questions whether it's sending a strong enough message to counsel iran, here at home, hundreds of protestors marched tois had delaware home demanding a ceasefire, some as far as accusing hip of enabling genocide. another protest overseas, with a very different message. tens of thousands of europeans taking to the street in france marching against the surge in antisemitism. we have fox team coverage, jeff paul. >> john: mark meredith is live on the north lawn at 1600 pennsylvania. >> newsmaking white house briefing in the hour, pushed back to 2:30, but so much of the focus is on president biden's trip out to california, he's going to be meeting with 21 other world leaders for the apec

summit, and meeting with xi, the white house likely to face questions what to expect with u.s. and china relations at a tipping point like we have seen over the last several months. and talk about what you have been mentioning at the top of the last hour, the attacks on u.s. and coalition forces across the middle east. now more than 50 attacks. u.s. launching a fresh round of airstrikes overnight, trying to target some of the iranian proxies that have been carrying out the attacks. at least six fighters were killed on the missile strikes, and so far no reports of any injuries to any of those u.s. service members who were carrying out the attack or the attacks the iranian groups fired. a tit for tat, as for president biden, he has not spoken to reporters today. he got back to the white house a little earlier today to welcome the las vegas hockey team in the east room, but also an event

later this afternoon with the president of indonesia. see if the president weighs in not only the latest developments in the middle east but what he hopes to accomplish with xi jinping later this week. john. >> john: mark meredith for us, thank you. >> gillian: fighting between israeli troops and hamas militants is nearing gaza's largest hospital, causing thousands of people to evacuate and flee. this comes as hostilities between israel and hezbollah forces in lebanon reached new heights over the weekend. jeff paul joins us from southern israel. what's the latest on the ground? >> gillian, five weeks into the war, and fighting is going late into the night. in southern israel, we hear the loud outgoing artillery, and a short while ago, yet again more rockets fired from gaza into

central and southern israel. intensified fighting is making life more difficult for the folks who call gaza home. united nations relief and works agency says a breakdown civil order, adding that people are in survival mode trying to get the basics to survive. estimated two-thirds of gaza's 2.3 million have fled their homes since the start of the war. and the hamas-controlled health ministry says more than 11,000 palestinians have been hit. the al-shifa hospital, says the largest hospital has been without power for several days. idf says they have tried to evacuate babies from the neonate ward and attempted to deliver fuel but hamas would not allow the help. the israeli prime minister gave an update saying the fighting won't end until the hostages are free and hamas is no longer a threat. an we are going to win. there are no stops here.

there are no halfway here. this is not an operation. this is not a round. we are going here until the total win. >> area to keep an eye on is northern israel. we have seen a back and forth between hezbollah and israeli forces. the defense minister here in israel warning lebanon that what they are doing right now in gaza, they know how to do in beirut. gillian. >> gillian: jeff paul on the ground in southern israel. thank you. >> john: threats of a widening war in the middle east are growing. israeli forces have also moved deeper into gaza, surrounding its biggest hospital, al-shifa with troops and tanks. u.s. is actively engaged in retaliatory strikes on iranian proxy groups, latest attacks killed several militants in syria. but is it enough to get iran to stop? let's bring in defense priority

senior fellow and military expert, retired lieutenant colonel dan davis. still in response to the strike over the weekend, proxies mustache launched four more attacks against u.s. bases, including one in which 17 missiles were fired. biden may be sending a message but the iranian proxies and iran at large ain't getting the message. >> yeah. i think they are laughing at the message. we have to be honest. there is no intent for these groups to stop attacking americans. why i keep beating the drums on fox news here every time i come on that we need to get those troops out of there. because being in iraq and in syria, all they are doing is being a point of strategic vulnerability to say. they are it issing in the -- sitting in the desert waiting

until it finally kills an american and then pressure on the president to expand greater his response, into iran itself, and a chance of escalating the war higher. iran will do something in retaliation before that. so, these are not going to deter them, the very small pinprick, they need to get the troops out of harm's way. >> john: as far as banging the drum, call you john bonham, but keith is banging the drum as well. something on "fox & friends" and then john kirby's response in the last hour. >> it's not comprehensive enough just dealing with the proxies themselves. what am i talking about? go after the leaders, after the fighters, after the rockets, missiles, drones, logistical infrastructure, do it all at once in one night. that's well within u.s. strike

