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>> welcome everybody and happy weekend i'm neil cavuto so glad to have you with us we have a busy two hour plans for you let's go first to southern israel where readying something we don't know what trey yingst has the very latest. hey trey. reporter: we're following reports out of gaza about a u.n. school that was hit by a strike a large explosion killing many palestinians. we've reached out to israeli military for comment trying to identify the exact source of this strike and we'll certainly update you as we get those details. but it comes as israelis target hamas positions along gaza strip supporting their infantry troops operate on the ground in the northern apartment of gaza. pushing deeper into gaza city, there are reports of leaflets dropped in southern part of the strip and indication israel may expand their operation to there.

they've been trying to target a number of islamic jihad and hamas positions. and as we're talking here, neil, i can feel in my pocket here, alerts going off. there is new rocket fire toward what appears to be central israel. 43 days into this conflict, the organizations inside gaza including hamas and islamic jihad maintaining their ability to fire on southern and central israel. really remarkable given amount that air strikes that have taken place against gaza inside the strip much of the international focus remains on gaza al-shifa hospital with hundred of palestinians receiving treatment. they've been given water and food by the israelis but doctors there say they need anesthesia and medicine as some palestinians reported evacuated the facility this morning. i do want to draw your attention, though, to northern israel where new rocket fire took place today. fired by the lebanese militant group hezbollah at this hour israel target the sourings of that rocket fire. and as we zoom out from all of

this, attacks continue by iranian proxies target u.s. interest against middle east on this map more than 60 different attacks since this war began 43 days ago and american forces bracing for expectation that iran and its proxies will continue to target american interest across the middle east. neil. neil: all right trey please be safe and your crew as well great reporting as always my friend in the meantime near the president in wilmington, delaware after the meeting with the chinese leader and apec summit but growing pressure for a cease-fire not coming from those abroad but a number of unidentified and critics here. lucas tomlinson has more. lucas. reporter: that's right neil the big take away from the meeting with the chinese counterpart is they met face-to-face for the first anytime a year and agreements were made and effort to curb fentanyl although note thabl president xi made a agreement in 2014 here's the

former secretary of state about those meetings with president xi. >> he will promise whatever it takes to get through the meeting and president biden foolishly accepted comements including commitment to reduce fentanyl precursors i don't think xi jinping will ever do he bought commitments as real promises from the communist chinese party and no reason to believe he will live up to any of them. reporter: protest continue in the nation capitol with mounting pressure after hundreds of government officials from 40 departments and agencies signed an anonymous letter demanding a cease-fire and opposing president's handling of the israeli hamas war but there's another letter circling -- not anonymous of 100 former members biden administration praising biden, quote, moral clarity courageous leadership and staunch support of israel. and new fox news poll support the president handling of the war and for israel. let's take a look, the support for the israelis is at 66%.

support for the palestinians, 22%. as you can see here, supporting neither 8% now that's where the good news ends neil, the president support on a host of other issues still underwater. the president's job approval rating on national security overall 40%. israeli hamas war just 39% guns 36%, and immigration economy inflation all underwater now here's president biden in san francisco on the economy. >> strength of our economy is driving growth and spurring investment throughout our region. >> now this is a tax on u.s. forces in the middle east continues there's now been over 60 against american soldiers in the middle east over the past month. u.s. military has responded just three times about once for every 20 attacks, neil. neil: would you that's not a good ratio there all right lucas thank you so much. lucas tomlinson and president of wilmington, delaware this

weekend let's go to senior aferredz to israeli president benjamin netanyahu good to have you and thanks for taking the time you know they've been hearing pressure globally for israel to mitt to a cease-fire. and now the president is hearing it from members within his own party. and outside of his party, does that kind of talk mark, worry you? >> neil it is important between pauses which we are ding and we will continue to do toen sure that humanitarian aid reaches people. to make sure that people can escape dangerous areas that sort of thing we've been doing and we are doing that's a specific timeout in a specific area for a specific time. but a general cease-fire to let up on hamas we've said we will only do that for the release of our hostages. otherwise we're going to -- that will be temporary. we are going to continue the campaign against hamas and let me explain why. those people who believe in a cease-fire maybe they don't

