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maine, but a war in israel that started three weeks ago is just getting started. in maine we are minutes away from an update from state officials confirming shooting suspect robert card is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. closure for some, but not for the families of 18 victims still wondering why he did it in the first place and eager to learn what he wrote in that note he left behind. in israel, rapidly expanding ground operation's on and a building u.s. presence in the region. the uss eisenhower carrier has entered the mediterranean and set to join the uss gerald r. ford in a show of force as protests pick up anew all over the world including thousands gathering in london right now in support of palestinians. welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. good to have you on a very, very busy muse day amidst a growing and expanding rumble in israel. we've got you covered on both as we await that press conference.

let's go right to nate foy in lisbon, maine. nate. >> reporter: hey, neil, good morning. after a grueling 48-hour manhunt, this community still devastated, but the healing process is now beginning after the man who police say was behind maine's worst mass shooting ever, his body was found at 7:45 last night. take a live look at our fox news drone, police found his body at a recycling facility where he used to work reportedly near a dumpster, so this is the area that you're looking at right now. to give you your bearing, we're about 10 miles from the bowling alley, 8 miles from the bar where police say robert card murdered 18 people and injured 13 more. we're just 1 mile from the lis con boat launch -- lis lisbon boat lawn. authorities have card's cell phone and a note found during a search of his home. even though manhunt is now over, investigators still have a lot of work to do collecting and processing evidence.

>> -- and information but also slow things down a little bit because we need to looked at a video evidence, we need to look at the various pieces of technology that are in play here in hopes that that give us some additional information around some of the things you're going to be concernedded about. >> reporter: neil, take a look at this, here are the victims of wednesday's mass shooting. they range in age from 4 to 7 -- 14 to the 76 years old. we spoke with the cousin of a man who was killed at the bowling alley with his 14-year-old son. the cousin tells us bill young is his name, the father, was always trying to make everybody laugh and was a dedicated family man, just 32 of the 18 people -- 2 of the 18 people whose lives were taken senselessly farah too soon. we're still waiting on news conference any moment now, neil. there are many questions, as you said right off the top, about how and why this happened. so even though there is relief

that the manhunt is over, there's sill so many questions and, hopefully, we'll get some answers in this this news conference coming up momentarily. neil: hopefully, indeed. nate, thank you very much, my friend. nate foy in maine. again, we'll go to that press conference as soon as it gets under way. bill daley with us, former fbi investigator. bill, obviously, the developments overnight are that he took his own life. we don't know exactly when he took it, we don't know exactly what's in that note that he left behind for his son. how do you piece or try to piece a lot of this together? >> well, neil, first of all, thanks for having me on this morning. you know, i think as you first touched on, this story, you know, there's relief, there's grief and there's despair in that community. and the despair's understanding what really happened. and it's not just what happened at the two venues where the shootings took place, but what happened before. why weren't any trip wires in place if it turns out to be that he was under medical supervision or he'd gone in for treatment for some emotional, medical

issues back this past summer. but as far as investigators piecing this together, you know, when these incidents occur, you know, we sometimes look at it, you know, from aa far, we start to try to piece this thing together being, you know, armchair pundits, but the reality is that they walk into something that's almost like this life and death game of clue. who is this person, put them into focus, find out a bit more about them and then try to understand, particularly in this case, you know, what was he doing afterwards? was there a plan for him to the try to escape? they didn't mow that. and only as more things came about, and i believe it was probably that note combined with the cell phone, there were some other indications i think early yesterday that they were focusing their search on the community area and not saying that that he's gone out of the state or he's trying to escape into some far distant location. i think at that point they were focusing on putting divers in the water thinking that perhaps he took his life down by that boat ramp, and then the search

expanded, neil, found him in this kind of, i think, wooded trail area not too far away from where he actually worked. neil: indeed, that recycling center from which he was fired i believe a few weeks ago was just a short walk away. i'm wondering if that had anything to do with this. there's so much we don't know. but how do they start piecing things together or whether it was his intent to kill 18 people, whether some were just sort of collateral damage and he was targeting just a few. we have since learned that he used to go there with a girlfriend to both locations, the bowling alley and the bar. maybe that had something to do with it. but again, it's a big unknown. >> it's a big unknown, and what will happen is that as a result of any of these tragic incidents, actually one of roles the fbi plays is they bring in their behavioral analysis team. they study these cases, they try to piece together kind of the mindset of the individual, you

know? as you just mentioned, perhaps it was him being let go from his work but combined maybe with either his mental condition, maybe medication he may have been on, that all of a sudden he reacted and he reacted out against maybe locations or even people who he knew, perhaps felt maybe responsible for him losing his job or his life being in a downward spiral. so it is something that they'll space e piece -- piece together. they tie to learn from these and be in some way a bit predictive when the authorities and the fbi's aware that somebody may be a potential threat, try to put that person, again, better in focus so maybe they can intercede before something tragic like this happens. neil: you know, you and i have chatted so often a, bill, after these type of tragedies. and we always sort of recount the red flags that were out there, the issues that were known, the indications that card was hearing voices, that he had anger management issues, that he had just been fired from his

