissed in on a group of properties on meadows road and in the last couple of hours we've seen choppers overhead on that road and a search warrant being executed there at that property. law enforcement on a mega phone yelling for quite some time calling for robert or anyone in that home to come on out, to come out peacefully. per maine state police those announcements heard over the loud speaker mega phone are

standard search warrant announcements when they're executing a search warrant for safety of everyone. it's unknown fen robert card is in any of the homes they're searching. law enforcement officials just doing their due diligence tracking down every lead and those properties are associated with this suspect so they're doing everything they can to find out what sort of clues they might be able to draw from that area. they also did use a series of flashing bangs earlier in the evening, once again another tactic, an intention to draw out the suspect if he is there. not necessarily any proof that he actually was. things unfolded yesterday just a little bit before 7:00, lewiston police responding to those two mass shooting incidents, one in a bowling alley, another at a bar and bill yard hall. by 10:25 in the evening, county officials called a county wide shelter in place order. even now authorities are still asking people to stay in their homes and lewiston police originally calling robert card a person of interest he is now

clearly a suspect in this homicide mass murder case. the coast guard, worth noting, also involved now. they were up in the sky now earlier today over boothbay harbor, that's notably because the subaru, the vehicle that is associated with this suspect, was found in a community called list bin, not so far from here, about a 10-minute drive from lewiston, and there's a river there, and this suspect is known to have some familiarity with boats and also with weapons as well. internal law enforcement communication revealing that this individual's a firearms instructor, a member of the army reserves, and that over the summer had been suffering an escalating mental health crisis essentially, ended up being committed for a series of weeks and getting treatment. so that speaks to potentially how dangerous this individual really may be. law enforcement officials are warning the public that he is armed and dangerous and right now they are still running down every lead. a lot of different agencies involved in this. sean. >> sean: all right, mollie line, thank you for that report. stay with us, we'll be back to

you throughout the hour tonight as news breaks and my exclusive interview with the house speaker, the new speaker, mike johnson, in just moments. first, let's get quick reaction to what is going on on the ground in maine with national law enforcement and counter terrorism analyst former israeli 0 aaron cohen is back and former dc police detective fox news contributor ted williams. aaron, let's get your take, very predictably people are already talking in the nation's capitol about new gun laws. maine does have some of the more lenient laws on the books for a state in the country, no background check on the purchaser, and they have -- they don't have their so-called yellow paper, red flag laws, they're under a lot of controversy tonight, conceal carry without a permit is limited to people who are 21 or older. however, when you look at the background, what do we see? somebody recently fired? somebody that clearly had some

mental issues. if, in fact, they have him surrounded tonight. should this be a gun debate at this time and what is your take on what law enforcement is doing right now and why have they not entered that home that they have surrounded since this afternoon. >> i don't think it's the time right now, sean, to turn inwards and start debating. i don't think this is political -- we don't want this to be politicized right now. we coronavirus those conversations down the road specifically when it comes to mental health. that is the big red flag. when someone has been committed and has had a breakdown that is something i would be looking at. i don't have a problem with guns you don't have a problem with guns as long as you're safe and trained with it. and given the state of the world right now it's not a bad thing to be able to defend yourself. moving to the situation right now with that house that's being surrounded, law enforcement's going to exercise every lead right now. this is an intelligence hunt they want to know where the suspect is, take you back to 2012, chris dorner went on a

rampage, started killing cops, ended up booting two, two and a half hours up to big bear, multiple swat teams were on him, took a long time to get that information. it will move quicker now, we have cell phones, we have the photo of the suspect out, he is obviously the main person of interest at this point. so intelligence number one, making sure we get every lead. number two, if, in fact he is in that structure right now now it's time to slow it down, and when i'm training swat teams this is what we call slow and deliberate. if there's no hostages inside we go slow we want to peel that can open nice and tender. but if he's barricaded, this would be a barricaded subject, if there are no hostages, let's tire him out, start communicating with him, get a phone in there and start getting some dialogue in there and see if we can get him out alive. we obviously want to take him out alive putting on my us law enforcement hat on here. we are not dealing with terrorism that we know, that we know, and you know sean i don't believe in coincidences that

things happen freakishly at a time when we're in a monster conflict in israel. but let's try and talk him out tire him down no hostages end it peacefully and put cuffs on him and make an arrest without anybody else getting killed. if there are hostages, it's a different situation, federal laws are violated, hostage rescue team would be on scene. but the good news is that a lot of these agencies, sean, they've gotten a lot better over the years. even these smaller agencies. i've been running around training them for close to 20 years. they've got the gear now, they have the weaponry, they have the tactics, their mindset's gotten better. everyone's in better shape now. the tone has changed. so we've just got to let these guys do what they're going to do and they're going to go in there and make entry if they have to, and if they do and there's no hostages it will be very slow, very deliberate, but i'm leaning towards they're going to try and get him to come out. >> sean: aaron good advice. ted williams, let's get your

take. i would assume law enforcement obviously would have night vision, something that would be able to aid and assist them. probably they would be able to sense where a human body would be through heat sensing of some kind. do you agree with aaron? anything else you want to add to that? >> well, i agree with what you've just said about heat sensing equipment that would tell you perhaps if he's in that house. now, the thing about it is, they're only going to wait for so long. normally they would do an activity of this nature during the daytime because the daytime is the most friendliest time for law enforcement and to law enforcement. so since they waited here at night, i think a swat team, i understand there's an armored vehicle on the scene there and there's a good possibility that they've already gone in. and one of the things that they would normally do with a swat team coming on the scene like

that, sean, would be to send the dogs in. and so i don't know if they've done that, but i just got word that there were law enforcement agencies leaving that home. and, so, if that is true and can be corroborated, it's more likely than not that they have eliminated that property. and that is what law enforcement officers are trying to do. they're going through what we would define as a process of elimination. >> sean: right. >> simply meaning they eliminate that house. what makes me to believe it's more likely than not that he's not in that house, is that after this carnage last night, law enforcement immediately was at those homes. so they had those homes under surveillance. and so it's a part, sean, of a process of elimination, but this guy could be anywhere.

