government. >> we have a hunter sight today oh boy. >> hold on hold on. order. order. >> you are the epitome of white privilege. >> what are you afraid of? you have no balls. >> here doesn't seem to be too afraid. >> do you have a dad? does he call you? >> 2,000 migrants moved into the school. >> if you didn't see it coming, then you are either blind, dumb, or just stupid. >> the chase imperfection and it's hard to be perfect. >> one week. we'll have a special edition of the program sunday, 6:00 p.m. eastern, "special report" previewing the iowa caucuses. remember, if you can't catch us live, set your dvr 6:00 p.m. in the east and 3:00 p.m. on the west coast. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight fair balanced and unafraid. "the ingraham angle" is next. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. breaking news on multiple stories. stunning scenes eagle pass, texas tonight as the lone star state takes the stand for its own sovereignty and the rule of

law by blocking the biden welcome wagon from fast tracking migrants into the united states. and in chicago, they were forced to move thousands of migrants into what they are calling warming buses due to the record cold temperatures hitting that region. and moving east, to massachusetts, a group in melrose called the immigrant support alliance is reportedly encouraging residents to open their homes to the migrants. information session calling the host home experience takes place on monday. the notice reads are you curious about what is involved in hosting an immigrant for short-term shelter as they begin their journey toward independence? today housing immigrants in your house is voluntary but tomorrow, we'll see at a time when the country is struggling to cope with and pay for the millions that biden has already waived in, most of them from third world countries, draft

legislation being supported by chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell will make it even easier for biden to green light almost 2 million more over the next year alone. now, i asked the ranking member of the senate homeland security committee about it earlier this week. >> border deal that the republicans are cooking up that chuck schumer and apparently mitch mcconnell and others are going to agree to to that, you say? >> it's a sell-out. it's going to continue to allow illegal immigration, particularly migrants. it's saying oh, we will let 5,000 people come illegally a day and then after that we might try to stop the next 5,000 that day. it's completely a sell-out. but it's because people like senator mcconnell care more about ukraine than anything else. >> laura: i would say that this is the most important piece of legislation that will be considered this year, perhaps in the last five years. and, yet, tangled up with another $60 billion spending request for ukraine. now, this is the first sign it's bad.

oklahoma senator jim plank ford on the border subcommittee is spearheading this bill and it's supported by the most notorious big spending open borders republicans. >> this shouldn't be something that we don't address here. how can we address this in a bipartisan way? unfortunately, the house didn't have any democrats on board and for the last two and a half months we have met n a bipartisan way to hammer out how do we solve this? >> senator lankford, you have done an extraordinary job of negotiating what i think is going to be a successful compromise that's going to get support from republicans and democrats. >> laura: yeah says thome tillis the man who volted to give joe biden a trillion dollars for infrastructure which ended up being gateway to even worse so-called inflation reduction act. well, details in this border bill are already leaking out and they usually doing these types of things. releasing the text of a bill in the middle of the night. they bury the damage and

hundreds of thousands ever pages of text that is almost always written by lobbyists. but, tonight, we seem to know this. anything schumer and durbin will agree to will be a schiff in the back of american workers and a gift to big business and biden's campaign. why do it foreign workers allowed in the country. give immediate worker poor mitts from those released from custody and still allow several thousand more migrants every day to enter re-election for 2022. senator lankford sounded pretty tough on the biden border fiasco. he was hitting biden's decision to simply process people into the country more quickly and at the time that lancaster ford was right. someone should go try to find

him. now, look no further than his bed fellows in the house who are parroting their tired old argument. >> we need immigrants in this country foreclosure get the fact that the farm that our -- that our vegetables would rot in the ground if it weren't -- if they weren't being picked by many immigrants, many illegal immigrants. >> laura: do you ever remember not having vegetables growing up? neither do i. now, no republican should touch this or be involved with this sham in any way, shape, or form. >> let the voters sort this out in november. we don't need a fig leaf of enforcement. we need a new president. mcconnell even admitted behind closed doors they are afraid that trump won't cave and give them the foreign workers they want. read between the lines there it might make sense that democrats would want to import more workers into the united states, right? they're the party of woke wall

