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tensions of migrants ratcheting up in the new year. as officials around the country point fingers over who is to blame for overwhelmed cities across the u.s. ♪ >> it was outrageous that they are saying they cannot deal with this. shannon: pressured growing with to fix the record influx into the country the face-off between red and blue america reaching a boiling point. >> what governor abbott has done, it just wants to create chaos. >> what is common ground possible? a celtic anyone city should have this all this from a reach out to governor abbott opted to work together. >> will stick with texas republican governor greg abbott and denver democratic mayor mike johnson about seeking solution parade than inside the washington beltway >> house republicans themselves voted to decrease the amount of border patrol agents,. >> clerks and some take responsibility providing leadership, this administration has done nothing but attack
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elected officials. >> little sign of working anything out between the white house and congress is a government shutdown looms. >> no more money for this bureaucracy of his government until you have brought this border under control pickwick to group a bipartisan senators comes forward to try to work something out. we'll speak exclusively with gop lead negotiator oklahoma senator james lankford. ana president biden has the stump. >> is not just part of his past. it's what he's promising to the future. >> he says i am bad for democracy. he is bad to democracy for another is he's incompetent or go get reaction from her sunday, get their take on the opening for 2024 al 2024 all right now x news sunday." ♪. shannon: hello from foxnews in washington. fresh off the highest single month of illegal crossings in u.s. history the pressure to
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pass a sweeping border security reforms attached to israel aid gears up as the clock ticks towards a potential government shutdown. republicans who have long called for tighter border restrictions have found unlikely support from blue city mayors calling on the white house for swift action to address the surge of migrants and their cities. as their areas become overwhelmed with buses full of people being transported to their cities by state republicans in a moment we'll talk with two leaders at the center of this debate texas republican governor greg abbott's and denver democratic mayor mike johnston. first we turn to casey stegall live from the southern border at ineagle pass, texas hello. >> good morning a new year has started with new activity out here on the front lines of this escalating crisis. migrants climbed through the border wall this week in lucasville, arizona after cartels cut a hole in the steel structure while in eagle pass at
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texas hundreds continue to illegally cross and turn themselves in. >> is going to be arrested knowing full well if they are arrested and claimant political asylum they will be processed as a political assembly into the cases heard progress they tell fox more than 302,000 migrant encounters were recorded at the southern border last month. that is roughly the entire population of pittsburgh. >> every state and sit in this country as a border state >> house speaker mike johnson led a delegation of more than 60 republican lawmakers to eagle pass where they put pressure on democrats to reach a deal on immigration restrictions. while on the ground johnson also made this prediction about the 2024 election. >> i do believe in large measure because of this issue i do think were going have a change of the white house i think were going have a republican president i think were going to win the senate expand the majority in the house is well predicted as d ministration shot back accusing the gop of standing in the way
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>> have house republicans that's literally blocking the president's effort to do something. that is what they are doing their playing political games. >> all eyes will be on washington next week dh secretary mayorkas facing an impeachment inquiry on wednesday. but first he will travel back down here to eagle pass for another operational visit scheduled for tomorrow. shannon: we know you have us covered on that comment casey stegall live at the southern border thank you. joining is now texas or publican governor greg abbott. governor, welcome back to fox to send a. we got the lead negotiator in the senate coming up saturday james lankford the white house says it needs more money he said they are pressing for policy changes. what is the number one thing you would tell senator lankford you need to get the border under control? >> we need to stop the magnet that is enticing people to cross our border illegally coming for more than one or 50 countries
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across the entire globe. and the way you do that is to deny asylum to anybody crossing between a port of entry. if you have a valid asylum claim you can go to the ports of entry of which we have 29 just in the state of texas alone. you must make them seek asylum from either the country they are fleeing or from mexico or some other safe country they go into. that would dramatically cut down on the number of people that you see coming across the border every single day. the second thing that must be done is they mess and the catch and release policies invited administration is put into place. the law already prohibits the mass allowance of people getting out and wandering the country for years before they ever have to go to court for the bite administration is simply not enforcing them.