we know that he ditched his car in leften maine we know he had jet skis, we know there are waterways, we know the cost guard is now looking down those waterways. he may not even be in the state of maine at this immediate time. >> sean: ted williams, we'll see. law enforcement still surrounding the house so there's still got to be some interest there. we'll have more this throughout the hour tonight. thank you both. we appreciate it. aaron and ted. >> now to the big news out of capitol hill where louisiana congressman mike johnson, he was just elected speaker of the house. now, notably, johnson is not a creature of the swamp, a son of a fireman from louisiana, he was first elected to congress in 2017 but quickly earned a reputation of someone who could communicate well and get things done without making enemies. pretty hard in this town unless you're friends with dogs and cats, that's about the only

friend you usually get in washington. as a prior member of the judiciary committee, that's jim jordan's committee, the armed services committee and a stint as the chairman of the republican study committee, johnson has been very busy. he has consistently supported lower taxes, law and order, and second amendment protections. and a secure border. he has also fought against biden's weaponization at our department of justice and the fbi and whether they've been politicized. also he is against the woke far left propaganda now indoctrinating our kids. as speaker his first measure was a resolution in support israel's right to self-defense after the hamas terrorist attacks and his first major bill will, in fact, be saying bye-bye to joe biden's green new deal radical socialism. johnson also has a plan to keep the government open while getting our spending in check without chaos, infighting or drama. that is the goal. no easy task, to say the least, especially when you have such a

slim majority. so how will they get it done? joining us now with more, america's brand new speaker of the house, his first interview, mr. speaker, good to see you, sir. >> thanks sean. welcome to capitol hill. >> sean: all right, two weeks ago, did you think -- have you gotten used to the word speaker yet? >> i haven't sean. i've been in the job about 48 hours now and it's kind of surreal to be honest. i want to say at the outset god be with the law enforcement officers handle the situation in maine our prayers have been with the situation the families, everyone in the house have been dmield on that all day, it's really something. so just to address that at the front end we would be remiss if we didn't mention it. >> sean: already though you're emersed in democrats and this happens with almost every shooting incident. the media call by the left in this country, we need more gun laws, we need more legislation. >> yeah. >> sean: what's your answer to that? >> the end of the day the problem is the human heart. it's not guns, it's not the weapons. at the end of the day we have to protect the right of the

citizens to protect themselves and that's the second amendment that's why our party is so strong with that. i agree with the comments of your guest, this is not the time to be talking about legislation we're in the middle of the crisis right now but i want you to know and the american people to know that all the members of the house here are deeply concerned with the families involved and everyone. we pray for the law enforcement officers doing that, hard job tonight that most people don't have the bravery to do. >> sean: you talk about the human heart, if somebody really wants to kill innocent people there's a lot of ways people can do it beyond using a gun. >> yeah. >> sean: i'm sure this will become a bigger issue throughout the days moving forward. is there any specific gun law that you would look at, or any new legislation you would look at? >> well, been in the job for 48 hours. we'll see. i mean there will be lots of discussion as there are after these heart-break tragedies but your point is well taken. you know, in europe and in other places, they use vehicles to mow down crowds in parades, they've

done that here in the united states. it's not the weapon it's the underlying provenlt i believe we have to address the root problems and mental health obviously as in this case is a big issue and we have to seriously address that as a society and as a government and there's lots of measures pending on that as well. >> sean: you have a very warm welcome from the dnc. they said you were an anti-abortion, maga extremist, mike johnson. that was their first words. >> oh, yeah, welcome to the job. >> sean: welcome to your new job. then they went on to say you were the co-sponsor to institute an extreme abortion ban, we'll get into detail, nationwide. you want to cut social security and medicare. and here's some free advice from mike johnson, and that is, don't get comfortable. we've been here before. this is the same exact maga extremism that the american people have already reject and they will do it again. i thought that was the warmest welcome you could ever want from the democratic party. >> how about that? yeah, welcome to the job. they don't know me a lot of

these people don't know me and i think if they would talk to some of my colleagues here even on the other side of the aisle that have worked with me for the seven years i've been on capitol hill they would tell you those things are not true. give me a chance. let me have a chance to lead here and you'll see what i'm really about. >> sean: let me ask you, because a lot of people don't know you, and before i get to some really heavy duty questions, issues of great national importance, what do you want people to know about you? there were things about you that i learned in the lead-up to this interview. i didn't know -- you didn't legally adopt a young 14-year old, but you basically adopted him. it would have taken four years to finalize it. and he happened to be african-american and he was your first son. and now you have four other children. and one of them, this son was named michael, your other 14 year old is jack. and you said some pretty deep profound things that you think is harder for your

african-american son than your biological son in life. are you saying that's institutional racism in the country? what are you referring to? >> no. it's a reality, thorax having raised two 14 year old boys in america and in the state of louisiana. they had different experiences. and i'm not so sure it was all about skin color but it is about culture and society. michael, the -- our first, came from a really troubled background and had a lot of challenges. jack, on the other hand, was raised in our household from the time he was born. and it struck me, sean, that it's a reality that there are different, there are different paths in life and people have lots of things they have to overcome. so it gives you a lot of empathy. it allows you to see into the heart of people and really try to understand them better. and that comes in handy in this arena. because we're really expected to hate our colleagues on the other side of the aisle and beat them