understand -- but it means hamas remains in power. it remains gaza remains a terror enclave ruled by a brutal terrorist organization. that means we're going to have more violence down the road so i can understand emotionally some people think oh it is stop the bloodshed but it is a band-aid solution but a quick fix that means a month from now four months from now a year from now you have more massacres like we had on october 7th and hamas leadership, they say that hamas leadership says we will do it again and again and again. we can't let them do so. neil: they've been very clear about that. let me ask you, though, much has been made of what you -- and your sol scrers have discovered beneath this al-shifa hospital hamas military compound there. down to showing not only the tunls under that hospital but a cash of weapons and the like. and why yet showing pretty mucht

was there you're still having a devil of a time one organization put it proving it. well you did show it. does that frustrate you? >> in my line of work it is not good to get frustrated but we'll be showing more and more as day goes -- as days go on. yes as we secure the area and it is possible to bring in cameras and to bring in journalist so they can see with their own eyes and i have no doubt they'll be showing more but what confuses people and maybe this needs to be explained is you get all of the people in the hospital, gaza say we've never seen hamas and no information whatsoever about there being underground fortifications yes but people have to understand gaza is not a democracy. georgia is is ruled by a very brutal authoritarian terrorist group, hamas. and people who would speak out and say the truths and say we actually know that hamas has a military compound underneath hospital, they would pay a price. they would face retribution,

retribution so every time you hear someone around the hospital area someone in gaza says no we've never seen hamas here you have to know that they can't say anything else. if they did say anything else they would be in serious trouble with their local authorities. neil: let me ask you about a dust up within the prime minister's own party and opposition leader, saying that benjamin netanyahu has to go. he's for a variety of reasons doesn't like the guy think he's handled war wrong and what led up to it but still a member of the prime minister's party -- but not him. what do you think of that? >> so we have a parliamentarian democracy like in britain and germany not a presidential system like you have in the u.s. and job of the leader of the opposition is to bring on government that's the constitutional responsibility in our system but i think what is important to remember -- what is important to remember is

that since this terrible october 7th massacre of our people, you've seen a sense of common purpose and unity in israel. like never before. and the truth is, not mr. himself but major parties from the opposition have actually joined the government in this -- emergency wartime coalition because there's a sense that look, first thing we've got to do is we've got to defeat hamas. we've got to get the hostages back. we've got to make sure when this is over that there's no longer a terror group running gaza and that can inflict sort of bloodshed on our people like they did on october 7th. so i think the feeling in the country now is we need victory. we need to win this. this is going to require a national effort we need unity for that once that's all done we can go back to economics in usual but at the moment we have to concentrate on winning this war. >> all right he will be with me later on in this show so i one of the things i noticed is that impatience with the way benjamin

netanyahu and handling of the war we're only six weeks into that, and this whole thing. but does that part of that bother you six weeks in and already someone saying this thing isn't working. >> so i disagree. first of all if this is going to be done properly and destroy hamas and have a new reality in gaza where it will no longer be ruled by this terrorist organization -- that could require time. and i understand everyone wants this to be over quickly israelis would like it to be over quickly that's the automatic response most people feel but no it is more important that this is done properly. very close friend of mine -- was recently at a home of an israeli soldier who was killed in fighting in gaza and -- we have, you know, you make like a call upon the family it is tradition. and he said to me that message was get this done. that we've lost some 50 soldiers in ground operation so far and we're going lose more and people

understand this has to be done. we refuse neil -- israelis refuse to live next to a terror enclave any longer we saw what that brings it brought out the terrible massacre of october 7th as you've said before they will do it again and again and again, and unless we eliminate them. and we have to eliminate hamas but ultimately must be remembered that's not just good for israel and doesn't just bring safety and security to the israeli people. but that's ultimately also good for the people of gaza who deserve better than this authoritarian terrorist regime that bought them nothing but hardship, misery, bloodshed and poverty. neil: mark thank you very much. very strongly stated senior israel to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu be safe, be well, mark thank you again. >> thank you for having me. neil: by the way, in the next block we're going to talk about growing global protest talk about disrupt and the meantime talk about a second spacex

