♪ rachel: well, it's the 7 a.m. hour of "fox & friends" weekend on sunday, january 14th. the all important iowa a caucuses are just one day away, but one candidate is already

taking home an award. >> governor desantis, i want to present to you this participation trophy -- [laughter] probably not going to win the election, right? but we're proud of you for trying. will: plus, climating czar out. john kerry is reported hi stepping down from his white house role what what he plans to do next. pete: and take a bite out of this, it's national hot pastrami sandwich day. and we're celebrating. it's the second hour of "fox & friends" that starts right now, and i've got a sandwich. will: big with old sandwich right there, pete. pete: why not? rachel: why not. ♪ [laughter] ♪ ♪ if you start me up, i'll never stop ♪

will: there's a live look at a a, the and, the stadium in arlington, texas, ahead of the only playoff game of the day. dallas cowboys, green bay packers. 4:30 eastern right here on fox. rachel: so looking at that -- will: wait, is it not -- pete: no, there's two games. will: bills-steelers was -- pete: yeah, i think there were three today. let me check. will: am i off and in sunday night game? pete: yeah. there's always a sunday night game. will: who's sunday night? pete: we'll find out. i'll look it up. i'm on the highlights -- rachel: are you looking at the field and going, i can't wait for this game to start where you're going to lose to the packers? [laughter] will: no, i'm ready. i'm ready. rachel: you know that the -- pete: rams,-lions. will: corrected. live on air. rachel: the cowboys are just like pete's vikings. in the end, they're just jokers. and you mow that, will.

you know that. will: she's been taking lessons from the first best of the will cain show which launches tomorrow. actually, the will cain podcast has been three times a week, i'm going five days a week, four days a week streaming live at fox news if.com and on fox news' youtube. there's a list of who's coming up, and and as i mentioned that first best for monday is going to be there rain or shine to gloat or to have to face me after a dallas cowboys win or loss. he's made his career on it, and i see rachel is ready to blaze that same path. rachel: yeah, well, you know, i just don't trust d a ak. too many -- dak. will: did you look down at your notes before you said that? you looked down at your notes -- she went like this. i just don't trust dak. [laughter] rachel: too many interceptions. pete: she did her homework. rachel: too many -- will: what else you got there? what can go wrong will go wrong. pete: what did sean duffy have

to say? rachel: oh, it's not -- oh, no, i went to a higher source. mike mccarthy -- [laughter] hate in the game -- pete: he struggles with late game clock management. will: that came from sean duffy. pete: it might have if come from clay travis. will: it's true. rachel: i will reveal who i've been philosophizing with football on. pete: hate game clock management. rachel: actually, it resonates with me because, you know, dak has too many interceptions. will: no, he doesn't. rachel: late in the game. he struggles -- will: he's got less than 10. he leads the league, i believe -- touchdown-interception ratio is 36-9. rachel: he's so defensive of dak. pete: because he's so invested in dak. will: this is a weird segment that feels produced in a way that -- it's an ambush. rachel: okay. i'm going to reveal that bobby

has been helping me. [laughter] will: okay. somebody who knows sports. rachel: i tried, i tried. will: writes for outkick. rachel: i looked at these so many times, but it's like chinese to me. will: you had to memorize it and look down and read your notes. [laughter] pete: well done. will: we prepared that session temperature you went into this like -- with your mind made up like many people in iowa. this is from the des moines register, 82% of people, mind made up two days out from the election. how are their minds made up in as follows: 48% already voting for donald trump. something like 20% for nikki haley, 16% for ron desantis. and you can see there if their mind is made up, it's different per candidate. pete: that's really interesting. will: what you're seeing now, bring the two graphics in front of you, if you're voting for

trump, 82 president, dun. right? -- done. 63% for haley, mind made up in support of, could be persuaded for those two candidates still in the 30s. pete: that's interesting. and then it come down to organization and turnout. so if your mind is made up, are you more enthusiastic? i don't know. it's going to be on these campaigns to pull those people out -- rachel: when you go to the caucus, pete, are you just there to -- because i've never been to one. are you just there to vote or are there people trying to persuade you last minute? like -- pete: it's different than a polling place which is run by the government, and so you're not supposed to be campaigning at the polling place. this is run by the republican party. so you can show up with your candidate's t-shirt, walk up to your neighborhood and be, like, yo, change that vote is. a vote for vivek is not a vote for trump. you can do all that at the caucus site. rachel: which explains the