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they must hold the bite administration responsible denied them the ability to have catch and release. shannon: governor are you in talks with the white house at all? but shannon, know this and that is i provided eight letters to the bite administration includes the president and mayorkas i personally handed a letter to president biden entered secretary mayorkas when they showed up in el paso, texas outlining five things they could do. that would eliminate the crisis of the border. shannon, and response to all eight of those letters i have heard absolutely nothing from the bite administration. shannon: you have firm from new york city the mayor there has announced a lawsuit he says the tens of thousands of people that have been embossed in bite you to his city is overwhelmed. they have announced a lawsuit this week that is against the bus companies that brought the people there. they are citing this new york law any person who knowingly
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brings or causes to be brought a needy person from out of the state into the state for the purpose of making him a public charge is going to be guilty of a misdemeanor the checkup finds and it goes on to say they have to support them at their own expense. they are suing the 17 bus companies for more than $700 million. you not a party to this but do you worry this is an attempt to shut down companies that would do business with the state of texas? and scare away other companies from doing that and will you get involved with the defense of these companies illegally? looks for when there is no worry whatsoever for several reasons. when it's really a political statement by the mayor of new york. you talked about with the purposes of that statute. on the face of the statute alone that is not the purpose why the buses are moving people to new york city. second, what the mayor did, the mayor sued the wrong party fees really trying to cut down on the number of illegal immigrants
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coming into new york he needs to be suing joe biden not to lease a bus companies because it is joe biden and joe biden's policies thus causing the massive multimillion influx into the united states that leads to many of them wanting to go to new york. the third thing i will tell you and that is the lawsuits is completely legally baseless the mayor is going to lose it badly for their this very specific reason. everybody who is bus to or planed to new york is already authorized by the bite administration to be within the united states legally. and because of that that means they have the legal rights to travel wherever they want in the united states and the lawsuit by the mayor violates the united states constitution in several respects the mayor is going to lose and lose it badly and i hope he is forced to pay the legal fees for the cost of anybody having to defend against that lawsuit. shannon: that's where that many
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losses will be tracking conjunction with the border. the d.o.j.'s suing you, the state of texas over to july you pass there that would allow police officers and law enforcement to arrest people who are in the state of texas after crossing and illegally from mexico. it would give state officials the ability to remove or deport them. but what the d.o.j. is pointing to what the supreme court did a case i covered back in 2012 arizona had a similar state law they shut it down they said essentially the purview of immigration handling the border is left to the federal government states cannot get involved here. what is sure argument for over assuring that precedent of this law? >> i have three arguments to make sure we are going to win that case. but first i've got to point out this is one of many lawsuits joe biden's filing against the state of texas. date filed to illuminate the buoys that we put in the water that would deny illegal entry into the state of texas. we are in the united state
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supreme court right now or joe were joebiden is begging the und states supreme court to allow the border patrol to cut more than 100 miles of razor where we put up that denies illegal entry into the state of texas and now they are suing to stop the new law that i signed. this law was crafted in a way to ensure it was going to be constitutional. first is drafted in a way that is not conflict with federal law. the arizona law did conflict with law arizona law the state of texas does not conflict with federal law and hence that's one reason we will avoid the preemption allegation made by the federal government for the second one is preemption does not apply. the federal government is refusing to enforce the laws passed by congress. they are not enforcing the laws passed by congress. tfor the lawwe passed simply ene laws passed by congress. shannon, the third reason why the texas case is different than the arizona case is we are
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reliant upon it preemption preemptionourselves under articr section four in article one section 10 of the united states constitution that authorizes texas to do this. shannon: you talk about texas is not taking over what the feds would be doing but they essentially say you are. if you're going to arrest people in texas are being here illegally that is their purview when it comes to deciding who to deport and how to handle immigration of the border where they said there's a direct cross crossover with what texas is doing. quick shannon there is not you and i are both lawyers and you know what i'm about to talk about hopefully we will not lose the audience here. they rely upon what is called field preemption. what that means is t the laws passed by congress preempt the field or totality of the ability for states to do something different. however at the field preemption the federal government is relying upon presumes a federal
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government will be enforcing the law passed by congress. in this case the federal government is not enforcing the laws passed by congress in fact they are acting contrary to the laws passed by congress that creates the opening freak texas to be able to enact a law that simply enforces the very same laws passed by the nazis congress. correct gowe're talking the raze case two, governor thank you for your time. >> think ashanti joining us now denver democratic mayor mike johnston. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> thanks for having a good morning. shannon: texas is said thousands of people bus into denver while you are now doing with that situation. you've talked about how overwhelming it is there. we'll get into some things you are requesting work permits in those kinds of things but there is a word now denver is also giving people one-way tickets to places like chicago, like new york those mayors have said we