job, that he was not happy about it. but we don't piece them together until well after the fact. but there is a pattern to this. >> yeah, certainly, neil, as you just said over the years we've looked at these cases both as they're evolving and even post the incidents. there seems to be some kind of pattern, someone, somewhere along the way with either thought, saw or heard something that gave them concern, and either they didn't take the proper action, didn't take any action, and these incidents unfold. if you know, it does kind of call into, you know, what needs to be looked at, in my view, you know, we often hear kind of a lightning rod of banning assault weapons or trying to control the guns. to me, it really is this other side of it. s it really is these -- in maine, for example, it's a yellow flag law, it's really to make them much more comprehensive. making sure there's due process, we have a strong second

amendment right in this country, and they need to be protected. but you need to make sure that people can report these incidents or these concerns to authorities and have those processes move very quickly whether people shouldn't have access to weapons from the get go or should they have a weapon removed from them should they be suffering some mental or other issue that should prevent them from having, again, through due process. but i think, you know, again, the focus often talks about limiting the number of bullets in the magazine or limiting the weapon. i can just tell you from a personal if standpoint a number of years ago there was a tragic shooting not too far away from where i am, and one of my neighbors was attacked, one of the people who was shot and injured, but six people were killed on a railroad train here, 18 others, 18 others, i think, injured. and that took place in two minutes with a handgun, with a semiautomatic, you know, weapon. we're talking about the weapons, weapons whether they, you know, look more fearful, when they can

shoot more, sometimes that's not the issue as much as it's really the person who has access to them. and if in this case, there's a lot of reflection, a lot of kind of digging through and finding out what trip wires may have been missed or if they weren't missed, why weren't they act on. neil: you know, i fully recognize the second amendment and its importance in our country, but this is the 36th mass shooting we've seen this year, as you know, bill. and i know there are some distinction 2006 -- distinctions drawn between the guns and people who shouldn't have their hands on those guns and others between cabrera-bello flag warnings and red flag warnings, i guess it would be such that authorities would come in and take all your weapons. that was not the case in maine, i believe. so i wonder if we all have to get on the same page in this. i think most people would agree that those with serious mental issues shouldn't have them in the first place, or if they're

exhibiting real stress the, you know, a guy hearing voices, anger management issues, you know, that this then reaches a level of which authorities should intercede, take your guns. i know the immediate knee-jerk fear don't touch my guns, but this isn't talking to people who have every right to use them and the overwhelming majority of those who do, but this is a clear case of someone who might have gotten them under better circumstances, but the circumstances changedded. changed. >> yeah. and, neil, to that point, you know, there are federal laws. people have been committed, mentally committed to an institution the, shouldn't have access and shouldn't be able to the purchase a weapon. we have, you know, as you mentioned, you know, red flag laws, yellow flag laws. we also have people who, as we know more recently in the news about people who are having, on drugs should not have access to weapons. so all these various components that we speak about, but it

appears as though they never really kind of fully integrated and never fully kind of robustly examine, put into practice. and i think that's what we're seeing here. i'm not dismissing the fact that, you know, we certainly have a, as i said, a due process and a right under the second amendment, but we need to be looking at these things very carefully because all of these things as we start looking at them have some nexus back to either temporary mental breakdown or issue or something that has been preceding it that people either didn't want to report or didn't feel comfortable reporting a loved one, someone in the family or a coworker or a neighbor. but we need to kind of get beyond that and realize that this is kind of the nexus of what these issues are as it's kind of getting out ahead of it and being able to react and being able to, you know, prevent it. the only way you know that is when you're add a vised that somebody could be a threat and

for police authorities to act accordingly. neil: you know, you've been great helping us here, bill. if you'll indulge me and our viewers, we are expecting a presser out of maine right now. the details, some of which you've already heard by now that robert card and his body found near a live about 10 miles from lewiston, maine, where where all of these killings occurred. they are self-inflicted gunshot wounds, we are told. we don't know at what time he might have taken his life, whether it was the last night or before. we're at waiting to find out what might have been in that note he left for his son. they start poring through that, any of his internet records, social media records. limited though we're told they are. so we're waiting for that. one quick thing, bill. as a former fbish s investigator, we know the fbi was working with local, statement police officials in piecing together a lot of things. there's always a fear that this is wider. ale quickly, the thought that this was wider than it appear.

>> in the sense that, neil, it was wider is that more people involved or other -- neil: exactly. >> we think -- yeah. so the fbi's role in these cases, they start off as being state crimes, you know, capital offenses, murder offenses, and as a result, their responsibility is to come in and bring various resources to support local authorities. neil all right. >> and i think we're going to go to -- neil: i'm jumping on you, my friend. let's go to this presser. >> -- in the afternoon a conversation for the consideration of the four deaf victims and their family, we are requesting that the asl interpreter is in all frames. for language access here in maine and the u.s. they are grieving and have a right to know the latest information in asl. thank you for that. if -- all right. we do appreciate your patience and your professionalism. i know you've been with us now for a few days away from your families, tucked in here in