social media jab against vivek. so maybe donald trump's, like -- pete: sure. now you've got trump supporters walking into the caucuses saying, you might like vivek, but you should come with us. will: but you said the process has changed, right? it's less overt, less persuasive, more right a ballot -- pete: but you still have that a communal a moment people are arriving, they're talking together. candidates' representatives are speak. it's not really a hidden ballot, you're kind of holding your vote up. it's more transparent and so more open to persuasion than you would on a secret -- where you go into a booth and you're like this -- will: right. rachel: interesting. pete: it's -- rachel was none too pleased about the read at the begin canning of the hour. rachel: yeah, i was not happy -- pete: about the trophy, because we -- i saw it on social media yesterday. a heckler at a ron desantis event in atlantic, iowa, presented a trophy. here's what went down.

>> real quick before we get started, thank you, everyone. governor desantis, i want to present to you this participation if trophy. [laughter] now, you're probably not going to win the election, right? but we're proud of you for trying. [inaudible conversations] >> sorry, buddy. >> he's special and he's our little snowflake. here you go. do you want the award? we're so proud to give you -- [inaudible conversations] pete: i mean, i find italy lair yous. obviously -- rachel: i did not. pete: -- someone's trolling desantis -- will: i missed something between the two of you. rachel: let me tell you what happened. pete sent this slip to me, and he was, like, isn't this funny i said, actually, i don't think it's funny because i think, and i love you with, pete. but with i just -- pete: you've been a candidate's spouse. rachel: i can put myself in casey desantis' shoes there.

it is cold as you know what, you're campaigning, you're doing your best, and i just think this kind of unnecessary humiliation is unnecessary. pete: he did his best, so he got a participation trophy. [laughter] rachel: listen, i think trump's going to win, i've said on television that i thought it was probably not the best idea for ron desantis to run not only because i didn't think he was going to win, but also because out of loyalty to the fact that donald trump had helped him get elected as a governor. there are all kinds of things there. but what you just saw there is unnecessary if trolling of good public servants trying to do the right thing, campaign, and i just thought -- will: why didn't you send this video to me? [laughter] pete: i don't know. will: why'd you leave me off -- pete: i don't know why i left you off of it. will: i want to dive into that psychology. pete: no, because i sent it to our producer, and then i sent it to rachel -- rachel: i sent it back and said i don't think this is funny -- pete: i'm just a sucker for --

rachel: prank. pete: -- a deadpan. he walked up there seriously. you know, didn't break character. i just thought it was funny. i'll. will: i'm not -- rachel: he did it in front of his wife, i didn't like that either. will: i'm not tickled by it like you are. pete: if i just giggled. women. will: i'm certainly not offended. pete: i get where she's coming from having been on the trail. and i'll say it again, i'm a big fan of governor desantis. he did a fantastic job, but ultimately he's not going to win, and it's not going to, i think, bode well for him. i just thought it was funny. rachel: everyone knows he's not going to win in iowa, so why stick the knife in and embarrass him in front of this his wife? if i don't like that kind of stuff. anyway -- will: well, that's an interesting discussion. [laughter] rachel: by the way, you guys have your own private text chain? will: i'm not offended i was left off, i'm just curious, i'm not sending this to will, i'm sending it to rachel.

by the way, let's bring in lawrence jones having breakfast with friends at the horizon family restaurant in sioux city, iowa, ahead of the iowa caucus. what's up, lawrence? >> hey, good morning, family. i've enjoyed this back and forth over here. and, of course, pete is the master trollster, so i can see them laughing at all of this. [laughter] but, you know, there's a little truth, again, on both sides. it probably wasn't the most appropriate thing to do to a candidate. but i do wish the governor would have just laughed at the guy. and i also think that it highlights the personality thin- will: well, it's a tough situation, i'm trying to think -- >> because every candidate -- they are tough. and, honestly, as you guys have done, sometimes in these diners you get troublemakers, and they want a moment. and you have to not give them their moment by turning it back on them. now, that takes a little bit of