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cannot take people we are overwhelmed right knowing the strain you've got there and denver wyatt then sent people onto the other cities as well? >> sure, shannon at one thing was into the governor's point i spend a lot of time each day talking to our newcomers that arrive in denver it's important to understand these stories. these are folks almost all from venezuela. they have walked 3000 miles is probably taken three or four months many are women with kids these are professionals t there school principals and engineers and a woman i talked to is a police officer who refused to tear gas people in her own country so threatened to be killed by her state and so fled. these are the definition with the statute of liberty says send us your huddled masses yearning to breathe free those of the stories we see every day and they are tragic for it at the same time i understand governor abbott's point we agreed no one state or no one city should be expected to carry the entire weight of this arrival but these are human beings with real sufferings going through incredible fees to get here. but yes we have as many folks arrive in denver who have no
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intention of arriving in denver never meant to come to denver they do have family in the united states they have networks they have a friend was a job for them or place to stay and they were trying to get to chicago or los angeles or nevada. they were sent to denver through no goal of their own we help them arrive at the city where they were trying to arrive in other cities to the same with us we are folks to get sent to us from new york or from chicago because they did have family networks here i think that's the best way to set them up for success especially if they do have work authorization in the city where they are arriving. what you talk about work permits i want to put up something senator john cornyn of texas said about this. he said them bite intel's migrants do not come to the u.s. and then creates a magnet like a workwork permits it undermines l deterrence. do you agree with those who would say the reality is millions of people will be encouraged to take dangerous illegal journeys to the u.s. if they believe once they get here they will be able to work at if you did get those permits and denver are there tens of
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thousands of open jobs these folks could fill? >> there are for the tragic part for me every day since doctor migrants w will look at me and y mr. mayor i have strong hands and got a big back a big heart all he want to do his work, can i please work at the saint ncos are called everyday say we have hundreds of open jobs restaurants, hotels, landscape, construction. all these industries are massively understaffed conservancy is m wentzville higr this people in our challenges for something more un-american look a hard worker in the face and saying please, please don't work here in america just sit and let the government support you. that is the opposite of what these individuals want and what we want and i do not want to be the want to tell them not to work. >> do you agree it's a magnet to draw people here the administration will stand up and say don't come which the vice president says repeatedly. then they get this message of course is an economic opportunity here they will come regardless of their legal status when they get here. >> to think of it in the purview of congress to figure out what they want their admission policy to be based on we think our
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capacity is to support those arrivals i can tell you we have farmer open jobs that we have arrivals but what we know is this works if you coordinate that entry if you have cities and states to collaborate the same way we did we brought in refugees from ukraine are refugees from afghanistan we identified cities had capacity. we brought them with work authorization given federal support post will have succeeded tremendously for the great untold story here's a city of chicago has more ukrainian asylum-seekers arrived in last year than venezuelans and you could not find a single what if you look at chicago they've all work authorization of jobs for their neighborhoods contributing because they have the infrastructure. i am hopeful this is really a solvable problem i think we can solve it pretty think it takes is working together to do it. shannon: in chicago a lot of local residents have begin to speak out heated meetings at public events saying they cannot manage this. cities being overwhelmed for their schools, the parks come the shelters people are very angry with leadership there because it is not being managed
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well. now for you in denver you said this could impact -- 15% of your budget and t in the next year wn $80 million to try to care for people in a responsible humane way. what do you then tell the taxpayers of denver about what it's going to get cut in order for that to happen? >> i agree with you. it is unsustainable next current structure. when we have 30 or 40000 people arriving without work authorization, without federal support it is going to be huge drain on cities but that destiny we cannot solve it we could solve it if we had work authorization for folks who came if we have the resources of the border so you could adjudicate these asylum claims faster. folks that arrive in denver at their court dates are 2029 and is five years out because the courts are so backlogged. if you could put capacity at the border to administer the assailant claims and 30 or 60 days, decide was a valid claim send them to interior cities with work authorization even though while they're waiting to hear the claim we could put them to work, solve us and i would say there's a direct relationship the more work authorization the federal
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government gives us the less federal resources they give us if you send some to denver has sweet sixers for court hearing they cannot work in the meantime we are going to need endless amounts of federal support i don't think that's what one of the federal government wants for christmas authorizations will attract apparently millions more people. and as you said trying to humane the care for them as a hole of a challenge for every city facing this. denver mayor mike johnson thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me. shannon: outrage growing in washington over and extort a breach of protocol the pentagon awaiting a three and half days to tell the white house that defense secretary lloyd austin was hospitalized in intensive care and even longer to tell congress and the public. we are going to get reaction from gop senator james lankford he sits on intel and homeland security committees he is live, next. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health.
