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♪ ♪ will: dead serious. >> good morning everybody i love this song. 7:00. right here in new york city. that's your shot of the morning. pretty skyline good morning guys. will: just talking coming into the commercial break what's on pete's property. pete: salivating -- about future desire to kill wild animals. will: hogs he said no if you ever get them get rid of them. pete: texas has a big hog problem because my brother-in-law -- will: zero tolerance. pete: they fly in the helicopters and shoot hogs i haven't flown with them yet let's do that. will: seen the wild epidemic of america it is not just texas you're north in tennessee but

probably going to get there and it is pushing you need to have a zero tolerance policy. rachel: what do they do? will: the turkeys, deer they'll root up whole property. they're just -- pete: filthy from what i'm told. glad you're joining us on this sunday morning. rachel: commercial break conversation. bleeding into the top of the hour. pete: if the world only knew. will: record number of border encounters 3.2 million nation encounters, 600,000 got aways. 172 on the terror watch list. have you two seen this video that's going around? we don't -- i don't know if we have it because i'm springing this on producers as we speak have you seen a video as this guy goes and asks i would say he ends up talking to two dozen illegal immigrants all sitting apprehended on a fence asking where they're from and where they're going.

have you seen this video? rachel: what happened? will: if we can grab that it's amazing. boom, boom, boom asking him guinea, iran, iran -- guinea senegal and then where are you going texas, arizona a huge chunk of them new york. new york -- rachel: interesting. other thing this one is one that i did myself in an airport asking 30 of them, these guys were almost all from the dominican republic cuba couple from venezuela they had only been in the country less than 30 hours supposedly they were vetted. and on their way you try going into an airport where identification is they do and you're an american citizen they'll turn you around. pete: 100% if i misspell my name on my ticket it is a problem. speaking of the border and texas

has been front and center on that. sources are telling fox news this morning that texas governor greg abbott is going to endorse donald trump for 2024 republican nominee as they head down to the border today. here's a portion of what the former president said recently about that southern border. watch. >> just three years ago we have the best border we ever had now we have the worst border -- but the best border. >> i will begin largest domestic deportation operation in american history back to their countries. [applause] i will immediately restore expand the trump travel ban we all know what that is on entry from terror play countries and compliment strong ideological screening on all immigrants. >> look you mention record numbers will -- i bet this year breaks that record because the world is going to know that this guy is back in office, that the

policies are going to change at the border yet another endorsement from donald trump as reality sets in that he's overwhelming fropght runner. >> you know those ideas that donald trump had deporting he says it is largest deportation in u.s. history of illegals. he said he's going reenstate travel ban remain in mexico and going to end children who are illegal who are born here getting automatic citizenship. those ideas were supercontroversial when he was running in 2015. i don't think they're as controversial anymore. i think that people have seen what happens when you have this open border policy. and i think these are -- this is a winning topic for him. will: hopefully it resonates with americans hopefully this. yesterday we brought you story of the study out of sweden showing that lockdowns in america and across europe this one particularly focus on the u.k. produced no real production, no real positive

effect when it came to covid versus a society that remained largely open in sweden and now we also know or at least we're having -- we're receiving the admission that benefits of shutdowns weren't there and the costs were. this is "new york times" editorial board. startling evidence on learning los is in. right evidence is now in and it is startling the school closures that took 50 million children out of classrooms at the start of the pandemic may prove to be most damaging disruption in the history of american education. it also set student progress back in math and reading by two decades and widen achievement gap that separates poor and wealthy children the learning loss crisis is more consequential than many elected officials yet acknowledged a collective sense of urgency by all americans required to avert devastating effect on nation's children. listen, you know, we can take a moment in this -- and say it was, it was covid it

was a pandemic no one knew. i think there needs to be some accountability tribunal and need to go back and look back and say who did and said what i'm serious. rachel: never get any apology for any of this and 50 million. will: severe bad actors. rachel: 50 million shut out of the classrooms who was in the classroom over 100 million chinese you talk about -- we talk how fentanyl and tiktok all of the things that china did to weaken america nothing is going to weaken america more than the shutdown of these schools and interesting that china this was -- came out of china and their kids were in school and ours were shut down because of our damn teachers unions. >> you want to talk about accountability one of the places to start was the new york times. there was no more sanctimonious dripping preachy group think lockdown, get your covid vaccine, mandatory push it -- that was them.