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[chanting] ♪ ♪ gleel is got anxious in new york city last night following a general theme at night they holding protest this was a pro-palestinian one and similar protest in washington, d.c. held for commuters just trying to get home, even those trying to come in, all is quiet now but

more are being planned. that is the way this goes, alexandria huff in washington with more. alexandria. reporter: protest becoming increasingly disruptive local and federal law enforcement agencies particularly in large cities that remained in a near cob stangt state of high alert that was amplified yesterday in new york city as you were pointing out pro-palestinian groups gathered first by hundreds and union square and bryant park a map of landmarks businesses, and news organizations have been circulated to target the bank of new york mellon on that list with protesters shouting shame as people made their way inside location and separate locations accused by group of committing genocide on the palestinian people. demonstrators gathered outside "new york times" entered our headquarters lobby as well. now in the bay area, thursday morning, pro-palestinian protesters shut down the bay bridge by abandoning their cars and chaining themselves together. world leaders including president biden were in the area for the apec summit at that

time. an here in d.c. mostly peaceful very large pro-palestinian and pro-israel rallies taken place ten days apart. monday march for israel feature ten tens of thousands on national mall voicing solidarity and fight against hamas and on wednesday, i mean, chaos outside of the democratic national committee headquarters, police say around 200 protesters were demanding cease-fire turned to violence they blocked entrances and exits of the building. members of congress were inside including democratic representative brad sherman who is jewish. >> the statement of the capitol police is very clear these were violent demonstrators they assaulted police officers and punched police officers they. er sprayed them and these are the capitol police. >> a 24-year-old was arrested for punching a female officer in the face six officers total were treated for injuries. the group if not now claiming to be an organizer this have protest that latest one here in

d.c., neil. neil: incredible and all right alexandria thank you in washington and meanwhile joe manchin stepping at the same manchin stepping at the same time nick cany haley is ramping. we'll explore after this. . you know you can get these all at once, right dad? the holidays got sweeter with same-day delivery. you got this. we got you.

neil: senator joe manchin was saying today that he would absolutely consider a presidential run. extensively as independent candidate maybe no label candidate. what do you think of that? >> joe manchin deserves a most serious consideration if we get to that point and here's the standard. we don't want just do this for the sake of doing it if we offer

our ballots to a bipartisan ticket. we want to feel that we have a chance to win and a little that we're not going to be spoilers for one candidate or the other. if we get to that point, joe manchin deserves the most respectful consideration. if he's interested -- because he's earned it. neil: all right. one joe says it is joe -- joe manchin, the west virginia democrat doesn't want to run for senate seat and might be setting sights on independent run and political correspondent what do you think about that and impact as manning would run no label nominee? >> well that's one of the big questions that have been hovering over the upcoming contest is just how much of an impact some of these third party candidates might have on president biden or might have on donald trump. we saw after senator manchin

announced he wouldn't be running for reelection two democrat senators and his own party, senator mark warner and senator murphy have different interpretationings of how he might hurt or help biden wariner warned him against running as a third party candidate saying he would help trump get the -- trump win. whereas murphy had the opposite take, you know, what we've seen in polling so far with candidates like robert f. kennedy, like senator manchin getting in the race, is that the hurt is pretty much spread equally among biden and trump. but you know, i will say when it comes to kennedy in particular, it seem like he does pull away some from trump supporters. neil: you have to wonder they're all in the mix if rfk is independent candidate i stress right now that could change. manchin could poll very very

well and might be equal tug on either of the name party nominees if it were for example, joe biden as democratic nominee and donald trump again as a republican one. how much does either have to worry about this? >> you know, i think both campaigns are keeping a really close eye on this. and watching what these candidates are doing and decisions that are being made. i would emphasize with third party candidates you know, it take a lot of effort to get on the ballot and all of these states -- it's a real organizing force. you have to get a certain amount of signatures to get your name on there. specific dates, so that's always a caveat with talking about these third party candidates. i do think about this one politico analysis that's one of my colleagues did which i thought was interesting with done rs that gone to rfk in particular, they found that a

lot of them were former trump voters or trump donors excuse me. who were giving to kennedy's campaign but again, it seems like the hurt is pretty much spread evenly among them. but the campaigns are geng to be watching this really closely. neil: speaking of campaigns, and again, nikki haley is one surging in the poll the right now still trailing donald trump by a country of a mile but nationally in battle ground states thus far -- in iowa and new hampshire but has not stopped eric levine big contributor getting into the campaign i spoke with him earlier this week meredith and he kind of explained yz he committed dough to her. >> what did you base the move to why nikki haley? >> pots that matter iowa, new hampshire, and south carolina in those we see nikki haley rising and donald trump either plateauing or dipping somewhat. and ron desantis flat lining we get into one-on-one

competition nikki haley will beat donald trump. >> what do you think of that? >> there's no doubt that nikki haley's stock is on the rise right now and i know for her campaign they really want to make this look like it's -- trump versus nicky haley and not trump versus rest of the field and that's really going to be her challenge as we barrel towards iowa. you know, looking like this is a two-way race and not truch versus haley and desantis and all of the other ones. but i will say nikki haley has seen a surge in donor support. she's getting looks from very deep pocketed serious republican donors who have given are looking to give like the man that you just spoke to. so she really does have a lot of momentum. but it will be interesting to see how that ends up playing out in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, as we move forward.

