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>> we are awaiting secretary of state antony blinken and mayorkas arrival in mexico for border security meeting with mexican president obrador. the trip comes as massive crowds of thousands of migrants are waiting to be processed and a migrant caravan marches north through mexico right now. all this as president biden ditches washington for a tropical holiday vacation. hello, this is "outnumbered," i'm molly line. joining me fox news contributor and president of american spirit, tammy bruce, board certified physician dr. nicole saphier and washington examiner and senior fellow for independent woman's forum kaylee

and joe concha. president biden's top cabinet officials will address current border challenges. william is in los angeles with the latest on all of this. william. >> the biden administration is asking mexico to do something it will not. family coming to work but dhs let go. this is lukeville, arizona. last night more than a thousand immigrants were epiapprehended. the border is not secure, secretaries blinken and mayorkas are in mexico.

they want -- to central america. there are thousands sleeping in camps and shelters along the border. two, resume policing the railroad. three, increase interior checkpoints and limit or deny visas that allow migrants to transit mexico for 90 days. this is just outside chula. up to 15,000 migrants are march ing to keep mexican police from breaking them up. we asked them to give us a free pass to the united states, we go there to work and children to study, it is all we want. we have a daughter there, she is

ill and needs surgery. >> president obrador is open to the talks. critics say today's summit is about paying mexico to do something they won't. >> mexico has no incentive to end this. all this money cartels are bringing in will go right back into the government. >> he hopes next year's election brings immigration to the forefront. i think it already has. >> molly: thank you, william, we appreciate it. joe, straight to you to get started. he covered an enormous amount of

ground, unprecedented number and president biden is on vacation. >> joe: and now mayorkas and blinken are going to discuss it, this is window dressing. presidents take vacation during christmas week, the problem is every weekend is vacation for joe biden. he spent 40% on vacation. he should have stopped at the border on way to saint croix. we have people apprehended on the fbi terror watch list, they are the ones getting caught. one about the ones in the country? it is impeachable offense. joe biden is polling at 82% disapproval on handling of the

border. if the election comes down to economy and border, this is first one-term democratic president since jimmy carter. >> molly: tough for biden right now, heading into this one. mayorkas and blinken have traveled to mexico, this is another trip they are making. the other ones, this happened in the months since their trip. >> think of president biden, chuck schumer and mcconnell, they have collectively spent over 100 years in congress. i vote no confidence anything will happen here. we continue to see republicans and democrats play games when it comes to the border. the priority for democrats is foreign aid to ukraine, taiwan and israel. republicans priority are border,

why thicks are tied together. they continue to hemorrhage resources as bus loads of migrants are coming, they continue to go back and forth. this is air heavy price tag american taxpayers are paying when it comes to illegal migrants coming across the border. americans care about it, we should care about it and politicians need to stop playing games. >> molly: kaylee, it is election year around the corner, what do you expect as we turn this corner? >> kaylee: we can expect more of the same when it comes to the border crisis. a whole bunch of nothing.

they can keep sending foreign aid to other countries, they think they can incentivize and stem flow of migration by pouring money into the nations. it does the opposite. fox interviewed one of the migrantings who admitted they are sending migrants to the u.s., they know the biden administration will send more foreign aid to them. the premise is not working and that is the biden administration strategy. >> molly: tammy, u.s. is raising concern about fentanyl and asking mexico to do more. mexican officials said united states need to do more on guns

heading back and forth. >> tammy: all of that is distraction. it is about busy work. what i can tell you, don't forget kamala harris was the first border czar. from the start, they intended this distraction. it is dynamic when it comes to people and how the census counts people residing in the states. that is not helping blue states that are losing other people to red states. i want to note, number of people, not just triangle countries, it is afghanistan, uzbekistan, lebanon, jordan, yemen, you have mortania, uzbekistan, china. it costs money to get from that

region. it is other than mexico countries. what we've known from the cia and department of state, they are running drug motion into the united states. we know they not just have cells, they have operational bases in the americas and that is putting it more at risk, further makes this more shocking when it comes to the result. >> molly: mollie is pointing to national security concerns as we follow this. and bill melugin talks to migrants from all over the world and say chicago, philadelphia and we know that many of the states and cities are overwhelmed. your thoughts on the security and capacity issue. >> joe: what other country allow this many migrants to come

across their border unfettered. during the biden administration, the number eclipses the total of three states. they want to come here for a better life. some don't, they want to destroy america, just ask israel what they went through when the border was not secure. this should be a number one issue, a block on the top of every newscast. most media are not reporting on this on a daily basis. >> molly: we have breaking news, michigan supreme court making a big decision on whether to ban former president trump from the state's 2024 ballots. . my a1c was up here; now, it's down with rybelsus®. his a1c? it's down with rybelsus®.

