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>> trace gallagher, live in jerusalem, 7 a.m., gaza border smoke in the background. there would also be fire, apparently another airstrike from israeli defense forces no word of a ground invasion. but there is breaking news because overnight the united states, would be f16s targeted ammunition and weapons storage areas in syria. it was a strike that united states says had been coming. i want to bring in the national security correspondent with a statement from the defense secretary. what do we know? >> well earlier tonight about two hours ago these two u.s. f16s carried out airstrikes on two different facilities near the iraq border in southeastern syria near abu kamal.
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they were irgc run, one stored weapons one ammunition. u.s. defense we spoke to said they didn't know if iranians were there but iranian fingerprints were all over the attacks that have been taking place on u.s. bases since october 17th and they hope with this quote precision airstrike on these facilities that iran will tell its proxy forces to stop targeting u.s. forces. otherwise a statement from lloyd austin after the attacks he suggested the airstrikes would continue if the iranian proxy forces didn't get the message. quote the united states does not seek conflict and has no intention nor desire to engage in further hostility but these
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iranian backed attacks against u.s. forces are unacceptable and must stop. iran wants to hide its hand and deny its role. we will not let them. i think what's notable is that we learned from a senior u.s. military material the u.s. did not inform israel in advance of this strike or coordinate with israel and want to keep it separate from the israel-hamas taking place right now. they want it to be understood this is a response for those 19 attacks on u.s. bases that have caused some traumatic brain injuries and concussions to american servicemembers. whether it will be viewed that
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way in the region is another question but we can reported that israel wasn't informed in advantages. identify learned from sources that israel was given a courtesy call after the airstrikes occurred, just as the same courtesy calls were to other u.s. allies. >> i'm wondering jennifer if there's a feeling conventional wisdom at the pentagon these proxies will stop the attacks that iran will stop the attacks now that the united states has conducted this strike. is that conventional wisdom or is the thinking that these strikes might go on a while and there might be another round for the united states? >> i don't think anyone i spoke to at the pentagon is pollyannaish about when these strikes will stop with this one pair of airstrikes against irgc backed facilities in eastern syria. on march 23rd the u.s. carried
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out similar strikes on a similar scale in the wake of iranian proxy forces attacking a u.s. base in the south and killing one u.s. contractor. the iranian forces got the message after that. there was a quiet for a number of months but since october 17th there have been 19 attacks on u.s. bases so i think the feeling is that this was a precision, a calibrated strike to send a direct message the wording in secretary austin's statement tonight is very clear that they're pinning this on iran hoping iran gets this message also a message delivered from president biden we learned from the white house earlier today that that message was sent most likely through a swiss emissary, the swiss are the go between u.s. and iran because
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they don't have embassies at this time but if they don't get that message and the strikes on u.s. bases continue the u.s. plans to strike again and there will be and escalation. that's how deterrence works. they start at low level and ramp up if the attacks con. you have the uss ford in the eastern mediterranean. you have 900 u.s. troops been sent to the middle east in addition to the thousands that are already on bases across the middle east, security is very tight, air defenses are tight around those bases, the suspect on high alert, and it is possible with friday, tomorrow friday prayers you often see an uptick in attacks in the middle east so i would certainly this is not the end of this particular round between the
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u.s. and iranian proxy forces. >> i would expect the same. jen thank you. camrick hamilton former navy seal and general tat. jennifer left off at a good point. do you expect this back and forth to continue? nobody believes that everything is going to halt after a come of u.s. air strierks on weapons and ammunition areas. >> trace, that's the real question, is this incremental policy chita appears has been chosen this path to a pin prick strike on ammo and weapons is, that the right path or would it be better to come in and hit hard, perhaps even hit iranian oil infrastructure and nuclear facilities? you know, so that's the full
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range that you could do, because there's no question that iran is behind this. and so, do we go directly at iran? because they're coming directly at us. it's very overt. they're training hamas in iran and sending them to go slaughter israelis in israel. it's overt as it gets so it's a real dilemma for the administration and they need all the elements of national power diplomacy military economic. they need to get everything working in harmony to be able to apply the pressure to iran to get them to back down. >> yes and the general makes a good point cameron the iranians through their proxies are coming directly at the united states. there have been 16-plus attacks in the last 8 days. yet we went after syria. you think if there's another