capability. no risk to a single pilot in doing that. that i think may get their attention. >> go after targets we believe are going to have an opportunity here degrade the irgc ability to resource and fund and provide material to these groups and those targets that we hit over the weekend do exactly that. training facility, headquarters facility, we know in one of them, one of them they were using it to store weapons. >> john: i followed up with kirby after that, and said but it has not stopped them from doing it. so, they may be degrading their capabilities, but certainly not bending their will. >> it's not degrading anything. it's not like they are going to the warehouse, they have things spread out throughout the region. plenty of places to get ammunition and weapons from. this won't do anything. small scale. but i have to say, i take definite issue with general keane. sorry, i got to say, because what he is suggesting has a much

higher probability of causing an escalation of the war, not a diminution of the war. we don't want a wider war. so they know they can continue doing this because they do want a wider war. they do want something that can cause the united states to come in, not too big, they don't think we are going to get sucked into a full war, because biden said he doesn't want that but something like what keen says, that will explode the area against the west and against israel. it's not in our favor or in our interest in to risk a wider war and just keeping our troops is going to get somebody killed pointlessly. >> john: in terms of a wider war, who would be involveded in a wider war? saudi arabia doesn't want anything to do with a wider war, they have been shooting down tom houthi missiles, they are sitting on the sidelines because they have to, but they are just

waiting for hamas to be decapitated and then back in negotiations with israel on the abraham accords. jordan doesn't want to get in the war, israel, uae, qatar, bahrain, talking about iran, syria, lebanon, but shouldn't the u.s. be able to, as ronald reagan did, as donald trump did, say to them in iran we are going to hit you and hit you hard. reagan attacked oil platforms and irgc bases, can't they say to iran, you want no part of this, call your dogs off? >> that's what we would like the case, john. but reagan is a great example. he pulled our troops out of lebanon instead of expanding into it. but you do have syria, you do have hezbollah, these are big problems right now. it could be a huge problem for

israel and to write them off i think is not doing israel any favors. you don't know where it's going. >> john: they'll only go if iran says go and tell iran, it's serious consequences for you if you pull that trigger, they may not pull that trigger. >> that assumes that's not what iran wants, that they don't want to expand it and i think they do want to have a limited expansion, because that helps their side. >> john: great to talk to you. thank you so much. >> gillian: back to the state department now where spokesman matt miller has been fielding questions as israeli forces encroach upon gaza's largest hospital, al-shifa. >> lay out our general principles but i'm thousands of miles away from israel. we get conflicting information, conflicting information and press reports, conflicting information from people on the ground. it is difficult to pass

definitive judgment about what has happened or should happen, i'll decline beyond what our principles are with civilian protections. >> just wanted to follow up the civilian casualties and one more. you said you have been calling on israel for quite a long time to minimize harm to civilians. i wanted to make sure, do you really think that israel is doing everything it can to minimize harm to civilians and what are the other steps that israel can take. >> we do as i said think there are additional steps to take. what they are, we have had very direct conversations with them about that, i will keep the conversations private. >> one more, please. islamic summit in saudi arabia this weekend, erdogan said the israeli minister remarks about nuclear strike on gaza revealed the existence of israel's

nuclear weapons and called on an international investigation on that. what is the u.s. position on the call for international investigation and is the u.s. aware of any potential nuclear weapons owned by israel? >> i don't have any comment on an investigation or the underlying question. i will say the remarks by that minister were completely unacceptable and we are glad they were immediately reputiated by the prime minister. >> internal dissent memo saying there is misinformation, you will not comment on the actual memo, but you have protestors yelling shame at employees as they walk out the building saying quit your job. how is morale inside this building and how is it affected by all of the noise around it? >> so i would say that the state