all the time as enemies, politically-speaking. but you have to recognize that this is a system that was built upon disagreement. i mean, what the founders intended here, in this legislative context, is we're going to come to the table with very different fill city of philadelphia i can core ideas and principles and we have to arm wrestle with that and reach consensus to move the ball forward for the american people. that's what it's built upon and right now people are going to their corners and refusing to talk. we have to get over that. >> sean: i don't know how we reconcile a lot of these issues. you either believe in climate alarmism or energy independence. how do you reconcile that? how do you reconcile key fund dismantle versus funding law enforcement? and no bail laws versus bail laws? how do you reconcile secure borders or sanctuary states and cities. very controversial issues. >> yes. >> sean: and i don't know where the middle ground is. do you see it? >> there is less and less middle ground over the decades, the parties have grown very far apart. there's a wide cam now.

if you rewound back 40 or 50 years there wasn't really a lot of difference between the republican and democratic parties if you compared the platforms, there were nuances about policy but they were trying to do what's right for the country. the allegation here about some of our colleagues is that's not really their agenda. some of them really would like to trade what we have for a european-style socialist form of government. we know that that is a terribly idea so we sand for our foundational ideas. what you have to do is get down to those principles and use the facts though them the reality. socialism is a dead end, communism and marxism are terrible things. it's been responsible for the deaths of tense of millions of innocent people over the 20th century alone. right? that is not the path we want to go down. america is different and we are exceptional because we stand on certain foundational principles. i said in my speech the other night -- was that last night? all my hours are running together now. >> sean: i think it was yesterday. >> i talked about the core

principles of american conservatism, individual freedom, limited government, rule of law, peace through strength free markets and human dignity and under each of those there would be subcategories but that's what we stand for. i call them the core principles of american conservatism but it's really the core principles of america itself. we're different. we're exceptional. the reason we're the freest most powerful successful nation in the world is because that's what we stand for and those values and those principles are under assault right now and we have to defend them every day with everything we have. >> sean: let me ask you. you had a bipartisan briefing with president biden, hakeem jeffries was there, other leaders were there. you got a phone call from president biden. tell us about it. how did it go? >> actually had a visit with the president at the white house today for about 15 minutes or -- 15 or 20 minutes. the other parties were running late so it was he and i sitting there together. it was a meet and greet. i had only met him once before. it was cordial and pleasant. i have no problem with president

biden as an individual, right? you respect the office. it's a biblical admonition that you give honor where honor is due and that's the respect we have in office. president but he and i agree on almost no policy so we didn't get into that too much but there will be time on that in the days ahead. >> sean: is there any one thing on policy that you can say he's done a really good job on this or that? >> i can't. i can't. i think it's been a failed presidency and all the problems, some of those you articulated already at the outset of the problem here were caused by policy choices. and that's the problem i have with him. it's philosophical. >> sean: look, i'm sure, if you've ever seen my show, and i don't know, i didn't ask you if you've ever watched it, the president, in my view, has been struggling cognitively. it's a significant decline that i see. i'm not sure if you saw the tape, the interview that he gave a gaggle on air force one when he was flying back from israel after, by the way, a lot of allied nations did not want to meet with him, leaders did not want to meet with him which i

found to be a pretty big snub. i don't know if you saw that tape. do you see, in joe biden, a cognitive decline and, if so, is that a danger to the country? >> i do. i think most of us do. that's reality. this is not a personal slight to him. it has to do with age and acumen and everyone's different, everyone ages differently. clearly if you look at a tape of joe biden making an argument in the senate judiciary committee a few years ago and you see a speech that he delivers now, there's a difference. again, it's not a personal insult to him. it's just reality. and this is what's concerning to us is that we cannot project weakness of any kind on the world stage right now. this is a dangerous time for all the things going on arnold the world, the world is a tinder box. a strong america is good for the whole world and we have to project strength. reagan used to remind us all the time, it's peace through strength. if america shows weakness it invites aggression by our adversaries and that's what you're seeing around the world

and that's an important thing to remember and also sean also remember, i've been watching your show since as long as i can retchings all 25 years? >> sean: people said i've been watching you since i was in first grade. >> i remember when your hair was dark than mine. >> sean: it was a lot darker. speaker i think you'll catch up quickly. >> it's already happening. sean: especially with the smaller majority. >> yeah. >> sean: already, the press, the left, have come at you and come at you hard. >> uh-huh. >> sean: specifically i'll give you two big issues, one on the issue, you once worked for the alliance defense fund a christian advocacy group and comments you made both in writing and advocacy for this group about homo sexuality calling it sinful destructive and not supporting gay marriage. quote, no clear right to sodomy in the constitution. you have been getting hammered on this. >> yeah. >> sean: and i want to ask you about it. i want to know exactly, you know, where you stand. some of these comments were 15

years ago. >> i don't even remember some of them. i was a litigator that was called upon to defend the state marriage amendments, if you remember back in the early 2000s, think there was over 35 states somewhere in that number, that the people went to the ballot in their respective states and they amended their state constitutions to say marriage is one man and one womanen i was a religious liberty defense and was called to do that in court. there's been questions about this, anybody that knows me knows this is true. i am a rule of law guy. i made a career defending the rule of law. i respect the rule of law. when the supreme court issued an opinion that became the law of the land. i respect the rule of the law but i also genuinely love all people regardless of their life style choice. this is not about the people themselves. i am a bible-believing christian. someone asked me today in the media, it's curious, people are curious, what does mike johnson think about any issue under the sun? i said, well, go pick up a bible off your shelf and read it. that's my world view. that's what i believe.