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round do you also go after syria maybe a tomahawk and at what point do you elevate and go after the lead dog? >> this is a really critical issue we are going to have to look at. the iranian and groups are seeing what resolve we have to deaf fends israel. so these are kinds of initial pricks that are homes to insight conservator nation. there's argument to be made about drawing united states in conflicts with other parts of the region so as to amplify the nature of this war. israel has formally declared war on hamas but what we see is a coalition of other parties coming to defense of hamas. we have seen nations like iraq
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requested the arab league of nations to make movements toward hamas. >> they will try to draw the united states in to see what our resolve and spread our forces thin. >> general we brought this up earlier, but you know it's very concerning when you have these reports that there are members of hamas as well as the iranian minister in moscow today meeting with top russian authorities had there and you wonder the connection there. maybe you go after iran and the oil infrastructure there. what does that bring? what response does that bring from russia? what response does it bring from
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china and north korea? it becomes a very slippery slope. >> yes, you're exactly right, trace and i think what we are seeing is that the leadership vacuum for the last two and a half years has led to china russia iran in particular and even north korea forming an alliance and iran is providing drones to russia and ukraine. we are providing weapons to ukraine to defeat russia and we have been very open about that. so why wouldn't russia in self interest ally with iran to have them come after us and try to distract us from being all in and myopicly focused on ukraine. so here we are. we have got to look after our own people and number one ally in the middle east israel so now we're truly on the horns of a
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dilemma and we've got to be able to take a step back, really look at the real threat out there, iran and the shia militia groups and be able to develop plans and policies that take them on and quit worrying about this iran nuclear deal and the mullas and giving them six billion dollars. we have troops to protect and allies to work with. >> i think there's a feeling cameron in iran that they can keep pokeing the bear and attack some of these military facilities in iraq and syria and then the united states finally lashes back by going after some of these am nigsz and weapons areas but they would never go after iran proper because there's too much at risk, too many times the administration says we don't want to see this explode into a conflict but at
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some point you have to stand up for yourself. >> what we see right now is a lot of that activity. iran also knows if they draw the united states and nations into a much larger scale of war ultimately it would not be in their interest for survival but it would also placate a lot of public sympathy to draw quite a bit of support and infrastructure this their aid. so you've got nations like russia like klein that eager to see united states in large military action. i don't think anybody would argue united states could not obliteratan. would it be our interests to do so, no. instead use powerful surgical strikes to respond to threats to deter further action but making it clearest correlation maybe possible however should be avoidable if at all so the area we see right now is this
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delicate dance, much brought back to the implications of what this administration has done with our foreign policy. when we project weakness we create an environment where activities like this are anticipated to be more successful. >> very quickly i'm going to ask you each a question because in the context of this the ground war talk. israeli forces going into gaza and the domino effect of hezbollah coming into northern israel, on and on. do you think it's time for the ground war to begin or should it be delayed further? >> trace, i think israel needs to begin it when they want to begin it when they see the conditions are set there and the conditions setting place, preparing the battlefield intelligence preparation of the battlefield surgical strikes with missiles rockets airplanes trying to eliminate leadership
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command and control and study the battlefield so they don't show the troops into the meat grinder but show finesse do surgical attacks and pave the way for a more successful mission. >> the general is right they've been effective with in campaign they've been conducting the past 21 days and so maybe it's okay to continue that for a while. >> what i can say is they're probing quite a bit in the region. they have special operations units there doing research gaining intelligence to as to find the best avenue to rescue hostages as well as to gain a foot hold further into gaza so this campaign will be successful. it's a difficult scenario that israel faces where they have to mitigate the threat of hamas, at the same time being prudent and measured and be able to respond in north and other regions and we have seen reports from the southwest along coastline of divers and other activities
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societies not an east scenario, a multi-front warfare, israel has to be measured and special operation units have the quite a bit of engagement in gaza. we reports of soldiers killed down there from specific targeting and probing efforts to find hostage so it is a delicate balance but israel will invade when time is right. >> thank you. lucas tomlinson he's got snabs targets that the united states hit in syria. what are you working on lucas? >> it's important lloyd austin called these narrowly tailored strikes. pressure is ramping up not just in the white house and money briefing room and there was pressure to respond. also for years trace the red line for u.s. forces has been