department, like every organization, not just in government, but around the world, contains people with a diversity of views and one of the things we think is one of our strengths, you've heard me talk to this, and the second talk to this at times. one of the strengths is we have the diversity of views and welcome people to make the views known. secretary has met with a number of people from all ranks of the department, different bureaus in the department, to hear what they think about our policy, both with respect to israel and conflict with hamas and other matters, including very controversial matters and he encourages people to provide feedback. encourages people to speak up if they disagree. it doesn't mean we are going to change our policy based on the disagreements, he's going to take recommendations and make what he thinks is the best judgment and make his recommendations to the president about what we ought to do. so, i would just say that it goes to this question of morale, we see the diversity of opinions

as a source of strength of this department, not weakness. >> i'm working for weekly bangladeshi, and publication called we are the people. as you know, bangladesh, another hot place like gaza, it will become gaza strip very soon if free and fair election is not going to take place. bangladesh is a sovereign country, 95% of the people are in favor of democracy and free, fair, participatory election. citizens of bangladesh optimistic once american starts playing a role concerning human rights and democratic process. all major political parties are working with his excellency,. why must the u.s. government discuss the bangladesh issue

with india? does it not indicate our country has been sold to india by the current regime of bangladesh. does -- >> let me -- >> conquerors. >> john: we are going to jump out, jake sullivan, national security adviser is going to be briefing at the white house a little bit later this afternoon. that briefing has been pushed back some. >> gillian: a couple of times. we'll take you there as soon as it starts. >> john: alan carr is here, he's here in town for tomorrow's march for israel in washington, d.c. . >> couple of protests, outside the president's home in delaware over the weekend. increased anti-israel protests around the country, many of them laced literally top to bottom with antisemitism. hundreds of people again protesting here in delaware. now, let's flip the script and take a look at what happened in

paris over the weekend. almost 180,000 people took to the streets of paris to protest not against israel, but against antisemitism. so, here in the united states we have this horrible raise in antisemitism and in paris, they are marching against antisemitism. why the difference? >> well, john, gillian, thanks for having me. all of us need to be marching against antisemitism because jew hatred is a barometer for societal decay and evil of all kinds and what we see in the world today is shocking. a genocide perpetrated against jews in the jewish homeland, jewish state around the world people standing up and supporting it. who have imagined the cruelty and the sadism and israel fighting for its life and people supporting it, this andsy

semitism here and simple. it means the jews have no right to be in israel, in new york, los angeles, or any campus in the country and i was at u.c. berkeley speaking and jewish students are afraid of what's happening on campus. they are bullied and some cases assaulted. >> john: it's not just berkeley, cornell, columbia. >> columbia, harvard, across the country. the protest in paris was so important and happening here in washington in our capital tomorrow is so deeply important. >> gillian: columbia, thinking while listening to you talk. it's my alma mater, columbia. i wouldn't set foot on campus during one of the protests we have seen today. i graduated 15 years ago, i never experienced antisemitism for a moment during the four years that i was a student there. not a moment. things -- the tide turned so quickly what it illustrates. >> it is, and the tide turned even more dramatically since october 7th, right.

and think of what that implies. here jews butchered in numbers not since the holocaust and this encourages antisemitism? now people say let's finish the job, calling for israel to be wiped off the map, harassing jewish students, shoving them, bullying, some cases, assaulting them, cornell threatening to kill them. this is absolutely appalling and this march tomorrow in washington is yes, it's about supporting israel, yes, it's about allowing israel to finish the job and eliminate the threats against it. make no mistake march, and the largest gathering jews and pro-israel americans, also about fighting antisemitism here and saying enough is enough. >> john: i was wondering if in paris, maybe the reason why there was so big protests against antisemitism is because the holocaust for them may be a

little bit more close to home because it happened there, than it is folks here in the united states. but think ok, it should be the same in britain, right. but it's not. listen to what some of these protestors at an anti-israel pro-palestinian march in london said. >> continued existence of israel is a war crime. >> hamas invaded israel the 7th of october. what was your initial reaction. >> i didn't think they did, did they? >> i think so. honestly, i think i need to be a bit more clued up on everything that's going on. >> john: a couple people didn't know why they were marching and another says the very existence of israel is a war crime. >> actually, that is a very, very important quote you just played for us because that's what this is really about. >> john: the people with no clue or completely wrong? >> to many have no clue but very, very many people who believe jews have no place.