lewiston working with us. so we're going to go ahead and kind of focus again on the operational side of the house. it's intended that i'm your only speaker for this morning. i suppose if we do get some q&a that somebody else, i think, can answer readily we'll do that, and we'll do the best we can for you and for the state of maine and the community here. so i do want to start right at 7:45 last night when mr. card was located deceased from a self-inflicted gun shot wound. ask that did occur at a the maine recycling corporation, and that's at 61 capital avenue in lisbon. and we're going to try to put that right up here on the screen. the audio e-visual's a little better than the chalkboard we had on day one. so this should show a map, a google map location of where the

maine recycling corporation is located at. and i wanted to show this, this is the primary reason that we're late, because we were trying to get this switched over from google maps to something that the you could utilize. so when you look at this, there's a triangle here, stop right there. yeah, exactly. that triangle is, in fact, the maine recycling corporation. and if we go down across capital avenue to where that circle is, that's overflow parking location where he was found deceased in a trail. so, and i think that's important because we were asked some good questions last night that we did not have the answers to at that point. so that particular location was cleared twice previously, and it was cleared many that triangle. it was cleared where the business is located, and that was cleared by chief mcgee and the lisbon police department and individuals there earlier and a joint or combination tactical team later in the afternoon. the owner of that facility did a

gate job because he was, like, you know, this individual knows the property, he could be tuck thed in the back of one of these trailers because they're full of recycled metal and all this stuff. he could crawl over the top. we cleared the trailers. we cleared trailers that are there on that business footprint. nobody had any idea that across the street, across capital avenue there's an overflow parking lot which is recycling corporation property. so the owner was very diligent to say but did you clear those trailers. what trail thers are you talking about. so then the follow-up is with the tactical team commanders to say, okay, tell me exactly where you were at. and they were doing the same thing. we were looking at our timeline, we cleared trailers, we didn't clear those. let's go back. so the maine state police tactical team, ultimately, were the ones that located the body within one of those trailers. and this is a tractor-trailer style. you know, you pick -- picture that 18-wheeler, a box trailer

is where he was located, right in the back of that. some of those trailers are locked, some of those trailers aren't. so he was found merchandise one of those boxes concern inside one of those boxes that was unlocked from the outside. and you can probably picture that from just your experience on the street, right in you've seen those kinds of things before. so that's where we found the body last night. a little bit of updates in that regard, we're going to be there probably through the end of the day making sure that we process that particular scene. and we'll also be at the bar and grill and the bowling alley probably through the rest of the weekend. we're currently working that now, and is we will definitely be working that tomorrow. and at this point that is heavily resource by evidence response team members, so ets, are processing physical evidence at those locations. again, as we've discussed, this is a reason for that. a lot of material still there to work with.

so we expect that we'll work through the weekend there. i would also just tell you that the behind the scenes stuff is very intense i have manhunt -- intensive manhunt, an incredible amount of resources invested. once he's located last night, truth be told, we got some people some rest. hopefully you got some sleep last night. so we sent some people home. they're back in this morning, all in for today to. we're going to seven them back to get some rest tomorrow, he can see hair families and be back in on monday, the entire team to include our partners which i am going to take more time today to make sure that i acknowledge everybody that i can. they'll be back in on monday to continue their work whether it's scene cleanup, the continuing to do interviews. overall, we received 821-ish as of a little while ago tips and leads, so we continue to work those. the digital tip line, that video tip line that you were so helpful in putting the

information out on, ultimately we're at 197 of those leads, and that's information that was uploaded to that system. and about a dozen or so search warrants that are completed, so signed and impounded. impounded meaning you wouldn't have access to them at this point. but given the circumstances here, right, because we don't envision a trial of any sort for anybody that's involved here, the release of information i would expect after those affidavits, that impound, there's going to be a lot of information that's going to be there for you down the road. again, we'll try to do the best we can today now that that piece of this event is done and he's been found. we're certainly able to answer additional questions. everything we say can be interpreted by a suspect. they just said this about me, i'm going to go do that. and, again, based on the violent nature of what occurred here, traumatic incidents that

occurred here in lewiston, we were certainly concerned right to the last second that we didn't know what this individual was going to do next or where he was going to do it. so we needed to be very cautious about that. we also need to be very cautious when you talk about trials what information, is so mike's at the podium and he said this, and then at trial two years later can't you say this and now you think this because you found it in a cell phone. all those things we need to be sure we're not being prejudicial for trials and for the court process. so again from our end, about a dozen or so of those warrants and everybody will continue to work on that. i think there's some additional information that i mentioned i was going to speak to you about today, and that is the addition can of a family assistance center. and that family assistance center is going to be located at the lewiston armory, 65 central avenue right here in lewiston. so 65 central avenue.