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then you would know what year it was. i know what year it is. correct defense secretary lloyd often says he takes full responsibility for not disclosing to the white house and the public leap in intensive care for days with following complications from an elective procedure for the white house on the news thursday in a statement released last night austin says quote i recognize i could have done a better job of ensuring ensuring thepublic was appropriy informed. i commit to doing better. the pentagon press association subverted the public has a right to know when u.s. cabinet members are hospitalized. as the nation's top defense leaders secretary often has no claim to privacy in the situation. joining me now to talk about that and a much more senator jas lankford of oklahoma. senator welcome to the show. you sit on the intel committee
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when did you get word of this and do you think we should have known sooner? >> i got word of this yesterday with a new starter breaking to be able to come out on it it's pretty shocking on the smear of the secretary of defense you need to make everyone aware you are out. it's worse than he did not notify the white house he actually notified the white house and everyone else who is working from home during that time. when he was actually hospitalized and his number two was on vacation and not available as well. even apparently the national security council did not know it for the white house did not know it, congress did not know it. we are at a time with a lot of turmoil internationally in the secretary of defense more than a matter of what's in there actually sent over false information saying he was working from home what is not actually available at all that's a hole of the issue. shannon: he says he takes responsibility for the disclosure and so there would be many more questions to come. in the meantime you have been day after day after day been involved in negotiations on to what's happening with the border deal. the administration says it needs more money.
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republicans have been pushing for policy change. can you tell us what you getting two substantive changes that will mean something at the border? and when will we know something more? >> were hoping to get later on this week. nothing has been done in this area for decades. as you know full well the buy demonstration as the authorities they are choosing not to use. but even during the trump administration they struggled in certain years because there are limited in some of the authorities that are there. there's a desperate need of change in the way we handle asylum and a process that we do for us i'll be got to end a catch and release that means you've got to have more bed space to be able to process we've got to have more people to be able to process. both got to fix the process as well it's not just a dollars issue. i would say the house in the senate republicans have been very upset the white house continues if you send us more money will fix this, when it money has been sent to the white house they've used that money to facilitate more people coming into the country rather than stopping the flow. so, let's deal with the policy
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issues audit let's change catch and release us change they were handling asylum so we'll get it and folks just gaming the system to be able to be here for a decade before the hearing is done they are actually turned around. >> so maybe this week? >> hopefully this week to go to get that out everyone want time to vow to read and go through it right now is going to be jammed in this process but it is a matter of trying to be able to get this out. but to make law we have to have a democrat senate and a democrat white house and a republican house to go to go through this. this agreement has to work everyone is counting on this actually working it's going to have to be in agreement at the white house it's a democrat white house and a democrat senate can line up with the republican house and we are working to thread the needle for things that actually work. shannon: sounds like a very difficult thing to accomplish. speaker johnson who was at the board of this week took dozens of house lawmakers down there, all republican for their reports he is thinking about negotiating directly with the white house how that impacts what you are doing? is the greater concern even if
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you get a deal done in the senate connected to the house you. folks over there making very concrete demands about what it's going to take to get their vote. lexis speaker should always be engaged with the white house that should be the basic rule of the speaker and of the leader of the senate to negotiate with the white house. obviously the house has not been heard they passed a very strong bill hr two that laid out principles and here's how to resolve the issues at the border. unfortunately there's not a single democrat that actually voted for that so the house has put out this is what actually fixes everything on the speakers got to be able to sit down on how were going to be able to get there that's the same thing we will do as a senate to work through how we get republicans or democrats in the senate on board. something that makes a difference on our border and to be able to get a pass and in the house. if we can pass us in the days ahead in the senate, sent over the house those court to improve it are the house can take a serious look at it say this makes real progress on the border let's go get this, bank this and keep going for more.