antisemitism, delegitimizing the jewish state and homeland and the jewish people as a people and it's happening across the country and that's why we have to stand up like these good people did in paris, and like many americans are coming to do tomorrow in washington, d.c. on the national mall, a place of enormous historical significance to say enough is enough. jews do have a right, jews have a right to live in the united states and in europe and yes, in the jewish homeland in the lands of israel, and that is what we are standing for tomorrow in this historic march. >> gillian: quickly. do you think tiktok accounts for all of the pro hamas disinformation that's causing young people in this country to be so critical of israel or is there more to it than that? >> there's more to it than that, antisemitism pre-dates social media, and when i was special envoy i dealt directly, social

media and the internet is a very, very powerful vector for societal disease and we see antisemitism spreading in -- one precedent speed because of social media. it's something that has to be addressed, first amendment, of course, has to be protected and preserved, free speech protected, we have to address the tsunami on social media. >> john: we will watch the march. breaking moments ago, the supreme court says it is adopting a code of ethics for the very first time. david spunt live in washington with the breaking news. >> this is after repeated calls from democrats and some republicans for the nine justices on the supreme court to be held to some sort of code of conduct. the justices have said they have abided by common rule ethics practices. 14 page, including the cover page, several different canons,

and this comes after several justices, including justice clarence thomas, justice sonia sota-mayor, and a justice may accept reasonable compensation and reimbursements of expenses for permitted activities if the source of the payments does not give the appearance of influencing the justice's official duties or otherwise appear improper. john and gillian, senator dick durbin with the judiciary committee has been pushing for a specific code of conduct for justices waiting to hear exactly what he has to say. this is the first time we have seen at the supreme court an official code of conduct signed by all nine of the supreme court justices. see if they can live up to it, john. >> john: some interesting news. david, thank you. gillian. >> gillian: also this, a brutal

beating outside a high school resulting in the death of a 17-year-old student. his family says he was attacked for defending a friend. las vegas police are investigating his death as a homicide. william, how many suspects are there? >> according to las vegas police, as many as 15 teens, but in this video you are about to see, probably not that many. so, jonathan lewis died on tuesday about a week after an attack near his high school left him on life support. according to his father, being lewis was standing up for a smaller friend who had been robbed and thrown in a trash bin. that's what the retaliation began. lewis is punched and kicked by classmates. his father set up a gofundme page, said jonathan lived with his mother in vegas but planned to move in with him in texas. but, look at this video again.

you are going to see another teen in light colored pants, try to help lewis, and when the pack will then turn on him, chasing, punching, knocking him to the ground. almost two weeks after the incident, still no arrests, police have not said if race is a factor, and 93% minority, lewis was white. will some of these teens be charged as adults with manslaughter or murder. as for the evidence, we have seen just this one video but appears at least three other students filmed the assault as well. back to you. >> gillian: quite a story. william, thank you. john. >> are you ok? can you ask them if they are ok? dramatic footage showing texas officers rescuing two unaccompanied minor children near the southern border.

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>> john: white house briefing room where in a little while we expect jake sullivan, the national security adviser to take podium to talk about the conflict in israel, and more admonitions for israel to be careful when it comes to civilians, particularly when it closes in on al-shifa hospital, operating as a hospital, although hamas is apparently operating headquarters underneath the complex and the complex calculation is how do you dislodge hamas without affecting civilians. so, watching for that in the

next little while. gillian. >> gillian: cities across the country are reaching a crisis point. overwhelmed by an influx of migrants across the southern border. migrants are beginning to take note. undocumented immigrants in new york city are refusing tent shelters in brooklyn, demanding instead to return to hotel accommodations in manhattan. in chicago, migrants are moving back to venezuela because the city is out of resources and unable to house and support them. "fox & friends" co-host brian kilmeade joins us, author of "a timeless legacy," i guess it's hardly surprising that undocumented folks coming to cities in the united states are starting to take note of the fact that a crisis that has been going on, you know, for months and months and months is now actually beginning to impact them and they are going back home. >> brian: right.