they're the ones backing all of this. rachel: yes. pete: now acknowledging what rest of us -- rachel: there's no i'm sorry. will: self--- pete: if not in school heir going to fall behind and roll tape on this show and network for years saying depress who it will impact the most people that are already of lessing means, poor people in schools that are underserved like, of course, with families that are broken and neighborhoods -- they're ones that fall the most behind. thanks "new york times." but some of us were there years ago. will: in fact we can roll that tape. watch. >> sending 20% of healthy children home to learn from an ipad isn't acceptable to me. >> it is a challenge i don't really have money for additional child care finding alternative environment and it is not baby-sitting it needs to be education. >> students graduating are not meeting those basic bench marks there's two careers of learning loss nobody can deny it not etch teachers unions at this point.

>> we got smacked in the face when we went to school boards and begged them please reopen our schools. our kids are struggling and they said we don't care. >> when you try to do school on a computer and you're a kindergartener -- what else are they going to do? i did everything i could. i made the bouncy balls, i made the special room. i sat there and i worked with them and they still cried. >> i think this just 100% goes to show and now prove that parents know what is best for their children. >> so important to talk about who did this remember the -- and by the way there's all kinds of articles on the left not just sort of softly acknowledging what happened but also saying oh we just need, you know, to forget about what happened and we didn't know. no a lot of people knew. parents knew. union said we need all this money from you in order to open schools. they basically held america hostage then we handed over the money and some of them still

didn't open meanwhile catholic schools who operate on a 16th of the budget of what, you know, public schools do operate on. they remained open you know what they did they didn't money but clorox bleach wipes and they wiped down desks and put kids in desks and educated them that's why schools are higher who remained open during that time that was an absolute they held us hostage. will: randy weingarten cdc dr. anthony fauci started tribunal -- rachel: i'm with you 100%. pete: agreed. rachel: we're going to turn to headlines a ohio man faces charges after a police investigation revealed he lieded about being a victim of the hate crime those charges include making false alarms as well as assault and domestic violence. he told police that he was hit by a driver yelling anti-palestinian slurs prompting calls for an fbi investigation.

however, officers say he actually got into a fight with his brother. it a developing story, residents in southern ietion iceland on edge after experts warn a volcanic eruption could happen any time now and could be months before it is safe for anyone to return to their homes icelandic officials say magma is close to the earth's surface near a mountain could be the site of an eruption. so if they take everybody out of their homes -- amazing. united autoworkers with ford and ending six week strike that put the big three automakers on pause. workers passed both agreements with an overwhelming majority and new deals include 25% wage increases for workers, cost of living adjustments and more

agreements are set to expire in april of 2028. a christmas classic is celebrating a very merry anniversary. >> i think that says fragile, honey. ♪ ♪ >> what -- it's a leg. >> but what is it? >> it's a leg! like in a statue. >> christmas story remered 30 years ago this weekend since debut in 1983 classic coming of age story rail if i a sequel came out last year and those are your headlines. will: kathleen texted me said would you sending me the christmas play list on spotify? >> i will. a little early. that's what i felt. i felt that too. pete: this is that kind of transition phase like behind us.

we have the fox news christmas tree is up. but it is not lit yet you wait to light it until after thanksgiving. will: four more days fully appreciate thanksgiving. pete: makes you enjoy it more. i haven't gone for the peppermint whatever -- rachel: candy canes. pete: starbucks coffees. i saw it the other day i wanted it but i didn't get it. because it's too early. rachel: anticipation of christmas we get our christmas tree on thanksgiving weekend a wonderful tradition we cut it down. >> that's beautiful. pete: yours is really dead until after christmas. rachel: we keep it going until january 6th -- three kings day, different holiday -- but yes you're right one year we put our teenage, 16-year-old this charge of watering the tree and it did die early because that's not a good idea. will: new survey says topics