a slight little bit of humility in these moments because, you know, you're the guy. you're supposed to be the person wooing the crowd just like the governor's doing. i wish he would have laughed at the person because i think it would have been a light moment for desantis, and i think that's one of the things that he struggled with on the campaign trail. the lack of personality, connecting with people. you can be a great governor, great on policy, but people vote based on how they feel sometimes and how they connect with you. and he just doesn't have that. and i agree, rachel, it's probably not the best thing for a political spouse to deal with. but even casey desantis -- rachel: she laughed. >> she almost made, she made the moment lighter, and i've been asking the campaign for a while, why isn't casey desantis -- rachel: she is a superior campaigner, no question about it. will: it's tough. it is, hike, how do you thread this needle right here? you've bot to reject him but

also show knew humility -- pete: i think that's part of what we missed in our analysis, is the reaction is, says a lot about the candidate too. rachel: yeah. pete: it's tough too. rachel: and about the spouse. and i think she has been one of the most underestimated spouses. i don't think -- or underappreciated campaign styles, that she has been phenomenal on the trail. i would account many points that he has gotten in this polling to her directly, she's been phenomenal. will: all right. lawrence, we'll be checking back in with you in just a little while. you're going to be speaking to people in iowa. pete: thanks, lauren. will: check out this headline from axios, john kerry set to lead the biden administration to begin helping the biden campaign. john kerry said, it was said in axios, kerry, 80, thinks biden's election is the single bilgest difference -- biggest difference that can be made for climate

progress. a source told axios, it brings up john kerry who's been out there basically beating the drums for the um e pending doom of humanity under the weight of climate change while he flies on his private jet to tell you the extent of the threat, doesn't think it's as big of a threat as joe biden losing an election. pete: exactly. it's never quite been clear who he works for or what his job is. he's the ambiguous czar who flies around guzzling gas while saying the rest of us should not. and what he's saying is, well, if joe biden loses, then my work stops. so campaigning is more important than my work. but you know what? i think john kerry just feels more comfortable on the campaign trail anyway. spent half his life trying to be president. [laughter] and maybe he thinks if joe can't do it, maybe i can. [laughter] just saying. rachel: here's a flashback of john kerry denying his own carbon foot print listen. >> you recently switched, i

read, from flying private to flying commercial. >> no, i didn't fly private while i was in this job. >> oh, okay. >> that's a misnomer. i've had one, maybe two private flights which were u.s. military flights in order to get to china during covid where we were forced into that. but i fly commercially. >> the reason i bring that up is private aviation is an example of something where people are starting to pay more attention. but when, you know, people go to davos to talk about climate change fly if private, it seems like they don't want to -- >> well, they actually, i've talked to them about it. they offset. they are working harder than most people i know to be able to try to affect this transition. they're paying the green premium in order to accelerate the transition. pete: buying offsents. that's always what it is. rachel: what is that? if. pete: it means you're buying away someone else's ability to

pollute, but it's so you can pollute. rachel: it's like paying a penance. will: or a nicer first class ticket. no, no, i still get to fly if private because i paid extra for the carbon offset. rachel: right. and by the way, they're doing this on our behalf to third world countries. so we are actually paying millions and millions of dollars to third world countries to, you know, in the name of climate injustice to compensate them for our sins. so just so you know we're sitting under $34 trillion in debt and that man is transitioning prematurely our economy to a non-fossil fuel economy that we're not prepared for. we're literally squandering billions of dollars and, frankly, government time resources on this ideology and what it is. it's all about control. john kerry is a globalist. he's part of the whole world

economic forum mentality and mind item set, and they -- mindset, and they want to control your energy consumption because if they control your energy consumption, your food and currency, they can control you, and they are on the road to all of those things. pete: and now he's a fresh new campaign surrogate for joe biden. rachel: because they need joe biden in power -- pete: new york because with you have to be 80 plus to campaign for joe biden. [laughter] rachel: that's true. pete: turning to a few additional headline, after the u.s. launched strikes on houthi-controlled sites across yemen, the iranian-backed terror group is promising retaliation. a houthi spokesman saying yesterday, quote, this new strike will have a firm, strong and effective response. the warning comes as joe biden says that the u.s. and allies have, quote, privately delivered a message to iran over its backing of the houthi rebels. meanwhile, defense secretary lloyd austin remains in the hospital. the pentagon saying yesterday he's in good condition but not good enough condition to leave.