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the death of any american after that u.s. contractor died of a heart attack in one drone strike in iraq that compelled the pentagon and white house to launch airstrikes on ammunition depots along the border with iraq. remember a few years ago this is the general area where isis made its last stand. remember the united states has 900 troops in eastern syria 2500 troops in iraq these force under fire the last ten days and tonight early this morning here in israel u.s. forces felt they needed to respond trace. >> lucas i want to go back and cover my tracks here. when you talk about these targets, were these targets specifically picked out or is this something they decide along the way. >> if you remember back in march
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this is the second time the administration has launched strikes against these proxy groups in eastern syria. in march another contractor died in attack in eastern syria so it's notable it's not a -- two pair of f16s were used for the target. it's important to think pinpoint strikes. you were talking earlier why would you not launch a tomahawk missiles. those are launched from the sea from u.s. warships. you have overflights over saudi arabia syria jordan you have to get permission for that so surgical proportional is best to describe it. >> bret baier, a lot of news tonight, the political ramifications of this what do
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you think. >> trace, i'm head back to east coast from the ronald reagan library event here and thinking all these presidents who have done proportional strikes differences times this, pressure was too big for this president not to act in some way as you heard from a lot of military experts saying something had to be done after 19 specific strikes by iranian proxy groups at u.s. bases throughout the region. 1986 he had a surgical strike in libya against mohammed after a my club bombing. the pentagon has plans and offer the president a menu. this menu has been offered for some days since the strikes added up throughout the region. >> i've got a couple minutes to
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break, but we talked about this with the general and cameron hamilton. what if the proportional strike has to go. what if proxy groups start and next time it's a tomahawk or bigger strike in a differences area? >> it pulls us in. that's the fear for people worrying about the u.s. being drawn in but the proportional strike is about defense sending a message to iran we will not take this this, has to stop and if you continue we will continue at bigger bites of the apple going after key targets. we are going to see what this ends up being, but everything we are being briefed on, everything jennifer and lucas are recording on is very targeted. there's another menu. that's how this place works. there's another menu the president can choose from depending twho happens next. >> it really does and i wonder
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bret if these calculations work out. jennifer was at briefing. you think they've got three steps down the load. it works like that and we will see how it plays out. 20 seconds for your final thoughts. >> i think it's a dangerous time. it's a tinderbox. we have a lot of assets in the region. the question is what israel does when it does it and how we react. >> bret baier, the anchor of "special report". safe travels. see you back soon. the break here we keep talking about these airstrikes two f16s. they came in and they hit two targets in syria. the question is, will they stop these iranian proxies? continuing coverage of breaking news next. fox news. a confident day... a never-hide-my-smile day... a life-of-the-party day...
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>> welcome back to our live coverage in jerusalem. we will con coverage the breaking news of u.s. airstrikes in syria but there's also breaking news out of the united states. appears one of the largest manhunts in the state of maine is back on because for hours tonight looked like police found their man with law enforcement vehicles surrounding a family compound of robert card in boden. there were gunshots or flash bangs then police yelled come out with hands up. there are reports police went into the property, found nothing. so 40-year-old robert card remains on the run accused of opening mile in a bar in lewiston and then in a pool
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hall. the prime suspect could be anywhere. molly is live in lewiston maine with the latest on this situation. >> trace law enforcement spent hours searching that property there in boden hometown area of suspect robert card in there case as you mentioned no major development. they didn't find card, but law enforcement on scene used a megaphone calling for anybody inside the house to come out peacefully. they used a series of flash bangs to force him out if he was there but per maine state police the announcements we are were hearing were standard search warrant announcements when executing a warrant to insure the safety of everybody involved. they didn't know if card was inside. it turned out he wasn't. state police say despite in
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inaccurate local reports they want it to be clear there were no shots fired at that scene. also notable the coast guard has joined this search there. are lakes rivers and water ways in maine the coast guard over booth bay harbor after finding the suspect's vehicle in lisbon near a boat dock so that's been a part of the search expanding and new information a senior custom and border patrol source telling our source elite border agent are here assisting, the special forces of the border patrol have been successful in other high profile cases so they're added to the team on the ground searching for robert card but more than 24 hours after this horrific massacre they're still looking for robert card and urging people to stay home. >> molly thank you.