americans least want to discuss at thanksgiving at number 10 conspiracy theories. rachel: i look up a list will i said i'm not invited anywhere because i talk about all of these things let's go through the list. pete: any of the -- will: war, personal finances, jobs, six personal relationships, five, covid, four, biden three, family drama and gossip everybody wants to do that trump, one, the 2024 election. >> talk about the weather -- you can talk about football and sports. you can talk about -- rachel: nothing to say there. pete: you're done you're what you're doing cooking. because you can't be seen elsewhere talking to people. [laughter] rachel: what do you think of this list? will: well i don't agree with all of it. i think conspiracy theories are

a great conversation. glam all came true. pete: i do too i think this list depends on size and scope of your family gatt gathering like angst uncles and aunts -- probably not and people you haven't seen for a while like -- will: i like to go living on edge of uncomfortability that's when we get real. pete: i agree but most don't like living on that edge. will: their problem not mine. pete: you impose your risk tolerance on others. rachel: that list i decided was not created by a hispanic family. those are all topics we talk only thing that's not there is religion and we talk about that and not supposed to talk about religion and politics but that's all we talk about -- will: going to talk about the weather. rachel: i hate small talk and i

don't like chitchat i like a deep good conversation. pete: for sure. here's another survey that it is same survey just different aspects so broke it down by state best and worst house guest actions by state. what people in those states believe for thanksgiving. will: our states they're highlighting so in tennessee the best so all of them the best is help with dishes. pete: in tennessee it is help clean the kitchen. the worst is stealing -- rachel: in tennessee you have to be careful. pete: like red neck stuff hey i'll take the silverware on my way out that's pretty bad scenario. rachel: or turkey fryer. true to form getting too drunk. actually i saw a list once of like the -- the cities in america that are the most i guess most drinking most drunk, and like the top

five were wisconsin. >> i've seen that map every county has more bars than like grocery stores. and then texas this is i think right help clean the kitchen is best worst is asking offensive questions. will: that's my role. my role i don't know what that means what is an offensive question? pete: you going up to i don't know -- will: like hey how much do you make? [laughter] rachel: i think dinner by the way this one of the most beautiful things sitting around you're having dinner we talk about what we're grateful for and then we also just kind of -- talk and enjoy. pete: e-mail us your thoughts friends at fox news.com this morning what are some of the best and worst thanksgiving house guest actions at your house. rachel: good question. pete: worst things you've seen or tradition you have e-mail we'll share it later on many the show. will: coming up age old questions biden too old to seek reelection as he turns 81 tomorrow? we'll ask voters.

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will: now have a response from the los angeles county sheriff office in regards to distinct on your screen right now you remember vince richy responding to some home invaders would be home invaders armed home invaders he shot drew his weapon he shot it went down and then afterwards by the way, his gun permit was revoked he described it to us yesterday. >> i think it is unique that district in california they usually will suspend it temporarily from what i've heard and they temporarily suspended it and immediately called it is revoked over the phone, no written confirmation no e-mail nothing. i feel like it is a petty attempt to strip me of my ability to protect myself and because it is on publicity around case and they haven't caught anybody they're at large that it is easy for them to go and catch the criminals. >> it's been a roller coaster of

emotions but i somehow lie like equally feeling so saddened and in such disbelief that this happened to us as equally proud and impressed with my husband. pete: no doubt. so in between yesterday's show when we did that interview and this morning we got a statement from l.a. county sheriff's department to the fox news channel here's how they describe what's going on with his gun permit he said we recognize this distinct was extremely traumatic and stargtsing for the ricci family hope the individuals responsible for this crime are arrested and held accountability. doj has been notified and there are avenues for mr. ricci to reapply for his permit we've been in contact with the family and providing information to them about ccw protocol and guidelines in an effort to ensure their second amendment rights are protected. sounds like some coded language --

i don't really know. i heard some rumors yesterday too by the way i was working here in the building that there were questions about after the distinct they looked at his application and whether or not there was some mistakes on application that led to immediately being revoked under scrutiny so maybe saying reapply we'll get that permit again and i also heard they haven't thankfully taken their guns, of course, should not do so they have -- firearms but just not the ability to carry which having a firearm in their home in this distinct wouldn't have done him any good. >> wouldn't have. we did that interview it was so interesting because you could see that karla the wife was still very shooken up by what happened you know, obviously, and he was comforting her during the interview and she was just so proud of him because truly -- this husband, this father did exactly what every wife would want her husband to do. he was truly a hero he thought

