that ukraine might become a victim of domestic politics? >> we believe that if support -- first of all, we believe support for ukraine continues to be essential, it continues to be important that the united states be there to help ukraine defend itself against these horrific attacks russia has launched on them and continues to launch on them, and as a practical matter, should funding for ukraine get an up or down vote, it will pass in both houses of congress. so, i now understand the kind of turn that has accompanied this, but it continues to be our position that that funding is important, it should pass, and that as a practical matter, if it gets a vote, it will pass. >> as you know, ukraine has seen more attacks in the past 24 hours than since the beginning of the war, 100 attacks to village and towns. moscow is under the impression that other conflicts are diverting attention in the west and it has leeway to --

>> i don't know what -- i won't speak to what impressions moscow might be getting but we have not lost focus in any sense on our need to support ukraine. it's why you have seen the president give an oval office address about our support for ukraine and we will stay focused on it. we think we have the ability to work on more than one thing. you hear the secretary often say we have to walk and chew gum at the same time. that is true with the issues. >> who is compiling the list of evacuees at rafah gate and which is the criteria to determine what injuries are eligible. >> because of the sensitive nature of this i'm not able to get into -- all of this has been as i said extremely difficult process when you think of the parties involved and i find the not productive to speak to the underlying details here. >> israel and egypt expressed

security concerns and no third party is doing -- >> we have worked with the government of egypt and israel to attempt to ensure an orderly flow through the rafah crossing. obviously they have agreed to this transit of people throughout, and they agreed to the transit of people through rafah some number of weeks ago and it has taken this long to make it a reality. i won't get into details, other than to say we feel we have the system to get the orderly flow of u.s. citizens and other foreign nationals. with all things related to the situation, we'll repeat the caution i started with, this remains to be a very fluid situation and we'll continue to work on it and not rest until gotten our people out. >> do you have assurances all the 400 or so americans and all of their family members will be able to leave? >> again, for some of the operational security reasons i

outlined at the beginning of the briefly, i don't want to get into those details. >> what do you expect from the speech on friday, attorney general of hezbollah, and might change the course of the war or maybe turn for a large scale war. what do you expect from the speech? >> i would not want to speculate what he might say in advance. >> are you -- any fear or worry -- >> we will monitor what he has to say. hostile to israel thinking of entering the conflict should think again. >> the president and the secretary have made a point of saying there should be a path to a two-state solution. i noticed you had a bit of a revised version of that you would work for the establishment of the palestinian state reflects aspirations of gaza and the west bank. given the israeli government,

against the policy to contemplate the two-state solution, many palestinians think it's not possible, because the settler activity means it's no longer viable, what is the purpose now of like flagging a two-state solution? >> the purpose is we believe it is ultimately only solution for durable lasting peace and it's something that we have pushed with the leadership of the israeli government, the leadership of the palestinian authorities, something we have made clear we continue to support and will reiterate it on this trip when people talk about the end of this conflict and what different options are for post conflict scenario, i think it's important and secretary believes it's important we lay out kind of our first principles here and one of our important first principles is the establishment of a two-state

solution. >> and something has to happen with the governance of gaza when and if this is over, do you think the israeli government is more open now to talking about this? >> so, i again don't want to get ahead of, i don't want to get ahead of conversations that still need to take place. i will say we have made very clear that two things are true. number one, hamas cannot continue to govern and administer gaza and use it as a launching pad for terrorist attacks against israel. number two, gaza cannot be occupied by israel. what the alternative is between those two polls is a matter we will discuss here in the united states government, with the palestinian people and leadership and matter we will discuss with partners in the region. >> i would follow up on this, the secretary, when he was asked yesterday on the head, about this, he said we are discussing temporary measures that involve arab countries and international

agencies. what did he mean by that? >> he meant exactly that. if you mean will i provide you more details, no. we will continue to have discussions, we will keep them private with our partners, with international agencies, i'm not going to provide any further details. >> my second question is on, foreign nationals departed gaza. yesterday also the secretary has that that hamas is impeding the departures of the american citizens and you said you didn't make any concession. why did they change their mind? leverage from other countries? >> i will say a few things. number one, is that is correct. hamas was impeding the american nationals and other foreign nationals, and sometimes they were actively preventing them from approaching the gate and they have now agreed to no longer stand in the way. so without getting into the