street and the ble blew toke c e crazy. makes no sense for them to help the left at every turner senator mike lee, thank you for being here tonight. hereby's what is in the border deal more specifically according to the accountability project. they would increase green cards by 50 k a year. they would provide work permits for adult children of h 1 b visa holders. provide immediate work permits to every illegal alien released from custody. taxpayer funded lawyers to certain a unaccompanied children and mentally incompetent aliens and 5,000 per day minimum the number of asigh lees allowed into the united states. do the math 365 days a year times 5,000 that's

1.8245 million asigh lees waived into the united states under this so-called deyour reaction? >> my reaction is we have no business negotiating this bill and proceeding as if the border crisis unfolding in the united states border president. existing law gives president joe biden more than enough authority to prevent 300,000 people who crossed illegally into our border just last month alone. and 300 or so terrorists who have come across our borders, just the ones we know about. he has authority to do that written in may language not shall. it means discretionary no right to it any moment when we are bogged down the solution is to stop processing asylum applicants. not come on in and buy you a

plane ticket to anywhere in the united states. my number one concern with this proposal, with this entire negotiation. it falsely suggests that the border crisis exists and persists for want of adequate legislative authority. that is not true what president biden and mitch mcconnell and few others want to do use the promise of border security provisions as bait to extort and extract republican votes for ukraine aid. they want to pass $106 billion badge, most of which goes to ukraine. they don't have the votes, so they are promising border security. if they were willing to bring us border security they would have brought us border security a long time ago and could have done so under existing law. >> laura: here is what senator mcconnell is saying about the deal, watch. >> we are inching closer to a chance to restore sanity enforcement mechanisms, and the rule of laugh.

none of the challenges we face from our southern border to the red sea get any easier the longer we wait to address them. >> laura: why is he wrong, senator? >> well, is he wrong because he is suggesting that it's congress' fault. remember, congress makes the laws. congress doesn't enforce the laws. we do have laws on the books, sure. they are in need of retooling from time to time. we could use that but that's not wife we have the full fledged crisis with 10 million people coming across illegally since the day joe biden took office. that's not the reason. the reason is he refuses to use the authority that he has got. so i couldn't disagree more with mitch mcconnell on that point. is he suggesting that we must act to do it. no, mr. mcconnell. joe biden must act. he has the power. he just doesn't want to do it. >> laura: so this means senator ron johnson, holly, rand paul,

you, vance, i mean, there is a core grouch senators who are still standing up for the american workers, they -- y'all got to stick together. and everyone can call their senator and respectfully let their voice be heard. senator, i understand that you have decided whom you are going to endorse in the republican primary. are you going to share it with us tonight. >> yeah. i have made that decision. and as i get that that, i want to be clear, this is a choice. the american people have a choice to make. in this circumstance, they have a rare historically unusual chance to choose between two presidents. they have a chance to choose between order and lawlessness. the opportunity of putting america first or america last. i choose first and always to put america first. look, whether you like donald trump or not, whether you agree with everything he says, or not, he is our one opportunity to choose order over chaos and

putting america first over america last. it's time to get behind him. and, look, in presidential campaigns there are always a lot of promises made. my favorite kinds of political promises are promises kept. donald trump has kept promises that he has made as he has campaigned in the past. we know what kind of president he will be. whether you agree with him on every point or not, if you are not content with the status quo, the status quo of lawlessness, of putting america last. it's time to get behind donald trump and i wholeheartedly endorse donald j. trump in his bid for the presidency in 2024. >> laura: senator, we really appreciate your joining us tonight and i'm interested in seeing what president trump says about this bo teal and i know yu will be talking to him about it. texas national guard as i said has completely taken over a park in eagle pass. that's right up against the border. we were there in 2019. they put up razor wire and fencing to prevent illegals from