quick on his feet he threw that tea in the intruders face protecting his wife and chirp. i saw it you guys i thought that's why i get married. i want someone to be able to protect me like that and that the state could come unbetween his ability to protect his family is shameful even just the statement like you can reapply this is his constitutional right to protect his family. >> how long to take -- >> it can a long time to get conceal to carry in the first place. >> they'll drag that permit process out forever. rachel: so -- all right. will: best of luck exercising second amendment right in a responsible way in that moment. pete: of course they haven't found perpetrators so often the case. rachel: so busy focused on him and not on the bad guys it is just disgusting. wow, let's change the vibe here for a second still ahead we're talking about hollywood and

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15% have concerns and joining us is indpepght voter brendan jordan co-owner ceo of 1918 catering jason brown, and republican voter stacey fox. i will ask you are you concerned about the age of president joe biden? >> i'm absolutely concerned. you know he exhibits many issues when it comes to physical and cognitive abilities but also it is difficult for him to connect with the younger generation. our electorate is getting younger and younger and younger we're electing people who are older and older and older. will: he turns 81 tomorrow we have to point out trump i believe is approaching 78. so is it age for example jay sop that is a concern? is it a concern for you jason and is it age or as points out

how at your age? >> for me it is more about experience. president biden brings experience to the position. and which we dongt have any candidate who exemplified as many experience with our government. >> you're a democrat. where are you with how joe biden is doing his record high disapproval for joe biden's job performance 63% of men and 62% of votes under 45 and 60% of hispanic voters on and on 41% of black voters. disapprove -- of joe biden, what -- how do you feel about our current president? >> i feel pretty good about current state i do have some concerns about economy and where the economy is currently headed. but that's because of the current situation come out of the with the pandemic things of that natch but right now my biggest concern is just making sure that the presidency does

the correct thing and leads country in the right way that's with experience. will: somebody with experience, stacey -- you're a self-described republican voter. who is it as you look across the field speaks to you in your needs as an american? >> well that's really hard to say because again for me it is not age but definitely who is going to lead our country in the right direction who is going to take care of the border down at the south. who is going to have a strong standing in international affairs. desantis seems to be the front runner when it comes to that but i haven't looked at any other options coming out of the democratic party because we haven't been given any. all i do know is not his age but his mental ability is definitely not something we need for the next four years -- will: reverse order so stacey you say you haven't seen any other options out of the democratic party what if joe biden were replaced?

how would you feel about governor gavin newsom of california or michelle obama the former first lady? >> i haven't seen anything that puts them on a stage equal in international affairs and -- basically local affairs as much as desantis. i think ram ramaswamy can connet with younger voters i would see what they say but running late in the game and not putting any other narrative out but we're saying we're going keep biden whether or not he's mentally fit and he honestly hasn't been a great president i have kids in arizona, and amount of fentanyl and drugs coming over border is -- insane. i work with a lot of international companies, and they really need america to stand up and be the big stick and i'm not sure biden can step into that role -- will: really quickly stacey i

need to confirm my audio is a little muffled. i believe you said desantis and i also believe you were talking about international affairs been a successful governor what about governor of florida gives you confidence in ability to handle international affairs? >> i feel he's played on that line of defense. he's been a soldier i think he will surround himself with people who have the intelligence and the ability to help him lead in those matters. not going to let somebody else run his presidency. will: going back around horn in reverse order to you i want to ask you same question joe biden is the current sitting president there's some that wonder whether or not he will be the nominee, though, does michelle obama appeal to you more than joe biden? >> michelle appeals to multiple ethnic groups she just is

polarizing forget just michelle obama will bring that same feeling or that country guy voted for donald trump meaning that people were able to gather because they felt they knew him. people feel like they know michelle obama they see she's raised a family. supportive multimillionaire husband been able to be a president but also be successful businessman outside of his presidency. so the country would love that example of what michelle obama could bring. >> i do think there's skepticism that become multimillionaire after public service there might be questions about how you become a multimillionaire after years as a senator, state senator and then a president. but you know, finally let'sened it here with you i've talked to each was panelist about who appeals to them and talked about role of experience and looked at alternate candidates not only the ballot yet in newsom and