break my heart to see the venezuelans no longer sleeping on the streets and forced to go back to where they belong. give me a second to compose myself. now i feel better. and who would have thought in chicago sleeping on the street would be cold in the winter. a reason why in chicago you stay indoors as much as possible so you come here, you get on a bus and 20,000 are there, they stay in police stations and on the street, and the mayor, who says i'm a sanctuary city and the governor who says i'm a sanctuary state says excuse me, it's not working out, joe biden is not picking up the phone, so working class americans showing up at city council meeting to say excuse me, stop with the sanctuary status, don't you think our homeless veterans deserve priority over this, i saw this stat, too, cost us

$451 billion to take in illegal immigrants because we can't get our act together at the border. i should say the president, the white house, and this administration. $451 billion. is that unbelievable how much it's costing us? and now you have a new york assembly woman who watches them dismount, disembark from a bus in new york, her name is jamie williams, and is shocked when they looked at floyd bennet field, in the middle of nowhere in brooklyn and go i don't want to stay here. i'm not going to stay in a tent. i'm going to go back, and she said wait a second, i wanted to have great campaign video of you going into this wonderful soft sided facility in brooklyn where there is absolutely nothing to do and nowhere to go. so back to manhattan, no room, but if you do go in there, we will wash your sheets and your laundry and give you a mini menu of three meals a day. everything is wrong with this. >> one venezuelan family quoted

in the chicago tribune saying if we are going to be sleeping in the streets here, we would rather be sleeping in the streets over there, meaning venezuela, that family has since embarked on a mission home. there is an element of real tragedy here, a lot of these folks go through, you know, very difficult conditions in order to make their way here, nobody was realistic, nobody told them, no government officials are telling them what it's actually going to be like here. they see media footage of people being put up in manhattan hotels, it's a far different picture than as you just pointed out the reality for a lot of these folks. >> some of them are in a better life, no doubt about it. now that kids can't play soccer at randall's island and menu, three meals a day, and walk over the bridge and the best city in the world that offers all this

opportunities that is better than venezuela, gone communist, which according to reports really sucks and everybody wants out. but we can't take in everybody from every country that can't run their government. it's not possible. we have a system, nobody else is doing this. and now we are finding out that illegal immigrants have standards that we can't reach. and my heart is supposed to break. i just can't. i have more -- i'm thinking american needy first. i don't think that's selfish. there are so many americans in need. i would rather our money go to the americans in need. >> gillian: brian, got to leave it there. thanks for taking time as always. >> you've got it. >> john: i don't understand why he keeps sugar coating things. now to the southern border itself, harrowing footage shows texas troopers rescuing two unaccompanied minor children smuggled. several adult men and gang member, fled the scene without taking the children with them.

how old were these children, bill? >> john, one was nine, the other was seven. two little children from mexico who texas dps says were trafficked to california when the trooper got involved and started with a traffic stop. right to the text dps video. one of the troopers working alone in kinney county, pulled over a smuggler, a known gang member, illegal immigrants in the vehicle. you'll see some of the illegal immigrants open the doors and start baling out one by one, trying to run off not brush in order to escape. the trooper pops the trunk and finds the two children smuggled in the back. a 9-year-old and 7-year-old, two little mexican children who dps says were on the way to california, smuggled by the people. and none of the people went for the kids. they were not parents, they were not guardians, they were not relatives, it was a gang member and unknown adult men, dps says

who knows who was happening to the children or what was going to happen to them when they got to their destination. take a listen. >> the fact of the matter is, what happens to these children during that transport, who is going to receive these children and what happens if those trying to receive these children don't have the money to pay, well, now we see these type of, you know, disturbing events of children's exposed to sex trafficking, labor trafficking. >> john, this is how the human trafficking traffic stops, dps helicopter as a group of illegal immigrants are off the brush, a human smuggler pulls up, they expect the smuggler to go deeper into the country. unfortunately for them, the helicopter was watching, a trooper pulled it over and everybody in that vehicle got arrested. but that's the sort of thing you see in texas. lastly, arizona.

take a look at the ands, tucson, arizona sector, the epi sec tr, 2,000 illegal crossings, near san miguel, arizona on an indian reszer vagus, -- indian reservation, nonstop out here, guys. and border patrol also reporting over the weekend they arrested five sex offenders and two confirmed gang members, one of which was an ms13 member, john. back to you. >> john: and the numbers for october soon, see if the problem continues unabated. bill, thank you. gillian. >> gillian: mit is under intense scrutiny over a decision to not suspend anti-israel students who threatened their jewish classmates. the reason administrators decided not to discipline them coming up next.