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>> another state is ruling on former president donald trump eligibility to be on ballot in 2024. michigan supreme court has rejected appeal base coming just days after colorado supreme court made the decision to bar the president from the ballot. michigan supreme court argues there is no legal ground and the colorado ruling does not change that. significantly colorado election law differ from michigan laws in material way directly relevant to why the appellates are not entitled to the presidential primary election in michigan. we will go now to chad pergram who will explain all this in

washington. chad, to you. >> the michigan supreme court upheld decision by lower court, the court held does not give election official leeway to judge eligibility of candidates for the ballot. president trump called it a gambut to rig the election. michigan is more important than colorado in 2024. it is a swing state. michigan could determine the presidential election. michigan was close in 2020, president biden beat president trump by 85,000 votes, but many in the muslim community are upset with president biden. it was imposed on confederates after the civil war. >> molly: great point, chad

pergram, your insight proosht appreciated. tammy, the efforts have largely been unsuccessful across the country. your thoughts on what hammed in michigan and colorado? >> tammy: colorado, there have have to be a statement about what is appropriate. with the state elections effectively, presidential election, electors, it is a federal resort and federal government has interest in how to works. i think for colorado, newsom stopped effort in california to do the same thing. most people are realizing that was an inappropriate thing to do for colorado law. he is an insurrectionist. you don't declare someone guilty of a crime. he's never been tried or

convicted on that. people see this for what it is. we want people to trust the end result of an election. democrats never think about the next day, who will rep the result of that kind of election. that is what the judiciary can consider. this is why the supreme court has to made a statement about nationalized attitude about what you can do in this regard based on national constitution and allowing states to have leeway. this is not for state office or local office, if is federal position. this will get cleared up, americans don't like this. we are seeing what justices are willing to do and want stability and continuity and that is what supreme court will give us.

>> molly: tammy covered some great points. >> joe: it comes back 9-0. liberal justices on that court need to see this for what it is. that will send a message to wisconsin and nevada, georgia, arizona that have suits to take donald trump off the ballot, this is rocket fuel for donald trump right now. to tammy's point, let the people decide. 313 days, decide whether or not donald trump will be next president of the united states, leave in the hands of the people, not the court. >> tammy: if this goes forward and he's kept off the ballot, the people in that state don't get to make that call. >> kaylee: the michigan supreme

court is majority democratic bench like colorado. even the michigan supreme court was able to come to this decision is telling. it is important. state says do not have the right to determine the eligibility of the candidate. you know who does? not just voters, but congress and congress had two opportunities to render through impeachment process and refused to do so, chose not to convict him. to try to surplant the will of the people is extreme antidemocratic. >> dr. saphier: the length democrats are trying to go to keep trump off the ballot is incredulous and alarming. they have civil and criminal lawsuit, now amendment to keep

him off the ballot, they need to be careful, if they are going to interpret the 14th amendment to keep president trump off the ballot and do away with democracy, what can you say to president joe biden. part of that 14th amendment, no person should hold office that gives aid to our enemies. president biden has given millions and billionings to hamas, which was used in the october 7 massacre. debt with china and we give aid to south america coming through the southern border with drug cartels, democrats need to be careful, people will use 14th amendment against democrats, as well. >> molly: we'll see how february looks as some issues are being worked out, coming up, shocking detail about the new york city

man who randomly stabbed two teenage girls on christmas day in an antiwhite rampage.