incredible video shows the moment a vermont state trooper plunged into icy waters to save an 8-year-old child. will: have you seen this? pete: no. rachel: it is incredible. will: incredible. [background sounds] [inaudible conversations] >> she's making noises. she's making -- pete: trooper rochelle archer securing the girl with a floatation device and bringing her ashore. they rushed her to the hospital, she has since made a full recovery. will: hero e. pete: wow, no doubt. rachel: look at that little girl. oh, my goodness. pete: amazing. and there's a new jimmy entering the late night space as jimmy failla makes his debut hosting "fox news saturday night.

". >> what you're watching tonight is my actual childhood dream coming true. when i was in fifth grade, i had a teacher who told me to ask my parents to let me stay up late and watch the tonight show with johnny carson because she said i could totally host one of those shows. i was home that night. i watched carson, and i spent every day of my life believing this day would come. as i sit here on the first night of my dream come true, i'm one of those stupid people who wants to help the world and change the vibe e in our politics. and for that reason, it's going to be a lot like the years i spent driving a taxi in new york city. no, i'm not saying the inside e smells like taliban and failure -- >> kind of does. [laughter] >> hey! i'm saying everyone is welcome to hop in, and it doesn't matter who you voted for. you see, as a comedian, i'm not here on behalf of the republican party or the democratic party, i'm here on behalf of the keg party. [laughter] rachel: i love that. will: really awesome. rachel: i can just tell you,

there's a lot of good things that happen to people, but it couldn't happen to a nicer person. what you see there with jimmy failla is who he is. he is the nicest, kindest, sweetest guy, couldn't happen to a better person. pete: congratulations, jimmy. immensely talented and great to see the good guys rise to the top. it'll be a successful show. check it out. put it on your calendar. rachel: we love you, jimmy. will: do you have to be named jimmy to be on late night in. rachel: seems to be. wow, i hadn't thought about that, but that's a good one. coming up, gop-ers are not only battling each other, but mother nature. pete: our next guest says he still expects a major turnout for trump. he says evangelicals are going to help deliver the win. faith and freedom coalition founder ralph reid joins us next. ♪ finish. ♪oh ♪ ♪ ♪you... can make it happen...♪ ♪

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rachel: a wind chill warning remains in effect in iowa as the deep freeze could impact turnout for tomorrow night's caucuses. the brutal conditions forcing republican presidential hopefuls to hold virtual events. temperatures could feel as low as 45 degrees below 0 for all of central iowa until tuesday. let's turn now to chief meteorologist rick reichmuth for

our fox weather forecast. rick: by the way, it's going to be at least a week before these temps get maybe even towards the teens or 20s. so we're going to be talking about a really proif longed period -- prolonged period. that cold becomes dangerous over time. this is how much snow is on the ground in the state of iowa. look hover ear --over here, there have been two storms that have moved through here this week, now we've got the cold temperatures solidly in place. air temperature, -16. wind chills towards that -40 range. so the cold on. go towards thinking about frostbite we're at times with the temperatures here maybe during the overnight hours and tomorrow tomorrowing as well where you can get frost bite in about 10 minutes. it's going to be very dangerous. now, this cold air has also settled in towards the south. temperatures feeling like the single digits for so many cases. to two to the north of oklahoma city, feeling like -15 tomorrow

morning. by the time we get towards tuesday morning, this cold air settles in across the south. there's another storm coming, this -- i want to tell you, it's going to become a really big snowmaker across parts of mississippi, tennessee, arkansas. weaver going to see some spots, 5-8 inches by the time we get to monday. rachel in. rachel: thank you, rick. with the iowa caucuses just one day away, candidates are racking up last minute if endorsements. last week governor desantis picked up 50 new endorsements from pastors, but other faith leaders say endorsements aren't all that helpful in iowa. he predicts a massive victory for trump tomorrow. here to explain, founder and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition ralph reid. welcome, ralph. we're so excited to have you. we know you have such a wealth of knowledge particularly in iowa. >> thanks, rachel. rachel: so explain this. so you've got desantis getting all these endorsements from pastors, but you say that

doesn't matter. >> well, i think the most important thing here is to recognize that iowans take their role in these caucuses very seriously, rachel. they're very deliberative. you know, if you know anything about iowa, many of them meet the candidates, a dozen or more times, they're at home events, house parties, they go to candidate forums. they get a chance to engage in individual conversations with the candidates. some of them are on a first name basis. so they cherish this role. and they protect it very jealously. so, look, when you have the endorsement of somebody like governor kim reynolds who's so widely and deeply respected, they take it under advisement, but this is their decision. this is their call. and what's really remarkable is what a contrast this is from 2016. in 2016 ted cruz was winning the evangelical vote with about a third of that vote, and trump was only getting about a fifth of that vote.