and that's intended to be a one-stop shop kind of thing, one central space for victims and their support persons to gather so that they don't have to make multiple stops for multiple different agencies to seek assistance. now, this particular location is open for individuals who were present at shooting site. so whether you were a victim, physically stating that you were injured during this event, or you were there and traumatized. in either one of those situations, the family assistance center will be a good spot for those individuals to go. i will say, this is probably again common sense, but the media will not be allowed to enter the family assistance center. we want these folks focused on healing, not on am i on camera, what are people going to think, i don't want anybody to know i was there. so if you could do me a favor and help me out with that, that would be greatly appreciated. now, that's state police are

working with the maine attorney general's office, the red cross, the fbi victim services division who have been incredible, and they're opening that space. that space actually opened this morning at 10, and they're going to be the operational for the foreseeable future from 10 is a.m. to the 7 p.m. at the lewiston armory at 65 central avenue. a separate location or a separate site providing mental health assistance, and that's going to be located at the rah ramada inn here in lewiston, and that's created for the larger community. so again as we've discussed, you have the scene, but the entire city is a scene, right? people are traumatized. i know somebody that knows somebody that knows something, or i've walked by, i bowl there, that want wasn't my night, but you want to talk to somebody about that, that's at the ramada inn. not necessarily a specific victim of what occurred or somebody that was present when this occurred. i mention that in this setting because as these things evolve is, we have an investigation, and now this will slowly involve

over to a wellness and a resiliency conversation for the community and for the victims and others. and that's the information that we want to make sure that folks are getting so that they can receive the help that they need. i would also say that once we clear these scenes, and i want to make sure i acknowledge this individual, mike hall ran who's -- halloran who's a are retired police officer owns a trauma service clean-up company, and mike gives us a shout and says, you know, when you clear those scenes, i'm willing to come up and donate the services of my company to chien all of these crime -- clean all of these crime scenes which, as you can imagine -- or probably can't imagine -- is incredibly traumatic process to begin with. so we clear the scenes, we have all the evidence that we need, this company is going to come up, the trauma service clean-up company with mike halloran, they'll do the cleanups, and then we'll release those locations back to the owners so that they're not forced to deal

with that first thing when they walk back into something, their hope and dreams is to i always wanted to open a bar, and they're going to be surrounded by the chaoses that would have occurred that evening. that's probably early next week. i gave you a little bit of information, referenced the detectives, the major crime units and and all of our federal partners that are working with us this. we will be transitioning from our current command post back to the lewiston police department. as you might imagine, the parking lot was a little bit different today than it was yesterday, right in so our command post, the next big step for the incident if management team is to kind of demobilize. i think when these things happen, the first piece is we don't have enough people to do the work we need to do, and the second piece is we have so many people to do the work that we do, how can we track them, where are they at and are they safe. we're going to be fully invested in the demobilization of that location and the personnel that are involved throughout today

and into tomorrow. so i do want to touch on a couple other questions that have been asked along the way, and with clearance from our prosecutors and our detectives we're certainly more comfortable answering now based on the current outcome of what happened last night. so one thing, there's been a number of completely legitimate questions about a note that was found in his residence. so this is a paper-style note. i'm not going to read it to you verbatim the, but whats it is, is it's a mote to a loved one -- note to a loved one, and it's saying this is the pass code for my phone, this is the bank account numbers, and i wouldn't describe it as a explicit suicide note, but the tone and tenor was that the individual was not going to be around and

wanted to make sure that this loved one had access to his phone and whatever was in that that phone. we're working on that now to get into the phone, that's one of the search warrants, a specialized skill that our people have, and then the bank codes. that's not uncommon in suicide situations. you get long notes, you get various setup scenarios, but that's something that you asked about and i do appreciate it and, again, we can talk about that the a little more now. there was a firearm found in the white subaru station wagon. that was a long gun style. i don't have the make and model, you could ask me is that an remarks-15, i don't know that, but -- ar-15, but i was asked specifically did we find a gun in the car, and we did. that was a long gun. and to my understanding, that was the only firearm that was found inside the car at that time. i would expect, again based on the investigation and the yacht

come -- outcome, that when these impounded affidavits are released, there'll be search warrant lists, and they'll is have all kinds of stuff, what did we find, how many of this, how many of that. so that'll be much more detailed. did you find guns in the house, did you find guns on him. so that is something that we have been with, that we've been asked about, and i wanted to make sure that we covered that as well. another question that i've had some conversations around this morning, you know, if you talk about is there a motive here, right? i think, clearly, there's a mental health component to this. we still need to do some research, and i'm trying to get access to certain records ask and things of that nature. again, you can probably imagine it's not just as simple as just calling somebody, can you send me this thing. but what i would say is based on what i've heard through conversations this morning, i

don't see or i'm told that we don't have access to the any forcibly committed for treatment information referenced to mr. card, okay? so you can volunteer, as an example, to go to a facility and seek treatment for months on end. but if you're not forcibly committed to seek that treatment, and it's very specific to treatment, right? not forcibly taken for an evaluation, an evaluation is completely different than treatment. so there are a lot of very specific criteria around firearms, are you a possessed person or prohibited person, rather k if what that looks like. so in this scenario, we have not seen to this point, i have not seen to this point that mr. card was forcibly committed for amendment to. and -- for treatment. and if that didn't happen, then the next check, you can go into a firearms dealer who does all of their work and the background check is not going to ping on if

this individual was prohibited. and something that's incredibly important for us to say, for me to say and i find myself saying it on a regular basis, just because there appears to be a mental health nexus to this scenario, the vast, vast, vast majority of people, the vast majority of people with mental health diagnosis will never hurt anybody. they won't hurt themselves, they're not a danger to the community. based on percentages alone, there's a bunch of folks in here that have a mental health diagnosis. i know law enforcement officers that have a mental health diagnosis. that doesn't mean they're a danger to their community. we certainly have people that reach that crisis level where that does occur, and we deal with those folks on a regular basis. sometimes through involuntarily, forcible commitments, right? and sometimes the not. sometimes there's different levels of that a mental health system, and that's a whole different can conversation that can be quite lengthy, and i can tell you that law enforcement has been involved at this point for decades and heavily involved