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>> john: we are awaiting the white house briefing with jake sullivan, national security adviser in a few minutes. meantime, the president was in the oval office, there was a pool spray there, he did say a couple things to the pool regarding israel, he said that he hopes that there will be less intrusive action at the al-shifa hospital in gaza. he said the hospital must be protected. also says an effort to use the pause to deal with the release of prisoners, saying that is being negotiated with qatar. so, we hope to get those comments in just a little while and of course more with the national security adviser coming up. >> gillian: in the meantime, paul pelosi is set to testify in

the federal trial for david depape. it's a year since depape broke into the home and almost killed him. the first time we are going to hear him speaking publicly about that day? >> that early morning hour, october 28th of last year, that's right, gillian, and expected gripping testimony, he describes being awakened in the middle of the night by a stranger, looking for his wife, and calling 911 and then attacked with a hammer and nearly killed. all of that is coming up later this afternoon. so far this morning, the jury has heard and seen in very compelling evidence, they have seen pictures of what david depape brought with him when he broke into the pelosi's home, backpacks with cameras, hard

drives, and how he used an online search company to track down nancy pelosi's home address. for the government, it's strong evidence to show he carefully planned to find nancy pelosi and take her hostage. when she was not home, he attacked her husband instead. the defense, though, is focusing on depape obsession with wild conspiracy theories and rather stunning opening statement, the defense lawyer argued the kidnapping plot had nothing to do with nancy pelosi's job as a member of congress. but he wanted to use to get to the speaker to get to individuals such as hunter biden and governor newsom who he felt were hurting the country and sexually abusing children. legal analysts say it's a noninsanity insanity defense, to say that he was so delusional he could not be guilty of the charges he faces in federal

court. when paul pelosi testifies as a victim and witness, he will take us through the events that led up to the attack and he will talk in detail about the emotional and physical trauma. members of the family are expected to be on hand, even possibly his wife, of 60 years, nancy pelosi. gillian. >> gillian: claudia, thank you, in san francisco. john. >> john: gillian, former president donald trump's legal team presenting its case in the ongoing civil fraud trial. his attorney hinting she will be filing a mistrial very soon. so, professor, donald trump, jr. was on the stand testifying on behalf of the defense, the judge said welcome back, donald trump, jr. responded if he said it's good -- he said i would say it's good to be here, but i'm afraid

that the attorney general would sue me for perjury. a little sardonic wit there but does demonstrate what he believes is the bias against him and his family. >> well, it's a view that is shared by millions of people, and there is some support for it. you know, i think there is evidence that some property was overvalued, that is a very common problem in new york real estate, as a common practice. the question is why the attorney general has opted for this nuclear option to go for hundreds of millions of dollars, bar trump from doing business in new york and the answer is she ran on these types of pledges. that's why she's there, you know, you watched the proceedings and she is right there in the background beaming with pride as if she's at the spot of a thrill kill. and that's what it is, you know. she promised that she would ban trump and his family, she didn't say what she would do it on, and this is the result. using a new york law that is

virtually unique. it does not require anyone lost money. does not require any business is a victim. it just allows the attorney general to go after these oversized penalties against someone who is obviously very unpopular in new york city. >> so judge engoron has determined the trumps are guilty. listen to what donald trump, jr. said when he was taking the stand as a prosecution witness last week. >> for even having a day in court, i'm apparently guilty of fraud for relying on my accountants to do, wait for it, accounting. >> john: so the defense team is trying to limit the damage here, as you said, she's going for $250 million and making sure trump can't ever do business in new york city. what's the defense's strategy here to try to limit the damage, to try to gather enough evidence