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criminal defense attorney vick. it's great to have you on here. you look at searches and it seems to me i have been watching looking and there have been no reports, police have mentioned nothing about any stolen cars. list car was found there's no report of any stolen or hijacked cars. it sounds vick to me like he really did take a boat to the ocean or is on foot. >> that's correct or he's passed away. many times you have individuals that suffer from significant mental illness and they come to the realization of the significant harm they may have caused later on in a lucid had moment and what may bring these conditions are important. what's important for maine primarily here is because maine
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is a very pro-second amendment community a state. there is a right for concealed weapons barring search and exceptions. that's why violence gun violence is rare in the state. let's not discount the fact that in the woods in the forests the waterways he may have taken his own life once realizing that he's caused a lot of harm permanently to a lot of people. >> we talked about this but the red flag laws there is not one in maine but there's a yellow flag lawyer and the fact he was army reserve and turned same-saying he's had visions of killing somebody seems it's incumbent upon law enforcement to take him in and seizes his weapons. >> the yellow flag law in maine re-senly passed and talked about by senator collins specifically mandate that a mental health professional m.d., d.o. or
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somebody properly trained conducts significant evaluation of the suspect or patient and in this case that did not happen. if that happened and the weapon that was use d owned or controlled by him construct i havely possessed or legally owned those weapons needed to be taken away from him and didn't happen and it's a bad excuse to say you know what, maybe we just weren't on our game and fell through the cracks. we had at least 18 lives taken and hundreds of those affected and of course now we are going to see a movement toward strict gun control which does not address the mental illness problem scarring our nation. >> retired fbi supervisor jack said he posted threatening stuff on social media. i've got about 20 seconds left for you. could he be arrested for that?
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>> absolutely. trace, you know he already has eight counts murder, arrest warren. he has threats. he's going to have intim daying witnesses, threats, entering an area where he should not have had a weapon. the murder charges are the bigger charges. everything else is gravy. i cannot stress this enough this is a case study in mental illness and how legislation once passed has to filter down and be provided and executed by law enforcement and mental health professionals. >> exactly. vick thanks for jumping in and helping us out. we will continue the breaking news in the other side break. this time we will stay in the middle east u.s. airstrikes again next. nt. even today, only a quarter of stem graduates are women. they'd go, oh, you don't look like an engineer.
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let's go to alex hogan for the ramifications of this. >> we heard in that statement from the u.s. that it is not trying to create a larger conflict. however, the u.s. will not hesitate to protect its people. that being said this comes at a time of course of extremely high tension in the region. it is morning here in israel, so we will likely soon start to hear responses from the israeli government. it's word noting it was brought to us this morning by jennifer griffin that israeli officials were not told before hand this would happen. it comes after a day of large attacks of israeli forces on hamas and by entering gaza with tanks and israel defense ministry mention evidence once that the ground invasion could happen. a lot to watch in the hours ahead. >> we will watch it. let's bring in elliott young whose brother was serving with the israeli defense forces when
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killed by hamas. so sorry to hear about your brother. >> thank you. >> why did he join? >> thanks for having me. so, he always had a love of israel since he was ten years old and he would say i'm going to move to israel come and defend the country and he whenever i moved about ten years ago and so even from a young age in his early teens whenever he saw anything on the news any attacks in israel, any war going on, he would be really concerned and even then i could tell he wanted to help. and obviously the day he died he really did help. >> your sister said on okay 7th your brother responding to his what's app messages. what happened then to the best of your knowledge? >> so, firstly he actually being the boy he is, he actually knew
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there were rockets being fired a tel aviv that day and called her to check on her quickly and then they exchanged some messages and then i think around 7:00, went quiet. and my understanding is that his face was -- space was broke into by terrorists and they knew that was part of defending israel. he did the best he could and sadly didn't make it. >> i love these pictures and you rushed to the hospital where your brother was sent. at the time, did you think it was going to be close? did you know how bad it was? >> the hospital wasn't able to give me too much information. i think mainly [indistinct] i'm not sure, but they said come.
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the hospital is in askelon one of the areas where rockets were continuously being fired. on the drive there, i actually saw missiles flying over my car, so the siren went off a few times and then when i got to the hospital, sadly, i found out i didn't make it in time and while i was there after i found out. there was actually a chaotic siren internally and the hospital was actually hit while i was there. so i think it was a bridge connecting buildings. they managed to evacuate everybody from the area and i was in a safe area but that was obviously added to the stress of the upset of the moment. >> i can imagine.