>> sean: that's your personal world view. >> my personal world view. here's the thirngs everybody comes to the house of representatives with deep personal convictions but all of our personal convictions are not going to become law. this is a big body of people. there's 435 members in the house. you have to argue and find consensus in all of that. so i have no agenda other than what's best for the american people and to defend the rule of law and that's what we're doing. >> sean: so then let me ask you on the issue of abortion where you've been very pro life. >> yeah. >> sean: obviously that comes from your issue of faith. you had argued against roe, bad law. >> yes. >> sean: dobbs happened. >> yes. >> sean: that issue now has been sent back to the states. on either one of these issues, gay marriage, abortion, in the next 14 months as you're going to be the speaker of the house, stooge motion to vacate never comes up which i think is awful shouldn't be there. >> i think we're going to change it. >> sean: or have a higher bar, 25 people instead of any one member.

but on those two issues where they've come at you so hard and you're explaining your personal view and you're kind of by by for kading it away from your political view, do you see any scenario where either issue would be an agenda item for you and the republicans in the next 14 months or any point down the line. >> first of all in the marriage issue no one has discussed that for as long as i can remember. this has been settled by the score in 2015. so that's the decision. now, they changed the definition of marriage that had been regarded by basically every human society for 5,000 years but when five justices on the supreme court changed it that became the law of the land. i'm a constitutional law attorney, i respect that and we move forward. the abortion issue is different. the table was just reset. dobbs opinion overturned roe which was probably one of the worst supreme court opinion. >> sean: roe v wade. >> roe v wade. >> sean: you like the states to decide.

>> my entire career for 25 years states should have the right to do this. there's no national consensus for the people on what to do with that issue on a federal issue for certain. we have such big priorities in this moment right now sean. we have israel being attacked, we have unrest. we have the ukraine situation we've got to deal with. we have china being aggressive, iran with all the metling and china russia and iran working together, this is a dangerous time, the economy's in the tank, the border's overrun, people are dying from fentanyl issues, all of these issues, these are the front line manners that have our attention right now and the rest of these things they're just using for political attacks. >> sean: so basically you're saying these issues will not be coming up and you're going to focus on the agenda items you laid out already and the ones we just mentioned which we will go into some detail with. let me ask you one other question on this, and this has come up on, well, controversial, you had authored legislation called the stop the sexualization of children act of 2022. okay. now, i looked deeply into this

act. your critics have said or dubbed it, it's a federal don't say gay measure. by the way, the word gay was never in the florida legislation, in fairness to governor desantis, and yet this, when you look at exactly what this is, it would prohibit the use of federal funds to develop, implement, facilitate or fund any sexually oriented program, event, literature, for children under the age of 10. now, a lot of our kids in a lot of school districts around the country, they can't read, write, do math, science, they're not learning history and they certainly need to learn computers. so to the age of 10, very specifically. but you're not talking about anything droned. >> no. and if you poll this will anywhereer in the country, almost any state, any community they're going to say moms and dads should be the ones responsible for talking about these sensitive issues with their children, not the public school stechlt i mean, he'll take that debate somewhere, main street in any town hall in any city in america. i would love for them to challenge us on that because

that's what the american people believe and that's what i believe. >> sean: let me ask. i have a lot of questions. as you point out, there is a lot going on in the world right now. let me throw some numbers at you because i think they're very important. we have war in europe, we have ukraine and we've got russia. and it seems very precarious there. already joe biden has given $76.8 billion to yvjt he wants $61 billion more. he wants 14 billion to go to israel. and i think -- and then he wants to put money on the border probably to satisfy conservatives in the house and get their support on ukraine, for example, which seems to be his top priority. a big disparity in the amount of money. i have some criticisms about the issue of ukraine. number one, if you're going to fight a war you should fight it to win it. i thought the president made a horrible mistake by denying migs offered by poland and made an

horrible mistake putting handcuffs on the zelenskyy army on how they can fight and what weapons they can and cannot use like cluster bombs. i don't like europe doesn't pay their fair shave. they have 78 billion he wants another 61 billion: how will you deep -- he wants to tie all the issues together which now gets into the budgetary process. will you go issue by issue? >> i told the staff at the white house today that our consensus among house republicans is that we need to by for indicate those issues. i agree with your assessment in ukraine and that's why the american people are demanding real accountability for the use of those dollars. we can't allow vladimir putin to prevail in ukraine because i don't believe it would stop there and would probably encourage and empower china to perhaps make a move on taiwan. we have these concerns. we're not going to abandon them but we have a responsibility, a stewardship responsibility over the precious treasure of the american people and we have to make sure that the white house is providing the people with some accountability for the dollars. we want to know what the objective there is, what is the

end game in beening why. the white house has not provided that. i was at the white house for a couple have hours today and i told the staff there that this writes we are. this is where the house republicans are. so we're going to -- >> sean: that kind of money, america having a proxy war with putin and russia. >> it's a great concern. we have a group of colleagues led by mark garcia, a brilliant litigator and top gun pilot and some of our veterans have gotten together, dan crenshaw and others, came up with a document that came up with 12 critical questions for the white house to answer as a condition for our supplying the additional support. these are not hard questions, things the white house should be forthcoming about. i delivered that myself. >> sean: oh, you did deliver it. >> i delivered it myself today into the national security advisor jake sullivan. >> sean: did he read it. >> he said he's studying it. >> sean: tonight during the show. >> yes. we want to be cooperative. we need to work together on this. but we owe it to the people to know what the plan is, where the money's going to be spent and we need some auditing for the