getting through. they are blocking now border patrol from that area as well. now, the biden administration, i think, should be thrilled that texas is enforcing border laws, if they actually cared about the country. instead, they are actually going to the supreme court claiming in an overnight filing that texas' new action since the government's filing demonstrate an escalation of the state's measures to block border patrol's ability to patrol or even surveil the border and be in a position to respond to emergencies. what is the real emergency here? we're joined now by stephen miller, president of america first legal. former senior adviser to president trump. steven, now we have a state trying to do the job of the federal government and the federal government is suing the state for actually carrying about law and ordered. >> well, this is one of the most astonishing situations i think we have ever seen and it seems to always be a never ending series of new staggering events on our border. here's the back story. the border patrol was using this

park, shelby park as a staging ground for mass releases. they were collecting illegal aliens from all throughout the area. and even using water taxis to collect illegal aliens in the liver, bringing them into shelby park, remove where necessary, barriers created by texas. and then send them on to their final destinations all throughout america. so, the texas dps and national guard and governor abbott said we are not going to allow you to use this park to stage mass releases. so they use their own disaster declaration and used the national guard to assert control over that park and then to have their dps officers arrest for trespassing any illegal aliens they encounter in the area. >> steven, when you think about this playing out. you got the migrants in chicago freezing in the cold, buses being brought in to try to warm people. boston is trying to figure out a way through mel rose and a city in massachusetts to house

migrants in homes. you have the disaster of the school in new york having to be evacuated for the migrants. and, yet, on capitol hill, it's like deja vu all over again. they are trying to ram through a border deal that, you know was written by lobbyists months ago. >> well, in the most important thing and my position on this laura hasn't changed in three years. it gets back to the power of the purse. joe biden is using federal taxpayer dollars to take illegal aliens and resettle them in all 50 states. using your money, my money, and the money of everyone in washington. the department of homeland security funding expires in february. the house has the checkbook. write that bill that makes clear that not one federal penny can be used to release or resettle one illegal alien inside the united states. and the tax service provided by american taxpayers for illegal aliens and that will shut this down. that has always been the

solution. it's been the solution in 2021, 2022, and now 2023. stop funding our own destruction. >> laura: steven, do you expect president trump will come out vociferously against this sham border deal? >> well, i don't want to get ahead of any announcement he will make. i'm sure everyone is waiting to see what the payable to details are. but president trump has been consistent in saying that we must get to the source of the problem, which is ending catch and resettle. for three years he has been the one out in front saying catch and resettle is the end of this country. >> laura: that continues it. >> you must deport them. >> this -- i mean, obviously this fast tracks this. he will be against. this if you are correct, in stating his position. steven, thank you. now, iowa and to get hit by life-threatening blizzard just days ahead of the iowa caucuses. weave will be there. and what will the turnout be on monday because of this cold snap? will it impact the candidates

during their final few days of campaigning. governor ron desantis is there and he is here next on that and a lot more. ♪

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the very cold capitol hill iowa caucuses. ingraham angle will be on the ground monday to bring you political analysis. you won't see it anywhere else. i think it's my eighth iowa caucuses i'm attending. looking forward to it. our show isn't the only thing coming to down. >> the blizzard, you heard about that. weather coldest in caucus history. how will had or will this change the dynamics for monday's turnout? joining me now is republican presidential candidate and florida governor ron desantis. governor, i know you're making the final pitch. what is your pitch given, you know, nikki haley gaining a little bit of ground on you in iowa and obviously trump still in the lead? what's the pitch in these final hours? >> well, first, laura, you know us floridians usually don't go north in the middle of a blizzard. we are here obviously competing. i got a lot of folks from my staff in the past that are volunteering to knock on doors and help out. so it's an interesting experience to see all the floridians, my son was throwing snowballs at me today and that's