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shannon: how much of the border concerns unit comes to national security interest? with that in mind secretary at mayorkas' heading back down there again he's also facing impeachment at the house. do you think he's doing a good job but it comes to national security? do you support with what the house is doing in regards impeachment? >> owed time at this point i don't think anyone sees that it is going well the board of trade do not binder republicans, democrats, independents, anyone who looks at the border and says it's going well that's being handled well. the problem that secretary mayorkas has is working for the president of the nine states and these are the presidents policies. president trump had a consistent set of policies but he had a thing for different secretaries of homeland security but the policy was consistent on the border. regardless of who the secretary of homeland security was because he had a set of policies these are the biden policies and the problem is present biden's pulses and the border not mayorkas and the way he's carrying it out. this is a big national security issue as you mentioned before. we have had it literally tens of
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thousands of people just in the past year that this administration has labeled as a national security risk that were given a designation special interest aliens that definition is there a national security risk they were released into the country into this decade-long backlog. that is a terrible idea so not only to have individuals coming into the country that do not qualify for asylum and all of us so they do not qualify for asylum there just being released into the country this backlog we also know that there are people national security risk and have been labeled by this white house that are being released into the country we literally have no idea where they are. shannon: with that in mind secretary mayorkas said he's advising your group well if you're meeting with him with face-to-face or having conversation but how in the world to see response of information the reality of it? >> he is not actually doing the policies providing what's called technical assistance when we are negotiating things out at times we have to go back to homeland security so it's operational how
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does this work on the ground to be able to get that? we are driving policy issues we are reaching out to him to go through technical assistance in the process as well. i would tell you he has said several time give me more authorities and i will take this on. at this point but it tested out and try to make sure that because the biggest thing we can do is actually try to have mandates in this that we actually enforce at the border and take on the issue of how we actually handle asylum again. this has been a big problem now for over a decade it does not get better by doing nothing it's better by doing something congress has to pass something after decades of doing nothing in this we have got to pass something to make this better. shannon: quickly it's tied to the bigger package the white house once on aid for ukraine and for israel, or look in a potential government shutdown looming in the next couple of weeks. against this backdrop. your other negotiator on this, democrat chris murphy senator has said this. the fate of the world is at stake in these talks but he tweeted this on christmas day it's up to republicans in congress whether this is the last christmas and a free
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ukraine. the fate of the world' is that how this feels to you? x there is a lot tied up in this the president put together a request for national security did request for israel, ukraine, what's happening in the indo pacific the rising more aggressive china and also border security. but at the same time he said we need funds for all of that we responded back and said we understand the funds for israel winners and funds in taiwan, the funds in ukraine but this is not a funding issue along the border. this is a policy issue we are demanding a real change in policy. we are engaging to be able to help the rest of the world we are the role model for the world on freedom. we understand that engagement as who we are as the united states of america. we also have a responsibility to protect our own country we are going to do that for quick senator, thank you for the update we will watch for the text this week, appreciate your time. >> thank you for. >> gop presidential candidates make their closing arguments barnstorming iowa just days ahead of the states critical
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to >> his front runner status as his rivals look to cut into his lead. fox news national correspondent bill melugin is live in des moines. what are you hearing from the possible caucus goers there? >> they are excited to get out there. we are just eight days away from the first in the country iowa caucuses it is officially crunch time for these candidates. we are all going to find out do these polls actually match reality? these candidates are making the final push. >> the people of the state are going to cast the most important vote of your entire life you got some blitzes on the hawkeye state progress i am running for your family's issues. i am writing solely for this country per. >> the energy on the ground is good. people want something new. >> the left will give you it's not the right vision progress time is running out for these gop presidential candidates to make their pitch. before iowa voters make their choice on generally 15th. former president trump maintains a huge lead in the polls.