obama who satisfies your requirements for president? >> i think for me right now it's a no-brainer it is nikki haley she brings experience that we need she has foreign policy experience, she's so many examples of strengthening economy and education when she was the governor of south carolina. so for me it is a no-brainer with her. will: all right appreciate you giving me your feedback this morning thank you guys. >> thank you. still ahead small businesses now losing interest in hiring candidates with college degrees. we'll explain what's fueling the trend. and on a related note tiktok generation is apparently on hunt for lazy girl jobs -- but her parents to blame. rich will take on trends in here pop cultur te roundup. for rapid relief that lasts and lasts. that's my babyyy! -ow! get mucinex instasoothe. it's comeback season.

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>> are we to be see a blue collar boom a new poll find small business owners don't value college and degrees that come with it as much anymore when looking for job applicants. survey saying, quote, 67% of participanting strongly no when they thought higher institution and graduating students with relevant skills that today business community needs. here to react former

construction worker and blue collar cash author ken rusk does this surprise you base on what businesses are seeing and saying? >> thanks for your service and all you do for patriot awards that is fantastic. what i would say this doesn't surprise me at all. colleges used to be a place where you would get a degree and that would only enhance and effective human being and already effective human being. now we're seeing colleges attach these degrees to people that literally can't come out to do some of the life skills that we need and what companies need today. pete: they are coming out with different attitudes about work i've got a fancy degree but -- things should be handed to me or i'm special and therefore, you should hire me. >> well yeah they've kind of been hoodwinked to think that degree will carry the day completely. you have to remember that's something that you're supposed

to use to enhance your skills that you already have and that's what we're seeing now with relying way too much on that piece of paper or degree rather than getting some of the experiences that they need that companies really want. you know, it is a situation where -- companies have gone to the point where they're thinking you know i would rather deprogram someone who went to college and teach them exactly what i need them to know than to have him come in and rely heavily on liberal arts degrees they can't even use. >> no doubt what's your advice to young people who are -- trying to consider whether or not college is the way to go how do you get skills to be eminently deployable? >> i have to tell you i've interviewed 200 people and noticed that lack of basic life skills is something that is on this serious decline. i look for things that you can solve a basic problem. can you use any type of tools can you build repair fix

maintain, you know create something? can you be responsible financially for yourself? do you take care of yourself physically and emotionally, and have you while volunteered or given of yourself to others these are things that are good building blocks for you to walk into an interview with along with the good solid vision for what you want your life to look like because if you come to my office and say, man i've got a plan for myself, that i want to gain with and through your organization, pete i couldn't argue fast enough. pete: i have to mention vocational training a big part of that too you're not getting the debt but skills. >> i can tell you this you can learn to do a trade, skill and again unless you use the law of supply and demand in our favor here and supply is high that's where money goes yeah you can get a degree or certificate in a lot of trades for a tenth or piflt of what you're paying for college. not only that but you're doing it in half of the time. and you're earning money wheel

you're learning -- versus paying to learn and hoping you get a job that matches up with that debt. >> such assumption for so long and automatically go to a college or university to benefit you and that flipped completely for parents with young people makes you think what's next. but there are a lot of great options including the trades which you've laid out ken rusk thank you so much for your time. >> thank you pete. pete: appreciate it toss it toff will for headlines. turn to headlines start requesting two people hurt after explosion in the sail building that houses senator john's office in atlanta yesterday. officials say workers suffered from shocks performing electric upgradings and taken to the hospital in critical condition. released a statement thanking first responders for coming to the rescue. now to fox news digital exclusive members of congress are looking to investigate a former iranian official who was a professor at princeton they

say professor is working to advance iran interests. questioning activities in a letter to the school's president. republican congresswoman lisa mclane telling fox news digital, quote, higher education is bowed down to the radical left and enemies of america for far too long and fact that a former member of the iranian regime is given a platform at princeton is proof. [laughter] and those are your headlines. let's turn now chief meteorologist rick for the fox weather forecast. >> you know on sunday i like to show you precipitation we're getting this coming week this matter this is week because we have two storms one kind of leading into thanksgiving another one that's going to be after thanks giving to cause some travel problems on your way home. this is kind of the accumulation of two different storms that's going bring a lot of snow across the intermountain west great news for ski areas and great news for water pack and snow pack that we need to fill up reservoirs and ongoing long-term drought that's across parts of the west.