not something that he had ever even seen a month and a half ago. so, look, our pitch is simple. donald trump is running for his issues. nikki haley is running for her donor's issues. i'm running for your issues and your family's issues, as somebody that has delivered on 100 percent of my promises as governor of florida. and as the only candidate running that has taken on the left and beaten the left on issue after issue. we beat the teacher's unions. we beat fauci. we beat george soros on crime. we beat the democrats on election integrity and on illegal immigration. and we beat the left by banning china from buying land in the state of florida. so we have the ability to produce big results and i think, you know, you talk about this weather. we are approach to iowa is that a caucus is different from a primary or typical election. you have to really build an organization that's going to be able to turn out your commitments on caucus night, which may not be the best environment. now, we did not expect it to be negative 22 when we did it.

but i do feel we are in a situation where our folks are going to show up. we have got every precinct organized. every county organized. and that's requesting to pay dividends. it was a lot of hard work. the media was saying that i was wasting my time. they were saying that why are you going to all 99 counties? i think this is why. we have been able to build a solid following. look, anyone that says they can take a poll and figure out who is going to turn out on monday is not being honest. nobody knows what the turnout is going to be like. i can just tell you that we have put an organization in place where our folks are going to turn out the news came before the show tonight that after iowa you are going straight to south carolina traditionally candidates would go to new hampshire the next contest. i know you are going back to new hampshire shortly after. what kind of message is that sending? >> you are right. thanks for saying it accurately. some say we weren't going -- we

will do an event on n. greenville on tuesday morning. and then fly to new hampshire and do a town hall on cnn later that night and do a lot of stuff in new hampshire. i think the message is simple that, you know, you look at south carolina. nikki haley was governor there, and i have got like five times more endorsements from state legislature's, current and former than she does. that would be unthinkable for the opposite to happen in a place like florida. she is really out of step, i think, with south carolina. we're going to show with the support we have. and people have been focusing on iowa. but we have been building these organizations in new hampshire and in south carolina as well didn't get as much fanfare. we will start in south carolina. do new hampshire. we have a debate scheduled on thursday in new hampshire, wmur debate. i'm the only one that's accepted that debate. i hope the debate happens, but, if not, i will be there if they want to do a town hall, i'm game. >> debate the nikki haley chair. now, governor, senate republican

leader mitch mcconnell as i started the show with is escalating his personal efforts to push this so-called bipartisan border reform deal tying it up with ukraine and israel for some reason. we find out that they are going to be able to green light 5,000 migrants a day into the united states more efficiently settle them. 1.825 million migrants waived into the country plus all these other foreign workers waived in. your reaction tonight as republicans are beginning, i think, to peel away? >> well, when i'm president, that will be dead on arrival. you know, some of these republicans are so out of touch with the voters. laura, i have gone to all 99 counties in iowa. it's not a border state. yet, every single town hall i do, i get multiple questions about illegal immigration and about the border. republicans want people that are here illegally to be deported, which we need to do. they want to end these insane border policies that biden's doing. yes, they want a wall.

they want to see that con. and they also want to see action against the drug cartels. i think what you are likely to see out of this deal is the typical lucy with the football promising you are going to deal with the border and of course the ball gets pulled away and same old song and dance. at the end of the day, there are some republicans and i would say nikki haley is one of them. you know, they want the open borders because the donors want it for the cheap labor. we got to start putting the american people first and stop worrying about, you know, these guys that don't care with our sovereignty. we are going to lose this country if you keep allowing millions and millions of people to come in at this rate. it has to stop. >> so, governor, you tell these republicans no deal, correct? >> , not. the only deal would be house bill, house resolution 2 that chip roy, who is a supporter of mine, has put forward. it solves all the problems. and it would actually cause the

surge to stop. and anything short of that is just not going to do the job. so i would say any republican in congress no half measures. no failure theater. if you can get something that actually solves the problem, fine, but i don't think there is any way in heck that biden would agree to something that actually solves the problem. this is part of the left's agenda to have open borders. and he is not going to go against his base on this given his bad political standing. >> laura: well, governor, i thought that would be the answer and i'm delighted to hear that we are going to be in des moines on monday. will you join us on set? >> i got to know -- i don't know where i'm going to be. i'm going to speak at a couple caucus locations. let us get back to you. in i'm in the des moines area, i would love to do it. >> laura: governor, thank you so much. we appreciate it. joe is so incapable of doing his job that he is sending his wife tout do it for him. my angle explains it, next. ♪