as we're now 36 hours from these votes being cast all across the state of iowa, trump is winning a majority of this vote, and ron desantis is far behind, about 29 points behind among evangelicals. it's a remarkable turn-around from when trump first burst on the scene when he rode that escalator. rachel: so, ralph, that should's very interesting because, you know, when you look at liberals, first of all, have always been perplexed by the fact that donald trump has appealed to evangelicals at all. but it makes sense that in 2016 they went with ted cruz who's a very devout van jibbing himself. -- evangelical himself. how do you explain this shift from, you know, 2016 to this time where trump is so overwhelmingly getting the support of evangelicals? >> you know, i think it's really two things. the first is he's effectively running as a quasi-incumbent,

and he's got a record that he didn't have in 2015 and '16. he's got a record of appointing three supreme court justices that were solidly pro-life and conservative. he kept his word on that. the host pro-israel president in american history moving the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. he defunded planned parenthood. he was the first president to speak to the march for life. i could go on and on. rachel: right. >> and to these voters, you know, some demean them, rachel, as being, quote, transalaskaal. they're not transactional. they have deeply held values that beat in their hearts and give meaning to their souls. and it's life, support for israel, religious freedom. and these things when you show affinity to those values, you can win their support. rachel: well, it's fascinating, and we shall see what happens on tuesday. but i think your predictions are going to hold true. thank you, ralph reed. appreciate it. >> you bet. good to be with you. rachel: likewise. coming up, anti-israel

protesters taking to the streets of our nation's capital yesterday with calling for a ceasefire in gaza as the world marks 100 days of israel's war on hamas. former u.n. ambassador danny danon joins us next to reflect.

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update the american audience on the status of the fight. where is israel right now in responding to that dastardly attack that happened a hundred days ago? >> good morning, pete. we haven't forgotten what happened 100 days ago a when we were caught by surprise, 1200 people were massacred, hundreds were kidnapped. and today we are fighting back to bring back the hostages. we have 13 if 6 hostages as we speak. it's an ongoing atrocity. young girls, the ages of 18 and 19, are being sexually abused for 100 days. so our soldiers are in gaza now focusing on southern part of gaza looking for the leadership of hamas, and we are determined, pete, we are determined to do whatever is necessary to bring them back home safely. it's not easy. you know, we are fighting a very vicious organization. they built underground city under gaza, so we will work very

slowly, but we are determined to finish the mission. pete: danny, what do you make of these protests that we're seeing across the globe and in the united states, the pressure if they're trying to put on the white house here to slow you town? if are you getting the level of support you need to wage this war on hamas? >> so we have seen protests in different capitals all over the world, and those people they never mention when started this war. they're actually supporting a terrorist organization like al-qaeda, like isis. i don't understand how you can actually support hamas. today don't mention the hostage as -- can hostages, that hay don't mention the victims. you know in we don't care aren'. we care about our safety, our security, and that's why we are so convicted and united in our fight for our security, for our future. and we are grateful for the support of the people in u.s., from germany, from orr modern

democracies -- other modern democracies. they understand it's a fight against modernity. they are actually fighting against the west. pete: danny if, some people i think watching here might be surprised of the -- not how slow the pace is, but how, what it takes to dislodge hamas. how much time do you think it will take, in your mind? >> so i have to be very sincere with you, it is very showily because we're operating in a very difficult situation where you have civilians, and hamas is hiding beneath the civilians. and we do the best to minimize civilian casualties. you know, we provide hundreds of trucks of humanitarian aid into gaza every day. so for us, it is a challenge to operate in such a sophisticated ground. but i think we are moving forward, we were able to take care of the majority of the hamas forces. but they're hiding. so it will take more time until