dollars already sent over there. these are not tough questions. israel's a separate matterment we're going to bring a stand alone israel funding measure $14 billion. >> is 14 billion enough. >> israel's requested a little less than that actually, the white house did by way of israel and 14.5 billion specifically is what we're looking at. it's a very specific number tied to very specific measures. but here's the important thing that distinguishes house republicans the other team, we're going to find pay fors in the budget. we're not just printing money to send it overseas we're going to find the cuts he will where to do that. >> sean: let me ask you this. in israel it's very complicated. syria is now firing missiles into israel. the houthis rebels which i don't know why joe biden once designated a terrorist group, he's taken away that designation, why, i don't know. they tried to fire missiles into israel. in north you have hezbollah and you have lebanon, in the south where gaza killed 1400 including 30 americans and americans are

being held hostage. beyond the money part, is there any involvement you see, or any reason for any military involvement by the united states, would congress support that? because it seems like, with the maneuverings of our navy and other indications, special forces, maybe to rescue american hostages, any movement that you would support that you can think of now? >> it's a very delicate situation, it changes by the hour. we're watching it very closely. one thing the house republicans resolved on is we must stand with our most important ally in the middle east and that's israel. we certainly hope it doesn't come to boots on the ground. if it comes to that and we communicated this to the white house staff as well today, that, you know, we have the article one power in legislative branch of government and they have article two, they have very limited authority on what they can do to respond without coming to dong seek consent. and even my democrat colleagues, sean, that are, committees of jurisdiction understand this and

the foreign affairs committee. there's a purpose for that. the reason the framers put that into the constitution is they wanted a multitude of wise counsel to decide on a declaration of war, they wanted duly elected representatives of the people to make that decision collectively and not one commander in chief sitting in an office. >> sean: here's my worst fear, worst case scenario for the middle east. israel will be fighting a 2-front war. >> yeah. >> sean: gaza, hamas in the south. >>ey. >> sean: as soon as the ground incursion which could happen at any minute begins, i would expect more rockets to be fired from the north from lebanon, hezbollah, they both have something in common that they're getting military strategy, weaponry, money support from iran. >> yeah. >> sean: that's the head of the snake. now we have another problem. syria has involved itself in this conflict. another problem, the houthis seem to be wanting to involve themselves and you have comments made by the leaders of iran that they, themselves, may get

involved in a conflict. if that happens, correct me if you think i'm wrong, i would say all bets are off in the middle east. we could have a full-out war in the middle east. israel at the center of it. and at that point, if israel's existence is put in jeopardy, i don't think prime minister netanyahu, who i've known for almost 30 years, i don't think there's anything he won't do to preserve and protect his country from people that have committed their lives to destroy it. >> he has to do that, and around here people throw around the phrase existential threat. they have an existential threat every day. their neighbors want to eliminate them and wipe them off the map. so prime minister netanyahu is resolved, i've spent time with him personally, i know him as well, he's a strong leader at this point in time and will do what is necessary. and america will back him up. they tell us when we're in israel and you've been there, they say the reason that we are able to sustain ourselves and

survive is because everyone knows that our big ally is america. and that's an important role that we have in the world. we're not the world's policemen but a strong america, as i said, is good for the whole world, because it's the perception that we would be there to defend freedom and that's been our role, that's the reagan doctrine. a lot of friends in our pear are becoming more isolationists and i understand the concerns. we can't be dropping money out of helicopters around the world because we also have a $33.5 trillion debt of our own. >> i saw a sign that said 33.6. >> did we go to six? great. >> sean: probably from this afternoon. >> it goes so quick you can't track it. that's the concern. we are deeply concerned about all nations of free people of the world but we have to take care of our own house first so that's also part of this delicate a calculation and the decision. >> sean: i've been to israel during a flare-up in i believe 2014 and at that point i got to see up front and go inside the terror tunnels that are built by hamas. by the way, all of the money and

resources, that was given to the palestinian people for infrastructure and schools and hospitals but they have this massive network of terror tunnels and when you go inside it's mind numbing this is how they spend their money and time because they want to capture is reels and take them hostage. but one particular city ten thousand rockets they've been hit with in ten years and these kids play indoors in bunker playgrounds. my question to you is simple. if joe biden wants do give $100 million to the palestinians for humanitarian relief. sounds great on paper. i have zero confidence one penny will make it to the palestinian people, because hamas has been for forcing feeble stay and pointing guns at the palestinians that want to leave. >> right, they use the palestinians as shields. they don't even provide the

people with clean drinking water we're supposed to believe they're going to use u.s. aid for humanitarian purposes? count me as a skeptic. okay. we have to be careful about what we are he doing there, we don't juan to empower the terrorist groups our hearts go out to innocent palestinian people of course as we do with anyone in a terrible situation like that. but we have to be very discerning in our policy and open from this. that's why we're demanding, house republicans are demanding more information from the white house so that we can help and make these critical decisions. look, we're going to stand by israel but we have to be careful where it's done. >> sean: what about did hundred million for the humanitarian relief for palestinians. >> i think it's a tough issue. we're going to have to see what that is tied to. the house democrats are very resolute on that and they try to portray us about being uncaring. we care about that as well but we have to be very careful that we're not further funding terrorist organizations that are trying to wipe israel off the map. >> sean: can you explain why then president obama vice-president biden did this