that they could go to the appellate court, alina has said maybe mistrial as well. >> i'm not sure about a mistrial option here, but you could win on either extreme, right. if the judge goes and bars him from new york, and imposes hundreds of millions of dollars in damages, it's going to raise serious questions on appeal. otherwise, if the judge yields to some of this evidence and reduces those damages, then the trump family can continue to do business in new york. in some ways you can't blame trump, jr. from feeling like this is a play that is continuing after the audience has already left. i mean, the judge has already said that the trump corporation is guilty of fraud, and so the only effort here for the trump team is create that record for review later and they are really hammering away at the fact that

these estimates came with a disclaimer that said don't take our word for it. trump was well known to overvalue property. i remember when i worked with another network, we looked at one of his bank filings and it had billions of dollars just for name recognition. the funny thing about that is that it wasn't really fraud because he was saying that's how i got to this number. i actually think my name is worth billions of dollars. so, this case sort of grows out of that, that is the practice in new york, and also the fact that none of the banks complained, none of them lost money, no one lost money. >> john: and the bottom line with real estate -- bottom line with anything, particularly with celebrity name attached to it, is it is worth whatever anyone is willing to pay for it. jonathan turley, always good to see you. thank you. >> thanks, john. >> john: case in point, eric --

sorry, we got to go to the white house, oh, no, donald trump, jr. is speaking. >> very large banks get paid millions of dollars, no complaint from them but o overzealous attorney general, implication for future fraud they don't donate to the political campaign for any businesses operating in and around new york are truly staggering. that shouldn't surprise anyone based on anything from this attorney general, any knowledge running and today, it's a sad state of affairs for new york and again, when there is no actual person complaining other than the attorney general herself. it sets a precedent or insurance companies will start suing hospital patients for listening to their doctors. are they going to go after any transaction that doesn't contribute to their political

campaigns. i would think this precedent would make it impossible to do business in or around new york city, but based on everything else i see in new york these days, it doesn't seem like they care. hopefully one day the people of the great city will realize what's going on, destructive practices here, how insane that is and begging for donald trump to come back to new york city to reshape the skyline as it has done for decades. >> gillian: you are listening -- >> we have to keep doing it, that's the nature of all of this. it's a rough day for myself, family, very close with especially her grandson, and it's the day, but at this age in our lives, it's just another day. >> will you be back tomorrow? >> i don't believe so, i think we are done. >> gillian: donald trump, jr. speaking outside the courtroom

after he exited, and sad news for his family, former president donald trump's sister maryanne barry passed away at 86, saying it's a tough day for his family. we also want to -- i think we are going to head back to the white house now, check in over there. jake sullivan, the national security adviser is briefing. let's listen in. >> infrastructure and investment, pgi event with major ceos and governments that will demonstrate how we are identifying new ways of working with the u.s. private sector to drive high standard investment in the indo-pacific and infrastructure and innovation and other areas to unlock sustainable long-term growth. we are also hosting an event with major foreign ceos focused on how president biden's economic policies, combined with our strong partnership with asia pacific economies are driving

historic and outsize investments in the united states, critical and emerging technologies and other areas and good paying jobs for american workers. finally, before i take questions, i want to give a brief update on the middle east. united states continues to work around the clock to support efforts to rescue and reunite hostages held by hamas with their families where they belong. this includes many young children. one of whom is a 3-year-old american citizen toddler whose parents were tragically killed by hamas on october 7th. this is a top priority for president biden, for vice president harris, secretary blinken, for me personally. we have all spoking with families of u.s. citizens who are being held hostage by hamas and have raised this issue with all of our counterparts. this remains a paramount priority for us. just yesterday president biden spoke with the amir of qatar to discuss the important efforts and important negotiations ongoing to try and secure the release of the hostages being held by hamas.

