the senate appropriations committee to testify about the administration's request for at least in terms of israel, i think it's $14.3 billion for israel. >> correct. >> and that's on top of what the u.s. already provides israel, which is 3.8, roughly, billion dollars a year. how much have you pledged to gaza aid? >> so, there is -- we pledged $100 million for gaza aid, but there is a significant amount, i don't have the number at my fingertips, a significant amount in that request to congress that is humanitarian assistance for gaza. i'm happy to follow up and get the exact number. in the request, not just funding for ukraine or the israeli military or to secure the border. also a request for humanitarian assistance. >> more than a billion dollars?

>> i don't know. let me just say, we -- i don't want to lose the point. we have -- >> you are saying that you guys are responsible entirely for getting aid into gaza, which you admit is not enough. >> let me -- >> 150 trucks in the last three weeks. >> let me make clear. >> pledged $100 million for it, not nothing, but not 14.3 billion. >> what i meant by the comments, not the united states providing all of the food, water, medical assistance on those trucks. hold on. >> you just said that -- united states of america -- you said -- >> let me explain. >> united states of america -- >> there is no shortage of countries in the region and international humanitarian networks and organizations who want to provide humanitarian assistance in they have stepped up and the united states have as well. they have. but what the united states was able to do is secure agreement

with the israel and the government of egypt. that has been the breakthrough we have been able to achieve. not the only question of the amount of food and water on the trucks, it's getting agreement and working through the operational agreements to get those in there. >> fair enough, fair enough. getting them in there is priority. but also the amount that's getting in. and 45 trucks in today or yesterday and you are hoping maybe that another 45 will go in today and, but only 150 in the last three weeks, and you are giving them $100 million and yet you are -- the secretary and secretary austin are going to go up and ask for $14.3 billion to go to israel -- this year -- on top of what the u.s. already gives them. >> again, humanitarian assistance also included in the package. no shortage of other countries

who want to provide assistance to the palestinian people. before we secured the agreement, there were hundreds of trucks lined up in egypt outside of rafah that could not go in. it was the leadership of the united states that got the gate open and in. >> credit for brokering a deal to get it in. just questioning, when you say oh, wow, it's -- united states of america managed to get humanitarian aid in, after you get the agreement to get it in, it's the amount of aid going in. >> of course, no -- the barrier of the aid is not the amount of assistance, it's getting inspected and moved through. >> said -- said -- i'm going to come to someone else. >> can you be more specific on the hold-up at rafah? last week you said armed militants were blocking the exit of americans at times and other times no one there to physically open the gate.

as of today, what is hamas doing to obstruct their exit? >> i don't know what they have done on the ground today. we always have imperfect information about what's happening in gaza, it has been one of those two things that has prevented people from getting out since we started working on this problem. hamas has made a number of demands, and we are trying to work through the issue. >> just to follow up on that, if hamas opened the gate today, to be clear, would egypt be able and willing to process the americans? >> they are. >> follow-up question about this funding request. in the bit where you talk about international assistance, or the humanitarian part, it says that some of the humanitarian programming, the crisis could result in displacement across borders and higher regional humanitarian needs and funding may be used to meet evolving program requirements outside of gaza, palestinians point to this

phrase when they talk about their fears that there is going to be further displacement outside of gaza. so i'm wondering when you put this request, were you anticipating that that might happen? >> i don't think that we could be any more clear about our position on this question. you saw the president speak to it yesterday that he opposes the displacement of palestinians from gaza. you saw the secretary say when he was in the region, when he said this question is a nonstarter. we have had to make clear when you have regional instability like we have here, we have to make reasonable planning expectations for the possibility of refugees. but we have made quite clear our position is palestinians deserve the right to stay on palestinian land. >> a couple questions -- what is the position in pakistan and

what steps do you expect the government to take to prevent this from happening? >> so, i would say we condemn the violent anti-semitic events in russia, we call on russian authorities to condemn violent protests, to hold those, anyone involved accountable and ensure the safety of jews in russia. >> the message you are sending to iran, is being well received in iran, and if not, what happens? >> i'm not going to speak to what the iranians have received, or how they have interpreted the messages. i will say we have been very clear. we have made quite clear that we will defend united states interests and the united states personnel in the region. you saw us conduct military operations last week to