details of how this might have come, i will note for the record the secretary discussed the matter with the prime minister and foreign minister of qatar on monday, we made clear anyone in the region who can help bring any influence to bear with hamas, that they do so. and we are appreciative to -- appreciative to the work the government of qatar has done as they have done with securing the release of hostages and attempting the release of hostages, i'll leave it there. >> on the americans leaving rafah, what's the rate limiting step on the pace of departures. hamas determining how many or a security consideration? >> i don't, because of the security, the operational security concerns i said at the beginning, i don't think it's useful to get into any details. what i will say, if there's any american citizen in gaza who has not yet registered with the state department and they want to leave, they should register

as soon as possible. those american citizens in gaza who have already registered with the state department, watch the email and get them a time and specific instructions how to leave. but as it pertains to the number and when for a number of reasons, i don't think it's helpful for me to talk about that publicly. i would be happy to do so at the end of the process. but while it's ongoing, i think it would be counterproductive. >> and president biden expected to see american citizens leaving in the coming days and you said you are working on the immediate family members of some 600. expectation they'll be allowed to depart at the same pace or different tracts? >> we are working to have all of these things happen together. american citizens and family members move. it is always our policy to keep families together, that's what we are trying to make happen. >> matt, thank you. what entity overseas humanitarian aid to gaza and the u.n. agency controlled by hamas, and i have a follow-up.

>> so i would reject that interpretation of unra, it is united nations agency that provides humanitarian assistance to innocent civilians in gaza and the west bank. >> follow up, when the u.s. sends the funds to the unra, u.n. agency, who oversees to make sure it's not used for guns and munitions. >> we have strict monitoring programs in place for the assistance we provide. we look into this regularly, we inspect, we audit, we do everything possible to ensure there is no diversion of funds or any of the humanitarian assistance that we provide to unra or any of the other agencies and international relieve organizations working in the area. >> thank you, matt. the foreign minister of iran, next to him, foreign minister of turkey said today if an

immediate ceasefire doesn't take place in gaza, and attacks by u.s. continue, then the consequences will be harsh. i want your comment. >> so, we have made very clear that we do not seek conflict with iran. do not want to see the conflict widen in any way. as the secretary has made clear, we will defend u.s. interests and personnel in the region. we have taken steps to do so and as the secretary of defense made clear on the hill yesterday, if we need to take additional steps, we will do so at the time and place of our choosing. >> another question, i see that the head of the foreign affairs committee of turkey, he said according to reuters, that turkey was in no hurry, even if nato and u.s. want speedy for

sweden. you want as soon as possible, and he answered to you, i'm sure. >> i haven't seen those specific comments and stick with my typical practice of not reacting to comments unless i have seen the place and the context they were delivered. we have made clear we want to see sweden asession into nato as soon as possible. the secretary has had conversations with his counterpart about that and make it happen. >> what the iranian prime minister said. if the war goes out of the control, u.s. will be responsible for what will happen next, and also he said that. there will be another surprise move by the resistance. >> john: matt miller at the state department talking about the release of americans from gaza through the rafah border crossing. he would not say how many, sandra, got out today but do

know according to tony blinken, 400 american citizens and families, a total of about 1,000 people. typically 100 to 120 live in gaza full-time but a lot there visiting. don't know how many got out, but at least some got out. >> sandra: and maybe some clarity from john kirby, audio only, a gaggle aboard air force one, expect to get all americans out of gaza, ceasefire is not the answer right now. we are going to turn the sound from kirby as well, that was happening while matt miller was briefing at the state department. >> john: looking forward to that. >> sandra: meanwhile, state confirming americans are among the foreign nationals that departed gaza through the rafah crossing earlier today, they expect more u.s. citizens to leave gaza in the coming days. >> john: the state department is