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lawyer the rescue. that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> laura: the scenes today were not reassuring. after the president bombed the houthis and called a lid early last night, he bumbled his way through a school in allen town today. >> this is morgan and sam -- >> along with our allies. >> secretary austin. >> i do. >> sorry. >> [inaudible] >> >> laura: i hope that poor girl got extra credit for having to sit there just as we see the deterioration of our cities beset by crime, by migrants, we also see biden's own deterioration with each passing day. simply getting from marine one to his car is a herculean task.

>> and, he has the darndest time saying sentences with numbers. >> on my watch the [inaudible] infrastructure decade. decade. over a billion $300,000,000,000,300,000,000. >> laura: billion 300 quintillion. niko used to say things like that when he was three. go back a decade or so, it's friday we will have fun with this. joe at that point could at least be edited to look peppy. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

>> we're going to be in trouble with jill and michelle. >> something my wife did. >> same time next week. >> same time next week. >> laura: obama getting through that better than vodka. that is 201. enough to the biden campaign is scrambling to find ways to make joe appear vigorous. but is it working? >> mr. president, what did you leisure about the balloon? >> i love how he does that little trot and realizes i better not keep running. they push him out for his first campaign speech at valley forge but then dr. jill has to rush in for the big save at the end. ♪ ♪ because you are a sky ♪ ♪ i don't care

♪ want to tear me apart. ♪ >> at this point, the first lady almost deserves the title doctor since she has been rescuing him on almost a daily business a. but the bidens have such little regard for the intelligence of the american people they think that they can message this problem away. >> one of the things that drew me to him was his strength. i see that strength and that resilience and that steadiness every single day. he has wisdom. he has experience. he knows every leader on the world stage. he has lived history. >> laura: what? we now have a new synonym for ancient it's called lived history. well, she may be his visiting angel but she is america's eyes and ears. >> he can do it and i see joe every day. i see him out, you know,

traveling around this country. i see his vigor. i see his energy. i see his passion. every single day. >> so, to those who say i can't vote for joe biden, he's tooled, what do you say? >> i say his age is an asset. >> laura: and for that report that biden has been on vacation more than a third of the presidency,. >> what people don't see is how hard joe works every single day. that he gets up thinking what he can do for the american people. and he does that, you know, his job doesn't end when we just have dinner together at 7:00. >> right. >> he is on the phone. and he is on the phone with leaders of foreign countries. and he is on the phone with his cabinet. >> laura: when wheel of fortune is over he is hard at work. but, wait a second, did she say he is on the phone with his cabinet at night? medicine cabinet? because we know he wasn't on the phone with his most important

cabinet secretary, at least should be, lloyd austin for at least four days. the vigorous, tireless biden didn't even notice his pentagon chief was missing. you are supposed to ignore that. ignore the fact that your president is decome posing in front of you instead you are supposed to worry about the guy who brought you peace and prosperity. >> this has got to be so different than any races that you -- >> -- it is. >> you and your husband have run. >> yes. >> a little scary? >> it is a little scary. we have to win. we must win. we cannot let go of our democracy. >> and if you don't? >> i don't know. >> can't even think about it? >> no. i can't think about it. >> laura: well, of course, donald trump doesn't jog. he doesn't need to pretend to jog. neither does he need melania to act as his nurse m maid or