and later today here at the white house i'll be meeting with some of the families of the americans who were currently being held. the united states has also been leading efforts to increase the flow of lifesaving sustained humanitarian assistance, food, water, medicine, into gaza. while we have made some progress, much more is needed to alleviate suffering among the population in gaza. we are glad to see israel take an important step in this direction last week and remain inactive discussions with the israeli government about the importance of tactical humanitarian pauses in fighting to permit civilians to depart areas of active hostility, and enable hostage releases. continue to have discussions at all levels, including with prime minister benjamin netanyahu to urge israel to take every possible measure to protect civilians. the loss of a single innocent life is a tragedy, whether it's a palestinian civilian, israeli

civilian or anyone else and we grieve for every innocent who is lost. the same time, stand behind the proposition that israel has the right to defend itself against terrorist attacks. and with hamas as i've said, you are dealing with an organization that has come out publicly since october 7th and said it intends to commit another october 7th and another one and another one until israel no longer exists. you have a leading spokesman saying the objective is a permanent state of war with reality. that's what they are confronting and unacceptable for any nation. >> you said yesterday and the president said just now in the oval office that hospitals in gaza need to be protected. do you believe that the israelis have received that message and have they had any response? >> so, first, what the president has just said and what i've said, we do not want to see

firefights in hospitals. we want to see patients protected, hospitals protected. we have spoken with the israeli government about this and they have said they share that view, they do not want to see firefights in hospital and you've heard from idf spokespeople stating things along those lines. israeli government has told us they are prepared to provide fuel to hospitals to ensure that they can continue to operate, and that for certain hospitals they actually have not been able to be in communication with the people who are actually running the hospital. so that's something we will continue to work on. the position of the united states on this matter is clear. hospitals should be protected, hospitals should be able to run effectively so that medical care can be given to patients. and finally, to the extent people need to be evacuated from one hospital to another hospital in order to ensure the continuation of care, evacuation routes have to be safe and the israeli government has told us as recently as today that there are and will continue to be evacuation routes for people

leaving hospital compounds. so, these are positions that for us are straightforward, they are clear, we have a constructive discussion with the israeli government on this, and i believe that they have indicated they hold similar positions on these issues. now, as for what happens on the ground, you know, in a given hour, a given day, we can't react to every individual report. we can simply continue to state our position and continue to consult with the israeli government to ensure that they are doing their best to fulfill their stated position. >> and more broadly, the u.s. is now focused on two wars, one in the middle east, one in ukraine. what would it mean for this government and in particular foreign policy and the military if there were to be a government shutdown come friday night. >> this would be a devastating blow, first of all the service members at a very human level, it would have an impact on the ability of our troops and their families to get the benefits and services they provide for the service they are performing for

our country. second, it would send a signal to the world that the united states cannot pull together on a bipartisan basis to sustain government funding and show united face to the world at a moment you see the turbulence around the world. we would support congress coming together around a measure that would fund the government and not have a shut down occur at the end of the week. >> the president also said an effort to use the pause to deal with the release of prisoners and been negotiated with qatar. can you amplify on that a bit? >> yes, there have been ongoing discussions with the government of qatar and in fact, president biden as i mentioned spoke by telephone by the amir of qatar. qatar has been talking to hamas, israel talking to qatar, the united states is talking to both israel and qatar in an effort to move forward negotiations to the point where hostages can be released and reunited with their

families. we are not there yet, but are continuing to try to make progress day-by-day, hour by hour, and the president >> on the trip itself, what does the president plan to tell president xi to reign in proxy attacks in the middle east? >> deescalation rather than escalation should be the order of the day. president biden will make the point to president xi that iran acting in an escalatory, de-stabilizing way undermines stability across the middle east is not in the interests of the prc or any other responsible country. the prc has a relationship with iran. its capable to make those points. >> your listening live to the white house briefing from jake sullivan. he's been pressed about whether

or not the administration is making any progress in the ongoing hostage negotiations taking place via the government of qatar. he said nothing to announce right now. he hopes to have more information coming out soon. nine americans are believed to be held hostage. >> back to donald trump as well. kirk co bain used to play a martin d-18 from 1959. price about $200. it was sold for $6 million. that is 40,000 times the original price. >> that's good work if you can get it. >> john: good to be with you. >> good to be with you. >> john: i'm john roberts. i'm jilgi