the path is narrow for her to win the nomination. but you know, she does keep pressing ahead. neil: yeah. pat is now and so is the time range right we're less than two months away from iowa. all right thank you meredith great catching up with you on all of this. >> thank you. neil: all right you heard about the senator and union president who went at each other. we tried to broker an agreement. we'll see if we succeeded after this. >> want to do is right now? stand your butt up then -- oh. stop it. your solution -- sit down. get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a digital money coach in the chase mobile® app. use it to set and track your goals, big and small... and see how changes you make today... could help put them within reach. from your first big move to retiring poolside -

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>> tweeted at me, one, two, three, four five times and let me read what the last one said. said greedy ceo who pretends like he's self-made i wish you were in the truck with me when i was building the company myself and quit the senate hearings you know where to find me any place any time cowboy -- sir this is a time this is a place, you want to run your mouth we can be two consenting adults and finish it here. >> okay that's fine perfect. >> you want to do it right now? >> well stand your butt up then. >> you stand -- stop it. >> solution -- >> no, no sit down.

>> look at you. you're a united states senator. >> active -- sit down please. >> i still think my favorite there was bernie sanders playing peacemaker nobel prize hello i decided that it would be a good time to talk to senator mullin what happened here and also to hear from teamster president shawn o'brien maybe i can broker some sort of of a peace agreement. take a look. >> i know people say this is incumbent of a senator but i remind people i'm a guy from oklahoma first and you don't run your mouth like that and unfortunately he did. and i call him out on it. i don't like bullies i never dealt good with bullies at all i've raised my boys they stand up for other people and guy like that when you run your mouth you need to be called out if that requires -- you getting -- unfortunately punched in the face that's what's beg to happen every now and threaten because there's consequences an i've

raised my kids understanding that too. >> gone viral playing all over the world right now i bet you doesn't even anticipate that. but -- do you regret any of that and do you think it might be wise for you to get together i know shawn o'brien president question here talked about idea about you having a cup of coffee. where does that stand? >> sure, listen i don't attack it personally i fought professionally when i used to as a ked you get in brawls every now and then in your backyard or with your buddies whoever it is you get up and dust yourself off. you wipe your mut and you go on and keep playing with shawn if it is not partial to me necessarily. probably been a good day and take the frustration but if -- wanted to sit down. neil: hit a nerve with you. what was of all of the things he supposedly said what got your goat more than anything else?

>> calling me out when he said you know where to find me -- any time any place. that right there was i'm like okay how do i not respond to that? and i mean serious he actually called me out. now, you know my background. most of your audience knows my background. do you expect me not to answer that? so i'm going to respond back to him he had a choice he could apologize. and say man i shouldn't have said that okay we're good. but when he said yeah, do that now like okay two consent adults handle this right now. at that point i'm not going to back down. neil: going watching back you were there you know far more than i do he was ready to do it. so -- >> sure. >> but she sure didn't stand up. neil: if he had you were ready to actually jump over and get to him. right that was all -- >> absolutely. every now and then bully needs to be taught a lesson and not saying everybody should handle

that way but if you have capability to stand up for somebody or stand up against a bully then you have to i would have never picked this fight. never, never would i have picked this fight, however, if you're going to do it then you need to be ready to defend your words and at the end of it he said i didn't mean it that way i meant to have a cup of coffee and sit down and talk about it if you read text or tweet. he meant it the way he said it he got caught and got caught with his hand in the cookie jar looking for a way out. >> consenting adults which was bizarre because -- sound like he wanted to date me and then asked to fight mess and hearing now he wanted to bite me and then last post he made was in front of a caché of automatic weapons where he says any time any place so make up your mind do you want to date, fight me -- bite me or shoot me that's crazy. with that one reason only so you know, tell our side of the story and get some feedback and maybe develop some relationships for