communicating directly orlando the past 24 hours. and the latest fire from lebanon into israel in the important part of the country. >> sandra: first let's get to lucas tomlinson, he's live in sderot, israel. >> three israeli army divisions are operating inside gaza attacking from three different directions, with the goal of cutting off gaza city from the rest of the strip. one of the divisions pushing in from the east has the goal of pushing hamas all the way to the sea. israel's defense minister spoke to his forces not far from where i'm standing. >> i want to bring great appreciation to the performance of the forces. we are hitting the terrorists at all levels from those who fight in the field to the level of commanders. unfortunately, there is also a price on our side as happens in every battle. >> israeli forces have been

inside gaza since friday night, turning up the volume as they approach the gates of gaza city. these advances have not come without a cost. 16 soldiers have been killed in action since the gaza operation started, 11 yesterday alone. mechanized forces, tanks, bulldozers and mine clearing vehicles, backed by artillery and airstrikes overhead. idf has destroyed targets in gaza, it won't stop until hamas is completely annihilated. israeli forces say the airstrike in the jabalia camp was justified. hamas claims more than 50 civilians were killed and 150 were wounded. now coming back to you live outside gaza, we have seen a number of israeli forces moving closer to the strip. gun trucks, and also heard israeli f-15s, and f-16s

orbiting overhead, and a lot of artillery pounding hamas positions inside the gaza strip. so far it's all outgoing, no incoming. >> sandra: lucas, thank you. >> john: from trey yingst, he's been able to confirm independently that five americans got out from gaza, aid workers, all of them, so not people who were there visiting, people there working. also the israeli defense forces just a few minutes ago confirmed they did strike the jabalia refugee camp a second time, apparently they took out a hamas command and control complex and that hamas terrorists were eliminated in that strike. now this. >> idf says mortars from lebanon were fired into israel and the military responded by shelling a terror cell there. growing concern hezbollah will enter the conflict in full force

at some point. steve is live in northern israel. so, steve, scrimmages, some rocket, some missile fire, but so far none of the big attacks from hezbollah that we were expecting might happen when israel went into gaza on the ground. >> exactly right, john. it has not happened yet and certainly much of the world watching and hoping it does not happen at all. one thing that is happening, though, escalation, at least as far as the kind of weapons being used. israeli forces intercepted a surface to air missile overnight from hezbollah in lebanon. it's likely the missile was targeted at an israeli drone. israeli drones have been very effective in the border fighting, killing several dozen hezbollah fighters. and hezbollah is not the force it was in 2006, back then it relied on unguided rockets firing off en mass. with a lot of help from iran, their weapons are more

sophisticated, guided missiles that could strike the israeli infrastructure. a more dangerous foe than 2006. and another attack on u.s. forces in the region, the 28th attack in just the past two weeks. this attack at a u.s. base in syria. a drone attack. all coming from militias aligned with iran. back to you. >> john: steve with us along the lebanese line. thank you. >> sandra: idf says israeli airstrike killed a senior hamas commander. medics in the area say many civilians were also killed or injured. idf saying hamas had a network of underground tunnels there. israel defense forces spokesperson. what update can you give on this? >> yes, good afternoon.

and thank you for having me. this was a pinpointed strike against the hamas commander that has been controlling and commanding the anti-tank warfare unit in the gaza strip, which they have been employing towards the tanks, toward people, towards our soldiers. one of those did result in some deaths that we experienced. he was a senior commander and is confirmed dead, along with a number of other terrorists that were with him. this is -- was a coordinated strike, part of our ground operations in the gaza strip. that was a successful, successful mission. >> sandra: major, br does this put things generally speaking with the war. where does it stand at this hour? >> we are moving forward with our objectives in the gaza strip as we have said, laid out over the last few weeks, we have coordinated forces, we are able to activate all of our assets. right now we are talking ground assets, combined with air,