reinforce that fact. we have made this clear directly to the iranian government and we hope that they will choose a path of deescalation. >> if i may, one more on china, multiple meetings with the secretary and colleague as well as a representative, conversation with his colleague. does the secretary believe china can be enticed away from supporting russia in ukraine, do you think beijing's patience towards putin's, whatever he is doing in ukraine is not limited? >> again, just as i wouldn't make assessments about what iran may or may not do, i'm not going to make assessments about what china will do. i'll speak for the united states and with his meetings on thursday and friday, the secretary did raise the issue of russia's war against ukraine, and made clear that if china wants to play a productive path

forward, we would welcome china doing so. we have said that publicly. ukraine has said publicly they would welcome china playing a constructive role. the same thing holds true for the middle east, one of the things the secretary raised in his issue with -->> john: there is matthew miller at the state department with the latest on israel now heading toward china, but asked a lot of questions, sandra, about the plight of palestinian civilians as israel begins to launch the ground attack, saying that innocent civilians have been killed, including children. every one of those is a tragedy, they expect israel to act consistent with international law, but as you heard, benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister saying a few minutes ago, that israel has told gazans, or palestinians to get out of the northern part of gaza, a safe zone they are bringing in supplies, but it's hamas that will not let those people leave

and is keeping them in harm's way. >> sandra: right. a lot of talk in the room about the 45 trucks that matt miller confirmed brought in carrying food, water, other humanitarian aid, moving through the rafah crossing into gaza. he said that marked the highest single shipment day today and the total number of trucks into gaza to 150. a lot of questions, early on questions about hostages to which matt miller responded, the less said the better. on the ongoing hostage situation. he did make it clear it is our goal to continue to free any hostages still there. >> john: and of course, the great news that private ori megidish, idf soldier was rescued overnight and is back with her family, but still, over 230 remain hostage at the hands of hamas. >> sandra: top of the hour, 3:00, a white house press

briefing. >> israel will not agree to a cessation of hostilities with hamas after the horrific attacks of october 7th. calls for a ceasefire are calls for israel to surrender to hamas, to surrender to terrorism. to surrender to barbarism. that will not happen. this is a time for war. >> sandra: that was prime minister benjamin netanyahu rejecting calls for a ceasefire, sending a strong warning to hamas terrorists as the idf is ramping up their ground separation. idf says it has -- they have freed an israeli soldier during a ground operation, we learned a short time ago, john. >> john: hamas had been holding her captive since october 7th,

israeli forces say she appears to be in good condition. we have full coverage from around the globe on all of the developing events. first, alex hogan is live in tel aviv, where prime minister benjamin netanyahu briefed reporters there as we mentioned. what more can you tell us about the freed soldier, alex. >> john, this is a major celebration for the country tonight, something hundreds of families are hoping for personally. the release of hostage and the defense minister said as a result of very extensive ground maneuvers to bring this woman home. there are celebrations tonight, especially among the family of this returned soldier. she is fine, according to the idf, physically, at least, ori megidish back with her family. and pressing forwards we have efforts in northern gaza, claiming to have killed dozens of terrorists in buildings and tunnels overnight.

we have seen ground activity ramp up in recent days, the idf is saying this coordinated activity will only intensify. this is footage showing an aerial look, israeli forces say they have taken out 600 targets, weapons warehouses, launching positions and tunnels. and in gaza, smoke is filling the skyline as israeli forces continue to urge residents in the north to flee south. with the widespread damage, the death toll is rising, there is global concern, the german spokesperson is the latest urging to protect the palestinian citizens from the violence. and 45 trucks carrying aid were able to enter gaza yesterday. we were in southern israel yesterday. from yesterday afternoon into early this morning, and i can say that the sounds of

artillery, jets and drones were constant. forces will continue to push in especially after the release of this hostage trying to go after every single hamas militant responsible for october 7th. john, sandra. >> john: alex hogan in tel aviv, under constant threat of hamas attack. stay safe, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: retired idf colonel, mary, thank you for joining us. a few moments ago heard from netanyahu himself saying firmly the future of our civilization is at stake. further detailing what he could about this ongoing ground invasion. saying it is either us or hamas. we are willing to fight, we have to be. the barbarians are willing to fight us. what happens next? >> well, after the genocidal terror attack of october 7th, we have a tendency to look at it as