over the last 15 years or so. so i think that that is the information that i know i wanted to come back and give you, and i would also just say again that there's information that we think we can give lawfully and through our subject experts around prosecutions and all these other things. i may want to tell you something, but i can't tell you. and that's been the nature of if beast along the way. i also want to mention this, this is a big deal. i was asked about cooperation of the family at one point. and this family has been incredibly cooperative with us. truth be told, i think the first three people that called us to positively identify this individual based on the photos that were released were family

members. and, unfortunately, what happens in a scenario like this is that this happens, they're connected to this family, and that family has taken a great deal of grief to include threats, you know, people hanging out at their houses and say did they know, is it their fault, are they enabling, all of those things. our investigation would have been incredibly, it would have been detrimental if they can't come forward immediately to let us know who this individual was and how difficult a decision is that to make when you've lost this this many people, t it's not that difficult. but you can imagine my family member was involved in that traumatic event, and i want to let people know. so they should be acknowledged in that. again, i won't specify exactly who the family member members were, but as a whole, we found hem to be very, very cooperate i have. cooperative. i will also state that, you know, from an after-action

perspective you can imagine that all of the law enforcement officers, the various agencies involved, the arrest of the public safety -- rest of the public safety world, we will be having a number of after-action reports, lessons learned. we don't want this to happen to anybody ever again, but we've learned a lot as a state from other communities around the country where this has happened. other communities internationally where these things have happened. and they put out best practices, this happened and what are we going to do next. so i would expect those things to continue. none of the entities involved in that, certainly not the department of public safety, are regulatory authorities like, hey, we have the authority over what happened over here and we're going to act on that. so there's a time and place for all of those things to include that mental health system, there's a military component, all those different things which has their own networks to to regulate and make sure that they're checking their own processes. and i think that's, in this' rightfully so.

so i think what i want to make sure i do, and i want to make sure we switch that screen back over to that victim screen to make sure that we all remember why we're here and why we do the work that we do. and i also want to state that because i think when we leave here today, i'm not expecting future briefings or anything else, and i don't want to leave our partners out of this. i've discussed them every time we've talked. but if you talk about chief mcgee and the lisbon police department, all the work that they've done, the strong focus on lisbon kind of morphed over -- or lewiston and morphed over to lisbon with the finding of the vehicle. but chief mcgee and his team and his community have really, really stepped up across the board, and they deserve a lot of credit as a strong partner through this entire thing. and the new hampshire state police, i can't tell you, i mean, that helicopter was flying over us very, very quickly, and there is new hampshire state

police and tactical teams, detectives, command staff members that came to us immediately, you know, across border. from from our federal partnerships, you know what happens in these is that everybody's got incredibly long titles that are accurate and they mean a whole lot, but when you talk about the atf, you talk about hsi, you talk about dea, you talk about the fbi, you talk about we're down to first name deals, right in you talk about kevin, jim, mike, you talk about joey, that's where we are now, right? and it's going to be valuable in the future to have that first name basis in case something else happens, you know, across the board. and certainly, the maine state police as the lead major crimes and investigators on the scenario have been in the forefront of this since the very, very beginning. and, you know, we have our elected officials here from various communities. we have irk fw, my fellow commissioner judy is here. let's not forget that hunting is

open today. i want to make sure that we discuss that for sure. and i guess i would just close on that, on the acknowledgment, again, of chief st. pierre and the work the that he and his team have done. they've made their community proud, they've a made the state of maine proud, and we're luck lucky the them as part of the department of public safety. so with that this in mind, i'm going to try to do some q&a. i wrote myself a note, i'm supposed to repeat the question before i answer because nobody can hear. right here, ma'am. >> [inaudible] >> i can't identify any of the vix at this point. my understanding is the last update that i received there were three people in critical care, and i don't have any more specifics referenced to the remaining ten in that scenario. and as you might imagine, these individuals passed away because of this crime, and these other

folks have to live with it the rest of their lives. i'm not sure that they want to be identified in a sense. we've had victims' families with media members and others parked across the street. they feel nervous, they feel scared, so we're not in a position that we're going to identify hem. sir, right here. yeah. >> [inaudible] why did the suspect target the bowlingal alley -- the. [inaudible] >> i would say that the mental health aspect of this, there's a piece of that where there's paranoia, there's some conspiracy theorists piece that i think what i've read and what i've seen is that the individual felt like people were talking about him. it may even appear that there were some voices in play here. and we don't believe that any of that is accurate, and i think that led them -- him specifically back to those two the specific locations, and it also led us to where's he going next. he used to work here, he used to be there and what's that