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the target on his back is getting bigger. >> when it comes to trump, he can call me anything except attacks like haley i have never raised attacks but why don't we ask them, that's right he won't get on a debate stage because something one running but has delivered on one 100% of the promises that he has made. as a governor, wouldn't it be nice to have someone doing that again? >> trump is targeting president biden who called him a threat to democracy during a campaign speech in valley forge on friday. >> he is willing to sacrifice our democracy. put himself in power bricks he runs out of fuel. they fuel does not last very long. you notice the speeches start off very energetic. he is a threat to democracy, by the end is like i've got to get off it. this is the man we should have for our president. >> and shannon, governor desantis seemed to slam shut the idea that he would be anybody's
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vp candidate. he said he would not accept the vp position" under any circumstance because he feels he would not be able to get the job done as vp that he has been campaigning on he said if it came to that he would rather finish out his term as florida governor but will send back to you. >> rarely hear folks be that strident about it. built live in iowa, soon a couple days thank you bill. it is time now for the said a group that six axios report of red presidential candidate and my own congressman john delaney. josh holmes former chief of staff to mitch mcconnell and kraushaar we have the two josh is back together today. happy new year, good to see all of you. let's start there. we had a speech of president biden on friday which was very dark at harking back to other speeches he has given saying i am here to save democracy and freedom. josh, does it work? then you see what you get from former president trump bring it on you or the real threat to democracy but. >> it is a throwback to the
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successful 2020 campaign message from then candidate joe but he's going to save the soul of america. if you look at the polls you see that issue of democracy, januarw issues that democrats have an advantage on when it comes to democracy and the fundamentals of democracy. the challenge though is biden is now the incumbent he has a record as to defend and trump is the challenger she is out of office. voters care a lot more about the border, they care about the economy the care about a lot of other issues that biden has a very deep record on their not doing this white house favorably on the other issues. it's going to be an issue is when democrats feel they have to go back to because it is a winning issue for them. but there are a lot of other bread-and-butter issues voters care a lot more about right now. it's a statement the presence going to move on to south carolina and speak there for this is how the philadelphia inquirer but said they say mother emmanuel a and b the church there and trusted next week biden expected to call out white supremacy along with the
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assault on the nation's capitol generates 60 will make an appeal to black voters, who support for biden has decreased in polls compared with 2020. biden is losing support among hispanic and young voters and polls show so what is he got to do in that speech tomorrow? >> is going to win this election is not going to with hope and optimism and the early first two speeches show exactly how they tend to around the entire campaign is that a got a recordt frankly the american people don't like it. you have it set of circumstance you've got to figure how to bring an opponent down to where you're at it where he's at is the mid 30s from the approval standpoint. he is got to try to provoke anything he can to get a base of support. some energy and they have shown very little at this point. that is got to try to figure out what unites the middle and 20 and 2022 as josh said he had some success in imaging center right or suburban electorate that this guy, donald trump is a danger and is a threat. whether or not that takes a
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precedent over how people feel about the economy, the border, whatever remains to be seen but he does not have let a place in the play but this might be the loan is got very good expressive obama counts among those a cordial "washington post" is worried about what's going on. at the lunch she had with president biden they said former president barack obama has raised questions about the structure of the president's reelection campaign and grew animated and discuss the 2024 election former president donald trump's potential return to power. john, as the white house missing an opportunity to be campaigning in a different way? do you thing they're taking donald trump seriously? looks i think they're taking donald trump's ears of the presidents talk about these issues not only because they are good for him politically, he did win the election in 2020 precisely on these issues. so we have a road map to show that they work he also cares about these things. the president understands united states is much more than lines on a map he thanks or set of ideas a set of principles and he
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believes that at his court. so he is right to talk about these issues he's a steward of our democracy we are on the anniversary of generally six the terrible duct at our nation's history he is right to be out there reminding people what the stakes are and why it is important that we continue to strengthen our democracy and we continue to have a leader who actually cares about these issues. he also is going to run on the record. part of the president's job is to make sure all the democrats back on the same page. look at the presidents poll numbers some of his numbers are soft because of democrats who think maybe he has not done enough on issues et cetera. they will come home as he continues to reiterate how successful his administration is bent over the past three years free. >> will there be a lack of enthusiasm over some of these issues? not they would show up is just they don't show up. >> that is the biggest concern right now. we have all seen the polls we know democrats are concerned i did may be lacking in that
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enthusiasm that democrats in particular really depend on when it comes these important general elections they need young people to turn out and vote. they need racial minorities to turn out and vote. these are the areas we are seeing people start to lose faith in president biden. we are starting to see for the first time the strategy the biden campaign is trying to m make. we know they see it successful issues been democracy and dobson of course countering the jan six narrative countering terms antidemocratic language sometimes and also of course abortion they see is another key issue and then with the latest speech we are looking forward to, we see biden trying to again re- build a coalition he and former president obama have depended on for so many years for quick student loans too. you throw that in a little side issue. >> looked president trump turns out two to types of voters prey turns out republican primary voters who are particularly loyal to him and he turns out democrats. and at present biden understands