we get in the tunnels. we'll find the leadership, and we will release the hostages. pete: god willing, i hope you find every single one of those hamas if fighters and kill 'em and get every single one of those hostages back. god bless you, danny. good luck. >> thank you very much, pete. thank you. pete: you got it. all right, coming up, friendly fire, that's how finishing work p hopeful vivek ramaswamy is describing president trump's new attack on social media. former 2024 candidate larry elder joins us live with how it could impact tomorrow's caucuses. but first, lawrence jones is having breakfast with friends at horizon family restaurant in sioux city, iowa. what's up, lawrence? >> hey, good morning, pete. so bigtime in iowa, who will be the candidate that wins? will donald trump, the front-runner, be the guy? or will there be a big upsent? that's coming up on "fox & friends." [laughter]

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♪ ♪ if. ♪ will: we're just one day away from the iowa caucuses, officially kicking off the 2024 race for the white house.

so let's check back in with lawrence jones who's having breakfast with friends at the horizon family restaurant in sioux city. lawrence, good morning. >> hey, good morning, family. ing so i've been out here talking with the folks, and i find it fascinating because you've got this healthy republican field, you've got a governor with a proven record, ron desantis, you've got donald trump, a former president has his record, a businessman in vivek ramaswamy, got nikki haley who used to be a governor. so i'm just fascinated with it. who do you think is going to be the person that's going to take home the gold in this race in iowa in. >> in iowa i don't see anybody other than trump actually pulling it off and winning. he's got too big a base. he's done historically what he's promised and everything else like that. sort of -- short of something unusual happening, he's going to be the nominee. >> you told me, you say, look, i like ron desantis but not right now.

what did you mean by that? >> i think i like a lot of what ron did through the pandemic. a lot of the things that he has done historically and stuff like that. i just think that trump is a stronger candidate right now. for what you have. >> what is it about donald trump that has the people of iowa galvanized? i mean, you're talking about 50% of iowans want to support the guy. so what is it about him? >> well, it's the economy, it's the fuel if independent, it's the border that he has made, you know, those connections with. i mean, the only thing that really hurt his candidacy -- or his presidency was the pandemic which was out of his doll control. i mean, everything else he was delivering all his promises that he was doing. and he, you know, he's not part of the washington, d.c. scene, and he runs like a businessman. and stuff like that.

so, i mean, it just is a nice alternative. >> yeah. thank you so much, sir. so i always tell people, listen, they say, lawrence, you're always citing the polls. i always tell them the only reason i believe the polls is because it's consistent with what i'm e hearing on the ground. i only question the polls when they don't reflect what's on the ground, and right now it shows that donald trump is the superior candidate, guys. i'll send it back to you guys in new york. will: lauren, i'm going to pick right back up on that right away. let's bring in larry elder, former 2024 presidential candidate. good morning, larry. great to have you on the show. >> will, appreciate you having me. thank you. will: so i want to ask you about this moment that happened on social media over the last 12 hours, and that's donald trump going after vivek ramaswamy. trump posted on truth social vivek started his campaign as a great supporter, unfortunately now all he does is disguise his support in the form of deceitful campaign tricks, very sly.

a vote for vivek is a vote for the other side. don't get duped by this. vote for trump. don't waste your vote. vivek is not maga, and the biden indictments against his political opponent will never be allowed into this country. vivek responded, by the way, larry, and he sort of took the high road and said, rook look, i'm not going to get into a fight with donald trump. what do you think in your estimation preed candidated this attack by donald trump on vivek ramaswamy? i think we have a couple things to consider. let's start with the polls really quickly that lawrence just mentioned. pete had a segment yesterday that's gone somewhat viral. elon musk has talked about it, vivek's talked about it, and there's this idea that the polls aren't accurate because they're not is asking about all of the candidates. so if you say you support vivek, we want the know who you sport among the other three. so my first ve -- scenario, do you think vivek could actually be polling higher so trump is going to go after him because he's actually not 8%?