ultimately going to look like. so i think that's a valid question. right here. >> [inaudible] >> there was an employment relationship there at some point. i don't know if he was currently employed or not, and i don't think i'm in a position to answer that. i would kind of lean towards the business owner, and he's been part of this very forthcoming that got him, got us back to that location, so i don't want to speak on his behalf of exactly where mr. card or what his status was at the edge. i don't know that yet, and i think that comes down to the autopsy in many ways. they say, you know, he passed away of this, cause or manner of death, and then they'll be able to give a range of some sort of how long he's been passed away. but i don't know how exactly tight that's going to be. sir, did you have a question? that was the one, all right. twofer. me -- yes, ma'am. >> [inaudible] the condition of the body when

you found it -- [inaudible] >> yeah, sure. so, you know, from a discovery standpoint, the status of the body itself, when your talking about -- you're talking about a few days, there's not a great deal of decomposition in that time frame. so it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound. i will tell you there was a couple of firearms found at the scene. i won't be able to tell you exactly what that was. the one picture that i saw looked like he had the same sweatshirt on that he had, the picture we put out at the bowling alley, that appeared to be the sweatshirt he was wearing at that time. he was found closer to the sliding door component of the trailer, so he wasn't buried back further. when that happened, you know, when he took his own life, i don't know the answer to that. and, again, we'll probably have a range from the medical examiner's office, but not

something i know right now. >> [inaudible] how he was able to evade so many law enforcement partners -- [inaudible] >> yeah, super question. so again, a bit of an anomaly from a scenario, right in we have two locations, he escaped both, parks his car someplace else. i want that picture to stay up there, but if you looked at that google map, from the lisbon, the lisbon location, but i'm going to screw up the boat launch terminology, what is that again, ryan? >> [inaudible] >> so that trail actually runs from that boat launch all the way along the river, and you can see it on that google map. so that comes all the way down along the river, and that overflow parking lot is there, again, next to a business that he's familiar with as well. so there is a natural connection. is that planned, is that not planned, is that a location of

vanes? i don't know the answer to that -- convenience? if i don't know the answer to that, but that's how it went back. right in the back, ma'am. >> so going back -- [inaudible] searched the night before -- [inaudible] had that area specifically been searched before in. >> no, that one had not. yes, sir. >> thank you very much. you just said -- [inaudible] found with his body. so can you just clarify, does that mean there were three firearms on -- one in the car and then two on his body? >> yes. one in the car, two on his body. >> and can you give out any details, the one in the car you said was a long gun -- >> it was a rifle of some sort. i don't have that information. they're still working that scene, so that's not something i'll clarify for you. right here, ma'am. i'm going to try to get to everybody if everybody's cooperative, and we'll try to get as many -- >> [inaudible]

>> and i just read my note that said repeat the question, which i haven't done yet. so can you can ask that one more time? >> can you cop firm -- [inaudible] video of the suspect playing corn hole at the bar in. >> is there video or can with we confirm there's video of the suspect playing cornhole at the bar? no, i have not seen that. there's a lot of video yet to view from the low -- locations as well as those 197 -- i don't know how often this individual frequented the bar, if there's a time stamp on what would have occurred, i don't know the answer to that at all. >> [inaudible] >> i think that there's the a connection to all of those locations. i think both of those spots -- i will tell you from a community standpoint, a lot of people in this community were familiar with both spots, right in so this thing happens and everybody's, like, i was there

once before. my family visits that spot. so there was a lot of that that was going on. and i do believe there's a connection as if this gentleman had been in both of those spots. want to give it another shot? >> you aren't talked a lot what he was doing in the hours leading up to the shooting. did he case the locations at all? was he driving around? [inaudible] >> so we haven't focused a lot of time on the time frame leading up to the crimes themselves and, no, i really can't flesh that out. i to think that what happens from here is those neighborhood canvass and is we say, okay, so this happened, we know this call came in at 6:56, we know that call came in at 7:08, can we follow that suspect vehicle, that white suable' station wagon, can we track that with video in a hundred different locations. i've seen those ring cams, convenience store, someplace out

front, and we time gap that so we know exactly what happened and then we left this location in that car, we know somehow we ended up at the boat launch. can we try to figure out what that looks like? so i don't know i don't have any information. was he casing the place that day, or cleary he had some -- clearly he had some knowledge of these locations previously, however. >> [inaudible] >> of course, yeah, absolutely. that's part of that, again, he's, he's dead, we know where he's located at, we can start working with our victims and also start digging in on all of these other things. sir? >> yeah. so did you say you -- [inaudible] >> this is none that i'm aware of. we've had people check that have told me they haven't found those. so if they exist, i'm sure we'll continue to dig and try to find them, but i haven't found them. >> [inaudible] may have been from the local -- [inaudible] how will you hold those

responsible? >> so that's a pretty good hypothetical from whoever your source is. we'll have to look at the actual snapshot in time. the yellow flag law in the state of maine is very specific about an individual who's in protective custody from law enforcement to begin with. and do we have probable cause to believe that they are in possession, they could be in possession of a dangerous weapon. so if we meet those criteria, then you can take it individually and for a yellow flag assessment, a weapons restriction order assessment, and at that time your criteria change from a likelihood of serious harm to likelihood of foreseeable harm. there's a little -- the it's close. >> i guess my broader question would be will you work to try to prevent -- [inaudible] >> i would tell you that the weapons restriction -- has been utilized 82 times at this point. it went into effect on july 1 of 2020. i know that because i read every single one of those reports and am involved in that process on a