if it was that day. but this is all part of a bigger hamas terror plan. not only did they plan that attack, they planned into it, the taking of the hostages and the massacring of 1400 people, but they also built what they are going to call their defenses. >> sandra: colonel, i just want to make sure the viewers realize what's happening on the screen, this is live gaza, the flares that continue to go up, activity happening live on the screen right now. colonel, please proceed. >> absolutely. i'll talk a bit more about what you are seeing on the screen. but what hamas built is a defense system which has an above ground and a below ground. in the above ground, it's booby-trapped, snipers, anti-tank capabilities, it is a combination of suicide drones and trying to draw us into a trap and they built all of this knowingly doing so with the civilians, the 2.3 gazans to be

the human shields. that's above ground. below ground, they built over the last decade enormous hundred of kilometer long system and before you were showing some of the aerial photos that the idf put out that showed the attacks that have been done from the air. and in the first three, when i'm not sure all the viewers understand, the ground forces go in, they are looking for the tunnel openings. the tunnel openings are inside structures. you have to take over the structure, the structure above ground is booby trapped, snipers, soldiers in the buildings. when the idf, the israeli air force attack the buildings, what you are seeing is the explosion on the building and keep showing it, because after that you see a secondary very large explosion, that's the tunnel exploding underground. what ground forces are doing are detecting the tunnels, making sure they are targeted and as we just heard also, and we don't

know any details, they are looking for the hostages. this is not something passive, it's active, they brought a hostage home last night. >> sandra: we are watching the activity on the screen right now, obviously with the flares in the air, the explosions happening at the ground level, quite clearly our viewers can see this happening right now. we also just heard from netanyahu calling this a turning point for leaders and nations, colonel. we are willing to fight for hope and promise. the defense minister who spoke a short time before him, a spokesperson for the idf, detailing what he said will be a war that is not short, it will not be easy. but we will achieve absolute victory. final thought from you, colonel, as we watch the live pictures out of gaza. >> this is about being against hamas. we need to free the gaza strip, palestinians from hamas. if we are supporting those poor

civilians there, israel is trying to save those lives be with you all need to destroy the genocidal terror organization called hamas. >> sandra: colonel, thank you for your time. appreciate you joining us. thank you. >> john: a stunning "new york times" report detailing the security failures during hamas brutal incursion into israel on october 7th. reported idf stopped listening to hamas radios more than a year and and u.s. intelligence agency stopped collecting intelligence on the terrorists who were backed by iran. dan hoffman. so a stunning report in the "new york times," dan, there we go, there is dan, and couple with that reports in the israeli media the former defense minister back in 2016 put out 11-page classified report detailing almost to the t what it was that hamas did on october 7th yet everybody

ignored it. what's going on? >> yeah, well, the scale of the hamas attack and the brutality of that attack where so many innocent civilians were killed i think makes it impossible to ignore this extraordinarily costly intelligence failure, and it happened at three stages. the collection phase, israel did not have the collection on hamas. i'm not sure whether it was the push to talk radios, service temperature more than that. human sources inside hamas would have given them the warning they needed. analytical failure as well, and executive decision-making, the third stage where ultimately responsibility is going to rest with the prime minister, netanyahu, who created a lot of disturbance, pilots, israeli pilots would not report to their

duty stations. it's a perfect storm, john. israel needs to focus on taking the fight to the enemy but you can bet a commission that details the failures. >> john: and netanyahu feeling the heat, tweeted out this, at no circumstances was prime minister netanyahu warned of war intentions on the part of hamas. on the contrary, all security officials, including the head of the security council and the head of the shinbay, estimated that hamas was deterred and deterred to the settlement. presented to the prime minister and the cabinet by all the security forces and the intelligence community, including until the outbreak of the war. he was throwing the intelligence community under the bus and then when he got back criticism, he took down that tweet. but the question is, was he wrong? >> well, i'll tell you, he was

wrong because it's bad leadership. you know, take the hippocratic oath of causing no harm to the mission at hand, which is destroy hamas, get the hostages back and avoid a wider war with iran and lebanese hezbollah. that's what he should be focused on, not taking pot shots at his own security forces and intelligence community. there is a time for that later down the road. he needs to exercise the best kind of leadership, mobilizing all the resources and getting the people of israel behind him and speaking to the world community as well. there's got to be focus on what gaza is going to look like post hamas, and what looks like counter insurgency. they have to go in there and root out all of those hamas elements and build something but they should be talking about that concurrently with the military ground offensive taking place. >> john: a lot of comparisons