co-president. no one doubts is he making the tough calls and his tough talk isn't an act. >> it's not sustainable for our country. we have millions and millions of people here. it is not sustainable. did you see in new york city where they are getting the regular students out and they are putting migrants in their place? we are going to have the largest deportation effort in the history of our country. we are bringing everybody back the way they came from. we have no choice. we have no choice. >> laura: of course is he right. he understands that america can no longer be a super power if we drain our own resources why allowing free riders to take advantage of us. >> would you be committed to nato, for example, if in a second trump term. >> depends if they treat us properly. nato has taken advantage of our country. they took advantage of us on trade and took advantage of the military protection. of the 28 run its at the at the

time pand why were paying the difference. if you don't pay we are not going to protect you incompetence and self-loathing is what the biden administration has shown us. and shown the world from day one. even trump's most fervent detractors though like writer bret stephens they are beginning to see even if they don't agree with him why he is winning. the works class is getting shafted and trump is the only one speaking for them. america needs a leader who can navigate the headwinds that we are facing. strong headwinds. someone who knows how to do the job and who believes in and works for the american people. and until we get one, america is going to grow as weak and as frail as our current president. and that's the angle. coming up, what's more important? dei or your life? i'm going to explain how the country's obsession with diversity is becoming life-threatening. that's right. and it's next. ♪ my brain.

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♪ >> laura: the left's latest obsession with forcing diversity, inclusion standards on america s shredding excellene even in the military. in some settings when dei comes

first and merit second, this may mean needless american deaths and a lot of them. boeing recently bragged not about being the best in the business but about surpassing its diversity quotes with 92% of interviewees they say being diverse. oh, goody, but then not to good, a door flying off of one of boeing's 737 super max. now, when something near catastrophic happens, it's time for everyone to ask the hard questions have you heard of so fundamental as bolt tightening ever going wrong like this? i mean, i haven't. so what is going on? well, maybe just focus on getting the best employees so there is never any doubt. hold them to the highest standards, no matter what their background, their skin color, their ethnicity, their gender, just merit. and now an exchange between a

texas air traffic controller and a veteran pilot is going viral. the air traffic controller was advising the pilot on how to land and when the pilot questioned did, he was told well, i googled it, actually, i googled short approach. what? now there is a petition to get that woman removed from her job after multiple people reported incidents like this. and don't forget biden's choice to head up the u.s. department of transportation himself was a diversity pick. his only experience in transportation was, i don't know, we saw him occasionally commuting on a 10 speed. >> our cabinet doesn't just have one first. or just two of these firsts. but 8 president precedent busting open. now 9 first openly gay nominee to lead the cabinet department. >> thank you, mr. president-elect. thank you for honoring your commitment to diversity with

this administration that you are assembling. >> laura: of course pete has no answers as to why aviation knee max or near mid-air collisions have skyrocketed under biden but 63%. i guess he is the first, maybe that's the first first is he not bragging about. joining me now charlie hurt, fox news and "washington times" opinion editor. i don't think it goes too far people could not saying it happened in this case. the reason for the bolts not being tightened or the procedures not being properly followed but this could happen, people could die as a result of dei. >> well, to be sure. i mean, it gives you a glimpse into what their priorities are. and if their priorities are dei and not tightening the bolts on the door, then that's pretty much all you need to know. but, this is what happens when you put unserious people in charge of serious things. and you could sort of argue that

the biden administration can you hire a press secretary on whatever dei things you want to pick out of thin air, it's not that big of a deal because she just sits up there and makes stupid word salads in front of the press. but when you put people in serious positions like, say, the vice presidency, and put them in charge of the border or put them in charge of the department of transportation, based on all of these -- all of these idiotic rules in order to sort of color by numbers, suddenly it gets very serious. and it's a reminder why you just simply cannot put unserious people in serious situations. >> laura: a host of on msnbc says any concerns voiced such as ours, just racist. fox news will implying planes crash because people hire black people. richest man in the openly

embracing and promoting paranoid racist theories. >> laura: well, they flashed a picture of elon musk and myself up because both of us are raising this question. isn't it better to raise the question now than to try to figure it out after we lose a couple hundred people? >> precisely. precisely. and, you know, the other thing, laura, not only is it going to cost people's lice, not only will this insanity kill people, but it also doesn't even achieve the goal they are going for. if what they're going for is equality, this is not how you reach equality. the only way you reach equality is as you said earlier, you judge people on the content of their character and their capabilities, and you put them and, of course, you educate people, which, of course, these people are also against that as well. this is what you wind up with. >> they don't want equality they want retribution, charlie, great to see i. >> right.