billion dollars deal with iran, can you explain why joe biden made a deal with the iranians for $6 billion to be freed up? money that was held that they had no access to? >> yeah. we're in fits over that. i don't understand it at all. i don't understand most of their foreign policy and i think it's gotten us in the shape that we're in. we have big disagreements with them. we're asking for and demand an accountability on that as well. and we have to -- the white house has to improve how they're messaging this and how they're explaining it to people because we all have to understand that we have a right to. this is the precious treasure of the american people and if you're sending iran money we know that iran is directly tied to all of this. hamas and hezbollah are proxies of iran and they're tied in now with russia and china. it's a new axis of evil, that's how we see it and it has to be addressed. >> sean: you say israel with all the funding of terror and these terror organizations they're within their right to fight back

and directly at iran. >> of course. that was noted, the first act of my speakership is that we passed that resolution to articulate that and make it very clear where we stand. the house is back in business and we are going to stand with is gee i call it the new axis of evil, china, russia, iran. >> yeah. >> sean: how big a threat. >> it's huge, the biggest threat. since world war ii we have been the big kid on the block, right, the last real super power, after the ussr failed, we've been unrivaled. china is a near peer to peer adversary to us now and their goal is to rebuild the empire. so we're doing everything we can to ensure we maintain our military superiority. we're the only nation that has the ability to project power and force like that around the globe right now, but china's doing its best to encroach upon that power and you see they're even putting out posts around us buying up farm land in states here in the u.s. all of these things have to be addressed at the federal level the state level with

legislatures and even in some local cal is the, we have chinese ccp owned companies coming in and opening shop on main street in some small towns. >> sean: they're buying our farm land. >> yes. >> sean: they're buying our ranch land and land near military installations. >> yes. >> sean: would we be allowed to buy it there. >> of course not. and they allowed a chinese spy balloon to float unimpede for eight days. we scratch our heads a lot about the biden decisions, it may be tied in some ways from some of the money they joel embiid you are on the house judiciary committee we've been watching the house oversight committee with james comer. >> yes. >> sean: there's issues involving two congressmen in particular, a democrat and republican, george santos the republican, many charges have been filed against him. and then the issue of congresswoman talib, and others, and this talk of censure and talk of removal. do you support either? >> we're working through those issues. i'll tell you i talked to the

authorizes of some of these resolutions today that want to deal with that. here's the reality, sean, we have a 4-seat majority in the house. it is possible that number may be reduced even more in the coming weeks and months. and so we'll have what may be the most razor thin majority in the history of the congress. we have no margin for error. and so george santos is due due process, right? my understanding is i think he's appearing in a federal court tomorrow. and we have to allow due process to play itself out. that's what our system of justice is for. >> sean: he's not convicted he's charged. >> he's charged. if we're going to expel people from congress because they're charged of a crime or accused that's a problem. >> sean: joe biden has allowed over 7.5 million people into this country illegally, it will probably be over eight million even freebl terror watch lists and from iran and syria. how do you get the border secure and what is your assessment of

secretary of homeland security mayorkas? should he be impeached? >> listen, you know my duties here have included judiciary and the federal government. in my assessment almost every federal agency under the biden administration have been weaponized. the agencies designed to serve and protect the people are being used against them and we have many examples and you talked about all of it on your show before. mayorkas has been an abject failure i believe he's committed impeachable offenses and i've been on record saying that for a long long time. he's very appeared in an oversight committee we have jurisdiction in his departmentment less than four months into office and i saw where this was headed and i told him in a clip that went viral mr. mayorkas you need to get your resume prepared because i thought he was headed toward a dead end on this. the investigations are going forward, james comer and the oversight committee are doing an exceptional job, jim jordan chairman of judiciary has head lead that. we have gotten a lot of information. >> sean: you're on the judiciary

exitee. let me ask you. do you believe that joe biden's department of justice, do you believe our fbi has been politicized? do you believe it's been weaponized? do wove a dual justice system. >> absolutely we have a two-tiered system of justice and that erodes the people's faith in our system of justice it's self. and this is what i reminded merrick garland when he was in front of us, the attorney general, christopher wray at the fbi, the greatest theft is not the individual issues it's that the people are losing their 98 the system of justice sean you cannot maintain a constitutional republican a government by and for the people if the people doubt that the system is fair, you know if they believe there's two tiers of justice then the system doesn't work at all. and so i think garland's been a great threat, the worst attorney general in the history of the united states. >> sean: joe biden swore to the american people both as a candidate and as president, not one time did he ever speak to his son, his brother, or anybody, for that matter, about their foreign business dealings. we know that is a flat-out lie. we've learned from james comer

and his investigation that we are talking about tens of millions of dollars taken in from a lot of adversarial countries, some of our top geopolitical foes like china, russia, ukraine. >> yeah. >> sean: romania, mexico, other countries, tens of millions. they've discovered all of these shell corporations. they've discovered nine particular biden family members have been paid. and then you have the issue of joe on tape admitting that he used our money, taxpayer money to leverage a billion dollars in loan guaranties, which was obama administration policy, to fire a prosecutor investigating his son. well, one of the benefits of that, his son continued to get paid for a job he admits he had no experience in at a time where he was dealing with a drug problem. that sound like to you? >> that's a pretty good recitation of the facts and as john adams said facts are stubborn things they're hard to ignore. i believe the documents are proving all that as my good brother jamie comer often says,