then out across east a series of storms as well look at this potentially first real big snow coming later on -- in this period that we get across parts of the northeast a lot of rain in towards mid-atlantic as well and short-term here's how this will play out today with rain, already starting across parts of the central plains some thunderstorms with this. some snow back behind this. tomorrow -- and energy moves a little further off towards east watch out for threat of a tornado or two across louisiana maybe east texas, and in towards mississippi and then throughout the day on tuesday this moves a little further towards east causing big travel problems by wednesday for the most part, just parts of new england and by thursday, this clears out of the east coast if your travel plans on thursday will you're looking good tuesday, wednesday maybe some problems ahead. >> federal plans today i should be in the clear. will: coming up governor gavin newsom sparking outrage as he blast a tennessee city for banning being gay in public but it isn't true. and pete and i will go off the wall with how left spins stories

that go viral. is taylor swift love story with travis kelce real deal we have a roundup next.

rachel: all right it's time for another pop culture round up and this time we have tom shillue touch on latest and greatest in all of the hollywood drama. so we're going start off with this cultural topic for problematic professionals a new op-ed blaming parents for gen-z work ethic along with social media they say it is making young adults focus more on work life balance than on working hard. what do you make of? there's a lazy job trend on social media and talk about jobs that don't make you work so hard. what do you make of all of is this? >> i don't mind that. a lot of people making fun of girls they're crying about hard jobs not everyone is made for the 9-5 life. karl wrote for fox news not

everyone is a girl bees and it takes a wheel to figure yourself out. rachel: unhappy girl bosses by the way. while it is easy to dunk on young people, i really blame the parents. this hurts because gen-z is raised in large part by gen-x should make kids awesome and sub sufficient and into entitled. if they're not going to even if they work at starbucks support jobs that i worked when i was up to age 30, i was waiting tables, i was cleaning carpet. those toughen you up so even if they don't find direction and find a career, they're going to get tough because life is tough. rachel: let's talk about another lazy entitled girl boss meghan markle dutchess posing and teases exciting new projects at the l.a. gala she had this funny

moment tom where she's like posing and assistant trying to help her and she ignores assistant and keeps on posing what's this new exciting project she's doing? >> nothing is not exciting. amazing thing about these two is they were the royal family. they're kind of going in the opposite direction we have all of these young social media people they're trying to act like princesses, these two were the royal family. and they want to be tiktok stars. like they're going in the opposite direction. rachel: think so right? she's doing this alone and went to event without harry. harry is not able to sort of rebrand she's the queen of rebranding. >> she needs to be. did you listen to that failed podcast? the problem is -- rachel: snooze fest. >> in the an interesting person you don't have to be if you're a royal family but separated from

pomp and circumstance they can't because they're not really that interesting. rachel: she's better than he is. so here's the next thing jeff bezos and lauren sanchez on cover of vogue eve this a huge photo shoot and getting roasted on internet it is sort of like i don't know -- like kind of yellowstone but fake and cringe. >> look at the lips those fillers are crazy. >> funny thing is you look at her but him with a dumb cowboy hat richest guy in the world and jeff bezos this is how you be rich stand on yacht and let paparazzi take pictures you don't pose for pictures. rachel: i lips all i see is lips but interesting they're both going through a midlife crises maybe? >> i think so. no question. rachel: here's next thing we talk about this on the podcast too so there are some critics one of them is skip who is saying like this relationship is

doomed to fail that he's really into her. but she's just -- he's just another guy to her. >> yeah. you know what i think skip he has a soft heart. rachel: let's play what he says catch you on the other side. >> i sincerely hope her relationship with travis kelce is real but she's stagey and pike me i don't buy it. i don't know. it seemed a little scripted to me. rachel: i disagree with this and i think it is bringing hope for young women who have given up on love. >> he means as much to her for 15 other boyfriends did and when she breaks up with him it will be a hit. rachel: listen from the kitchen table and i break it down with shawn and my daughter tom thanks so much for joining us. all right bye everybody. ♪ ♪

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