>> laura: hall of fame football coach lou holtz on what make saban's retirement means for the future of college football. and what lessons can politicians learn from it? that's next. ♪

>> why did you decide this was the right time to retire? >> my age started to become a little bit of an issue. i just have a high standard for how i do things, and if i don't feel like i'm living up to that standard, i'm really disappointed. to be honest, this last season was grueling. it took a little more out of me than usual. when you get a little older, that gets tougher, and i'm sure a lot of people can relate to that. >> laura: that's part of the reason why so many love nick saban as alabama's head coach. he demanded and he expected excellence not just of his team, but of himself. i've been in a funk all week because of this. when he saw he wasn't going to be able to do that anymore, he stepped aside. a move that many of our

political leaders could perhaps learn from. joining in now is legendary football coach, hall of fame coach, lou holtz. it's good to see you tonight. your reaction to the nick saban retirement? and what made him so effective? >> i think that nick is a great coach, but he's also a great individual and a great person. but the most important thing is that a coach or any other leader it has high standards. he taught them also in addition to that to be good people. one thing nick saban taught me was he didn't do anything to make him a better athlete. that he's going to try to make them a better football player, and he did it very well. great football coach, great person. he'll be missed, but i don't think age was the only reason that caused him to retire. i've been in that situation. not his completely, but you reach a situation where you win,

it's a relief. he can't celebrate it. when you lose, it's a catastrophe. they lost the opening game and barely beat south florida in the second game. everybody is bitching and moaning. then let's go to the transfer portal, the paying the athlete, the fact that texas and oklahoma are entering into the conference, et cetera, and let's go to the staff you have. he had a lot of great coaches come and go. steve sarkissian, the list goes on and on. but you get to the point that you say, maybe i don't want to have to change the whole staff. i can't give you the reasons, but it was more than just age. >> laura: the transfer portal is just changing. it is changing college football. i understand the arguments for it, but it's not the same game, and things change all the time, but maybe not for the better? >> i think transfer portal is one of the worst things that ever happened.

you don't change the address, you change your problems. how do you have four different quarterbacks start for four different teams in four different years? when you pick a school, it's a 40-year decision, not a 4-year decision. you want that school to have the name on your diploma, the contacts are going to have, et cetera. a variety of different things. and there is something to set about perseverance. wait your time. we had a quarterback, for three years behind him, kevin mcdougall. second team, didn't play a lot. his senior year, he became one of the best quarterbacks in the entire country, led us to an 11-1 season. be patient, wait for your time, and it's all part of learning. going to college. why do we have athletics in college? because i learn more on a football field then i learned in a college classroom. you learn patience,

perseverance, all those things. >> jesse: lou, i'm glad i got to go to that sec to pitch up against georgia. i wasn't going to go because of stuff going on at home, but i'm glad i went to see that game, and him coach that game that last time. i had a chance to meet him over the years, and it was a great privilege. just like it's a great privilege to have gotten to know you over the years, because our former college athletes, coach, we always go back to the team experience, and we appreciate you and your commentary. we need politicians who know how to retire at the right time, as well. come back soon. great to see you. that's it for us tonight. the next time you see me, i'll be shivering in des moines with the rest of the fox hosts. we will bring you the latest details on the ground and stopped by "the angle" monday night. >> jesse: welcome to "jesse watters primetime." tonight -- >> it was really just the grand avenue, can you do this the way you want to do