regular basis, just gave a presentation last friday to a group of social workers to make sure that we're putting that information out there as much as a humanly possible. it has been effective to this point, and it's certainly something that we're always looking at can we tweak it, can we make things better, but it has been utilized, and to this point it is being effective. ma'am, you had a question? >> you talk about the -- [inaudible] component, is there any other aspect that you can tell us about for possible motive that led to him targeting the bowling alley and then the bar? >> i think that what we know is we have a lot of work yet to do on phones and technology. are we going to find a concrete motive that says this is what i'm going to do and this is why. at this point we certainly mow that a there's a strong mental health cloud over this, what happened. the tragic scenarios at both of those locations. we know that there's definitely a mental health nexus to that. specifically is there9 another

reason? talking about paranoia, you're talking about individuals in crisis, there's a lot there. what was actually happening versus what they perceived to be happening. so all of those things are definitely on our radar, but -- in the back, ma'am, and then i'm going to.com up to you, sir -- >> [inaudible] the owner of the recycling center saying, hey -- [inaudible] and then you also confirmed he -- [inaudible] walked the trail to the -- [inaudible] >> so the two the questions there, did we have additional leads, a reference to the overflow lot where he was ultimately located, and can we confirm that he walked. number two, we haven't found a vehicle or any other, a bicycle or -- there's no other information to lead us to believe that there was mig but walking down. i suppose something could happen to the lead us in that direction. so whatever that is, 800 and some leads and tips, the primary reason that we were back in that

location is because i will say this, community policing from a relationship standpoint, the owner of a business calls his police chief and says, hey, you know, i want somebody to make sure that they're clearing that. that's good cop 01, right? -- 101, right? you have an automatic connection with somebody in your community. that's why the additional follow-ups occurred, because we had searched and documented, there's logs and all this stuff about when we were there, who was there, what did they do which allowed us to do the follow-up work to say can did you check across street? what's across the street? there's a dozen businesses that surround this thing and nothing that says that's the recycling corporation. so the owner was diligent as was chief mcgee in a passing that information on to the command post and, ultimately, being checked. sir, right here. >> [inaudible] were they used to try and pick up his scent before, before thin

the trailer -- [inaudible] >> yep. >> [inaudible] there were k-9s used to rye and pick up the scent? >> i don't know the specific answer to that. i would think they would be, but i don't want to give guess. k-9s are a standard part of we lost somebody here, where did the they go. we have tactical k-9s attached to those teams. we have a lot of great dogs out there the working the streets, so i don't know the answer but i can only imagine that,s sure, they would do that. did you have another question? >> [inaudible] >> we have not. there's been no additional information. however, we know that there were two specific target locations. he did go one to the other. he ditched his car in a specific spot. again, maybe we'll find additional information in one of

these devices that says this is what my plan was. all we can do is rook at what actually -- look at what actually occurred. so there's nothing there. how long was it planned, what does it look like, i don't know that right now. ma'am, did you have a question in the back? some. >> [inaudible] >> how exactly did he die? so the question was how exactly did he pass away, and that was a self-inflicted gunshot wound, is the apparent reason for his death. >> [inaudible] >> i won't give a specific location can, i don't think, for today. ma'am, right here. >> in terms of -- [inaudible] >> yeah. so i've heard through the weekend at both of those locations and then we'll transition over the that cleaning, some of that other information. sir? >> [inaudible] how many of those have been executed? what's the state of --

[inaudible] >> i don't have information there because one may be a search warrant on a cell phone, right many one may be a house. and so i don't have a breakdown of exactly what warrants are going where and what that looks like. some of those have been served, some of those we have and they're kind of in the queue as part of a punch list, this is where we're going next, this is what we're doing. absolutely, they're still working on it. >> [inaudible] >> i can't speak to that specifically. i think that would speak to premeditation and something as a motive above and beyond the mental health crisis that we know exists. but with all of those follow-ups continue because you have the victims themselves, clearly, that have passed away, but we're also august to everybody that he ever -- talking to everybody that he knew, right? somebody he worked with, somebody in the military, what did you know and how. so that continues.

sir? >> i want to get back to the -- [inaudible] >> okay. >> -- i've spent a lot of time in lisbon and -- [inaudible] >> right. >> and -- sit here today do you think -- [inaudible] more thorough search done in that location whether it's -- [inaudible] because i saw the chief out there, his officers on their own doing a lot of searches. the question -- [inaudible] more resources surged into that area because it seemed like one trail was just missed -- [inaudible] we didn't really see a surge of resources into that area, you know? there was much -- [inaudible] >> right. so -- >> [inaudible] thinking about that now. because -- [inaudible] i mean, people were in tears going to the supermarket to sho-