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separate president obama understands that. i'm sure they talked about that. quick speaking of turnout expectations going into i hear is what politico says trump and his aides face a unique problem once this following only to view expectations are sky high and trump himself a set them there. >> yes he has and there's nothing to disabuse people of that. every poll becomes out shows him in these massive leads you see nobody be able to put together the kind of consolidation nikki haley has in new hampshire the state of iowa so far but ron desantis has made that in alamo moment for his campaign is going to have to figure out if he is in second is going to have to have some distance to third where presumably it nikki haley would finish. he is got to be threatening trump at some level to keep the momentum going to bring them through a state like new hampshire or is not going to do very well into south carolina and ultimately the rest of the campaign. that feels anticlimactic in many
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ways. but you never know. iowa is a caucus state that does some unpredictable things progress and doubts are we just know who wins. not too far in the past but hopefully josh we will know who wins their on election about how important is that question require times the winter there are some phenomena are the president for greg's trumpets and dominant position in iowa. the news out of i was not going to be a close race is going to be trumpeting whole lot better and consulting the party showing his support with socially conservative voters in ron desantis has been spending a lot of money and really try to capitalize on i think a secondary story of nikki haley beats ron desantis, finishes in second place in state or she did not spend quite as much time as desantis is not quite as much of the infrastructure that could give her huge momentum into new hampshire work trumpets a lot more vulnerable per books desantis said the ground and there is going to disprove these polls would know a little bit more than a week from now. that is around 12 the panel don't go anywhere because up next is president trump max's way across iowa the supreme court says it will weigh into the battle over blue state
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>> all of that sets a historic set of historic questions for this country to answer in many of them are going to end up in front of a very maga eyes supreme court. shannon: okay democrat senator on trump's legal battles ahead in 2024 we are back now with the panel. president trump talked about it this weekend he said they're going to go after the supreme court try to talk them out of doing something that may be the right thing legally. here's what he said friday. the owns he supreme court today.
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.if they rule in his favor it will be horrible for them. it we will protest the houses d do all of things on that puts pressure on people to do their own thing but. >> the right thing is deciding in his favor the karl have to muddle this out. but gosh the court does not want to be in the middle of this and they are a numerous to numerous fronts an election year. >> the supreme court is going to be awake and on the 2024 election. in a weight we have not seen in a very long time if ever to be frank. we are synced trump already starting to find the way he wants the message around this lent leave and open a possibility the court would side for him that he will be clear to be on these balance across the country. the court would put to rest some of the efforts that are still on goring across the country to see if trump should be removed from these ballots there seems to be some confidence there that that might happen it's interesting to hear him defending a potential decision or up until now he has tended to view himself as the
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victim of the justice system for the victim of judicial decisions they are so it is certainly a different tactic we are seeing from the former president. shannon: chaucer's the issue of obstruction charges to january 6 defendants that are public now up to the supreme court he is charged with a couple of the same counts but feels like this is all in a collision course right before we get into the convention's requests are going to spring a lot more time focusing on the court room than the campaign trail because it trumped the timing of this is very critical because the beginning of the generate six the try was before super tuesday maybe that have some impact on the prime but it's looks like it's going to take place later. and for trumped the case this is supercharged with the base it helps with the republican voters so there are some polls and some evidence that among swing voters there could be some swing voters look at trump's legal problems a possibility of a conviction they may vote for joe biden vote for a third-party candidate if those legal situations worsen for
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trump or the timing matters. trump certainly has been helped by the legal mess because he predicted it would work for him. >> it's like kryptonite for the base. but it has been a challenge and a lot of wildcards, we look at the general election for greg's exactly want to go across the street from the supreme court back to capitol hill. an announcement from house gop they're going to continue investigating issues of anti-semitism on campuses come days after former harvard president claudia gaye wrote a lengthy piece in the "new york times," she said this those who had relentlessly campaign to oust me trafficked in lies and insults recycled tired racial stereotypes about black talents and temperament they pushed a false narrative of indifference and incompetence. josh is sparking this conversation again about the conversations about gei about race issues, all kinds of things are blowing up again. >> i cannot think of an episode that is exposed to greater
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intellectual vacancy and a lack of accountability in higher education system in this country than the claudia gaye episode. ultimately her answers completely telling it has nothing to do with her comments of anti-semitism. no mention of a plagiarism issue which by the way it is very real. her problem as it is all racist. it is all republicans attacking me. where's the accountability in any of that? this is something the left his gun way too far out over their skis on over the last three or four years and now you are seeing that start to should be reeled back in by the american public and they are demanding some accountability i'm not sure this is going away anytime soon i think their corporate war rooms all over this country that are going to be doing with di and a very different ways and they thought a couple years ago provokes her comments could have been better on the issue but she does in this piece also say the congressional hearing she got caught up and felt like it was a
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trap that was late for her. but to the point because you have been a businessman and you have dealt with i'm sure the corporate level axios had this piece companies are backing away from di anything that smacks of quota is out they quote diana scott of human capitol center at the conference board. businesses are pulling back from the di turn the focus is moving away from those three words towards efforts around quote well-being and inclusion. how do american businesses now navigate this? >> businesses where they are for-profit or any organization understand diversity is a strength. i started to businesses, took them public. my businesses were diverse they were diverse by gender per they were diverse by racing and portly there were diverse by ideas. you need diversity of thought as well as a diversity of gender, race, other forms of diversity you are stronger when you have those things. and businesses understand that so they are not at all going to back away from that concept.