the betterment of working people. >> you didn't develop a relationship with him and things haven't covenned so i guess no coffee planned right? >> look i'll sit down and have coffee with anybody. despite his rhetoric and violent tendencies and issues he should be dealing with and my issue is dealing with, you know, how to improve america and work together, and how we most of forward from our differences. he clearly is -- neil: giving back as much as he was giving you and look leak you were ready -- to come to blows with him if he had jumped over that -- that would have have done that? >> well look first off that's a setting that should never occur in, and it is not the -- neil: would you have done that? you were ready and rearing to go. >> if he jumped over the dais and put anybody or anybody else at risk we have a right to defend ourselves that is clearly not the objective moving forward for me. neil: i know we go back and

forth shawn on the notion of who started but you know you did sending some nasty tweets e-mails whatever you want to call them saying of hill that it's just reality that you're just a clown. you should get your facts straight because every time you speak at these hearings you're full of, you know, what -- you went on to say more you run your mouth the more you show american people what a moron you are. do you regret that? >> i don't. because you know my first interaction with senator mullin and my first hearing, he attacked me personally regarding my salary value i bring to working people. he actually came at me first and no knowledge or dealings with him. and then he proceeded to i try to belittle everybody on the committee. so everything he was saying was not one bit factual and couldn't support any of those remarks he was making he was inconsistent so you know i don't have a problem with someone criticizing

or not liking me and make sure you have facts and figurings and he dupght he has a story where he came from nothing he was harboring resentment from a meeting that picketed his business he's a u.s. senator one of the most 100 powerful people in the country that actually could have change and you know, may haves behaves like a 12-year-old in a schoolyard. >> to the chase here they're not having coffee. not yet i'll keep you posted in the meantime it isn't coming to blows but frustration over that effort to avoid a government shutdown -- again, the votes for secured in the house to get it passed in the senate ultimately signed by president so shutdown avoid but texas chip roy still voicing his anger over how it all went down. take a look. >> we're pissing it away. we're giving it away. all they fought for all of those

freedoms we are giving it away. why? because we're too cowardly to stand up and do our job no a shutdown -- are you freaking kidding me? oh we can't have a shutdown heading into thanksgiving what will they say or dosome? how about we stand up and fight. >> when i fly home to texas i'm not being bombarded by complaint like i am in washington for my colleague when is i speak the truth on the floor. i'm being thanked. i had multiple people come up to me and say thank you, thank you for speaking for us because they're tired of what's happening on the border and republicans saying they're going to do something about it and republicans have to meet the moment. neil: so according to chip roy they failed that moment let's go to house majority whip tom emmer congressman good to have you -- he's not happy. he's not coming to blows with anyone so that's good but what do you make of just the reax on part of some more conservative members who didn't like this deal? >> wow good to be with you neil

based on your previous package -- with the senate and the teamsters and with the current one don't you think the thanksgiving break came at the best possible time? i think people need to -- [laughter] people need to bring it down a little bit and time with their families will help that. but in this kas i understand that my colleague's frustration without a doubt but the speaker -- made this play because while he believes that we need to fight we want to fight to win. he put democrats in a position neil where they had no choice but to go with his version of a two-step process. and i'll tell you why that's so important and they didn't want to be arguing next week during thanksgiving as to who was responsible for not paying our troops and everything else that goes with that. what mike johnson did here is he's given us weeks that we need desperately to get the appropriations process done for the first time in 30 years. we've got every bill that has

come across the floor now neil, they're already for conferencing with the senate and i believe once we get back, that's exactly where our speaker is gong to take us let's get bills conferenced let's get them passed through conference reports on the house and senate floor and get the appropriations process done with all 12 bills for the first time since 1994. neil: i guess you're right see how that all finishes out and seems what you're saying then and you're the majority whip i mean that speak or johnson won't suffer the same date as -- then speaker kevin mccarthy who because he had to work with democrats to get his measure to avoid a shutdown pass -- one bolted. and we all know what happened you don't think new speaker will suffer that same fate? >> i think that's the way it gets reported but keep in mind kevin mccarthy previous speaker put a stop gap funding bill on the floor a couple of days before that cr that you're talking about that had a 30% cut

with a -- a debt commission to deal with our debt next year and it also had the policy that the house is passed stronger -- strongest border policy in 20 years we have 20 of our members for 21 for some reason decide they weren't going to vote for that and that necessitated next step. i'm not gong to get into why that happened but we lost about four weeks there, neil, as speaker johnson was finally installed and what this -- vote did for us this week this stop gap funding bill is it now allows us because we lost valuable weeks to finish appropriations process and at the end of the day if you want real reform in washington, the house has to restore the power of the purse, and hold the executive branch accountable. >> could i ask you a personal question about your fellow republicans you know they've been tense and there have been these near cool to blows moment i mention speaker mccarthy and this -- you know, elbowing with the