between what's going on now and fallujah. >> sandra: prime minister benjamin netanyahu a short time ago calling on every civilized nation to demand hamas release the more than 230 hostages held right now in gaza without conditions. we'll talk to one of his senior advisers on the ongoing negotiations in just a bit. >> john: in the united states, college students still holding massive anti-israel rallies on campuses across the country. many jewish students say they are fearing for their safety. >> i was once proud to say i attends columbia law school and say i will be alum of this institution. but no more. i'm embarrassed. homeowner, and the family bookkeeper, you're the first to know when high rate debt is stressing your budget. but your family's service has earned you a big advantage. the va home loan benefit. with the lower rate newday 100

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>> university's inaction has made us question whether columbia university can maintain an environment where all students are welcome and safe on campus. >> sandra: some jewish students say they are feeling threatened as anti-semitic threats are on the rise. alexis mcadams is live at columbia university here in new york city. you talked to the students, what are they saying? >> hi, sandra. the jewish students held a press conference, they are different ages and different majors here at columbia university but one message. they say the university and the president specifically are not doing enough to address the rise in anti-semitism and they say that science is making them feel afraid on campus. >> fear feels like walking on my campus and many people just want me to die. i don't know how to differentiate who wants me dead or alive, but the fact i have to

contemplate that on day-to-day basis and see someone and say they might not want me to exist or my people to exist, that's fear. >> college campuses have been the epicenter of a lot of these ongoing protests we have seen. not just here at columbia, it's also over at cornell university, the fbi is investigating after some threats posted online, and other areas of violence. cornell, the fbi is continuing that investigation after the series of messages posted. so, listen to what was written, sandra. it says they are calling on people to follow, attack and kill jewish students on campus and shoot up the dining hall. the new york governor was at cornell talking with students. >> i came here in person with one strong message that we will not tolerate threats or hatred or anti-semitism or any kind of

hatred that makes people feel vulnerable. >> the protests are spilling out on to city streets. we saw it here in new york, and brooklyn bridge, and that video on the screen happened at grand central on friday. hundreds were arrested after they did a sit-in calling for ceasefire, police had to try to get them out, it was during russia. a pro palestinian rally, we did not see much of a turnout. back to you. >> sandra: alexis mcadams at columbia university here in new york. and so many looking at this happening at universities and colleges coast to coast. can hardly believe this. >> john: cornell, hard to believe. i'm not going to say what was posted online on the forums, by my god, somebody observed it's 1938 all over again, and to some

degree that's the way it feels. >> sandra: just want to highlight that we could see and hear the president a short time from now. if we do have that live shot, we are expecting to see the president and the vice president, they are going to be participating in an event on the president's executive order on artificial intelligence there in the east room as all of this is happening, john, we'll certainly watch and see the president makes any comments on the ongoing war there at the white house. >> john: our good friends doug mills in the center in the blue shirt, getting ready to take another pulitzer prize winning photograph. hi to doug. u.s. forces in syria and iraq have been attacked 23 times in 13 days. they believe iran is responsible for the strikes to retaliate against the u.s. support for israel. jennifer griffin joins us with more. how seriously is the pentagon taking the attacks, jen? >> very seriously.

u.s. defense officials expect to be tested even more by iranian proxies, and are prepared to strike back, even targeting iran. we can confirm u.s. forces in iraq and syria have been attacked as you mentioned 23 times since october 17thp. that is including an additional two times this week after the u.s. airstrikes on thursday night. many of the attacks have failed or were intercepted by u.s. military air defenses, according to a u.s. defense official. 14 attacks against u.s. troops in iraq and nine against syria in the past two weeks. the u.s. military does not count rocket attacks that land more than a mile from their bases, which is true of many of these attacks. >> if american troops are attacked by iran and its proxies, we will respond. we did respond. if attacks continue, we will respond. and i think the iranians

understand our message. >> it's not clear the iranians are getting the message. three attack on u.s. bases by iranian proxy forces, none causing any damage, after they struck the weapons warehouses on the border with iraq and eastern syria. and saturday, did not cause casualties and no damage to u.s. base infrastructure. the iranian proxy drone landed in an open field, posing no threat to the base. u.s. central command has deployed 26 marine expeditionary unit to assist in possible evacuations of americans and embassies in the region if needed. those marines will be on board the u.s.s. baton, amphibious assault ship in the red sea. the hezbollah leader i'm told is keeping his rocket and anti-tank attacks below the radar, enough