>> i'll throw you a curve and talk about the special you had a moment ago about the gentleman who gave ron desantis that participation trophy? as somebody who's run for office in california for governor, run for president, i can tell you it is hard. it is grueling. you get about four hours after sleep -- of sleep. your financial life, your personal life put on hold, your personal life subject to scrutiny if you're a republican, it's going to be scrutinized unfairly. you have to be on top of a range of issues. you have to either give a print interview, a radio interview, a tv interview or a fundraiser or the most unpleasant part, asking principle -- people for money. regarding ron desantis, i respect him a great deal. this is a combat military vet who served in a war zone, and in my opinion, did not deserve that kind of disrespect. i bet you anything that the gentleman who said that has never run for dogcatcher, let alone volunteered for the military. regarding your question, my

suspicion is this, vivek has around 6% or so, donald trump wants to get above 50%, and vivek's closing argument is, well, i'm donald trump except i have fresh legs. so if you're buying that, that means that some percentage of people who who like donald trump will vote for vivek because he's younger. that's what donald trump is going after. i think he wants to shave a few points off so he gets over 50% so the media will not say he underperformed. regarding vivek, i've got a quick vivek story if i can share with you. the first debate stage, as you know, i did not make it for reasons i thought were unfair by the rnc. on the eve of the second event, vivek said, larry, if you don't make the second debate, will you endorse this? i said i will consider it if you get up there and say larry elder could not be here, one of his big issue is the the epidemic of fatherlessness. the second debate came he said one of the problems did not mention the larry elder part.

so that's my vivek story, and i can understand why donald trump thinks of him as a slick, deceitful and insincere. no hard feelings, all of these guys with the exception of chris christie would be better than the joe biden. will: ewell, maybe to still strait your -- illustrate your point, this could be what predicated donald trump's attack on save vick v.a., there's a picture where he took a picture with a bunch of guys and it says save trump, and it sort of puts -- vivek didn't coordinate those guys, and it sort of puts him in the position of the savior, and that might not have been something that trump liked. but i actually think your with answer is right. in the end, he just wants all the votes, you know? wants to get above 50%. and, look, or one with man gets to win. one man gets to win, and so everyone else is your opponent of. larry, great to hear from you this morning. thanks for the conversation. >> my pleasure, thank you 'em. will: still ahead, it's national hot pastrami day, and we're e

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pete: today is national hot pastrami sandwich day. ray and here to show us how to

make the new york classic is the own owner of the legendary liebman's deli which first opened its doors in 1953. will: bev -- we've been talking to you about what is pastrami, what part of the cow does it come from, the cut. we're all fascinated. tell us that and then let's make a sandwich. >> sure. so we start out with a naval cut of -- navel cut of beef, we do salt, sugar -- will: sits for a week? >> yeah, about a week to do that. once we bull -- pull that out, we do our dry rub are. after that we cook it, do a little bit of a smoke, and then we steam for a bunch of hours, and and after that we're ready to pretty much slice. rachel: that's a lot of stuff. >> yeah. it's a labor of love. rick: so your at least a -- you're at least a week in. >> totally.

we have this nice crust finish. rachel: that's really good. >> we're ready to slice. typically in the deli we have a slice machine, but over here we're just going to do a few slices by hand. pete: you don't normally do it by hand. >> no, we don't. it can be. some folks do that. we like to do it by machine, and what we do is we build a nice sandwich. we pile it high. all right. will: look at that. rachel: so salty and yummy. will: is it always a deli cut? i've had thick cut as well pastrami. >> yeah. we tend to do just about medium, i'd say, just because -- rachel: that's a lot of meat. >> yeah, we do a nice roll. slapter on the mustard. this is, like, the classic combination. we'll do a little cross-section here just to show you guys how to pilot on. will: beautiful. i like mustard and russian dressing. >> folks can do those combinations.

we don't frown if upon 'em, but there you go. will: thank you. rick: visit liebman's deli.com, did i get that right in. >> yeah. if you can't come vicinity us, we ship nationwide on gold belly, so we're excited about that. we've got the bronx location, and we're opening up now in westchester -- rachel: what are you shipping, just the meat or the sandwiches themselves? >> yeah. we do sandwich kits, we do complete dinners. rachel: wow. >> you can get all our stuff on there -- ray something for game day, wow. pete: i've been -- [inaudible] rachel: thank you. >> my pleasure. [laughter] rachel: coming up, the iowa caucuses are tomorrow. we have shannon bream next on predictions. start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. an alternative to pills, voltaren is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel,

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