fellow republican. what's going on with your guys? are they losing it or the sign of frustration? what is happening? >> i'm told that when john boehner was speaker after a shutdown, i don't know what year -- that congress was stuck in session for six straight weeks. that at which point speaker boehner back then i'm told said you know what everybody has to go home before somebody gets hurt. keep in mind we've now been in session until last week ten straight weeks almost doubled that experience and this is human beings trying to -- in a very high intensity environment try to work together and like i said -- thanksgiving couldn't come at a better time, neil. [laughter] neil: have a great one yourself congressman great seeing you again. all right in the meantime there is this -- with this is a back drop of volcano that could explode any

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>> all right a volcano that could explode we just don't know when it's iceland and brian yennis in middle of all of that. what's going on? reporter: look a week ago town 3800 fully evacuated because they thought this was eminent volcanic eruption you can see line crossed right through the name as well as a line through blue lagoon world famous hot springs also been closed down. this is a check point at any time there could be a volcanic eruption and 17 earthquakes in the last 24 hour most of those very small. but it is indicative that there could be an eruption of sol sort. there has been cracks in the earth, building as well as in homes and here's somebody who calls this home.

>> not excited to go back there and i don't think it will ever be the same after knowing what's happened there. >> i.c.e. land is doing what it can to protect geothermal plant and blue la gone area digging out trenches as well as building out a wall incase of hot lava that can destroy the city and town and as well as that plant. activity in the magma tunnel is unchanged right now which is good news and only question now is -- the only question now is where, when, and in what intensity neil this isn't a volcano from a single mountain they expect it in the ground in some ten mile stretch so real threat will be lava and sulfur dioxide gases. >> be safe through all of that brian yennis following all of

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neil: they say 30 million of us are going to be traveling or at least flying around how do they come up with that number whatever if it holds it will be a record. it will be a record close to that being a record last year. but definitely a record this year. bobby follows all of this and what we've got to do and not do to avoid createness around it. a lot of people bobby when you tiewk them have been saying -- i'm perfectly prepared for a miserable time. but it will be worth it when i get to see my relatives friends whatever -- is it really going to be that bad?

>> you know tsa has said that seven of their top ten busiest days since they began in their whole history were -- was in 2023 alone. so you are really going to be expecting those really long lines, lots of traffic and slower federal times this holiday season for sure plus everyone has the same deadline, everyone has to be there by thursday. >> yeah. that's true. and another issue that comes up is -- whether the airports are ready for whether airlines are ready for it we famously remember problems of southwest, i believe united caught these issues where they just couldn't handle just this swarm of people and flights are being canceled left and right. are we in danger of that? >> no i think airlines learn their lesson in previous year a lot of them did those computer upgrades after they suffered those meltdowns. so they're prepared for the holiday season, you know when it comes to the pilot shortage major airlines are pretty staffed up right now. it is the regional airlines that might have a little bit of a problem. because the major airlines hire

they pilots from those regionals. so they have to replace with -- their pilots from regular attrition and those moving on to majors so some of the regional flights you might see less frequencies but airports themselves and airlines i think are ready for holiday travel season. >> now, what about -- the issue of weather. now it is always a wild card big storm expected to be crossing the country next week how much of an issue is that? >> yeah. weather plays a huge role in holiday travel for sure especially since there are less frequencies out there because of the shortage and there's also fuller planes so if you cancel a plight or delay a flight you have to now reaccommodate 150 different people so you know one of the tips especially for this holiday travel season is just to have alternate flights in mind so this way if something happens to your flight specifically when you talk to airline customer service agent you can let they will know and alternate way of getting to your destination or maybe you can fly into an

airport that is not your intend destination but it is close enough by that a family member could pick you up that might actually help you get there. neil: good advice all bobby great catching up have a great thanksgiving yourself. >> thanks you too. neil: sad news to pass along here, and it is tough to get old -- we're learning now that former first lady rosland carter and jimmy carter are spending time together and now back in may you might reveal she was diagnosed with dementia might also recall former president has been no who hospice care and longest married couple in presidential history and been together for 77 years. god speed. can't stop adding stuff to your cart?

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