to avoid a massive response. u.s.s. eisenhower and aircraft carrier strike group has entered the mediterranean this weekend, passed through the strait of gibraltar and steaming toward the persian gulf. 2500 troops inside iraq. iran believes it can pressure the u.s. to pull out of the middle east by using the proxy forces. if the u.s. were to pull out, iran would take full control of the iraqi government, something neither the u.s. or saudi arabia wants. saudi defense minister at the white house today. >> john: something to best be avoided. back to the attacks against the u.s. bases. the president said in the rose garden with the australian prime minister the attacks had nothing to do with the israel-hamas war. times of israel says it has everything to do with the u.s.

for for israel. >> what we are hearing and can report, defense secretary austin, after the airstrikes in the statement that he released, it was clear the pentagon wanted to separate out. the u.s. airstrikes occurred on the night before the israelis began their ground invasion into gaza. so they wanted to separate out and not give any indication to regional proxy forces the u.s. and israel were going to gaza together. so they wanted to say, and what i believe the president was trying to get at, the u.s. will respond to these iranian proxy forces that threaten their forces and bases in syria, iraq and elsewhere, but do not want to be seen as going to war, per se, with israel either in northern israel or inside the gaza strip. that is -- they have been very clear, they are not sending any u.s. troops to go into gaza or to fight side-by-side with israel. but it's hard to delink the

atmosphere, obviously the iranian proxy forces and iran itself are supporting hamas in gaza, ramping up the pressure on israel and supporting the proxy forces trying to push the forces out of the middle east. >> john: to delink it, pretty difficult. jen, thanks. >> sandra: retired marine lieutenant colonel dakota wood, senior research fellow from the heritage foundation. take you to the touch screen to sort of really show the picture about which jen griffin was reporting, on the u.s. strengthening the posture in the middle east and the location of some of our own forces, including the dwight d. eisenhower carrier strike group over the strait of gibraltar and the mediterranean sea, obviously showing the strength to the south and gerald r. ford in the west, east mediterranean sea there. really showing obviously as i

highlight here the location of israel and the u.s. forces that are now surrounding it. what can you tell us about how we are strengthening our posture there? >> well, clearly it's a stronger position, i mean, all those aircraft flight deck, 70 or 80 strike aircraft, a half dozen fighters, attack helicopters and the mv22 ospreys, 1,000 mile range, evacuation of citizens. that does not even include all the air force squadrons, f-16s, a-10s, and others deployed to the region. amazing amount of strike capability. the weird part is, the president has said this has nothing to do with supporting israel. well, perception in the mind of the person you are trying to deter. clearly the airstrikes were conducted against munition stores in that syria-iraq border

area did nothing to deter iran and its proxy groups. it has not done anything to deter hamas from continuing to attack positions, etc. in israel. it begs the question if this military force is meant to deter broadening the conflict, we have not seen evidence of that, so see what unfolds in the coming days. >> sandra: fair point, and why we see the idf pushing deeper and deeper into gaza. and we are sort of trying to lay this out for the viewers so they can see what has happened since october 29th, just over the past 24 hours or so. the red areas here, this is obviously the gaza strip, the northern border of the strip, these red areas are the reported israeli clearing operations as you can see right on the border there. highlighting in the yellow what is really a significant, significant fighting that we have seen over the past 24 hours. we also sort of laid out on the screen, sir, the water obstacles

that have come into play. obviously at various points along the gaza strip, particularly in the northern portion here, and this gray shaded area is the declared evacuation area, and the densely urban areas, which are going to be a huge struggle for the idf forces once they are in there. but if you could, talk about what's happening right at the northern border of the gaza strip, and sort of the intense fighting that we have seen over the past 24 hours. >> well, you can't parachute israeli defense forces into the middle of gaza city and fight your way outward, right. so, this is going to be a slow in cur-- incursion, as your gue have said, it's the worst thing, three dimensional, every day way, window, potential ambush or sniper hide. as the buildings get rubbled and

is in the streets, moving through the areas, urban canyons that much more difficult but you have to have armored vehicles to support infantry, just like infantry supports the armored vehicles. airstrikes can only get to identified targets. they can collapse tunnels underground but some are these are very, very deep. upwards of 200 feet. they cause a lot of collateral damage. so if you want to preserve life of actual innocent civilians, you want to rescue hostages as has happened in the last 24 hours or so, a ground operation is the only way to do that. around every corner could be a booby trap or sniper, it's a slow, casualty producing, even on the attacking force conflict. totality of this, you mentioned water obstacles. this is war. so hamas is going to try to make it as hard and lethal for the israelis coming in.