combined with air, armor, in the gaza strip fighting in close range with hamas terrorists. they are fleeing, i can tell you, into underground bun kers. we see them inside of medical clinics, inside of schools. they good in, you open the doors, you can't find anybody, walk a few feet in, pull up a hatch and they are underneath the ground. they are so embedded in the civilian structures we have been saying. we have managed to eliminate a number of the terrorists and take overcome pounds used to launch the october 7th attacks. we are making significant progress in the gaza strip right now. >> sandra: as far as what is needed to continue the fight, obviously just got an update from the state department, our continued aid is going into gaza, and heard about more trucks entering. we know there are americans sill there, the u.s. is trying to get out. what would you say is needed at this point, what's your message

to all those that are helping israel in this fight? >> first of all, we are very thankful that there are a number of foreigners that are able to leave the gaza strip. it's happening, i do want to remind everybody that 240 of the people in the gaza strip are also foreigners there, israelis and foreign nationals. those are the hostages to answer your question. their lives are still at enormous risk. they are being held under conditions, including 9-month-old babies. it's still a very, very raw wound and frightening thing for the families. what needs to take place in order for this to be successful, let the idf continue with our goals and understand this is the most important thing, understand that every moment along the way there are painful moments that this hamas began this terror campaign in israel, we never wanted this, we didn't seek it, didn't want it, they brought war on us and now we have war to wage on them until they are

eliminated. justification for this is that hamas has begged and acted on the terror instruction on the state of israel. that notion has to be kept in everybody's mind as we see the painful images and move forward in the difficult weeks to come. >> sandra: and we know there are many difficult weeks, possibly months to come as predicted by those inside this fight. a moment ago from our state department, confirmed by a spokesperson there that u.s. secretary of state antony blinken will be visiting, travelling to israel and jordan on friday. what do you hope from that visit? >> on the military level i can tell you the cooperation with the united states is historic. go down in the history books truly amazing alliance, on a military level, sharing information, munitions and support in general, the united states standing shoulder to

shoulder in this time that is really a test for all the countries of the world, do you support israel or not, because this is to a large degree existential threat for the state of israel and i'm sure the secretary of state and israeli counterparts will be in a very productive meeting from a military perspective. i can tell you we are fully focused, separate from the political realm, moving forward with the mission on the ground. >> sandra: got it. major, thank you for your time today. thanks for coming on. all right. >> thank you. >> i think it's important for americans to understand that even before this conflict we are dealing with an adversary that just in the past couple years has tried to kill a former u.s. national security adviser on u.s. soil, tried to kidnap and then kill an american journalist smack in the middle of new york city, conducted a cyber --

attempted a cyber attack against a children's hospital and tried to interfere in the last presidential election as director ratcliffe and i called out at a press conference in the fall of 2020. on top of being the leading -- >> sandra: the new warning from fbi director christopher wray who called out hezbollah specifically at a hearing on capitol hill, wray said it's important for americans to understand iran is a threat to the u.s. and was before the conflict. >> iranian foreign minister has threatened, and warnings iran could do a terror attack at home. tehran has plotted assassinations and attacks here in the united states. 2013, iranian american admitted he worked with the military to

try to kill the saudi arabia ambassador to the united states bombing a popular restaurant in d.c. where the ambassador was dining. and two years ago, two men were sentenced on conducting surveillance on officials, and targeted a jewish group in chicago. and last year, a plot to assassinate john bolton and other top trump administration officials. just last week, at the united nations, here is the iranian foreign minister threatening officials of the biden administration. >> i say frankly to the american statesmen who are now managing the genocide in palestine that we do not welcome to expansion of the war in the region.

but i warn if the genocide in gaza continues they will not be spared from this fire. >> and there have been increasing warnings that iran could be trying to sneak agents into our country over the southern border. an anti-regime activist, a member of the national council of resistance of iran, he was surveilled by iranian agents and says tehran would do anything to try and get agents here. >> my situation is no different than millions of iranians all over the country who are being targeted by the iran regime. the regime is desperate, they are facing a huge amount of rejection by the people of iran and the prospect of change in iran is what keeps me going. >> he says iran could strike anywhere that they wish and as we have already seen, that does include right here in the united states.