>> molly: two teenage girls are recovering from stab wounded after they were randomly attacked by a homeless man. they were stabbed while enjoying a meal within grand central terminal. he yelled, i want all the whieth people dead. hutcherson is facing multiple charges, including attempted murder. we are learning more about hutcherson's long criminal history. one former victim told the "new york post" he shouldn't have been on the streets allah.

he was arrested and pled guilty to third-degree assault, but a judge cut him loose. you have people in the city, young people having a good time, christmas time. this is a good example, a lot is new york centered, this is representation of what can manifest in other cities. his one victim said they should not have let him out of jail, judges are letting them go and moving to misdemeanors, and now two girls could have been killed, thank god they got out alive. >> kaylee: new york is failing to adequately help people who are severely mentally ill. remember the jordan neeley

situation. and there was a homeless man who could be released if doctors deem him medically fit. that man who pushed the young woman in front of the subway, his sister was begging officials to institutional him. new york officials refuse to do what is necessary and it is under guise of compassion. they think it is compassionate to give these people freedom, but it is a threat to public safety and it is wrong. >> tammy: it is. if you go through the system, you are recognized as being mentally ill and you will get a break. one of his crime is going into the bergdorf and smashing cases.

what is going on here? >> dr. saphier: the writing is on the wall, this gentlemen was arrested 17 times. last time he was threatening to kill someone and he had a knife. he had a conditional discharge. maybe the conditional issues were drug abuse treatment, but who is following up on this. there are always signs leading up to it, randomly were there no signs. what point do we hold accountable da's and judges that let these people off to continue to reek havoc. they could have died, he stabbed this 16 year old in the back. what about daniel penny?

he is now in the legal fight of his life who protects the people. >> tammy: this is policies and attitudes going around the country. >> absolutely, these tourists were visitors from south america. we think things are more dangerous and people are fleeing and coming here. there is a sad irony that is happening on christmas. two great points, mental health aspect and political dynamic. actions are not being taken. seems every time tragedy strikes there is discussion about mental illness, i don't know what episode will make that happen. >> tammy: we are on a bullet

train and no one knows how to stop it. >> joe: a stat, in new york last year, 10 career criminals racked up 500 arrests. if you get arrested 50 times and not in jail, that is wrong. what is leticia james's focus right now? putting president trump in jail. what is alvin bragg doing? pursuing charges against donald trump. until you change leadership, that bullet train will keep going by. >> tammy: it is. information is power. coming up, former msnbc host claims rural republicans, voters there are angry and says dealing with them is like dealing with

terrorists. his comments next.

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>> tammy: former msnbc host chris matthews taking a swing at maga republicans, angry rural trump voters, and says it is like combating actual terrorists. take a listen. >> people that didn't go to college have a rage on their hand. rage can be black rage or white rage, rural rage. they are so angry at liberal establishment, coastal elite, they say people on "saturday night live," i know who they are, they don't have to worry about us. the regular guy goes they are making fun of us. we make fun of trump and make fun of them. it is a weird thing. in a way, like fighting terrorism, we think we put the idf in.

it never solves the problem. we did it with afghanistan and iraq. they hate us more than ever. armies don't make peace. >> tammy: yet nicole, one reason why those midweft west people might be angry, they are described as the enemy, what is going on with chris matthews >> it is liberal elite to call people terrorists and name call. we saw hillary clinton and extremists, that is what they do, name call and compare you to terrorists. we saw parents speaking out likened as terrorists. we will name call and this is why the working class has a problem with the ruling class.

>> tammy: molly, think about division in the country and trump supporters are more than pointing a finger and you have laing or smearing someone, it is context of being dangerous and the enemy and refers to the army, will this help division or make them worse? >> it is mostly offensive and i will channel my rural rage. i grew up in the top of the mountains in rural area. the greater issue absolves democratic party of challenges they create unto themselves, policies that drove rural voters away and say they are mad because we're so smart and real

case is they have to stand up and say what can we do to win back the vote. i don't know if it will be successful, it is not rage, voters vote in their own interest and vote and neighbors change and we have seen west virginia go red in recent years. >> tammy: this comes down to not taking certain people seriously. >> kaylee: my inlaws are from the rural midwest. there is rage when ohio state loses to michigan three years in a row. some are bold enough to admit rage like chris matthews. they all have contempt for middle class americans whether willing to admit out loud or not.