israelis are trying to eliminate hamas as any kind of a security threat and caused in the middle of this are the civilians. >> sandra: and the al-shifa hospital under which the hamas terrorists are hiding, and assembling their units for fighting, this gives you location inside gaza where that hospital is. obviously in the northern portion there. but looking at the perimeter of the hospital, it's big. this really gives you an idea of just how big that surface area is. as you look at the operations that hamas is running underground there, at their headquarters, underneath that hospital, could you detail how complex this is, the control and command center that they are running out of there, and how difficult for idf forces knowing they are underneath this vast area that is the hospital underground.

>> it's almost 300 miles of tunnel under gaza as a whole. underneath this hospital, hamas has a long history, going back decades of using civilians as shields. the israelis won't punch through a hospital, so what better place to put your command and control headquarters is under this building. so, if israel tries to do anything directly against the command center, any damage or further casualties will be used as propaganda by hamas to bring protest on a global scale. israel knows this, they are going to try to isolate it electronically, no communications in or out, trying to blind the hamas force and the command structure so it cannot coordinate activities. that's the initial way of getting in there. physically introducing is going to be difficult. >> sandra: thank you for that analysis, the last screen, detailing what the tunnels look like underground that they are

operating in, that's a picture in 2016 concrete nature of them in the northern strip, how vast and complicated the tunnel system is. thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it. john. >> john: sandra, the idf working deeper into gaza with the goal of wiping out hamas. but what comes next? >> sandra: moving tribute to the 240 had people, including little children, that hamas is holding soldier. one idf soldier rescued today but where do things stand for the hundreds more? mark regev weighs in after the break. veterans, if you're applying for a home loan to get cash...surprise. some lenders charge hundreds upfront for your appraisal and other fees. not at newday. a veteran shouldn't have to come up with money to get money. the first time you made a sale online with godaddy was also the first time

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release anyone other than the four hostages and the two american citizens, and for americans who want to leave gaza, they are not working their side of the rafah gate. >> john: the more than 200 hostages were honored in jerusalem, empty beds and cribs lined up, and mark regev joins us in a moment, but first team coverage from israel, let's start with lucas tomlinson live in tel aviv. the prime minister spoke a short time ago. what are we learning about the israeli soldier who was rescued? >> john, israel's prime minister celebrated the rescue of one of his soldiers and rejected all calls for ceasefire. >> just as the united states would not agree to a ceasefire, after the bombing of pearl harbor, or after the terrorist attack of 9/11, israel will not

agree to a cessation of hostilities with hamas after the horrific attacks of october 7th. >> the israeli soldier rescued tonight by israeli special forces is private ori megidish, she was captured during the october 7th massacre outside gaza. new renighted with -- reunited after a medical examination gave her a clean bill of health. tanks and other forces were spotted south of gaza city, john, idf says 55 senior hamas leaders have been killed in operations since the massacre. recently fox spoke to one of israel's top tech moguls and former infantry officer, whose daughter, a palo alto native and boyfriend noam were killed at the music festival on october 7th. he says gaza should be leveled and no deals to release the remaining hostages.