sandra. >> sandra: eric shawn, thank you. >> john: the same time, growing concern that hamas's attack on israel last month could inspire lone wolf actors in this country. very real fear considering there have been warnings of hezbollah terrorists crossing into the u.s. illegally via the southern border and when pressed on the issue by fox news white house correspondent peter doocy, the white house said it would not engage in hypotheticals. bring in chad wolf, former acting dhs secretary and america first policy institute executive director. the director of the fbi does not engage in hypotheticals either, chad. but what he said at the senate homeland security meeting yesterday. listen here. >> we assess the actions of hamas and its allies will serve as inspiration, the likes of which we have not seen since iceens launched the so-called caliphate several years ago. in just the past few weeks, multiple foreign terrorist

organizations have called for attacks against americans and the west. >> john: very often it's not too much of a leap between calls for the actual attacks themselves. are we back to the days when isis was really inspiring a lot of terror acts? could we go back to the days preceding 9/11? >> well, i think we could, and i think the director is right. look, we have to be concerned about those that are inspired to do certain actions and of course we have seen that over the last 5 or 6 years. about you when we look at iran and look at lebanese hezbollah, back to 2020 threat assessment from the department homeland security department, hezbollah launching attacks in the united states with little or no previous warning based on history. threat has been there for some time. we live in a more uncertain world because of what's going on overseas and then on top of that, you have a very unsecure border where you see individuals, and you see special interest aliens apprehended from

places like iran and lebanon and other countries of concern and those of course are the ones that we are picking up. you've got millions of got-aways across the border, so you don't know who is really in this and you know the bad individuals out there, like iran and others, are watching the news and they are saying look, if there's an opportunity to get in the united states, the southern border is our avenue to do that. so i think there's a lot of concerns as the world has grown more concern and more dangerous over the last two and a half to three years, our border has become more wide open. >> john: chad i swear you are reading my mind. arrest of special interest aliens on the southern border since october of 2021. 6,386 from afghanistan, 3,153 from egypt, and on and on and on. better doocy, at the white house yesterday, asked john kirby about the potential that bad guys have gotten into this country. listen to what he said here. >> is it possible somebody who wants to commit a terrorist

attack during a time of elevated threat crossed the southern border into the united states already. >> i couldn't possibly answer that question, peter. all i can do, is tell you that we have, remain vigilant to that potential threat. >> john: based on the numbers we have seen, chad, what would your answer to that question be? >> i would say that scenario that is asked there is probably more probable today than it has been since 9/11. and all we have to do is look again at the numbers. when you have the sheer volume of numbers across the border. as the numbers increase, the number of public safety threats, national security threats, known or suspected terror, special interest aliens, the list goes on and on, increases as well, as well as the got-aways, and so the probability of individuals coming across the border that are here to do things to the united states and to americans specifically, that threat increases as well. and so for the white house to say well, i'm not going to engage in that, what they are telling the american people is

they don't know, which is a problem. not only do they not know, but they have not put measures in place to protect americans from this flow of individuals coming across the border and it continues to increase month after month. >> john: i swear, chad, you are reading my mind. that exact topic came up yesterday at the homeland security meeting, roger marshall asked. >> how many illegal aliens in the country or here on asylum have direct ties to hamas, hezbollah, islamic jihad or guard core of iran. >> let me assure you the individuals that pose a risk to our national security are our highest enforcement priority. >> do you have any idea what the numbers are. tens, hundreds, thousands. >> our highest enforcement priority. >> john: was he telling senator

marshall to found sand or saying i don't know, so i'm going to make something up. >> i think it's a little bit of both. continuing to repeat a phrase regardless of the question, and what he says is our highest enforcement action. what he doesn't say there, we are actually arresting them or deporting them and removing them. it could any number of things. we talk to them and then release them into the country. very specific what is occurring with the special interest aliens, known and suspected terrorists and all the other individuals that they are apprehending in some cases, but what i would say is the vetting that we have seen from this administration, whether it's the 100,000 afghans that have come in after kabul vetting no not up to par, not the least. >> john: wake of 9/11, intelligence was saying the lights were blinking red ahead of 9/11.