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we have only got about 25 seconds left elliott. when people ask you about the attack what's the first thing you say? >> there were still, i think everyone needs to realize and see that even though we might, a lot of people might not realize what hamas is capable of. now we have. they have proudly video recorded it. there were videos of them telling their parent how proud of how many jews they killed that day and there was two days ago yesterday i think there was an attempted infiltration by sea. so, it's still ongoing.
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>> welcome back. 7:45 here in jerusalem. we are continuing our breaking news coverage of the united states airstrikes on two syrian targets. let's go back to lucas tomlinson with more on this. lucas. >> well, trace the pentagon is adjusting these strikes as self-defense and after 19 attacks on u.s. forces in the middle east the past ten days the pressure was up in washington, white house pentagon briefing rooms for the u.s. to respond and this morning it happened with a pair of air force f16s struck those targets in eastern syria, the targets ammunition depots use also by iran proxy forces where the ammunition was used to strike back against u.s. forces one
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reason f16s used pentagon saying it was a proportional response. as we heard from the defense secretary he's going to defend his forces and also was clear in the statement about calling out iran by name saying iran is hidden hand here and the u.s. will respond and the pentagon is clear they want this counterattack to be seen as respirate from the ongoing war between israel and hamas but of course that will be difficult for many people to see. >> interesting after october 7th the word iran was seldom used and lucas tomlinson in tel aviv. the number of hostages being held by hamas and million tan groups in gaza strip is 224 even after four were released the past week will brian is live with more in jerusalem with what's being done to bring these people home. >> yes, we know there are negotiations continuing to
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happen with the egyptians the qatar they believed they were close to getting hostages released, but there were a couple of conditions there particularly they believe there shouldn't be escalation. they need a moment of calm which is interesting language from the qa qa qa qataris. as we are starting to see, these attacks over the last couple hours the u.s. in syria the big question we talked about all night is how are the iranians going to responsible and put pressure on hamas to pause negotiations in a mean full way. that's what families have to be thinking about.
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>> families are talking about that and they would wish we would get more time. >> yes and i think what we are starting to hear words like hellfire, israeli airstrikes last 24 hours going into today 5 hamas commanders taken out there has been escalation by israeli forces the first ground raid we have seen to the ex-ten -- extent we have not seen before so all the attacks are leading to escalation. >> welcome to israel. >> thank you. >> next we will have our correspondents back for their final thoughts.
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>> welcome back to continuing coverage on the u.s. strike in syria. let's get some final thoughts from our panel. general to you first, the will iranian proxies stop attacking u.s. servicemembers in the middle east? >> i don't think so, trace and you know, this administration started out equivocating on
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hamas and i'm glad they've gotten clarity on how brutal hamas was the slaughter and i'm glad they've got clarity and took a poll and understand. now they're going to focus on deterring iran and that may eventually trace get these attacks to stop. they've got to figure out where that tipping point is to where they begin to exercise what we call flexible deterrent options and how they escalate. >> colonel, to you, if these attacks by the proxies don't stop we have to up our escalation. where do we up it and how big? >> that's the real issue. this is about escalation management. it's not in our interest to continue to ramp this up so we get into blows with iran. with the presence of the israeli
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hamas war and russia ukraine war trying to support. we cannot get in another war and we have to do whatever can to make sure we don't get into a war while protecting our inin this region. >> can we stay out of the war and will hezbollah stay out of one? >> thing it's inevitable we will be involved one way or another. speed surprise action are ultimately what we have to use to initiate response for some of these groups trying to draw us in a larger con flick so as to deter them from any action. >> but i wonder cameron quickly on that point, the deterrence was given today, if it doesn't work do we deter more? did we deter bigger? >> i think you have to be able to respond appropriately to the
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it's about it. i think we can show and demonstrate that ultimately the united states is not one that should be trifled with lightly. yeah. brian yanez to you. anderson, a kind of a better known the spirit of the israeli people. you got a feel for that today. yeah, no, absolutely. despite everything that the israelis are going through, i'm reporting live as if people are getting dozens of rocket alerts. still, they have family members that are in the reserves. everybody here has been affected in some way, whether they know somebody was wounded, killed in the reserves or is some or is a hostage. there is very little separation and sort of the degree of separation to this crisis. but i'm sitting there doing going live and there is a wedding happening right next to me. a reminder that you push through these moments. that is part of the jewish tradition. life goes on. brian, thank you. general cameron hamilton. colonel, thank you all. thank you all for watching america's late news. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. >> i have moderate to severe crohn's disease now. they're sky crazy. things are looking up.
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