>> i hope our forces will go in and finds all the hostages and bring them back with no negotiations. anyone in gaza is associated with hamas. we will take gaza down and gaza will not be the same. >> 238 hostages remaining in gaza tonight under the knife of hamas, and that includes up to ten american citizens. john. >> john: lucas tomlinson in tel aviv. thank you. sandra. >> sandra: the south, israeli ground forces are moving deeper into gaza, targeting strongholds deep in the city. mike, is anything changing right there? >> well, we see the israeli forces pushing deeper into, and past the barriers of gaza. we have visual confirmation on the north and northwest side, and statement from hamas they moved into the south of gaza city. look at the evacuation zone,

pretty much have the population centers surrounded north of the evacuation zone. what we are getting from the israelis themselves, the ground expansion is expanding. they have hit pockets of resistance waiting to ambush the israeli forces as they push deeper not gaza strip. and they have hit anti-tank positions. indications that social order in the gaza strip is falling apart, very strong indication in the form of video from a u.n. warehouse, the warehouse was ransacked as palestinians are scrambling for the basic necessities of life and running off with things like bags of flour. some 45 had aid trucks made it in on sunday, for a total of 150 aid trucks, only allowed to bring in food, water and medicine. israel thus far is preventing fuel from getting into the gaza strip but it's a very desperate situation and as we can see from the visuals, social order is

really starting to fall apart in the south of the gaza strip, sandra. >> sandra: mike tobin in southern israel, thank you. john. >> john: bring in ambassador mark negev, former ambassador to the u.k., good to catch up with you. a while since you and i chatted. >> it is indeed. >> john: i wanted to ask you about the good news reporting private ori megidish. can you give us any details on how she was rescued overnight? >> i can only tell you it was a special operations combined with our elite forces, together with intelligence. israel, assets on the ground, and we are very glad she's at home, that she's safe, healthy and with her family. i think all israelis are celebrating the fact that she was rescued. >> john: the fact she was rescued in a military operation, does it give you some hope that other hostages may be able to be

freed by the idf without negotiations with hamas? >> first of all, i hope so. obviously there will be a major thing underway but restate the uncomfortable truth. we are dealing with a brutal horrific enemy. we saw the violence they are capable of. they are not humanitarians, they are the opposite of that and we have to understand the people that we are dealing with and the people who are our people who are held hostage. they are in terrible danger, and while we make -- make a maximum effort to get them out, we have to do our best but it's a formidable circumstance. >> john: on the subject of negotiations, trey yingst was reporting that senior israeli officials met with officials over the weekend to try to push forward the release of at least some hostages. where do those negotiations

stand now? >> john, i can't go into that, i can only say that those -- the idea of trying to get them out is at the top of our agenda. we believe the military operation and keeping the pressure up on hamas is a way to facilitate their release. we think that diplomatic pressure on hamas's friends, allies in the middle east, another which of getting them out and that combination is going to get us more people out in the end. >> john: i just want to point out as we are speaking, we are showing this display there in israel of the empty beds representing all of the hostages who are still in hamas custody. our old friend, dennis ross, on the subject of israeli ceasefire with mounting international pressure on israel, wrote something in the "new york times," significant coming from ross because as you know, he probably has done more than any other american diplomat to try to achieve peace between israel and the palestinians.

he wrote this. in the past i might have favored a ceasefire with hamas during a conflict with israel. but today it is clear to me that peace is not going to be possible now or in the future as long as hamas remains intact and in control of gaza. hamas's power and ability to threaten israel and subject gaza civilians to evermore rounds of violence must end. coming from dennis ross, that is a pretty definitive statement that the situation on the ground has to change. because he has always held out hope there is a peaceful solution here, he doesn't see one in this case. >> well, i think we all have to understand that anyone who wants to see peace in the middle east has to see that hamas is a major problem. they are going to oppose any peace, they are going to oppose any reconciliation. they say openly, the jewish state, my country has no right to exist, not on any borders. they say openly any arab leader

is a traitor to the jewish world. and every israeli, a legitimate target for murder, for terrorism. these people oppose peace and reconciliation and anyone who wants to see a better and more peaceful middle east has to support israel in our fight against hamas. >> john: just anecdotally, you mentioned arabs seen as traitors. we spoke a week and a half ago with the chief of united hatzalah, he said an arab volunteer was captured by hamas and was tortured worse than israelis were. mark, we'll see you soon. >> look forward to that, john. >> sandra: as thousands protest against israel across america,

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>> president biden had a similar theme on social media saying we must denounce anti-semitism and we must announce anti-islamophobia. critics say putting the two together is down playing the threat of anti-semitism and making american jews less safe. >> i think what you have more distinctively is anti-semitic terrorism. it's a product of what the administration pushes. >> others are expressing concern about the protests that erupted on many american college campuses over the past three weeks. it's interesting to note during the black lives matters protests in 2021, people would say all lives matter. many say it's insensitive or racist. >> thanks, mik