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get americans out of gaza, and president biden is juggling a full plate, increasing attacks on american soldiers in the middle east. and meeting with xi jinping in san francisco. progressives are calling to a ceasefire. >> comments made by the head of hamas that terrorists will continue repeating 10-7 style attacks on israel until israel no longer exists. >> i think it's important for us all, those are chilling comments, we ought to pay attention to them and take them seriously. >> saying thanks to american leadership, we have safe passage for wounded palestinians and citizens to exit gaza. we won't let up working to get americans out of gaza.

state officials are not giving specifics, citing operational security and they insist hamas is not getting anything in return for this unknown number of americans leaving gaza. but critics are telling us that they think the approach this administration is taking to the negotiations is upside down. >> i think the administration's policy is completely inverted and backwards. we need to be sending a very clear message to hamas's backers, whether it's turkey or qatar, or others, that are backing them that, if the hair on an american's head is touched, they will all feel the ramifications, not just hamas leadership themselves. >> and president biden wants to talk about anything else, he's got this bidenomics speech in minnesota this afternoon, nothing war-related today, at least not on camera. john. >> john: peter doocy, 1600 pennsylvania, peter, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: thank you, john.

iranian-backed groups have now carried out 28 attacks, that number continues to grow, on u.s. bases and troops in the middle east in just the past two weeks. biden administration has responded with two strikes but critics are calling for more action. "new york post" wrote western leaders are frozen by the fear of escalation. tensions and attacks will escalate for as long as an enemy whose sworn aim is to destroy you can get away with it. retired air force brigadier general rob spalding. general, thank you very much for joining us. give idea of the israeli ground operations here and get your take on things as we do look closer at the risk to our own troops and the growing number of u.s. military personnel that is in the region. but let's go inside gaza here with the israeli ground operations sort of what we know they are defining here as their

ground operations, it's smaller than that full scale ground invasion that many were predicting would happen and we are being told that's part of the tactic here, the israeli forces have now extended their position across the coastline, we are told. these are also ground operations here and the dotted lines and here to the south, halfway through the gaza strip. in the yellow we sort of laid out where israel is claiming advances in some of those areas, also in this region. and then we have circled the areas of significant fighting. so, this is really the concentration of what we are seeing so far as far as the israeli ground operations in gaza. what can you add to that and tell us about that? >> well, i think you know, everybody wants to zoom in on israel and i think we need to do a little bit of zooming out and recognize that the response is going to come not just in the middle east, likely here at

home. i would be focusing on the iranian leaders and the chinese leaders in terms of making sure they understand if there's americans attacked whether they are here at home or abroad, that we are going to hold both of them responsible i think the israelis are going to do what they have to do. once this invasion really begins in earnest, the heat is on for us. >> sandra: take a look at the 28 attacks we can put up on the screen. this number continues to grow. this, as you are pointing out, this is israel, this is the small portion down there that is gaza on this map. but you are saying look more broadly, look to the risk to this -- to our u.s. troops and the bases in the region as we now know there's about 40,000 military personnel throughout the region showing qatar, uae,

kuwait, iraq, syria, turkey, and all these destinations. are we responding forcefully enough to the now 28 attacks, sir. >> well, it's going to grow even more. so the problem is, if you are going after each of those proxies, you are going to need overwhelming capability, we don't have. we are spread in another war in europe and another war in asia coming. so if you have to focus, focus on the iranian regime, make the leaders feel the pressure. if they think that as a result of these proxy attacks they are doing, that they face the loss of the control of their regime, they will be reacting to that, like when we hit general soleimani, you need to make them fearful what's going to happen in the aftermath of the proxy attacks. >> sandra: as we hear the

growing calls for a ceasefire, even polling here at home, a majority, more than half of americans would support that happening, here is hillary clinton last thursday on that. listen to this. >> people who are calling for a ceasefire now do not understand hamas. that is not possible. it would be such a gift to hamas because they would spend whatever time there was a ceasefire in effect rebuilding their armaments, you know, creating stronger positions to be able to fend off an eventual assault by the israelis. >> sandra: general, a big part of this is people understanding and getting and learning and educating themselves on who this group is and what their intention is when they are asked questions like that. >> well, the problem is, what she didn't talk about, the fact the giegs has been giving money