the bank records don't lie. so we have the receipts on so much of this now. it's a real problem. that's the reason that we shifted into the impeachment inquiry stage on the president himself because, if, in fact, all the evidence leads to where we believe it will, that's very likely impeachable offenses. you know, that's listed as a cause for impeachment in the constitution, bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors bribery's listed there and it looks and smells a lot like that and i think the evidence -- we're going to follow the truth where it leads and engage in due process because again we're the rule of law party. i know people are getting anxious and restless and they just want somebody to be impeached but we don't do that like the other team. we have to base it upon the evidence and the evidence is coming together. we'll see where it leads. >> sean: let me go back to the budget if i may for a second. >> sure. >> sean: this whole issue of regular order, we have four of the 12 appropriations bills that have already been dealt with. my understanding is that's about 70% of the budget. >> yeah. >> sean: so you have eight more to go. you've talked about a short-term

cr that you would be willing to maybe have until january or maybe even into april. would there be -- we talked about a clean cr. would you have conditions? for example, chip roy and byron donalds had a plan, okay, well, we'll give you a cr but it's not going to be clean, we're going to cut government spending by 8% and secure the border and protect our military and veterans. would you have conditions to a cr. >> i think we have to if, indeed we do that. november 17th of course is the deadline that was extended the. >> sean: yeah you have about -- >> coming quickly. >> sean: -- 21 days. we're speeding it up as quickly as possible that was my commitment to my col ease when they made me speaker of the house. in fact we passed one of the bills a couple hours ago before you arrived here. we got it off the house floor the energy and water bill that was a big box we had to check and we did that. we're going forward. chip and byron are at the table with others, we're working through this with the ideas and trying to ensure that if another

stop gap measure is required, that we do it with certain conditions and i think there will be conditions the american people can live with and the consensus that we we can build around here in the house. >> sean: let me ask you this. two-thirds of this country now are living paycheck to paycheck. >> yes. >> sean: many of those people can't afford bare necessities. i know biden has been crowing about bidenomics, i know they got good numbers today, however a lot of economists i spoke to earlier today, this doesn't look good at all. they think we're in a bubble that is about to burst and it's going to be even worse especially in the housing market. new home construction is stopping, sale of pre-existing homes a disaster. how bad is this economy? how long can we sustain another, what, two trillion in debt that joe biden took on last year? and how do we get inflation down once and for all? i have friends of mine, just three years ago, they were getting interest rates for a 30 year fixed rate mortgage at 3%

now it averages 8%, nobody's going to sell their home and buy another home because it's thousands of dollars more for the same type of home. >> it grinds the economy to a halt, it's a disaster that's the word you used and that's appropriate. into is are policy choices that got us in this situation. if you remember rewind in your mind to right back before the pandemic began in the trump administration we had the greatest economy in the history of the world because we cut taxes cut regulations, focused on american energy dominance, we were doing and following all the policies that led to economic as you can see and growths for all americans, everyone, in every demographic all boats were rising. we can achieve that again but you have to do almost exactly the opposite of what the biden administration is pursuing and doing. this is not rocket science but we're so far down the road now that we have to make these changes quickly. and we're trying to urge our democratic colleagues to take a look again at the basic facts. i mean interest rates are so

high now they're going to continue to rise apparently. >> sean: double digit i can see it coming. let me ask the question maybe this way. because you do have such a small majority and obviously that didn't help kevin mccarthy. i think you should get rid of the motion to vacate and raise the bar dramatically, 20, 25 people at least. my question is specifically on the economy, if you pass your budgets in the house, you're going to sends it over to the senate they're going to rip it up line by line, you'll go into conference but the only way you can succeed is if you as speaker are able to hold your slim majority. >> yes. >> sean: that's going to be a herculean task. how do you plan on doing that? >> with truth and transparency and relationships. you know, this is a business that's beefed on that. my colleagues trust me, i'm grateful for that. it's earned. and i'm going to do well by them and we're going to govern well. we're going to show the american people we can. when you get into negotiations

in the conference committee the speaker of the house and the leader of our party has to have a strong hand so if we can keep the team together, keep rowing in the same direction, look, everybody's got to give up on some of their preferences, none of us will get everything we want. i'll never ask any of my colleagues to compromise core principles because i share those principles with them. but ronald reagan used to teach us i would and i am very optimistic and am bullish on the future of america and change the way washington works sean. we have a once in a lifetime opportunity here and that's the vision i cast to my colleagues i believe it to my core. we're going to take this day by day decision by decision but keep everything together and move the ball forward for the american people. i genuinely believe we can get this done. >> sean: one of the things that i have said over and over again to anybody that will listen, although i can look in this camera and say honestly nobody ever listens to me. >> not true, not true. >> sean: but i try. it's my strong belief that all

republicans, you're either going to win together or you're going to be, in the eyes of the american people, you're going to win on your agenda or you're going to lose and i don't see any way of winning if you don't all stick together. i know you have this group of egos if you will. i hope everybody will maybe hear your admonition, can we become energy dominate and maybe start paying down our debt. can we come up with sound foreign policy to help out our allies in a time of -- a dire time for them? i mean these challenges run deep. and then you have the issue of law and order, safety, security, open borders. pretty scary times. do you think this country's in decline? >> i think right now we're in very desperate dimes. the hour's late and the crisis is great but here's where i'm encouraged in previous generations from the framers the founders of this country all the way through times of the revolutionary period, the civil

war, the great depression, the other world wars, when the leaders here got in trouble, that was beyond the scope of what they could solve themselves, individually or collectively. you know what they did they sought define guidance for it. we have in god we trust right above the roster there and i pointed that out in my speech. >> sean: is this the ben franklin moment. >> it is exactly right, the same thing. and we're calling one another to humble ourselves and recognize that the challenges are so great, but that's where real opportunity is presented. i believe that god is not done with america yet. okay? i still believe in that motto. it's not just a quaint saying to me. it's what the nation was founded upon this belief shall it's what distinguishes us from the communist marxist socialist countries around the world it is and we ought to appeal to that and believe if we do god will give us his favor and i believe we'll solve these problems. >> sean: i did ask you before the show and i'll make this the last question, and i said, because i believe that if you take this majority and you can