[inaudible] >> yeah. so the question is, do we think now we should have surged additional resources to that area, either those two searches or otherwise. and i think we had a great deal of resources in play. i think we had resources all over the place, resources that maybe you saw, maybe you didn't see 24/7 $ 365 out on the street. i know chief mcgee was working with fellow chiefs to bring him additional resources. i've seen that e-mail string like, hey, we're trying to have two-person cars from a safety perspective. we want to make sure we're properly staffed across the board. that search that chief mcgee led was because one of his officers found an open door to that facility, right? so that's what's happening. people go to bed, whether they can sleep or not, and all night long there are police officers crawling through their neighborhoods looking at these businesses, looking at their

backyards, trying to make sure that everybody's safe. is so i will, you know, for the rest of my life be, you know, looking at this event and saying could we have done this different, could we do that different. i think we had resources in play, and our hearts go out -- the reason we do this work is because of the trauma that is caused to our communities, all communities, when these things happen. so it's a completely legitimate question but not one that i think was resource-intensive for that particular area. sir in the middle. why don't you follow up. go ahead, i'll give you that one. >> [inaudible] would suggest lisbon -- [inaudible] >> no. >> [inaudible] >> yep. so chief mcbee led that one search, and then there was also a combined tactical team that did an additional search. but, again, the reason that we were late and we wanted to put that map up there is because if i told you, well, they didn't know about the overflow location, i wanted to be able to show you why that is, right? there's a business here, you

crosses the road, there's this overflow parking lot that i don't think me personally would have, can can actually connected that this business is connected to that. if it's all in the same lot -- because these tactical team commanders, as an example, well,ing did you check trailers,9 and the answer is, yeah, we checked the trailers that were there. and the owner, again being diligent and knowing his property, did you check those trailers? which trailers? those across the road, across central avenue, and the answer was, no, we didn't go over there, that's not what we were there to do. so i think they did their due diligence across the board. sir, in the middle. >> thank you -- >> sure. >> i guess what i wanted to ask you in terms of that note, is there a timeline of what -- when you think that may have been -- [inaudible] and then secondly on that a trailer, do you think he may have been in the woods and doubled back there? [inaudible] he wasn't there?

>> so i think two different questions there, one referenced the timing of the note and then how we got to that trailer, when he got to that trailer. all we can say for the note component of this is simply saying that we know when the initial shooting happened. i think as we try to backtrack through his day, which was an earlier question, can we, can we identify where he was at a certain time in comparison to the shooting at 6:56 and then know in the middle, so he muffed had it there at some point -- he must have had it there at some point. maybe there's a technology piece of this. the phone stopped moving in a certain spot, maybe there's additional information there. when he went to the trailer, how he got to the trailer, i would like to think that we're going to get some additional information there, but i haven't seen it yet. and we're going to continue to work it. so, yes, right here. >> did mr. card have the -- [inaudible] in the law enforcement area -- [inaudible] >> somebody has told me that

there was an oui investigation from, like, 2007. but i'm not going to go in depth because i don't know enough about that. i don't want to, i don't want to lead you astray or give you the wrong information, and that question was referenced to interaction with law enforcement as well as criminal history. sir? >> [inaudible] >> sure. >> question for -- [inaudible] can you either tell us or maybe the commissioner can tell us -- [inaudible] firearms that were recovered and whether -- [inaudible] >> so i think that the reality is we'll have that information as part of the search warrants and as part of the investigation. i don't have it right now. that's my failing, not the atf's. we will go to the atf to say when were these firearms purchased and who purchased them. we'll know that initial component. that's a standard check that law enforcement do every time that a firearm is involved in an incident -- >> [inaudible] >> yep. >> [inaudible] >> they can give you the same exact answer if you like.

would you like to answer that? >> so as far as the firearms, as far as i don't want to misidentify models or makes, but what i can tell you as far as the firearms that that have been recovered, they do appear to be purchased by him. >> [inaudible] >> legal wily purchased. >> [inaudible] this incident, we got some information that there's -- [inaudible] >> yes, some days before with, some -- there's been a number of firearms recovered as part of in this investigation, and some of them have been purchase very recently, and some of them years and years ago. >> thanks. >> yes, sir, right there with the hat. yep. >> just a quick question. how many trailers are in that overflow lot, and do you know how many were locked and unlocked -- [inaudible] >> 55 or 60 trailers that are parked back there. i don't know how many are locked versus unlocked. >> [inaudible] how long did that take to go

through -- [inaudible] >> so i think the reality there is that these offices in the first three trailers located him, the tactical team ultimately located him in, i think, that third trailer. do you have a question, ma'am? >> [inaudible] just about -- [inaudible] can can you talk about when you -- [inaudible] >> so i don't know, chief, do you know? do you want to step the up and answer that? >> so as far as trails, we located the car and a perimeter was set up, as you can imagine. and i actually think it's less than a mile. give or take. but you can imagine where that business was that we poke about tonight. that -- spoke about. that's a large industrial park. we're not just talking about a small area, we're talking large industrial park. but i can say that there's numerous resources from state, tate police, all the local agencies, all the sheriffs' departments across the state of

maine, federal agencies. we had helicopters in the area over that vehicle after i arrived, and i was the second officer on scene. someone brought up a question about k-9s. one thing is we don't want to -- [inaudible] i'm not going to get into all of the details, but there was a lot of teams searching the area. on top of -- i'll add one thing on top of it being an industrial park, obviously, there's one business that we're interested in and our tactical teams declared that building, maine recycling. >> as he pointed out on the overnight we cleared the building again with several agencies, but i'll point out this. why this is all going on, we understand everything we do is a methodical approach and make sure