to hamas and giving money to the iranian regime, which is supporting hamas. sko it's great they are finally coming around but they should have done that a lot sooner. and more importantly, we should have secured the southern border because i fear we have a lot of attackers in the country. >> sandra: brigadier general, appreciate you joining us. thank you so much for your analysis and thoughts on all of that. thank you, sir. >> john: great analysis there. some people in the lgbtq community are joining protests with rainbow flags reading free palestine. critics say they don't know the whole story. that coming up. >> sandra: anti-israel protestors are tearing down posters supporting efforts to bring home hostages in gaza and some protestors have no trouble justifying their actions. speak to carol markowitz next. upfront for your appraisal

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>> sandra: more members of the lgbtq community are joining protests carrying rainbow flags with the words free palestine. critics are reminding people israelis are the ones taking in lgbtq palestinians who have had to flee their homes where being gay is criminalized. mike emmanuel is live in washington and has more on this for us. >> gay and transparency people in the gaza strip and west bank face persecution, but some mission marching with mission for queers for a free palestine, even though homosexual relations are outlawed. an official israeli government account mocked a post with a

protestor holding an lgbtq palestinian flag writing looking forward to seeing hamas raise the rainbow flag across gaza as a thank you for your solidarity. israeli american gay rights activist says lgbtq people marching for the palestinians are "mislead and uneducated." >> israel is the ones that would save all those queers and all the lgbtq community from the hamas and from other palestinian groups. you have to understand it's a fight for freedom, a fight for freedom and equality, it goes together. >> a group called equal dex tracks lgbtq rights around the world. gives israel 62 out of 100. palestinian territories only gets 7 out of 100. on the other side, some argue if you liberate the palestinian territories, that would also free up queer people there to live their lives, but in recent years lgbtq palestinians have

sought work permits and stay permits in israel. sandra. >> sandra: mike emmanuel, thank you. >> john: new video shows a group of new yorkers hopping into action to protect the posters of jewish children held hostage by hamas. they have gone up in cities around the world but just as often quickly taken down. "new york times" says it's a release valve for people upset by israel's response in gaza. and now growing push back against those who film and post those tearing down the posters, critics accuse them of doxxing people. carol markowitz, point out, i saw a wall of the missing outside the defense ministry in tel aviv a couple weeks ago when i was there, these are israeli citizens, grandmothers, children, they are mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, many

of them are lefties who are peace loving and are held by hamas. so, when people tear down pictures of these poor people who were taken hostage by a terrorist organization, i restrain myself from saying a word on television that will get me fired, i'll say what in the flip is wrong with these people? >> well, what's wrong with them is that they don't want people to know the atrocities that hamas is committing and they are covering up for. i think a lot of people think it's easy to dismiss the mass murder, who did it, who the victims are, it's a big question mark they think but when you see the pictures you can't unknow what they are doing, you can't unknow they stole children from their homes, babies, 9-month-olds, grandmas, these are real people being held in gaza and you know, the idea of a ceasefire, for example, simply cannot exist while these people are still being held. it's completely off the table.

so i think that a lot of the people who are ripping down the posters hope to do is to have people forget what happened on october 7th and forget that these people are being held. and that's simply not going to happen. israel will not forget these people and they will get them back. >> john: and now of course hamas is putting out the message, no way to verify this, that some of the hostages have been killed in israeli airstrikes against the jabalia refugee camp. then there is the situation at the yale daily news, editor in chief had published this article titled "is yaleys for palestine a hate group," cited that people were burned to death, women raped, they had a correction, the note has been edited to re