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if you take a business with 100 white men who are progressive and that was the entire workforce you would love to compete against that business because she would say they do not have diversity of thought. and that is help business for. >> it isn't the problem di has gotten away from the diversity of thought? i made it diversity for diversity sake progress you need diversity of thought you also need other forms of diversity as well you do need gender diversity need racial. you need to have -- in any enterprise with its aboard or the team you need to have people thinking about the world differently from their own perspectives. and businesses understand they're not going to back away from that. now there's court decisions and thanks about quotas et cetera that will change. but the fundamental notion that if you have a more diverse business you are going to win the playing field, businesses are not backing away from the piglets bill is a well-known harvard alum who pushed for gaye to be ousted rather lengthy piece it's thought-provoking worth reading. >> he was right to push for her
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to be oust that's has nothing to do. what she said in that hearing and the brazen anti-semitism that is occurring on the campus, it was right for her to resign these are different issues piglets what he says is businesses should be about diversity in all those planes the diversity of thought or is his fear was the more he looked into what is going on it turned into a press versus a presser is not about diversity. it's worth a read panel thank you very much will see you next sunday. the israel defense forces announce the war effort against hamas is changing gears. they very latest what's happening in gaza right now we wiwilltake you like to israel n. with the freestyle libre 3 system... know your glucose levels no fingersticks needed. all with the world's smallest and thinnest sensor. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. try it for free at freestylelibre.us. i'm jonathan lawson,
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♪ shannon: israel says its war against hamas is entering a new phase, it plans to partially withdraw forces in gaza in the coming month, and some of the reservists who have been called up will return to civilian life. trey yingst is on the ground in tel aviv with more on the current state of play. hello, trey. >> reporter: good morning. it's been three months since the october 7th massacre, and the israelis are still fighting for territory inside gaza. israel's goals do remain the same, to look for the remaining hostages and also destroy hamas if military and governing capabilities. battles have shifted further south with the main fighting now taking place in central and southern gaza, the ongoing
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military action falls amid the backdrop of diplomatic efforts. u.s. secretary secretary of state antony blinken is in qatar right now in a visit to the middle east and the gulf. among his goals are to move forward a post-conflict plan for gaza. on saturday hezbollah fired more than 40 rockets into northern israel in what they called an initial response to last week's killing of a hamas deputy chairman in beirut. the attack drew an immediate israeli response with new airstrikes against hezbollah command positions in southern lebanon. america's top diplomat also looking to address a growing crisis in the red sea. ongoing attacks against commercial shipping vessels are diverting vessels around africa instead of traveling through the suez canal. majority maersk announced -- macing announce ifed it would avoid the rer the foreseeable future. israeli officials are
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increasingly possess mix about finding a diplomatic solution to the rising tension across the region, and they are preparing for the possibility of a broader war with. shannon. shannon: trey, our thanks alls to you and your team. and a quick note this morning before we go, my podcast living the bream drops this morning, i talk with mitch albom to talk about his new book, the little liar, a riveting tale about the fight for truth in the middle of the holocaust. and as a reminder, we are a week away, a little bit more, from the first votes of the 2024 presidential election. the iowa caucuses take place january 15th. "fox news sunday" will get you ready for the big day, we'll be live from des moines next sunday. that's it for today. thank you for joining us. i'm shannon bream, and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ . will: happy sunday. say it, pete. pete: i already did. ♪
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