think of framing around bidenomics as contempt for middle class. biden administration attempt to justify policies have have made working class americans poorer and tell them you need to suck it up and be thankful donald trump is not around to send mean tweets, that is the message and disdainful toward americans who are worse off. >> tammy: joe, if somebody on a panel started referring to a group of americans as comparable to hamas, someone else would say, wait a minute. we don't see that going on when it comes to certain media. >> joe: it was bobble head. the people that need deodorant

the most never use it. basket of deplorables, in ohio, and wisconsin, did not get the season, they live in bubble in new york and washington. what is chris matthews doing on msnbc so much? wasn't he shown the door for sexual harassment? he says rural voters are angry, no, everybody is angry. 70% believe the world is going in the wrong direction. talk about education scores, 30-year low and the world seems to be on fire. >> tammy: it is american rage and to your point, they have to address it so they have conversations about why, only time things will get better. guys, more "outnumbered" in just

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>> joe is dancing away. california days away from fining retail department store for not having gender neutral section for toys. governor gavin newsom signed that bill into law by 2021. requires retail stores of 500 of more employees to have a gender neutral section for toys. okay. here we go. okay. first of all, the light- light-heartedness, not all girls play with barbies and not all boys play with gi joe. you are starting to discriminate when we didn't before.

>> the democrat behind this, evan lowe says the purpose is to just let kids be kids. only one with stigma is evan lowe. kids will be kids regardless of what the adults do, they grab a barbie or tluk and do not think anything of it. this bill is for adults to make a political statement. it is so california democrats can pat themselves on the back for forcing gender ideology down everyone's throats. >> dr. saphier: what point did they tell them how to line their aisles. >> tammy: cent ran planning for businesses is about training and

training individuals not just on the issue at hand, do i have it wrong and little kids who absorb this stuff and say what is gender and why is barbie in with this truck and that conversation is forced upon parents. it is right for them, sex is a topic, gender might be a topic, private family matter. in the government's interest that they know better. this is attack on family. whether gender transition, that is what this is about. parents understand that and so fawith greatest country in the world have done a good job raising american children and not going to stop. they can't help themselves. they have to be the best voices. my favorite toys growing up were

marbles. kids find their way, the government does not want us to describe our way. >> i believe she was the marble champion. we saw what happened to target, their sales went down and people started pushing back. they don't want conversations with kids when they are out shopping. this is for places with 500 employees, talking about target and wallmart, what is going to happen to places because of this california law? >> i find this mystifying and wonder who gets to be on toy patrol. go decide what is gender neutral or not. go in and pick dolls and toys,

i'm mistified and i wonder whose job to patrol toy stores. i have a two year old and seven year old, the two year old is all about trucks, he was all about the spa, he has painted nails. everything is fabulous. i don't know what is going to happen in the stores. big retailer can afford the $500 and stock how they please. we'll see how it plays out. >> joe: we have kids the same age, my son wants to be the next lionel and astronaut on the side and my daughter wants to be taylor swift's manager. we see them having tampons in the men's room, how does that make sense?

what resources do we spend to track this stuff? highest rate in the country, more people leaving california than any other state because priorities are out of whack and this is what lawmakers are talking about. >> dr. saphier: sometimes you see a moment of clarity from gavin newsom. colorado supreme court, let's not infringe too much on public's free choice. little boxes that appeal to his democratic base, he thinks it does not cause harm, it does take being a kid out of going to the store. it is unfortunate. >> joe: boom. >> more "outnumbered" coming up next.

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would take the cash and run. detroit, memphis, new orleans, san antonio, take it and run. katie. >> i'm from detroit, so i guess it checks out that i would keep the cash. because here is the thing. hear me out. who are you supposed to return the cash to? >> exactly, they say give it back. to who? >> if i found a wad of cash on the new york city street who am i going to turn it into, the new york police department what are they going to do with it? if you lose $1,000, i'm so sorry but that is on you and i'm going to take it and buy myself a pair of shoes. >> distracted walking, maybe you get tips, working as a waiter and money and it drops, if you hand it into the police, supposedly someone might call the police, the nearby precinct, did anybody hand in cash. i would think in a city where we need to be asking will you leave

a louis vuitton back, smash and grab. >> let's say we found the money in a bag and it had somebody's i.d. in, would i give it back, i would. and if i didn't know the name, i would give it to charity. nicole is looking at me like it's never going to happen. >> i would give it back, but random money on the street, sorry. i'm keeping it. >> good for you. >> running out of time -- i would give it back if i can. >> of course, of course. nicole. >> that's what you said during the break. >> thanks, everyone, don't forget, dvr the show. now here is "america reports". thank you for joining us. >> i want to be very clear. our borders are not open. >> the border is secure. >> the president has done more to secure the border and to deal withis