re remove unsubstantiated claims, and they say they retract with entirety and without qualification. yale daily news is like the farm team for the "new york times" and "washington post" and other newspapers. what's going on there? >> it's not surprising. farm team does a terrible job and the "new york times" and "washington post" also does a terrible job. "new york times" is making excuses for what's going on in gaza and so the idea that these atrocities didn't actually happen, again, is something they need to believe in order to keep supporting this cause. how could you support a cause with mass rape, how could you support a cause that beheads babies. they have to pretend this did not happen, because otherwise they are monsters too. >> john: all of this is part and parcel what we see in so many colleges, dozens now across the united states, where i guess under the heading of being pro

palestinian we are seeing a lot of anti-israeli, anti-semitic sentiment. the editor in chief of the yale daily news and the person who wrote that article says about what's going on. listen here. >> at this point i had seen a lot of horrifying rhetoric at my university, specifically hundreds of students chanting resistance is justified at a rally, in reference to hamas's brutalities. but i had not seen outright denial by my peers. i don't think it's possible for public pressure to change a deeply rooted anti-jewish current that exists in the university. >> john: you know, and again, i made this point yesterday, these are not back woods community colleges. these are ivy league schools, these are supposed to be

critical thinking. maybe people should ask for their money back. >> yeah, and conversation about which of the colleges can you send your children to, but i don't think it should be just a conversation for the jewish world. do you want your children going to a school they have to lie in order to support a cause. this is really where we are at right now and this did not happen overnight. it's a march through our institutions by leftists for many, many years, this is the culmination of that, not the start of it. it's sort of where it all has led. they look at the world through a presser and a press that's very black and white, very, very basic, and they have found israel to be the oppressor. the fact they are wrong is neither here nor there because they keep pushing the ideas on the kids. here we are, and we should look at the colleges and say is this where we want our kids to end up. >> john: good to get your thoughts. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> sandra: israeli defense forces expanding the ground

invasion and pushing into gaza as evacuations begin. alex hogan is live in tel aviv, israel at this hour. what's the latest from there? hi, alex. >> hi, sandra. new solemn numbers, rising death toll of israeli soldiers up to 16 people. as the idf moves forward deeper and deeper into gaza, it is specifically targeting the hamas ammunition depots and of course the underground tunnels. the idf laying out some of the weapons and vehicles taken from hamas militants on october 7th. >> the numbers were surprising. >> machine guns, rpgs, explosives, these are weapons the idf says expected to be used on soldiers, never civilians. >> this was hard to see. >> but it gives a look at what the idf says it expects in gaza. >> we believe this is representative of the times that we will see.

>> this one is a homemade hamas rocket. the second one is iranian one. the third one is a north korean production. the last one is the classic rpg that came from russia. >> as the idf intensifies its targets on hamas, we are learning more and more about the new conditions for people who were trying to flee. today that group of americans successfully made it out and tonight we are learning the first british nationals also, sandra, have made it to egypt. >> sandra: alex, thank you. >> the genocide that is happening right now as people are staying silent is the truth and essence of how we are all feeling. this is what exactly they are telling us who they are. not all of america is with the oval office right now or with what congress is doing. majority of them want a

ceasefire. >> john: democratic congresswoman rashida tlaib is under fire for her comments about israel's war against hamas. the house will vote whether to censure her. chad pergram, the latest. a measure that's rarely used, chad. >> john, that's right. the house has only censured 25 members in history, there is bipartisan anger over tlaib's remarks, especially from jewish lawmakers. >> we are gonna remember and maybe we don't want to vote for -- the people that want to ban us or the people that want to live in silence and let the genocide happen. >> marjorie taylor greene authored the plan, but the house could censure here for what they say are anti-gay slurs. >> a vote of conscience for people. obviously what has been reported

that she said and some of the activities are way beyond the pail. i won't stop it. >> could be an expulsion. five new york republicans intend to force a vote to boot george santos. >> he engaged in election fraud, and george santos is not fit to serve his constituents as a united states representative. >> now, censure needs a simple majority but expulsion two-thirds. the house has only expelled five members in history. if it expells santos, gop majority dwindles to a margin of three seats. >> john: we'll watch the action from capitol hill. thank you. >> sandra: that does it for us. thanks so much for tuning in. i'm sandra smith. >> john: and i'm john roberts. "the story" with martha starts right now.