somehow pull these dispar it groups together i believe it will be good for the country because i'm very clear about my conservatism, i believe those policies are best for my country and i want the best for our country. >> i do, too. >> sean: this country, i've had a life frankly that's undeserved and i just really -- so i asked you, i said, would it be okay when you came back once you get settled, you've had less than 48 hours and we appreciate you doing the interview, and bring the disparit groups in a room and do it for an hour and see what issues that we can find full agreement on. i would like to know what those issues are and where the disagreements are. will you be willing to have us back? >> of course we're working on that and that's a great admonition. this is a people full of great faith. >> sean: there's some big egos. >> yeah well washington has that sometimes. we're going to work through it. >> sean: mr. speaker, we appreciate your time thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> sean: also breaking tonight we have other breaking news and

other updates from the biden corruption probes, according to senator chuck grassley the fbi is now sitting on criminal allegations involving joe, hunter and james biden from over 40 separate confidential human sources. meanwhile earlier this week, scott brady the former u.s. attorney for the western district of pennsylvania, told the house judiciary committee in a closed-door interview that the fbi literally hindered the hunter biden probe and that special counsel david weiss actually skipped a briefing on the biden bribery allegations. also breaking tonight, house oversight chairman james comer is now demanding that the white house provide records proving that the $200,000 payment to joe from his brother was, in fact, a loan. i guess that paperwork would be easy to produce. here's when we lent the two00, here's the proof that it was lent. there you go. anyway fellow house judiciary committee member jim jordan is with us. you just heard from your new speaker. >> yeah. >> sean: are you glad it's not

you? >> well, i think your audience heard, sean, what a good man mike johnson is. and i'm proud to have him as our speaker of the house. he's worked on our committee. he's a man of just solid character as you can see, a christian man who cares about this great nation and i think he's going to work his tail off. plus as you can see just a sharp guy who's argued cases in front of the supreme court. he's the kind of guy we need at this particular point in american history. i'm proud to count him as a friend and proud he's the speaker of the house. >> sean: let me ask you, jim, as the head of this powerful judiciary, you are looking into the weaponization, whether our department of justice and our fbi have been weaponized. >> yep. >> sean: we have all this new information coming out every day, three committees really doing independent investigations though they really do correlate. >> right >> sean: and function as one big one. on the issue of what we found out about these 40, you know, people that real sources to the

fbi, and y you read the story hw it was not brought to the attention, how the fbi and the doj seem to do nothing about it. this is where the first 1023 form came isn't it? >> right. and that finding that mr. grassley talked about, senator grassley talked about was butt stressed by what we learned in the deposition with us attorney scott brady earlier this week. because mr. brady was tasked by the attorney general of the united states on january 3, 2020, sean, to be the clearing house for all information related to hunter biden, the investigation, and ukraine. and so he goes to the fbi, mr. brady does, and says giver me that information i want to take a look at it, we'll get it to the proper u.s. attorney handling the investigative work, and the fbi didn't tell him about the confidential human source for six months, six months. >> sean: congressman, i've got to stop you. apparently air strikes have taken place. jennifer griffin at the pentagon right now. >> oh, wow. >> sean: jennifer this sounds like huge news. >> sean, we can report, based senior military sources that

u.s. war planes have carried out air strikes tonight inside syria against iranian proxy forces. we don't know the number of strikes. we were told earlier today to expect that perhaps f-15s and f-16s would be involved in the air strikes but we don't have confirmation yet about how many war planes. but those strikes have been carried out. i'm told it is in response to the more than dozen strikes against u.s. bases. the message is a clear message designed to iran and its proxy forces to stop carrying out these drone and rocket attacks against u.s. bases. but i'm told that the planes have safely left the area and than the air strikes are complete at this time. they were targeting multiple locations inside syria and iranian proxy forces, sean. >> sean: so important, jennifer. thank you for that breaking news, especially in light of the fact that american forces have been attacked by both iraq and

by syria. we appreciate that news. we continue, though, with judiciary committee chairman jim jordan. i want you to respond to that in the less than two minutes we have left, tell us about this interview that you did in your committee and what you learned. >> well, with scott brady we also learned that i asked mr. brady in that interview, sean, when did you learn about the laptop? and he got a smile on his face and he said, when the story went public in the new york post on october 14th. so they didn't even tell scott brady about the laptop and the pertinent information on that lop top about ukraine and hunter biden's dealings with ukraine. that shows you what speaker johnson talked about, how these agencies have been turned against the american people. when they won't share that information with the individual tasked by the attorney general of the united states to look into this and filter it out the way it's supposed to be, that tells you how bad it is. and then you have what senator grassley has added to that the last couple days with these 40

individuals, that's how serious the situation is and why we're proceeding in our impeachment inquiry phase of our oversight work. >> sean: real quick, jim, you know, the fact that syria and iraq have been -- american soldiers have been attacked in both syria and iraq recently. i'm actually -- my initial instinct is to be glad that they fought back they fired back. >> yep, yep. >> sean: i'm happy at that news. your reaction quick. >> same here. i want to get the details but, you know, when someone attacks the united states servicemen and women, we have to respond back. so i want to see what's happened here but it shows you how serious this wholeall situation is and why we need strength projected from the oval office. >> sean: all right. jim jordan, thank you as always. that's all the time we have left this evening. stand by though, continuing coverage on all the breaking news tonight. the manhunt, what's happened with these strikes, trace gallagher takes over from here. thank you.